Shri Mataji: He (Jesus) was the Holiest of the Holy. You accept that position.

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> We urgently need to have more research/quotes to support the Divine

> Feminine, especially that related to the Holy Spirit and Comforter.

> There is no question that far more can be accomplished by focussing

> our attention and energies on these topics, than anything else.

> There are many books out there from which we can extract relevant

> quotes and synthesize them with Shri Mataji's teachings about Jesus

> Christ and the Good News. Shri Mataji's advent and message must be

> supported thus, an approach that will eventually work out as more

> seekers are enlightened by the Comforter.

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Pagels on " The Truth at the Heart of the DVC "

 

So many Christians throughout the world knew and revered these books

that it took more than 200 years for hardworking church leaders who

denounced the texts to successfully suppress them. [...]

 

Irenaeus said there could be only four gospels because, according to

the science of the time, there were four principal winds and four

pillars that hold up the sky. Why these four gospels? He explained

that only they were actually written by eyewitnesses of the events

they describe -- Jesus' disciples Matthew and John, or by Luke and

Mark, who were disciples of the disciples.

 

Few scholars today would agree with Irenaeus. We cannot verify who

actually wrote any of these accounts, and many scholars agree that

the disciples themselves are not likely to be their authors. [...]

 

What, then, do these texts say, and why did certain leaders find them

so threatening?

 

First, they suggest that the way to God can be found by anyone who

seeks. According to the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus suggests that when we

come to know ourselves at the deepest level, we come to know God: " If

you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save

you. " This message -- to seek for oneself -- was not one that bishops

like Irenaeus appreciated: Instead, he insisted, one must come to God

through the church, " outside of which, " he said, " there is no

salvation. "

 

Second, in texts that the bishops called " heresy " , Jesus appears as

human, yet one through whom the light of God now shines. So,

according to the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus said, " I am the light that

is before all things; I am all things; all things come forth from me;

all things return to me. Split a piece of wood, and I am there; lift

up a rock, and you will find me there. " To Irenaeus, the thought of

the divine energy manifested through all creation, even rocks and

logs, sounded dangerously like pantheism. People might end up

thinking that they could be like Jesus themselves and, in fact, the

Gospel of Philip says, " Do not seek to become a Christian, but a

Christ. " [...]

 

Worst of all, perhaps, was that many of these secret texts speak of

God not only in masculine images, but also in feminine images. The

Secret Book of John tells how the disciple John, grieving after Jesus

was crucified, suddenly saw a vision of a brilliant light, from which

he heard Jesus' voice speaking to him: " John, John, why do you weep?

Don't you recognize who I am? I am the Father; I am the Mother; and I

am the Son. " After a moment of shock, John realizes that the divine

Trinity includes not only Father and Son but also the divine Mother,

which John sees as the Holy Spirit, the feminine manifestation of the

divine.

 

- Elaine Pagels, Perspective

 

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Dear Nicole and All,

 

This is precisely the research/quotes i am talking about because even

i am learning from them ........... despite spending almost 15 years

in meditation, cross-examining the scriptures against Shri Mataji's

lectures/each other, and being enlightened by the Holy Spirit within.

 

There are two things that cannot be bypassed or ignored, no matter

your religion, if you want to attain the eternal afterlife/moksa. It

is the message of both Jesus and the Comforter sent in the name of God

Almighty. Everything that Jesus spoke two millennia ago has been

clarified and explained in detail to all humanity by the Holy Spirit.

In fact the Comforter has recalled to their minds Jesus' teachings,

enabled them to understand truly and completely, and developed and

expanded them into new and wonderful truths--Kingdom of God, Good

News, being born again of the Spirit, Cool Breeze of the Holy Spirit,

worshipping God in truth and Spirit, Last Judgment, Resurrection,

Second Coming etc.--and radically turning all our spiritual seeking,

attention and worship of God Almighty/Self/Brahman within. And the

Comforter, who has spend more than 30 years glorifying and exalting

Him above all other incarnations, has declared " He was the Holiest of

the Holy. You accept that position. "

 

There are a number of important facts to be properly grasped before

the above paragraph makes sense:

 

i) Shri Mataji: " I am here to do the job of God Almighty. "

 

ii) Shri Mataji: " I am the Adi Shakti. "

 

iii) Shri Mataji: " The religion of Christianity or any religion is

the religion of the living God. At different times, there were great

flowers on the Tree of Life, but we plucked them and said, " This is

mine; this is mine " and we are fighting the dead. But in Sahaja Yoga,

you will know the beauty of all these great prophets and you will be

amazed how they have enriched us; all of them. "

 

iv) Shri Mataji: " When you believe in God you believe in the darkness

and ignorance, and when you do not believe in Him also you are in

ignorance. By believing into you close your eyes, accept the faith

and go along with it. Of course it shows that you are conscious of

some Power which is beyond. Such people have a great chance. But in

the case if you go to these extremes in this kind of faith then you

start only believing in Christ, only believing in Muhammad, only

believing in Krishna — I mean depending on where you are born. How

human beings are so narrow-minded? "

 

v) Shri Mataji: " If we have to change this world, and if we have to

save our people from complete destruction, we have to take to wisdom,

and that is only possible when the brain is enlightened by Kundalini.

This is what is very important today, when we see that this world is

on the verge of destruction. Of course, the Creator himself is very

anxious to save us and that is why he has in these modern times which

are called Kali Yuga, made the all-pervading power activated. "

 

vi) Shri Mataji: " You are yourself and you must see yourself as your

Self, as your Spirit. And Spirit is a Universal Being, is the

innocence, is the virgin within you. This body is a palace and it is

the House of God. Within it God kept the Infinite Flame. "

 

vii) Shri Mataji: " The main thing that one has to understand is that

the time has come for you to get all that is promised in the

scriptures, not only in the Bible but all the scriptures of the

world. The time has come today that you have to become a Christian, a

Brahmin, a Pir, through your Kundalini awakening only. There is no

other way. And that your Last Judgment is also now. "

 

viii) Shri Mataji: " This is the most important time because Sahaja

Yoga is the Last Judgment. It is fantastic to have this, but that's a

fact and is the truth, though you can understand that Mother's Love

makes it very easy for you to get through your realisation, and that

the whole story of the Last Judgment looks such as horrifying

experience, has been made very beautiful and very tender and delicate

and does not disturb you. But this is the Last Judgment, I tell you,

and you are all going to be judged through Sahaja Yoga, whether you

can enter into the Kingdom of God or not. "

 

ix) Shri Mataji: " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as

the " Last Judgment " and in the Koran as " Qiyamah " , the Resurrection

Time. Astrologically it is also called the Age of Aquarius, the time

of rebirth and of great spiritual development on the Earth. "

 

x) Shri Mataji: " I am here to tell you all these things which Christ

could not tell, and to fulfil what He wanted to say. All those things

I am saying to you. "

 

xi) Shri Mataji: " " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy

Ghost and I have come for this Special Time, that is, the

Resurrection Time. "

 

xii) Shri Mataji: " Now this is the Last Judgment and those who miss

will miss in any case. Christ has said, " You will be calling Me

Christ, Christ, but I will not recognize you. " So understand you have

to become the Spirit as Christ has said, " You are to be born again. "

You may have faith in me or not - doesn't matter. You must have faith

in yourself to begin with. "

 

xiii) Shri Mataji: " The representatives of Sadashiva and Adi Shakti

in us are the Atma and the Kundalini. "

 

xiv) Shri Mataji: " Kundalini is our Mother, we are Her only children,

and She has been with us through all our lives just waiting for the

moment of fulfilment. "

 

xv) Shri Mataji: " Meditation is nothing but the state of remaining

in the constant company of the every-loving Bhagawati. "

 

xvi) Shri Mataji: " God has created man with his Shakti and man has to

know Him, and recognize Him through Kundalini Awakening. Blossom Time

has come and many ancient seekers are today getting their Self-

Realization. "

 

xvii) Shri Mataji: " Adi Kundalini is the Primordial Kundalini. She is

one of the powers of the Primordial Mother and is reflected in human

beings as Kundalini. A great deal of work went into this Incarnation.

Major work had to be done to create a very strong spinal column so

that it could support the Adi Kundalini, which is responsible for all

this great work of transformation. The Adi Kundalini had all the

powers of redemption, but She also had to know how to help human

beings, what their problems are, how to bring them to an understanding

of Sahaja Yoga and the need for their ascent. Many sources of energy

and knowledge had to be used because the world in which the Primordial

Kundalini has to work out is very complicated. We have all kinds of

conditionings and inhibitions, very different from the people who

came to the Himalayas, who were very surrendered. She had to

understand all aspects of human beings, so as to communicate with the

Adi Kundalini. She also needed to come as Shri Mahamaya so that we

would not be frightened or feel distant from Her. "

 

xviii) Shri Mataji: " Jesus Christ said that we should be born again.

In our country we refer to this process as Dwija or born for the

second time. The second birth of any human being is possible only by

awakening of Kundalini Power. So long as the Kundalini is not

awakened, one will not acquire the second birth, and so long as we do

not have rebirth we will not be able to recognize God. You read the

Bible after Realization. You will be surprised to know that Jesus

Christ has told nothing but the importance of Sahaja Yoga. Everything

has been explained with minor details. Those who have no insight,

misrepresent the matters. "

 

xix) Shri Mataji: " In reality, giving Baptism means the awakening of

the Kundalini Power so that after it rises and pierces the Sahasrara,

there is the union of the All-Pervading Power of God and the

Kundalini Power. This, in fact, is the final job of the Kundalini

Power. But the clergy know nothing about this. On the contrary, they

are vainly trying to do something which they are not even authorized

to do. "

 

xx) Shri Mataji: " " So within us lies that Power and that Power is

anxious to give you your second birth. That Power lies as shown, lies

in the triangular bone of sacrum and you can see with your naked eyes

the rising of this Power. It has nothing to do with what nationality

you have come from, what sort of clothes you are wearing, what sort

of hair dress you have — it has nothing to do with this but it has to

do something with your inner being. And while in your inner being

there are certain problems which you have created out of your

ignorance, and this Power being your Mother — your sweet loving

Mother who has been born again and again with you — knows your

problems and She knows how to correct it. "

 

Note: When Jesus and Shri Mataji talks about God Almighty you have to

give up all your mental concepts and conditionings about the Creator.

 

One should realize that Jesus spoke about the Creator with far more

authority, power and depth than Abraham, Moses and Prophet Muhammad.

Even more significant is the fact that Jesus already existed eons

before Abraham, Moses and Prophet Muhammad, and declared that without

any fear: " Before Abraham was, I Am " . John 8:58-59 says explicitly

that Jews took up stones to cast on Jesus when the latter said that

" before Abraham was, I am " , despite never claiming to be God Almighty.

The Comforter gives evidence to support Jesus' extraordinary claim,

and counsels us that He was in fact speaking the truth:

 

" In the Puranas, in the ancient scriptures of India, Christ is

described so very clearly. Actually in the Bible what they saw of Him

when He was on this Earth was written down, but not in what created

Him; how He came on this Earth; what is the Spirit of Christ; what is

the seed of Christ; and how He came; and what was His purpose; and

where does He stand within us. And all those things are not described

in the Bible.

 

As I told you the people at that time were not at all aware of His

greatness or His special Incarnation. But if you read some of these

ancient books you will find that He was called as Mahavishnu in the

Devi Purana, in the Goddess Purana. It is the ancient scriptures of

the Goddess. Mahavishnu was created immaculately...

 

This special happening took place long time back. This is at the

stage of Vaikuntha as you call it. At that stage nothing existed as

far as this world was concerned. At different stages it came. We see

the world in such a way that it was created in seven days. Actually

these are seven stages when the whole Universe was created and we are

at the seventh stage we can say. Now at the first Vaikuntha stage

where it was all decided how to work it out, the creation of this

great personality of the Son of God (was created) — the Greatest of

All, the Adhara, the Support of the Universe, the Mahavishnu. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

The New Age Has Started, Houston, USA — October 6, 1981

 

" But in the West we still are very much attached to the nonsense of

Christianity. It has nothing to do with Christ, believe Me, and this

fanaticism which is lingering still in your mind must be given up,

otherwise you do not do any justice to Christ. That by no chance means

you take to another religion like Hinduism or any other nonsensical

Jainism, or anything. The essence, the Tattwa, of Christianity is

Christ. And it is so thickly clouded by all these nonsensical things

that you really have to drop this word " Christianity " from your

vocabulary completely, and from your mind. Otherwise you can never go

to the essence. It is a fact; take it from Me.

 

And even now the attention of all the people is on what Christ said,

or Mother Mary has said it, and which has come through these horrible

people to us. So to learn about other Deities and other great

Incarnations, we neutralize. We must try to neutralize too much

attention by learning about other Deities, say, Shri Ganesha. If you

talk about Shri Ganesha, He is the essence of Christ, and Christ is

the manifestation of Shri Ganesha's Powers. So, if you go to the

essence of most things, you see, that is better. Then, of course,

Christ is there but we must see in Him, as He is, which very few

people has seen before. But now in Sahaja Yoga you should see Him as

He was. He was the Holiest of the Holy. You accept that position. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Christmas Eve Talk, Pune, India — December 24, 1982

 

Yes, Jesus Christ is " the Holiest of the Holy " and " You accept that

position " . But if you follow any guardian of the religious regimes

you will be as blind and ignorant as those who lead you — priests,

pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs,

shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins,

acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, and dalai lamas.

The same goes for those following the WCASY (World Council for the

Advancement of Sahaja Yoga) and their SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle

System Religion).

 

Just ask yourself: " How much do they know about the Christ within,

the Holy Spirit within, the Kingdom of God within, the Comforter

within, being born again from within, experiencing the Cool Breeze of

the Holy Spirit from within, and the commencement of Last Judgment and

Resurrection from within? " The answer: " It has nothing to do with

Christ, believe Me. "

 

And since Christians cannot possibly learn about God Almighty and the

essence of Christ's teachings from their churches, can they do so

from any other religion(s)? The Comforter's answer is crystal clear:

 

" That by no chance means you take to another religion like Hinduism

or any other nonsensical Jainism, or anything. "

 

i know without any doubt whatsoever that the Comforter is absolutely

right because i too don't follow any religion in particular, even to

learn about Christ and His message. The main thing that one has to

understand is that the time has come to get all that is promised in

the scriptures, not only in the Bible but all the scriptures of the

world .............. which is the eternal afterlife! The Adi Shakti

has triggered that collective promise, with personal experience of

the Cool Breeze of the Holy Spirit to back the Resurrection.

 

God can be found by anyone who seeks. According to the Gospel of

Thomas, Jesus suggests that when we come to know ourselves at the

deepest level, we come to know God: " If you bring forth what is

within you, what you bring forth will save you. " All the religions

and philosophies tell us of Union with the Divine, but are unable to

make this experience a reality. This knowledge is only accessible in

sayings and remains fixed at the mental level, keeping us far from

the pure knowledge, which springs from the source inside human beings.

This realization of, and union with Self (atma jnana) is what the

Comforter has been tirelessly preaching for more than three decades.

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir