i know for a fact that the SYSSR go against the very realization of your Self!

September 9, 2008

, " kousikgsh "

<kousikgsh wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir & others,

>

> I'm Kousik from India, 23 years of age, Male. I'm one of the

> victims of Danny ...where he purposefully misguided me ...made me

> roam here n there ...I was in love with a girl ..and he caused such

> havoc to us ...and now he says that he played karma

> games ...actually he relishes in doing evil ..he forgot how he had

> his realization though...according to him ..I'm the reincarnation

> of Zen ...the Bodhidharma....he says that he did it because i had

> lots of pride and my self being very hard.

>

> Actually , it helped me a bit ..because of the havoc he did ,i

> realized the importance of worship , mantras & other stuff ...i

> thought that only meditation has meaning ...but still ..his actions

> are n't really justifiable....Anyone talking to him ...I just warn

> you guys ...even the Gods are against him.

>

> Kousik

>

Hi Kousik,

You are now grateful that you have " realized the importance of

worship, mantras & other stuff " of the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle

System Religion). When are you _ever_ going to realize your Self and

seek guidance, healing and enlightenment from within?

You are more foolish than you think ...... since Danny was your guide.

Please don't bring this unpleasant pettiness on this forum again

because there are subtle system experts who can help you at:

divinesahajayoga/

as they believe they can get rid of your ignorance/misfortune with the

1001 cures they have. We however believe that you can only get rid of

your ignorance/misfortune by learning to be your own master, and

realizing your Self ...... and that excludes your having " realized

the importance of worship, mantras & other stuff " of the SYSSR. We

are not at all interested in any external rituals/images/attention

that you have learnt from your SY collective, whose importance you

are just realizing. i know for a fact that the SYSSR go against the

very realization of your Self! i am willing to chisel this truth in

granite and stand on it for the rest of my life ...................

without budging an inch!

i also know for a fact that the SYSSR go against the very realization

of the Comforter's message to humanity. i doubt you have any idea

Kousik of how much it has corrupted your conscience, and resurrection

into the eternal spirit! i am sure this is the first time you are

hearing such an accusation, an accusation that i am again willing to

chisel in granite and stand on it for the rest of my life ..........

.......... again, without budging an inch!

regards,

jagbir

September 9, 2008

Hello Jagbir,

I was just warning those who may be talking to him and i'm not part

of SYSSR ...in fact , i'm not even a sahaja yogi ...haven't attended

any meetings ..but i have no doubt that Mataji is an incarnation and

i have felt the cool breeze only at the sahaja yoga website ..not

anywhere else....actually my K awakened after doing zen ..i have no

idea how. I see so much truth in sahaja yoga.

What you said is true ...only following non-attachment or witnessing

your thoughts...one can get realized ...but you think that

worship/mantras/visualizations have no meaning ? ...no meaning at

all ? ..What is the importance of so many deities and gods

then ? ...I actually felt the energy when i chanted the

mantras ...Only meditation is the tool here ..yes the Only

tool ...the rest is not in your hands ...but all the other things

like mantras have no merit ?

Imo, it's great when both are combined ...just like the path of

ancient vedic rishis like Vashishta, Thirumoolar etc...

Nice to meet you

Kousik

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> , " kousikgsh "

> <kousikgsh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir & others,

> >

> > I'm Kousik from India, 23 years of age, Male. I'm one of the

> > victims of Danny ...where he purposefully misguided me ...made me

> > roam here n there ...I was in love with a girl ..and he caused

such

> > havoc to us ...and now he says that he played karma

> > games ...actually he relishes in doing evil ..he forgot how he had

> > his realization though...according to him ..I'm the reincarnation

> > of Zen ...the Bodhidharma....he says that he did it because i had

> > lots of pride and my self being very hard.

> >

> > Actually , it helped me a bit ..because of the havoc he did ,i

> > realized the importance of worship , mantras & other stuff ...i

> > thought that only meditation has meaning ...but still ..his

actions

> > are n't really justifiable....Anyone talking to him ...I just warn

> > you guys ...even the Gods are against him.

> >

> > Kousik

> >

>

> Hi Kousik,

>

> You are now grateful that you have " realized the importance of

> worship, mantras & other stuff " of the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle

> System Religion). When are you _ever_ going to realize your Self and

> seek guidance, healing and enlightenment from within?

>

> You are more foolish than you think ...... since Danny was your

guide.

> Please don't bring this unpleasant pettiness on this forum again

> because there are subtle system experts who can help you at:

>

> divinesahajayoga/

>

> as they believe they can get rid of your ignorance/misfortune with

the

> 1001 cures they have. We however believe that you can only get rid

of

> your ignorance/misfortune by learning to be your own master, and

> realizing your Self ...... and that excludes your having " realized

> the importance of worship, mantras & other stuff " of the SYSSR. We

> are not at all interested in any external rituals/images/attention

> that you have learnt from your SY collective, whose importance you

> are just realizing. i know for a fact that the SYSSR go against the

> very realization of your Self! i am willing to chisel this truth in

> granite and stand on it for the rest of my life ...................

> without budging an inch!

>

> i also know for a fact that the SYSSR go against the very

realization

> of the Comforter's message to humanity. i doubt you have any idea

> Kousik of how much it has corrupted your conscience, and

resurrection

> into the eternal spirit! i am sure this is the first time you are

> hearing such an accusation, an accusation that i am again willing to

> chisel in granite and stand on it for the rest of my life ..........

> ......... again, without budging an inch!

>

> regards,

>

> jagbir

>

September 9, 2008

Dear Jagbir,

I was just warning those who may be talking to him ...I'm not

interested in doing a research on him ..and I myself don't like to

pray or worship ...I see the collective whole as this body ..Kousik

is a Cell ...Jagbir is a Cell ...so we all are one ...and my path is

that of a researcher ...Since this mind is incapable ..i go beyond

the mind (non-attachment or going within).

Having said that , Chanting mantras and worship have meaning ..b4

that ..i denied it ...They are of little use though ..one can't say

that they have no use ..as i felt the energy of Gods when i chanted

their mantras ..and for your information Jagbir ..I'm not a sahaja

Yogi ....but i have great respect for Mataji and sahaja yoga ..I see

so much truth in it . My kundalini awakened after doing zen

meditation ...it's said that one needs transmission for Kundalini to

awaken...but it was different in my case.

SO ..i myself don't favour it ..but now i'm not against it ..b4 that

I was.

Nice to meet you , Jagbir .