Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hi Pallawi, Welcome back to the forum. i can answer your question: i) yes, we are well aware of that link " Reality Test for Sahaja Yogis by Simon " . You should realize that it was uploaded 14 September 1999, before www.adishakti.org came online on 1-1-2000; " This site is thus also an open book and challenge to all guardians of religious regimes — priests, pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs, shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins, acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas — to rebut and prove Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Divine Message false. Skeptics, atheists or any anti-cult organization, especially those specializing in busting fake gurus and false claims, are most welcome. " So far there have been no takers! The offficial SY website http://sahajayoga.org need not carry this challenge because it is only about a Hindu guru teaching about Self-realization. Many of those who joined in the 1980s/90s, and later realized Shri Mataji was claiming Herself to be the Adi Shakti etc., left and a few began to attack it. This snapshot of UK SY figures of the early 2000s cannot be applied for 2008 as the numbers have further dwindled. (Even Shri Mataji has lamented on this sustained decline as UK is the bastion where She began preaching Her message to humanity.) " I recently saw something about the figures of people in SY in the UK, something like 500, I must say this figure is probably correct which if so is very low, most of these are also London based the biggest meeting place at least in the UK, it is also apparent that there are large gaps in the domestic area,some areas have only a handful of followers others have none at all, the point is there has been very little if any change in dedicated followers over the past few years despite what they are saying. As far as recruitment goes then it is at a all time low ebb,follow ups from the last Albert Hall meeting were very poor as well and these meetings dis-jointed,a high percentage of people leave after only a few meetings,either bored with it or not the social activity they first imagined,so I feel that yes it is clinging on to past figures,they just press on regardless recruiting people if they can,but alas not very successfully,given also the amount of people who after quite a long time in it are also seeing the real truth behind it and leaving. " Barry Clay, UK, Sat Oct 11, 2003 ii) Simon has resigned from attacking Shri Mataji effective Jun 19, 2008. " I'm 43 in a couple of days I was in SY for 6 years, had 7 off and then exposed it for 11, most recently on Wikipedia But enough's enough, so I'm disengaging now. any friendly folks are free to contact me, from whatever side of the 'great divide' I hope you all find what you're looking for. Best, Simon Dicon " talk-about-sahaja-yoga/message/15918 i know that this forum/websites were instrumental in ending Simon's hostilities, just as it has been for other anti-SYs. i don't blame them for attacking the SY organization because i too do so for its false front that misleads humanity and keeps them from participating in the promised Last Judgment and Resurrection. i sometimes even see the anti-SY websites in a positive light as they kept the SY organization, specifically with the birth of the internet, almost non-existent i.e., in a survival mode. People nowadays can quickly determine, albeit wrongly, from official SY sites that it is only a subtle system organization run by a Hindu guru. The same goes for Sahaja Yoga's ever dwindling, almost empty and boring subtle system/kundalini/chakra meditation classes. Given the meagre past advances, present stagnation and obvious future demise of SY, we have a great opportunity to easily overcome this dishonest organization and spread the advent and message of Shri Mataji in its entirety. It would have been much more difficult if the SY organization had, say, 5-10 million members ...... and growing. Now it is less than 100,000 members ...... and stagnant/shrinking. Only the truth will ensure its survival, and that truth is being ever- increasingly revaled at these sites: www.adi-shakti.org/ — Divine Feminine (Hinduism) www.holyspirit-shekinah.org/ — Divine Feminine (Christianity) www.ruach-elohim.org/ — Divine Feminine (Judaism) www.ruh-allah.org/ — Divine Feminine (Islam) www.tao-mother.org/ — Divine Feminine (Taoism) www.prajnaaparamita.org/ — Divine Feminine (Buddhism) www.aykaa-mayee.org/ — Divine Feminine (Sikhism) www.great-spirit-mother.org/ — Divine Feminine (Native Traditions) As i keep saying, time is on Her side and ours too. All we need is to be patient and wait. Reality test for SY is meagre past advances, present stagnation and obvious future demise. The physical Shri Mataji has said farewell, and we have all the knowledge, evidence, revelations and faith to welcome the eternal Divine Feminine within. However, Shri Mataji did say She will establish Sahaja Yoga before She leaves. She never meant " Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion'. regards, jagbir , pallawi <pallawip wrote: > > Hi, >       I have been away from this forum for a quite long time and therefore I don't know if you people have come across thing like this before. >  > Just browsing the web I came across this- http://www.kheper.net/topics/gurus/sahaja-test.html >  > I look forward for all your comments. >  > jsm >  > regs > Pallawi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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