Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 , Sahaji Sahaj <ssahaji wrote: > > Dear Jagbir bhaiya > may be you are right i did not realise my self fully....but what i > noticed that whenever i go with my husband to his guru's place...i > feel heat and headache and that time it is very hard to put > attention on my sahastra. > not only that i lost my vibration. > and the only reason i go with my husband to make him happy > now it's fear in my mind....i want to reach on my sahastra...but > all these things pulling me down. > i like to spread sahajlove to everybody....doesn't matter they are > sahajayogi or not. > maybe i really don't understand how you look inside. > sometimes i feel miserable when i loss my vibration. > and that is the reason is stopping me to reach my sahastra. > May be as as a sahajayogi i am not mature enough.....but i really > like to go beyond everything...feel happy...spread mother's love > and enjoy everybody without any fear or without feeling losing my > vibration. > how i do that???????? > Dear ssahaji sister (and all), i have posted a number of articles which should make you realize that Shri Mataji wants you to realize your own Self i.e., the essence and presence of God Almighty or Brahman within all beings. However, since you have been conditioned by the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion) for so many years your perception, reaction and resulting confusion is the main cause of your present dilemma (and that of your friend and daughter too). " Until you are able to understand the meaning of the " Self " , the physical body would remain imperfect and would be unable to verify the Truth. But once the physical instrument is connected with Truth, you are able to verify the Truth. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi i will outline the important differences between Shri Mataji teachings and the corruption/misinterpretation of those teachings in SY collectives that most SYs are not aware: i) SYs are told that Shri Mataji is God Almighty, which She never even mentioned once since opening the Sahasrara May 5, 1970. She is not even the Adi Shakti but Her incarnation. This is most important to realize as it will go along way in ridding yourself of the falsehood that you have taken for granted. Indeed you will heal faster if you begin meditating on the Divine Feminine (Adi Shakti/ Shekinah/Holy Spirit/Ruh/Tao/Aykaa Mayee) within, as She is the creative aspect and power of God Almighty. " The representatives of SadaShiva (God Almighty) and Adi Shakti (His Power) in us are the Atma (Self) and the Kundalini (Mother). " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " Kundalini is our Mother, we are Her only children and She has been with us through all our lives just waiting for the moment of fulfillment. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " God has created man with his Shakti and man has to know Him, and recognize Him through Kundalini awakening. Blossom Time has come and many ancient seekers are today getting their Self-Realisation. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi ii) SYs are told to meditate on Shri Mataji's photograph but i have never heard Her saying so! On the contrary, She always wanted us to realize our Self, Thus it is a great relief to me when She clarified that: " You can use my photograph, but the realization should not be from the photograph, but from you. " Shri Mataji Guru Puja, 20 July 2008, Cabella, Italy i know most SYs meditate on Shri Mataji's photograph that is placed on the altar. You will never realize your Self this way. Even grasping what i am talking about will seem confusing as your attention is always on the photograph (where most SYs believe Shri Mataji resides!), and you cannot figure out otherwise. But where is your Self, my ssahaji sister? " But do you have your self-esteem? If you have then where should be your attention? It should be on your Self. Where is your Self now? It is God Almighty; it's part of that Great Primordial Being. Your attention should be on that. After realization your attention should be in your heart, on your spirit which is the part of God Almighty. If your attention is on your spirit you will be amazed how your attention will act. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi 23 June 1980 " The object of Sahaja Yoga is basically to become and experience the spiritual Self. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi iii) SYs associate vibrations (Cool Breeze/Ruach/Chaitanya/Qi) with the subtle system although they were primarily to confirm birth by the Spirit (awakening of Mother Kundalini), a promise made by Jesus and fulfilled by the Comforter Shri Mataji sent by Him. " The enjoyment of life is only possible if the world could get connected to the Spirit.... You become the spirit as Christ has said in simple words that `you have to be born again.' " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " If we follow Him (Jesus) then we cannot be conditioned by anything because He talked of Spirit only. Spirit cannot be conditioned, conditioned by anything. . . . I am here to tell you all these things which Christ could not tell, and to fulfil what He wanted to say. All those things I am saying to you. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Christmas Puja, Delhi, India — December 24, 1995 " Today we are celebrating the resurrection of Christ. With it we also have to celebrate the resurrection of human beings, of Sahaja Yogis, who have been resurrected as realised souls. With that we have to understand that we enter into a new awareness. He had to come down and again to show to this world that you are the eternal life, that you lead a life that is spiritual, which never perishes. You have to rise, into that new realm, which is the Realm of God Almighty, what you call the Kingdom of God. And He said it very clearly to Nicodemus that `You have to be born again' when he asked, `Am I to enter back into my mother's womb?' And He said it so clearly. Those who don't want to see can remain blind. No, that is, whatever is born of the flesh, is the flesh, but whatever is born of the Spirit is the Spirit.' But whatever is manmade is not the Spirit. This is the clear statement of Christ, which people wanted to avoid, and start their own organisations, and ideas, and created a very mythical thing in His name. And now the time has come for it to be blasted. It has been going on and on now for thousands of years, captures so many innocent people and people are into it. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi V4 No 23 Sept 84 p4 SYs have collectively corrupted the sacredness of vibrations for mundane purposes, including giving Self-realization to bicycles, finding parking space, chasing away municipal workers from digging the road, etc., etc., ……. a list way too long, idiotic and depressing to mention here. And with the 1001 catches of the SYSSR always infecting them, SYs have conditioned themselves into thinking their subtle system needs constant cleansing. There are endless reasons for catches – food, people, billboards, gurus, books, bars, movies, clothes, etc., etc. This has resulted in a mindset that is full of fear, confusion and guilt. " In Sahaja Yoga, you have to understand one simple thing, that you are the Spirit and whatever is not the Spirit is not yourself. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi iv) The Sahaja Yoga taught and practised in all SY collectives is devoid of the fearless faith, deep healing and invigorating nourishment of the Resurrection. Over the years this void has spiritually bankrupted the Sahaja Yoga organization and brought it down to its knees. The official editing out of the Comforter's eschatological message has made SYs into spiritual zombies who infect others with their SYSSR ....... a daily regimen of cleansing rituals to rid the catches of fear, confusion and guilt. But what has the Cool Breeze of the Resurrection got to do with all these mundane, external rituals? How can you feel vibrations of the Resurrection 24/7 when there are so many reasons to feel the fear, confusion and guilt of the SYSSR? " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the " Last Judgment " and in the Koran as " Qiyamah " , the Resurrection Time. Astrologically it is also called the Age of Aquarius, the time of rebirth and of great spiritual development on the Earth. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " And in this great happening of the Last Judgment and the Resurrection Time, one need not, and should not, believe blindfolded in whatever is said about ascent or salvation, but should treat it like a hypothesis, and observe the facts with an open mind like a, scientist. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " In my opinion, every Westerner has, as a matter of urgency, to understand the vital role he has to play in this great Age of Transformation and of the Last Judgment. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " Thus, the establishment of global peace can only come through people who have achieved this state in modern times which is very special and I call it a Blossom Time. In the Bible, it is described as the Last Judgment, also in the Koran it is called as Qiyamah (the Resurrection time). " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " This is the Last Judgment. Either you will go to heaven or you will go to hell. It's already working out like that. So let's see. Where are you? So I have to again and again tell you as your mother, I have to correct you and tell you that remember this is the Last Judgment and please, don't take anymore to the activities which are antichrist. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " Now this is the Last Judgment and those who miss will miss in any case. Christ has said, " You will be calling Me Christ, Christ, but I will not recognize you. " " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi " This is the most important time because Sahaja Yoga is the Last Judgment. It is fantastic to hear this but that's a fact and is the truth. Though you can understand, that Mother's love makes it very easy for you to get through your realization and that the whole story of the Last Judgment looks such as horrifying experience has been made very beautiful and very tender and delicate and does not disturb you. But this is the Last Judgment I tell you, and you all are going to be judged through Sahaja Yoga, whether, you can enter into the kingdom of God or not. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi v) SYs are made to believe that Sahaja Yoga is a Hindu thing, and are constantly indoctrinated to that effect – dress, food, music, deities, puja, altar, subtle system, etc. That effectively and conveniently removes all traces and eschatology of the three great faiths of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Other faiths like Sikhism and Buddhism are marginalized. If that is not the case, i challenge all SYs to prove me wrong as i know for a fact that all these faiths are strictly against the very external images, rituals and worship that SYs daily indulge in. As i was writing this i had a strong left Swadisthan catch (telling me where their problem lies). So i will quote from the thick SYSSR manual the mental knowledge of chakras that so impress SYs: " Swadhisthan Chakra The second chakra is the chakra of creativity, pure attention and pure knowledge. It is the one which connects us to the inner source of inspiration, and enables us to experience the beauty around us. The pure knowledge given by this chakra is not mental, but it is direct perception of the Reality, that can be felt in our palms and indicates our subtle blockages. Also this is the center of pure, steady attention and power of concentration. " www.sahajayoga.org So if you believe that " Sahaja Yoga unites the essence of all religions', you will give up all the external images, rituals and worship that these religions collectively reject. In conclusion, it is obvious that most SYs like you really don't understand how to look inside because the official SYSSY is all about external images, rituals and worship. " That's where some of the Sahaja Yogis, who are still meddling with things that they should not do, go down. And they don't understand what is God is. But is not the understanding, in a way, you understand this one little point - that it comes from your heart into your brain; not from brain to your heart. It comes as if the ambrosia of your bhakti covers your brain, absolutely… That's the real knowledge is to know what is God. And if that is God then how can you suspect anything? How can you try to analyses anything? It's God! It's God Almighty, which knows everything; which does everything; which enjoys everything. That is the one, we should say, is the 'Gnyana', is the knowledge, is the true knowledge, the pure knowledge. Is not the knowledge of chakras; not the knowledge of vibrations; not the knowledge of kundalini but the knowledge of God Almighty. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Shivaratri Puja, Chiancian Terme, Italy, 16 Feb, 1991 More than three decades have passed since Shri Mataji opened the Sahasrara and gave humanity the pure knowledge and technique of Self- realization. Despite a life exclusively and selflessly dedicated to that cause, Shri Mataji has so few devotees who have realized the Self. It is indeed sad, perhaps even shocking, to find that is true .... especially so if you consider that the SY organization has always claimed that " Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experience called Self Realization that can occur within each human being. " . The reality is that many SYs like ssahajai " really don't understand how you look inside. " They still do not know how to realize their Self ............. despite years of Self-realization! Question: So how do you start realizing your Self (Spirit), feeling vibrations (Cool Breeze of the Resurrection), reaching your Sahasrara (Kingdom of God) again? How does one go beyond everything... feel happy... spread mother's love and enjoy everybody without any fear or without losing vibrations again? Answer: The only way is to discard the corrupted, conditioning and confusing SYSSR and strictly following Shri Mataji's advent and message of the Blossom Time. This is the most important time because Sahaja Yoga is the Last Judgment. It is fantastic to hear this but that's a fact and is the truth. Other than that you will definitely spend an entire lifetime in SY collectives without ever realizing your Self ......... or even realizing that the SYSSR does not bestow the Self-realization that Shri Mataji talks about. regards, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 Dear Jagbir and all, What you have written and based on Shri Mataji's teachings and scriptures is so great that i want to go over it. At first, you say: > Dear ssahaji sister (and all), > > i have posted a number of articles which should make you realize > that Shri Mataji wants you to realize your own Self i.e., the > essence and presence of God Almighty or Brahman within all beings. > However, since you have been conditioned by the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga > Subtle System Religion) for so many years your perception, reaction > and resulting confusion is the main cause of your present dilemma > (and that of your friend and daughter too). > > " Until you are able to understand the meaning of the " Self " , the > physical body would remain imperfect and would be unable to verify > the Truth. But once the physical instrument is connected with Truth, > you are able to verify the Truth. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi [in hindsight - from the very point at which Sahaja Yogis are to " realise their Self " , the evil one is present through the SYSSR, to try and sway them away from surrender to their Spirit/Divine Within and lead them into all the conditionings of the SYSSR. It has always been the case that wherever their is great enlightenment to be had, the darkness is barking at its heels, to try and destroy the truth of an incarnation, prophet or holy person.] > i will outline the important differences between Shri Mataji > teachings and the corruption/misinterpretation of those teachings in > SY collectives that most SYs are not aware: > > i) SYs are told that Shri Mataji is God Almighty, which She never > even mentioned once since opening the Sahasrara May 5, 1970. She is > not even the Adi Shakti but Her incarnation. This is most important > to realize as it will go along way in ridding yourself of the > falsehood that you have taken for granted. Indeed you will heal > faster if you begin meditating on the Divine Feminine (Adi Shakti/ > Shekinah/Holy Spirit/Ruh/Tao/Aykaa Mayee) within, as She is the > creative aspect and power of God Almighty. > > " The representatives of SadaShiva (God Almighty) and Adi Shakti (His > Power) in us are the Atma (Self) and the Kundalini (Mother). " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " Kundalini is our Mother, we are Her only children and She has been > with us through all our lives just waiting for the moment of > fulfillment. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " God has created man with his Shakti and man has to know Him, and > recognize Him through Kundalini awakening. Blossom Time has come and > many ancient seekers are today getting their Self-Realisation. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi [i refer to this verse of Shri Mataji: > " The representatives of SadaShiva (God Almighty) and Adi Shakti (His > Power) in us are the Atma (Self) and the Kundalini (Mother). " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Firstly - it is fantastic for Christians and others to have the chance to understand the Hindu words/meaning that " SadaShiva " is God Almighty.... " Adi Shakti " is His Power.... " Atma " is the Self.... and " Kundalini " is the Mother. In Christianity the only place i had ever heard the word " SadaShiva " , was in a Christian hymn, but even there, i didn't clearly understand its meaning. i could, however, feel the holy vibrations flowing from even the mention of that name. It had a real effect on me and i always kept it as a special word in my heart. With regards to the word " Atma " one day i asked my father what it means. He said it meant " breath " . i guess that was a close description, in a way, as one's Self is as close as one's breath. As far as the word " Kundalini " is concerned, i never, ever heard that word once mentioned, in Christian circles. But now these words are becoming more known, which will help greatly in opening up the understanding/communication between people from various religious/spiritual backgrounds. Secondly - Shri Mataji is saying here that the representatives of God the Father/Mother are within us. Shri Mataji says that these representatives within are the Atma/Self and the Kundalini/Mother. i remember Shri Mataji telling us that She had come to introduce us to our " own individual Mother within " whom She said is very intelligent, wise, and knows our every lifetime that we have incarnated as human beings. Then why do more SYs not avail themselves of this individual Mother? To please Her, you do have to rid yourself of the conditionings of the SYSSR - otherwise what is the point of Her being there, if you think you can liberate yourself on your own?] > ii) SYs are told to meditate on Shri Mataji's photograph but i have > never heard Her saying so! On the contrary, She always wanted us to > realize our Self, Thus it is a great relief to me when She clarified > that: > > " You can use my photograph, but the realization should not be from > the photograph, but from you. " > > Shri Mataji > Guru Puja, 20 July 2008, Cabella, Italy > > i know most SYs meditate on Shri Mataji's photograph that is placed > on the altar. You will never realize your Self this way. Even > grasping what i am talking about will seem confusing as your > attention is always on the photograph (where most SYs believe Shri > Mataji resides!), and you cannot figure out otherwise. But where is > your Self, my ssahaji sister? > > " But do you have your self-esteem? If you have then where should be > your attention? It should be on your Self. Where is your Self now? > It is God Almighty; it's part of that Great Primordial Being. Your > attention should be on that. > > After realization your attention should be in your heart, on your > spirit which is the part of God Almighty. If your attention is on > your spirit you will be amazed how your attention will act. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > 23 June 1980 > > " The object of Sahaja Yoga is basically to become and experience the > spiritual Self. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi [This short quote says something very deep and meaningful in a very few words. i do believe it would lend itself very well in future advertisements/promotions, etc. That one very simple quote, would in a nutshell, tell the seekers of the truth what Sahaja Yoga is really about. As well, it lends itself very well to the weightier topic of the Last Judgment and Resurrection Message of Christ, and of Shri Mataji. With that quote of what Sahaja Yoga really is, we are again placing the emphasis on the Self, where it should be! i love it!] > iii) SYs associate vibrations (Cool Breeze/Ruach/Chaitanya/Qi) with > the subtle system although they were primarily to confirm birth by > the Spirit (awakening of Mother Kundalini), a promise made by Jesus > and fulfilled by the Comforter Shri Mataji sent by Him. > > " The enjoyment of life is only possible if the world could get > connected to the Spirit.... You become the spirit as Christ has said > in simple words that `you have to be born again.' " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " If we follow Him (Jesus) then we cannot be conditioned by anything > because He talked of Spirit only. Spirit cannot be conditioned, > conditioned by anything. . . . I am here to tell you all these > things which Christ could not tell, and to fulfil what He wanted to > say. All those things I am saying to you. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > Christmas Puja, Delhi, India — December 24, 1995 > > " Today we are celebrating the resurrection of Christ. With it we > also have to celebrate the resurrection of human beings, of Sahaja > Yogis, who have been resurrected as realised souls. With that we > have to understand that we enter into a new awareness. He had to > come down and again to show to this world that you are the eternal > life, that you lead a life that is spiritual, which never perishes. > You have to rise, into that new realm, which is the Realm of God > Almighty, what you call the Kingdom of God. > > And He said it very clearly to Nicodemus that `You have to be born > again' when he asked, `Am I to enter back into my mother's womb?' > And He said it so clearly. Those who don't want to see can remain > blind. No, that is, whatever is born of the flesh, is the flesh, but > whatever is born of the Spirit is the Spirit.' > > But whatever is manmade is not the Spirit. This is the clear > statement of Christ, which people wanted to avoid, and start their > own organisations, and ideas, and created a very mythical thing in > His name. And now the time has come for it to be blasted. It has > been going on and on now for thousands of years, captures so many > innocent people and people are into it. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > V4 No 23 Sept 84 p4 > > SYs have collectively corrupted the sacredness of vibrations for > mundane purposes, including giving Self-realization to bicycles, > finding parking space, chasing away municipal workers from digging > the road, etc., etc., ……. a list way too long, idiotic and > depressing to mention here. > > And with the 1001 catches of the SYSSR always infecting them, SYs > have conditioned themselves into thinking their subtle system needs > constant cleansing. There are endless reasons for catches – food, > people, billboards, gurus, books, bars, movies, clothes, etc., etc. > This has resulted in a mindset that is full of fear, confusion and > guilt. > > " In Sahaja Yoga, you have to understand one simple thing, that you > are the Spirit and whatever is not the Spirit is not yourself. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi [Jagbir, it doesn't bear mentioning that the scribes and Pharisees of all past and present times are adept at ever so slightly changing the meaning of what the incarnation or prophet has given. They are so adept, in fact, that they have done it right in front of the noses of Shri Mataji's devotees (not their devotees) this time. And they have almost succeeded as most SYs seem oblivious to that fact. That's also why your outlining this stark difference is so very important and helpful - because we can all see that clearly now .... if we want to see it! It's especially important now for world spiritual emancipation. Sahaja Yogis themselves, now need to be awakened to the truth of the Self Within. They need to be awakened to the fact that they can have the Kundalini energy flowing freely on both hands on a 24/7 basis - if there are to be many leaders and Gurus of Sahaja Yoga, as Shri Mataji is hopefully requesting, now.] > iv) The Sahaja Yoga taught and practised in all SY collectives is > devoid of the fearless faith, deep healing and invigorating > nourishment of the Resurrection. Over the years this void has > spiritually bankrupted the Sahaja Yoga organization and brought it > down to its knees. The official editing out of the Comforter's > eschatological message has made SYs into spiritual zombies who > infect others with their SYSSR ....... a daily regimen of cleansing > rituals to rid the catches of fear, confusion and guilt. > > But what has the Cool Breeze of the Resurrection got to do with all > these mundane, external rituals? How can you feel vibrations of the > Resurrection 24/7 when there are so many reasons to feel the fear, > confusion and guilt of the SYSSR? > > " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the " Last > Judgment " and in the Koran as " Qiyamah " , the Resurrection Time. > Astrologically it is also called the Age of Aquarius, the time of > rebirth and of great spiritual development on the Earth. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " And in this great happening of the Last Judgment and the > Resurrection Time, one need not, and should not, believe blindfolded > in whatever is said about ascent or salvation, but should treat it > like a hypothesis, and observe the facts with an open mind like a, > scientist. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " In my opinion, every Westerner has, as a matter of urgency, to > understand the vital role he has to play in this great Age of > Transformation and of the Last Judgment. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " Thus, the establishment of global peace can only come through > people who have achieved this state in modern times which is very > special and I call it a Blossom Time. In the Bible, it is described > as the Last Judgment, also in the Koran it is called as Qiyamah (the > Resurrection time). " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " This is the Last Judgment. Either you will go to heaven or you will > go to hell. It's already working out like that. So let's see. Where > are you? So I have to again and again tell you as your mother, I > have to correct you and tell you that remember this is the Last > Judgment and please, don't take anymore to the activities which are > antichrist. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " Now this is the Last Judgment and those who miss will miss in any > case. Christ has said, " You will be calling Me Christ, Christ, but I > will not recognize you. " " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " This is the most important time because Sahaja Yoga is the Last > Judgment. It is fantastic to hear this but that's a fact and is the > truth. Though you can understand, that Mother's love makes it very > easy for you to get through your realization and that the whole > story of the Last Judgment looks such as horrifying experience has > been made very beautiful and very tender and delicate and does not > disturb you. But this is the Last Judgment I tell you, and you all > are going to be judged through Sahaja Yoga, whether, you can enter > into the kingdom of God or not. " > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi [Jagbir, we can all see that Shri Mataji has given a Universal Message that looks, smells, tastes and feels different from the SYSSR. From your clear description, i ask: " How can 'Sahaja Yoga taught and practiced in all SY collectives, devoid of the fearless faith, deep healing and invigorating nourishment of the the Resurrection'...... be that Universal Message? It can't! " Like you say: " Over the years this void has spiritually bankrupted the Sahaja Yoga organization and brought it down to its knees. The official editing out of the Comforter's eschatological message has made SYs into spiritual zombies who infect others with their SYSSR ....... a daily regimen of cleansing rituals to rid the catches of fear, confusion and guilt. " Yes, Jagbir, your description is just as it is! Yet, Sahaja Yogis can awaken the connection of self-realisation in another person, while still remaining in ignorance of the nature of the Self within! This is truly amazing. Many great seekers of the truth, previously, who were ascetics, knew and understood the nature of the Self within - yet could not give realisation to others. It is only because of the work that the incarnation of the Adi Shakti has done, that this is possible, and unprecedented! It's the case of the Primordial Kundalini/Divine Mother working it all out, despite all the ignorance that is surrounding us.] > v) SYs are made to believe that Sahaja Yoga is a Hindu thing, and > are constantly indoctrinated to that effect – dress, food, music, > deities, puja, altar, subtle system, etc. That effectively and > conveniently removes all traces and eschatology of the three great > faiths of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Other faiths like Sikhism > and Buddhism are marginalized. If that is not the case, i challenge > all SYs to prove me wrong as i know for a fact that all these faiths > are strictly against the very external images, rituals and worship > that SYs daily indulge in. > > As i was writing this i had a strong left Swadisthan catch (telling > me where their problem lies). So i will quote from the thick SYSSR > manual the mental knowledge of chakras that so impress SYs: > > " Swadhisthan Chakra > > The second chakra is the chakra of creativity, pure attention and > pure knowledge. It is the one which connects us to the inner source > of inspiration, and enables us to experience the beauty around us. > The pure knowledge given by this chakra is not mental, but it is > direct perception of the Reality, that can be felt in our palms and > indicates our subtle blockages. Also this is the center of pure, > steady attention and power of concentration. " www.sahajayoga.org > > So if you believe that " Sahaja Yoga unites the essence of all > religions', you will give up all the external images, rituals and > worship that these religions collectively reject. [That is a really good point, Jagbir, that " all these faiths are strictly against the very external images, rituals and worship that SYs daily indulge in " . ------------- So, the Divine must surely have made a way acceptable for them, to receive the knowledge of Sahaja Yoga " without all these external images, rituals, and worship " . Wouldn't that 'non-Hindu way' then be - to just turn to the Holy Spirit/Divine within, with the knowledge of Sahaja Yoga to accompany it? After all, Shri Mataji has completed all the dispensation of knowledge needed that Christ could not give at His time. Isn't accepting this knowledge and having their self-realisation then going to work it out? Shri Mataji did say that if we just give people their self-realisation, then things will start to work out within them. We just have to accept that. There could be an interdenominational organisation that caters to those who do not want anything to do with external images, rituals and worship. People should not be kept out of the loop just because they won't have anything to do with external images, rituals and worship - and i believe Shri Mataji also provided for that contingency, through Her teachings of Sahaja Yoga.] > In conclusion, it is obvious that most SYs like you really don't > understand how to look inside because the official SYSSR is all > about external images, rituals and worship. > > " That's where some of the Sahaja Yogis, who are still meddling with > things that they should not do, go down. And they don't understand > what is God is. But is not the understanding, in a way, you > understand this one little point - that it comes from your heart > into your brain; not from brain to your heart. It comes as if the > ambrosia of your bhakti covers your brain, absolutely… > > That's the real knowledge is to know what is God. And if that is God > then how can you suspect anything? How can you try to analyse > anything? It's God! It's God Almighty, which knows everything; which > does everything; which enjoys everything. > > That is the one, we should say, is the 'Gnyana', is the knowledge, > is the true knowledge, the pure knowledge. Is not the knowledge of > chakras; not the knowledge of vibrations; not the knowledge of > kundalini but the knowledge of God Almighty. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > Shivaratri Puja, Chiancian Terme, Italy, 16 Feb, 1991 > > More than three decades have passed since Shri Mataji opened the > Sahasrara and gave humanity the pure knowledge and technique of > Self-realization. Despite a life exclusively and selflessly > dedicated to that cause, Shri Mataji has so few devotees who have > realized the Self. It is indeed sad, perhaps even shocking, to find > that is true ... especially so if you consider that the SY > organization has always claimed that " Sahaja Yoga is a unique method > of meditation based on an experience called Self Realization that > can occur within each human being. " . The reality is that many SYs > like ssahajai " really don't understand how you look inside. " They > still do not know how to realize their Self ............. despite > years of Self-realization! > > Question: So how do you start realizing your Self (Spirit), feeling > vibrations (Cool Breeze of the Resurrection), reaching your > Sahasrara (Kingdom of God) again? How does one go beyond > everything... feel happy... spread mother's love and enjoy everybody > without any fear or without losing vibrations again? > > Answer: The only way is to discard the corrupted, conditioning and > confusing SYSSR and strictly following Shri Mataji's advent and > message of the Blossom Time. This is the most important time because > Sahaja Yoga is the Last Judgment. It is fantastic to hear this but > that's a fact and is the truth. Other than that you will definitely > spend an entire lifetime in SY collectives without ever realizing > your Self ......... or even realizing that the SYSSR does not bestow > the Self-realization that Shri Mataji talks about. > > regards, > > jagbir > , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > , Sahaji Sahaj > <ssahaji@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagbir bhaiya > > may be you are right i did not realise my self fully....but what i > > noticed that whenever i go with my husband to his guru's place...i > > feel heat and headache and that time it is very hard to put > > attention on my sahastra. > > not only that i lost my vibration. > > and the only reason i go with my husband to make him happy > > now it's fear in my mind....i want to reach on my sahastra...but > > all these things pulling me down. > > i like to spread sahajlove to everybody....doesn't matter they are > > sahajayogi or not. > > maybe i really don't understand how you look inside. > > sometimes i feel miserable when i loss my vibration. > > and that is the reason is stopping me to reach my sahastra. > > May be as as a sahajayogi i am not mature enough.....but i really > > like to go beyond everything...feel happy...spread mother's love > > and enjoy everybody without any fear or without feeling losing my > > vibration. > > how i do that???????? > > > > Dear ssahaji sister (and all), > > i have posted a number of articles which should make you realize that > Shri Mataji wants you to realize your own Self i.e., the essence and > presence of God Almighty or Brahman within all beings. However, since > you have been conditioned by the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System > Religion) for so many years your perception, reaction and resulting > confusion is the main cause of your present dilemma (and that of your > friend and daughter too). > > " Until you are able to understand the meaning of the " Self " , the > physical body would remain imperfect and would be unable to verify > the Truth. But once the physical instrument is connected with Truth, > you are able to verify the Truth. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > i will outline the important differences between Shri Mataji > teachings and the corruption/misinterpretation of those teachings in > SY collectives that most SYs are not aware: > > i) SYs are told that Shri Mataji is God Almighty, which She never > even mentioned once since opening the Sahasrara May 5, 1970. She is > not even the Adi Shakti but Her incarnation. This is most important > to realize as it will go along way in ridding yourself of the > falsehood that you have taken for granted. Indeed you will heal > faster if you begin meditating on the Divine Feminine (Adi Shakti/ > Shekinah/Holy Spirit/Ruh/Tao/Aykaa Mayee) within, as She is the > creative aspect and power of God Almighty. > > " The representatives of SadaShiva (God Almighty) and Adi Shakti (His > Power) in us are the Atma (Self) and the Kundalini (Mother). " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " Kundalini is our Mother, we are Her only children and She has been > with us through all our lives just waiting for the moment of > fulfillment. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " God has created man with his Shakti and man has to know Him, and > recognize Him through Kundalini awakening. Blossom Time has come and > many ancient seekers are today getting their Self-Realisation. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > ii) SYs are told to meditate on Shri Mataji's photograph but i have > never heard Her saying so! On the contrary, She always wanted us to > realize our Self, Thus it is a great relief to me when She clarified > that: > > " You can use my photograph, but the realization should not be from > the photograph, but from you. " > > Shri Mataji > Guru Puja, 20 July 2008, Cabella, Italy > > i know most SYs meditate on Shri Mataji's photograph that is placed > on the altar. You will never realize your Self this way. Even > grasping what i am talking about will seem confusing as your > attention is always on the photograph (where most SYs believe Shri > Mataji resides!), and you cannot figure out otherwise. But where is > your Self, my ssahaji sister? > > " But do you have your self-esteem? If you have then where should be > your attention? It should be on your Self. Where is your Self now? It > is God Almighty; it's part of that Great Primordial Being. Your > attention should be on that. > > After realization your attention should be in your heart, on your > spirit which is the part of God Almighty. If your attention is on > your spirit you will be amazed how your attention will act. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > 23 June 1980 > > " The object of Sahaja Yoga is basically to become and experience the > spiritual Self. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > iii) SYs associate vibrations (Cool Breeze/Ruach/Chaitanya/Qi) with > the subtle system although they were primarily to confirm birth by > the Spirit (awakening of Mother Kundalini), a promise made by Jesus > and fulfilled by the Comforter Shri Mataji sent by Him. > > " The enjoyment of life is only possible if the world could get > connected to the Spirit.... You become the spirit as Christ has said > in simple words that `you have to be born again.' " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " If we follow Him (Jesus) then we cannot be conditioned by anything > because He talked of Spirit only. Spirit cannot be conditioned, > conditioned by anything. . . . I am here to tell you all these things > which Christ could not tell, and to fulfil what He wanted to say. All > those things I am saying to you. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > Christmas Puja, Delhi, India — December 24, 1995 > > " Today we are celebrating the resurrection of Christ. With it we also > have to celebrate the resurrection of human beings, of Sahaja Yogis, > who have been resurrected as realised souls. With that we have to > understand that we enter into a new awareness. He had to come down > and again to show to this world that you are the eternal life, that > you lead a life that is spiritual, which never perishes. You have to > rise, into that new realm, which is the Realm of God Almighty, what > you call the Kingdom of God. > > And He said it very clearly to Nicodemus that `You have to be born > again' when he asked, `Am I to enter back into my mother's womb?' And > He said it so clearly. Those who don't want to see can remain blind. > No, that is, whatever is born of the flesh, is the flesh, but > whatever is born of the Spirit is the Spirit.' > > But whatever is manmade is not the Spirit. This is the clear > statement of Christ, which people wanted to avoid, and start their > own organisations, and ideas, and created a very mythical thing in > His name. And now the time has come for it to be blasted. It has been > going on and on now for thousands of years, captures so many innocent > people and people are into it. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > V4 No 23 Sept 84 p4 > > SYs have collectively corrupted the sacredness of vibrations for > mundane purposes, including giving Self-realization to bicycles, > finding parking space, chasing away municipal workers from digging > the road, etc., etc., ……. a list way too long, idiotic and depressing > to mention here. > > And with the 1001 catches of the SYSSR always infecting them, SYs > have conditioned themselves into thinking their subtle system needs > constant cleansing. There are endless reasons for catches – food, > people, billboards, gurus, books, bars, movies, clothes, etc., etc. > This has resulted in a mindset that is full of fear, confusion and > guilt. > > " In Sahaja Yoga, you have to understand one simple thing, that you > are the Spirit and whatever is not the Spirit is not yourself. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > iv) The Sahaja Yoga taught and practised in all SY collectives is > devoid of the fearless faith, deep healing and invigorating > nourishment of the Resurrection. Over the years this void has > spiritually bankrupted the Sahaja Yoga organization and brought it > down to its knees. The official editing out of the Comforter's > eschatological message has made SYs into spiritual zombies who infect > others with their SYSSR ....... a daily regimen of cleansing rituals > to rid the catches of fear, confusion and guilt. > > But what has the Cool Breeze of the Resurrection got to do with all > these mundane, external rituals? How can you feel vibrations of the > Resurrection 24/7 when there are so many reasons to feel the fear, > confusion and guilt of the SYSSR? > > " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the " Last > Judgment " and in the Koran as " Qiyamah " , the Resurrection Time. > Astrologically it is also called the Age of Aquarius, the time of > rebirth and of great spiritual development on the Earth. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " And in this great happening of the Last Judgment and the > Resurrection Time, one need not, and should not, believe blindfolded > in whatever is said about ascent or salvation, but should treat it > like a hypothesis, and observe the facts with an open mind like a, > scientist. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " In my opinion, every Westerner has, as a matter of urgency, to > understand the vital role he has to play in this great Age of > Transformation and of the Last Judgment. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " Thus, the establishment of global peace can only come through people > who have achieved this state in modern times which is very special > and I call it a Blossom Time. In the Bible, it is described as the > Last Judgment, also in the Koran it is called as Qiyamah (the > Resurrection time). " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " This is the Last Judgment. Either you will go to heaven or you will > go to hell. It's already working out like that. So let's see. Where > are you? So I have to again and again tell you as your mother, I have > to correct you and tell you that remember this is the Last Judgment > and please, don't take anymore to the activities which are > antichrist. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " Now this is the Last Judgment and those who miss will miss in any > case. Christ has said, " You will be calling Me Christ, Christ, but I > will not recognize you. " " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > " This is the most important time because Sahaja Yoga is the Last > Judgment. It is fantastic to hear this but that's a fact and is the > truth. Though you can understand, that Mother's love makes it very > easy for you to get through your realization and that the whole story > of the Last Judgment looks such as horrifying experience has been > made very beautiful and very tender and delicate and does not disturb > you. But this is the Last Judgment I tell you, and you all are going > to be judged through Sahaja Yoga, whether, you can enter into the > kingdom of God or not. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > > > v) SYs are made to believe that Sahaja Yoga is a Hindu thing, and are > constantly indoctrinated to that effect – dress, food, music, deities, > puja, altar, subtle system, etc. That effectively and conveniently > removes all traces and eschatology of the three great faiths of > Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Other faiths like Sikhism and > Buddhism are marginalized. If that is not the case, i challenge > all SYs to prove me wrong as i know for a fact that all these faiths > are strictly against the very external images, rituals and worship > that SYs daily indulge in. > > As i was writing this i had a strong left Swadisthan catch (telling > me where their problem lies). So i will quote from the thick SYSSR > manual the mental knowledge of chakras that so impress SYs: > > " Swadhisthan Chakra > > The second chakra is the chakra of creativity, pure attention and > pure knowledge. It is the one which connects us to the inner source > of inspiration, and enables us to experience the beauty around us. > The pure knowledge given by this chakra is not mental, but it is > direct perception of the Reality, that can be felt in our palms and > indicates our subtle blockages. Also this is the center of pure, > steady attention and power of concentration. " www.sahajayoga.org > > So if you believe that " Sahaja Yoga unites the essence of all > religions', you will give up all the external images, rituals and > worship that these religions collectively reject. > > In conclusion, it is obvious that most SYs like you really don't > understand how to look inside because the official SYSSY is all about > external images, rituals and worship. > > " That's where some of the Sahaja Yogis, who are still meddling with > things that they should not do, go down. And they don't understand > what is God is. But is not the understanding, in a way, you > understand this one little point - that it comes from your heart into > your brain; not from brain to your heart. It comes as if the ambrosia > of your bhakti covers your brain, absolutely… > > That's the real knowledge is to know what is God. And if that is God > then how can you suspect anything? How can you try to analyses > anything? It's God! It's God Almighty, which knows everything; which > does everything; which enjoys everything. > > That is the one, we should say, is the 'Gnyana', is the knowledge, is > the true knowledge, the pure knowledge. Is not the knowledge of > chakras; not the knowledge of vibrations; not the knowledge of > kundalini but the knowledge of God Almighty. " > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi > Shivaratri Puja, Chiancian Terme, Italy, 16 Feb, 1991 > > More than three decades have passed since Shri Mataji opened the > Sahasrara and gave humanity the pure knowledge and technique of Self- > realization. Despite a life exclusively and selflessly dedicated to > that cause, Shri Mataji has so few devotees who have realized the > Self. It is indeed sad, perhaps even shocking, to find that is true > ... especially so if you consider that the SY organization has always > claimed that " Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on > an experience called Self Realization that can occur within each > human being. " . The reality is that many SYs like ssahajai " really > don't understand how you look inside. " They still do not know how to > realize their Self ............. despite years of Self-realization! > > Question: So how do you start realizing your Self (Spirit), feeling > vibrations (Cool Breeze of the Resurrection), reaching your Sahasrara > (Kingdom of God) again? How does one go beyond everything... feel > happy... spread mother's love and enjoy everybody without any fear or > without losing vibrations again? > > Answer: The only way is to discard the corrupted, conditioning and > confusing SYSSR and strictly following Shri Mataji's advent and > message of the Blossom Time. This is the most important time because > Sahaja Yoga is the Last Judgment. It is fantastic to hear this but > that's a fact and is the truth. Other than that you will definitely > spend an entire lifetime in SY collectives without ever realizing your > Self ......... or even realizing that the SYSSR does not bestow the > Self-realization that Shri Mataji talks about. > > regards, > > jagbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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