We want to understand the message of Shri Mataji on Guru Puja 2008

August 30, 2008

If you are a SY please tell us how you and your friends understand the

future of SY. What will happen after this moment and what you want to

do?

In my opinion it is necessary to begin another organization with other

name, like " Eva Yoga " . The practice will be the same, but with the

possibility to improve the methodology with your own view. The

knowledge will be the same. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi will be mention

as the incarnation of Holly Spirit in the same manner that we mention

today in SY Lord Jesus. Sahaja Yoga will continue in the same manner

as today. And I think there will be a kind of committee for certifying

that you are guru, you have the master diploma in Sahaja Yoga.

I think that is possible to create another modality to give self

realization: may be laugh therapy.

I talked with a SY who attended Guru Puja in Cabella. I ask him: how

he understands the message of Shri Mataji? He said: " Is very hard to

became a guru. We have problem with our behavior. We are like other

collectivities from other sects or religions most of the time. Shri

Mataji is playing with us. And there are people who raise their

hands...believing that they are good to be guru. May be, they don't

realised how hard it is. Only the musicians don't raise their hands. I

think they know how hard you must practice to play an instrument and

make music "

I talked with an exSY and he told me that " if you are in collectivity

you are dependent to others and you don't assume the responsibilities

for your behavior and you don't use intuition to be different. People

will come to another guru because he will have other things to say,

new ones. " Can you imagine all of you, if you become gurus, how many

Sahaja Yogis we'll have all over the world? " (Guru Puja 2008) Why it

will be more disciples if we become guru than if we don't and we

continu on the SY exactly as today. The reason is because every guru

will come with something new, original. SY will vary like a flower

with thousand petals.

Monica

August 31, 2008

Dear Monica and all,

If you are a SY you will understand Shri Mataji's message. It is what She has

always said - that we have to become our own master, teacher, or guru, and

transform the humanity. It really is simple. What gets complicated is when

people try to mentally decide what to do next.

We are going to form our own organisation. That is a start. Sahaja Yoga as it is

in one organisation is too big. And there are a few that try to rule everyone in

a big organisation. It becomes like a chain store, trying to make all the

products and people uniform, which destroys the Spirit of Sahaja Yoga.

Sahaja Yoga is not an international chain store, where the product and people

remain the same. Sahaja Yoga is not a fixed state like that. Sahaja Yoga is

one's union with the Divine; their Resurrection to become their Spirit.

In the first place, all we have to do is to be true to that Spirit and grow in

Spirit, to become our own guru, master, and teacher. Most people will do that

for the rest of their life, especially if they remain on the SYSSR, where they

can never become free of catches, therefore never become a guru of themselves,

let alone of others.

As a Sahaja Yogi and possible master, teacher, or guru of Sahaja Yoga, the

Divine Within is our Guru. The Holy Spirit is our Guru. We don't follow human

beings. We follow the Holy Spirit, Adi Shakti, within our being. We are one with

that being. That is what Sahaja Yoga is: Union with the Divine. Once that union

happens, transformation begins in earnest, through the power of that Union.

Those who haven't got rid of their catches, have not yet availed themselves of

the power, of that Union - in spirit and in truth. They are still hanging on to

their ego and conditionings.

Like you say some people will probably form a committee to certify a guru. That

is the way of all religion. They have committees to certify the next pope, imam,

minister, priest, or whatever.

When a person has their spiritual understanding, they automatically become a

guru. They know through their own vibrations. Personally, i am not interested in

becoming a guru that people bow to and all that. i just want to keep continuing

to do my work. And give my love in my heart to help resurrect the humanity.

There are no fancy ideas, just hard work and dedication. i like an organisation

where nobody is the guru as such, but where we all come together in spiritual

fellowship and meditate and share together. Where we realise that the true Guru

is only the Holy Spirit Within. Where we remain humble in that knowledge. In a

humble, loving, organisation like that, it is the love that will draw people to

have their Resurrection. It is very simple, that way, in my opinion. And all the

spiritual truths of all the incarnations must be taught and come to be known

within themselves.

regards to all,

violet

, " monicailea76 "

<monicailea76 wrote:

>

> If you are a SY please tell us how you and your friends understand the

> future of SY. What will happen after this moment and what you want to

> do?

> In my opinion it is necessary to begin another organization with other

> name, like " Eva Yoga " . The practice will be the same, but with the

> possibility to improve the methodology with your own view. The

> knowledge will be the same. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi will be mention

> as the incarnation of Holly Spirit in the same manner that we mention

> today in SY Lord Jesus. Sahaja Yoga will continue in the same manner

> as today. And I think there will be a kind of committee for certifying

> that you are guru, you have the master diploma in Sahaja Yoga.

>

> I think that is possible to create another modality to give self

> realization: may be laugh therapy.

>

> I talked with a SY who attended Guru Puja in Cabella. I ask him: how

> he understands the message of Shri Mataji? He said: " Is very hard to

> became a guru. We have problem with our behavior. We are like other

> collectivities from other sects or religions most of the time. Shri

> Mataji is playing with us. And there are people who raise their

> hands...believing that they are good to be guru. May be, they don't

> realised how hard it is. Only the musicians don't raise their hands. I

> think they know how hard you must practice to play an instrument and

> make music "

> I talked with an exSY and he told me that " if you are in collectivity

> you are dependent to others and you don't assume the responsibilities

> for your behavior and you don't use intuition to be different. People

> will come to another guru because he will have other things to say,

> new ones. " Can you imagine all of you, if you become gurus, how many

> Sahaja Yogis we'll have all over the world? " (Guru Puja 2008) Why it

> will be more disciples if we become guru than if we don't and we

> continu on the SY exactly as today. The reason is because every guru

> will come with something new, original. SY will vary like a flower

> with thousand petals.

>

> Monica

>

August 31, 2008

Dear Violet,

Excellent description in true Shaja way. I truly appreciate it.

All,

Just to add, by sahaja definition Guru is the one who teach to understand what is good for you and what is not good for you. Guru is the one who teach to first look at your own faults and not of others and teach how to correct them.

So, when you come to Sahaja Yoga and get your enlightenment/self realization, your spirit and attention also become enlighten and in that light will able to see and understand yourself completely and gets discretion of good and bad things and method to correct bad in you.

Also, it is hard to understand the Guru State with intellect. It is something you understand only when you experience it and for that one need to give one self some time and just follow the SY practice. With time he/she will experience and understand the truth and get answer to all there questions.

With Nirmal Love,

Vishwa AnuragHAVE A NICE DAY

--- On Mon, 9/1/08, Violet <violetubb wrote:

Violet <violetubb Re: We want to understand the message of Shri Mataji on Guru Puja 2008 Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 1:22 AM

Dear Monica and all,If you are a SY you will understand Shri Mataji's message. It is what She has always said - that we have to become our own master, teacher, or guru, and transform the humanity. It really is simple. What gets complicated is when people try to mentally decide what to do next. We are going to form our own organisation. That is a start. Sahaja Yoga as it is in one organisation is too big. And there are a few that try to rule everyone in a big organisation. It becomes like a chain store, trying to make all the products and people uniform, which destroys the Spirit of Sahaja Yoga.Sahaja Yoga is not an international chain store, where the product and people remain the same. Sahaja Yoga is not a fixed state like that. Sahaja Yoga is one's union with the Divine; their Resurrection to become their Spirit. In the first place, all we have to do is to be true to that Spirit and grow in Spirit, to become our own

guru, master, and teacher. Most people will do that for the rest of their life, especially if they remain on the SYSSR, where they can never become free of catches, therefore never become a guru of themselves, let alone of others.As a Sahaja Yogi and possible master, teacher, or guru of Sahaja Yoga, the Divine Within is our Guru. The Holy Spirit is our Guru. We don't follow human beings. We follow the Holy Spirit, Adi Shakti, within our being. We are one with that being. That is what Sahaja Yoga is: Union with the Divine. Once that union happens, transformation begins in earnest, through the power of that Union. Those who haven't got rid of their catches, have not yet availed themselves of the power, of that Union - in spirit and in truth. They are still hanging on to their ego and conditionings.Like you say some people will probably form a committee to certify a guru. That is the way of all religion. They have committees to certify the

next pope, imam, minister, priest, or whatever. When a person has their spiritual understanding, they automatically become a guru. They know through their own vibrations. Personally, i am not interested in becoming a guru that people bow to and all that. i just want to keep continuing to do my work. And give my love in my heart to help resurrect the humanity. There are no fancy ideas, just hard work and dedication. i like an organisation where nobody is the guru as such, but where we all come together in spiritual fellowship and meditate and share together. Where we realise that the true Guru is only the Holy Spirit Within. Where we remain humble in that knowledge. In a humble, loving, organisation like that, it is the love that will draw people to have their Resurrection. It is very simple, that way, in my opinion. And all the spiritual truths of all the incarnations must be taught and come to be known within themselves.regards to

all,violetadishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, "monicailea76"<monicailea76@ ...> wrote:>> If you are a SY please tell us how you and your friends understand the > future of SY. What will happen after this moment and what you want to > do? > In my opinion it is necessary to begin another organization with other > name, like "Eva Yoga". The practice will be the same, but with the > possibility to improve the methodology with your own view. The > knowledge will be the same. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi will be mention > as the incarnation of Holly Spirit in the same manner that we mention > today in SY Lord Jesus. Sahaja Yoga will continue in the same manner > as today. And I think there will be a kind of committee for certifying > that you are guru, you

have the master diploma in Sahaja Yoga.> > I think that is possible to create another modality to give self > realization: may be laugh therapy. > > I talked with a SY who attended Guru Puja in Cabella. I ask him: how > he understands the message of Shri Mataji? He said: "Is very hard to > became a guru. We have problem with our behavior. We are like other > collectivities from other sects or religions most of the time. Shri > Mataji is playing with us. And there are people who raise their > hands...believing that they are good to be guru. May be, they don't > realised how hard it is. Only the musicians don't raise their hands. I > think they know how hard you must practice to play an instrument and > make music" > I talked with an exSY and he told me that "if you are in collectivity > you are dependent to others and you don't assume the

responsibilities > for your behavior and you don't use intuition to be different. People > will come to another guru because he will have other things to say, > new ones. "Can you imagine all of you, if you become gurus, how many > Sahaja Yogis we'll have all over the world?" (Guru Puja 2008) Why it > will be more disciples if we become guru than if we don't and we > continu on the SY exactly as today. The reason is because every guru > will come with something new, original. SY will vary like a flower > with thousand petals. > > Monica>