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Dear All,

 

We concluded Part 2 with the following:

 

(P.24) " By witnessing the awesome tragedy of Dionysus, the initiates at Eleusis

shared in his suffering, death and resurrection, and so experienced a spiritual

purification known as 'catharsis'.[34]

 

(P.25) The Mysteries did not offer religious dogmas to simply be believed, but a

myth to be entered into. Initiation was not about learning something, but about

experiencing an altered state of awareness. Plutarch, a Pagan high priest,

confesses that those who had been initiated could produce no proof of the

beliefs that they acquired. Aristotle maintains, 'It is not necessary for the

initiated to learn anything, but to receive impressions and to be put in a

certain frame of mind.'[35] The philosopher Proclus talks of the Mysteries as

evoking a 'sympathy of the soul with the ritual in a way that is unintelligible

to us and divine, so that some of the initiates are stricken with panic, being

filled with divine awe; others assimilate themselves to the holy symbols, leave

their own identity, become at home with the gods, and experience divine

possession.'[36] "

 

The Jesus Mysteries

Was the Original Jesus A Pagan God?

Chapter 2 - p.24-25

Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

Element (imprint of HarperCollins'Publishers')

77-85 Fulham Palace Road

Hammersmith, London W6 8JB

ISBN-13 978-0-7225-3677-3

ISBN-10 0-7225-3677-1

 

Notes:

 

[34] A term meaning purification. Aristotle, in 'Poetics', states that

tragedy should result in a purging (catharsis) of the emotions by pity

and terror. The Mysteries too were meant to be a catharsis.

Empedocles' poem 'Catharmoi', of which a few intriguing fragments

remain, is believed to have been a liturgy of initiation.

 

[35] Angus, op.cit., 93, quoting Synesius on Aristotle. Aristotle

writes that initiates of the Mysteries were not expected to learn

something ('mathein'), but to suffer something ('pathein').

 

[36] Quoted in Burkert, W. (1992), 11

 

Here is Part 3.

 

violet

 

 

 

What are the 'Mysteries'? - Part 3

 

(P.25) Why did the myth enacted by the Mysteries have such a profound effect?

 

Encoded Secret Teachings

 

In antiquity the word 'mythos' did not mean something 'untrue', as it does for

us today. Superficially a myth was an entertaining story, but to the initiated

it was a sacred code that contained profound spiritual teachings.[37] Plato

comments, 'It looks as if those also who established rites of initiation for us

were no fools, but that there is a hidden meaning in their teachings.'[38] He

explains that it is 'those who have given their lives to true philosophy' who

will grasp the 'hidden meaning' encoded in the Mystery myths, and so become

completely identified with the godman in an experience of mystical

enlightenment.[39]

 

The ancient philosophers were not so foolish as to believe that the Mystery

myths were literally true, but wise enough to recognize that they were an easy

introduction to the profound mystical philosophy at the heart of the Mysteries.

Sallustius writes:

 

(P.26) 'To wish to teach all men the truth of the gods causes the foolish to

despise, because they cannot learn, and the good to be slothful, whereas to

conceal the truth by myths prevents the former from despising philosophy and

compels the latter to study it.' [40]

 

It was the role of the priests and philosophers of the Mysteries to decode the

hidden depths of spiritual meaning contained within the Mystery myths.

Heliodorus, a priest of the Mysteries, explains:

 

'Philosophers and theologians do not disclose the meanings embedded in these

stories to laymen but simply give them preliminary instruction in the form of a

myth. But those who have reached the higher grades of the Mysteries they

initiate into clear knowledge in the privacy of the holy shrine, in the light

cast by the blazing torch of truth.'[41]

 

The Mysteries were divided into various levels of initiation, which led an

initiate step by step through ever deepening levels of understanding. The number

of levels of initiation varied in different Mystery traditions, but essentially

the initiate was led from the Outer Mysteries, in which the myths were

understood superficially as religious stories, to the Inner Mysteries, in which

the myths were revealed as spiritual allegories. First the initiate was ritually

purified. Then they were taught the secret teachings on a one-to-one basis.[42]

The highest stage was when the initiate understood the true meaning of the

teachings and finally experienced what Theon of Smyrna calls 'friendship and

interior communion with God'.

 

The Jesus Mysteries

Was the Original Jesus A Pagan God?

Chapter 2 - p.25-26

Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

Element (imprint of HarperCollins'Publishers')

77-85 Fulham Palace Road

Hammersmith, London W6 8JB

ISBN-13 978-0-7225-3677-3

ISBN-10 0-7225-3677-1

 

Notes:

 

[37] Fidler, D. (1993), 6: 'The teachings of the mystery religions were

characteristically embodied in allegory, myth, and symbolic imagery, both as

" teaching stories " and as basic paradigms of human experience. Certain

philosophical schools, especially the Stoics and Platonists, drew upon

traditional myths to illustrate insights which transcend merely logical

description. Moreover, they held that the interpretation of the traditional

myths, like the pursuit of philosophy itself, constituted, at its core, a

process of initiation.'

 

[38] Plato, 'Phaedo', 69c

 

[39] Ibid., 69d: 'As those who understand the mysteries say, " There are many who

bear the wand, but few who become Bacchoi. " ' Becoming one with the godman was

the goal of the Mysteries.

 

[40] Quoted in Fidler, op.cit., 23. Sallustius also writes: 'The universe itself

can be called a myth, since bodies and material objects are apparent in it,

while souls and intellects are concealed,' see Ehrenberg, V. (1968), 5.

 

[41] Heliodorus, 'An Ethiopian Story', 9.9, quoted in Fidler, op.cit., 322, note

46

 

[42] Kingsley, P. (1995), 367. A beginner was called a 'mystae', which means

'eyes closed' and is the root of our words 'mystery' and 'mysticism'. The

'mystae' were those who had not yet understood the secret Inner Mysteries. The

higher level of initiates were called 'epoptae', meaning 'to have seen'. The

'epoptae' were those who had understood the Inner Mysteries.

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wrote:

 

> (P.25)The ancient philosophers were not so foolish as to believe

> that the Mystery myths were literally true, but wise enough

> to recognize that they were an easy introduction to the

> profound mystical philosophy at the heart of the Mysteries.

 

> The Jesus Mysteries

> Was the Original Jesus A Pagan God?

> Chapter 2 - p.25

> Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

> Element (imprint of HarperCollins'Publishers')

> 77-85 Fulham Palace Road

> Hammersmith, London W6 8JB

> ISBN-13 978-0-7225-3677-3

> ISBN-10 0-7225-3677-1

 

 

Dear All,

 

Yet perhaps, unknown to the ancient philosophers, in the Spirit World

in the Kingdom of God the mythologies do come true. It would seem that these

mythologies give a deeper spiritual truth of the 'Divine within' that has to be

individually realized - and in the Spirit World these mythologies can be

witnessed, according to the knowledge that Kash and his siblings have given

evidence of. Therefore, this knowledge is not only important evidence to confirm

Shri Mataji's incarnation, but it is also knowledge that perhaps the ancient

philosophers did not know, about the Spirit World and the Kingdom of God:

 

" This overriding unity of all messengers of various religions as One was

consistently witnessed by Kash throughout all his journeys into the Kingdom of

God. It was for this reason that on December 31, 1993, his father requested him

to wish Shri Mataji and all the Messengers of God Almighty a " Happy New Year " .

 

This young child had been meditating for nearly two months and daily provided

his father with unassailable evidence that whatever he was witnessing in the

Kingdom of God within was not a figment of his imagination, but a Reality

greater than that of this earthly existence. And he (together with his brother

Arwinder and sister Lalita) always maintained that all the Messengers of

Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Sikhism and others were living in

perfect harmony in the Spirit World. "

 

http://adishakti.org/meeting_his_messengers.htm

 

violet

 

 

 

> Dear All,

>

> We concluded Part 2 with the following:

>

> (P.24) " By witnessing the awesome tragedy of Dionysus, the initiates

at Eleusis shared in his suffering, death and resurrection, and so

experienced a spiritual purification known as 'catharsis'.[34]

>

> (P.25) The Mysteries did not offer religious dogmas to simply be

believed, but a myth to be entered into. Initiation was not about

learning something, but about experiencing an altered state of

awareness. Plutarch, a Pagan high priest, confesses that those who had

been initiated could produce no proof of the beliefs that they

acquired. Aristotle maintains, 'It is not necessary for the initiated

to learn anything, but to receive impressions and to be put in a

certain frame of mind.'[35] The philosopher Proclus talks of the

Mysteries as evoking a 'sympathy of the soul with the ritual in a way

that is unintelligible to us and divine, so that some of the initiates

are stricken with panic, being filled with divine awe; others

assimilate themselves to the holy symbols, leave their own identity,

become at home with the gods, and experience divine possession.'[36] "

>

> The Jesus Mysteries

> Was the Original Jesus A Pagan God?

> Chapter 2 - p.24-25

> Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

> Element (imprint of HarperCollins'Publishers')

> 77-85 Fulham Palace Road

> Hammersmith, London W6 8JB

> ISBN-13 978-0-7225-3677-3

> ISBN-10 0-7225-3677-1

>

> Notes:

>

> [34] A term meaning purification. Aristotle, in 'Poetics', states that

> tragedy should result in a purging (catharsis) of the emotions by pity

> and terror. The Mysteries too were meant to be a catharsis.

> Empedocles' poem 'Catharmoi', of which a few intriguing fragments

> remain, is believed to have been a liturgy of initiation.

>

> [35] Angus, op.cit., 93, quoting Synesius on Aristotle. Aristotle

> writes that initiates of the Mysteries were not expected to learn

> something ('mathein'), but to suffer something ('pathein').

>

> [36] Quoted in Burkert, W. (1992), 11

>

> Here is Part 3.

>

> violet

>

>

>

> What are the 'Mysteries'? - Part 3

>

> (P.25) Why did the myth enacted by the Mysteries have such a

profound effect?

>

> Encoded Secret Teachings

>

> In antiquity the word 'mythos' did not mean something 'untrue', as

it does for us today. Superficially a myth was an entertaining story,

but to the initiated it was a sacred code that contained profound

spiritual teachings.[37] Plato comments, 'It looks as if those also

who established rites of initiation for us were no fools, but that

there is a hidden meaning in their teachings.'[38] He explains that it

is 'those who have given their lives to true philosophy' who will

grasp the 'hidden meaning' encoded in the Mystery myths, and so become

completely identified with the godman in an experience of mystical

enlightenment.[39]

>

> The ancient philosophers were not so foolish as to believe that the

Mystery myths were literally true, but wise enough to recognize that

they were an easy introduction to the profound mystical philosophy at

the heart of the Mysteries. Sallustius writes:

>

> (P.26) 'To wish to teach all men the truth of the gods causes the

foolish to despise, because they cannot learn, and the good to be

slothful, whereas to conceal the truth by myths prevents the former

from despising philosophy and compels the latter to study it.' [40]

>

> It was the role of the priests and philosophers of the Mysteries to

decode the hidden depths of spiritual meaning contained within the

Mystery myths. Heliodorus, a priest of the Mysteries, explains:

>

> 'Philosophers and theologians do not disclose the meanings embedded

in these stories to laymen but simply give them preliminary

instruction in the form of a myth. But those who have reached the

higher grades of the Mysteries they initiate into clear knowledge in

the privacy of the holy shrine, in the light cast by the blazing torch

of truth.'[41]

>

> The Mysteries were divided into various levels of initiation, which

led an initiate step by step through ever deepening levels of

understanding. The number of levels of initiation varied in different

Mystery traditions, but essentially the initiate was led from the

Outer Mysteries, in which the myths were understood superficially as

religious stories, to the Inner Mysteries, in which the myths were

revealed as spiritual allegories. First the initiate was ritually

purified. Then they were taught the secret teachings on a one-to-one

basis.[42] The highest stage was when the initiate understood the true

meaning of the teachings and finally experienced what Theon of Smyrna

calls 'friendship and interior communion with God'.

>

> The Jesus Mysteries

> Was the Original Jesus A Pagan God?

> Chapter 2 - p.25-26

> Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy

> Element (imprint of HarperCollins'Publishers')

> 77-85 Fulham Palace Road

> Hammersmith, London W6 8JB

> ISBN-13 978-0-7225-3677-3

> ISBN-10 0-7225-3677-1

>

> Notes:

>

> [37] Fidler, D. (1993), 6: 'The teachings of the mystery religions

were characteristically embodied in allegory, myth, and symbolic

imagery, both as " teaching stories " and as basic paradigms of human

experience. Certain philosophical schools, especially the Stoics and

Platonists, drew upon traditional myths to illustrate insights which

transcend merely logical description. Moreover, they held that the

interpretation of the traditional myths, like the pursuit of

philosophy itself, constituted, at its core, a process of initiation.'

>

> [38] Plato, 'Phaedo', 69c

>

> [39] Ibid., 69d: 'As those who understand the mysteries say, " There

are many who bear the wand, but few who become Bacchoi. " ' Becoming one

with the godman was the goal of the Mysteries.

>

> [40] Quoted in Fidler, op.cit., 23. Sallustius also writes: 'The

universe itself can be called a myth, since bodies and material

objects are apparent in it, while souls and intellects are concealed,'

see Ehrenberg, V. (1968), 5.

>

> [41] Heliodorus, 'An Ethiopian Story', 9.9, quoted in Fidler,

op.cit., 322, note 46

>

> [42] Kingsley, P. (1995), 367. A beginner was called a 'mystae',

which means 'eyes closed' and is the root of our words 'mystery' and

'mysticism'. The 'mystae' were those who had not yet understood the

secret Inner Mysteries. The higher level of initiates were called

'epoptae', meaning 'to have seen'. The 'epoptae' were those who had

understood the Inner Mysteries.

>

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