Why did 'WCASY' want to depose Jay Chudasama even a decade ago?

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

 

> And the name of the Canadian leader, Jay Chudasama, is missing as it

> has always been from WCASY .... perhaps the culmination of the

> decade-old power struggle to dispose him.

> i did witness attempts to remove him since the mid-1990s but Shri

> Mataji squashed all dissent. i was there at Pearson Airport,

> Toronto 1995 when a letter against him was handed to Her. Shri

> Mataji told the messenger, who had begun publicly

> denouncing him, that either she stop or immediately leave Sahaja

> Yoga. i know the people hiding behind this unsuccessful coup who

> had made her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot.

 

Jagbir, do you have any idea why 'WCASY' (not called by that name back then)

wanted to depose Jay Chudasama from his position even as early as 1995? You say

that they wanted to depose Jay Chudasama but couldn't because Shri Mataji was

dead against it, so much so that She said that they better stop their nonsense,

or leave Sahaja Yoga! Jagbir, you say you " know the people hiding behind [that]

unsuccessful coup who had made her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot " . Well, if

they could make her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot back in 1995, that same

lack of conscience can also allow them to make her an unsuspecting pawn

thereafter. Is that not correct, Jagbir?

 

 

 

 

> But today they have succeeded, and if i am not mistaken, the email

> probably betrays this decade-old power struggle. And it is Patrick

> Lantoin who heads the Canadian Council. It was because of him that i

> had to leave the collective, the straw that broke the camel's back.

> That happened in 2000 when i emailed the Montreal collective that we

> should not be afraid to talk about and declare the Last Judgment and

> Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah), as even Muslims are unable to protest/

> reject the www.al-qiyamah.org site. Patrick Lantoin was the only

> person to respond, and literally told me that i was being meted

> just punishment from the Divine for what i was doing. It was a

> letter that shocked me. i vowed never to return till SYs begin

> declaring the Advent and Message of Shri Mataji in all its

> entirety, without any restrictions/editing whatsoever.

 

Jagbir, from what you are saying my understanding is that Patrick Lantoin has

basically taken over the position of Jay Chudasama in the Canadian Council.

Given that Patrick responded to you in so negative a manner in 2000, it is

certainly understandable why you would have grave misgivings about him. i wonder

if Shri Mataji knows that Patrick Lantoin demonized you in an email. In other

words, i wonder if She knows that this member of the Canadian Council that She

supposedly approved (with a handwriting that doesn't look like Her old

handwriting) demonized the person responsible for getting out Her mystical

evidence to confirm Her Incarnation? i guess even if She did realize it, what

can She do about it? i have noticed that She does not use the tactics of control

that WCASY use. i think maybe She has to allow all these people to make their

mistakes, and learn from them. Maybe, She can't interfere with their karma,

individually and collectively, up to a point. Could you possibly enlighten us

further on this subject, Jagbir. i am sure you must have contemplated it, over

the years, that why doesn't Shri Mataji now, even at this time, tell everyone

that they must stop demonizing the family that provided the mystical evidence to

confirm Her Incarnation?

 

Or, does She want these two to be separate in any case? Was that the Divine's

Will all along? After all, i recall Her saying at Sydney Airport, in 1994, that

" separate " evidence " from outside " the organisation of Sahaja Yoga would be

given. Now, interestingly, you had tried to be a part of the organisation of

Sahaja Yoga, but it did not work out. The priests in Sahaja Yoga pushed you out,

organising the Sahaja Yogis as a Weapon of Mass Silence against you. It seems

you were therefore fated, in any case, to be working for/with the Divine from

" outside " the organisation of Sahaja Yoga! People would have to be blind to

history, not to see that the priests and mystics have never jelled, with the

priestly class perennially demonizing the mystics, and even having them killed,

and then thinking it is divine justice. Priestly Patrick Lantoin called his

words and organised Weapon of Mass Silence of Sahaja Yogis against you as

'Divine Justice' ------ when it was not from the Divine at all, but from the

priestly class who have the presumption to then blame it on the Divine, which is

so hypocritical and unconscionable of them; that they can't even accept the

responsibility for their own actions, but must blame it on the Divine! In other

words, they haven't changed one bit from Christ's time on earth!

 

 

 

 

> After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from

> Shri Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell

> speech. They think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task

> of emancipating humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete

> control of the reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with

> immediate effect. There is now no place for the difficulties of

> pesky pests they have faced in the past, pests who are now firmly

> squashed and buried in the pages of history. It is obvious that

> that must have been a huge relief.

>

> With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The

> Kingdom Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian

> SYs towards fellow human beings have faded. This collective,

> deliberate dishonesty is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all

> countries practising the official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack

> of consciousness of a crime against humanity that continues to

> baffle me. How can Self-realized souls have no such conscience?

> What has collectively overcome them? Why is there no end to such

> blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

>

> So how can we make sense of all this?

 

Jagbir, the Sahaja Yogis had a conscience, but it has been hijacked by the

priestly class, who have organised them into a Weapon of Mass Silence of Sahaja

Yogis against you, and most yogis now dare not speak out, from that deliberate

organisation. The priestly class just cannot accept anything they have no

control over, even though Shri Mataji approved of it. Obviously, the mystics and

the priestly class can never work together happily, because the mystics will

never accept external control because it goes against their very nature. The

All-Knowing, All-Seeing Divine must have known that, and therefore arranged for

the mystical evidence that would confirm Shri Mataji's incarnation, to be given

from outside the organisation of Sahaja Yoga. That being the case, we can put

our hearts and minds at rest. Not only that, but now Shri Mataji has given

permission for all of us Sahaja Yogis to form our own organisations. So the

mystics are free at last, both internally and externally!

 

Jai Shri Mataji!

 

violet

 

 

 

 

> i have to break this Silence to expose " The priests of this

SYSSReligion who have edited the teachings of its founder "

>

> >

> > The priests of this religion recited the teachings of its founder

> > in a language common people could not understand. This was useful

> > in preventing Europe's beleagured peasants from learning enough

> > about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders, both

> > political and spiritual, were disregarding Christ's actual

> > teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> > present day, as politicians posing as Christians self-righteously

> > press on the American public an agenda which is in almost every

> > detail the opposite of Jesus'.

> >

> > The worst tragedy of Europe's Dark Age of Christianity was not only

> > that thinking was no longer allowed (questioning the church was a

> > capital offense), but that direct personal exploration of mystical

> > states was strictly forbidden.

> >

> > The Living Goddess:

> > Reclaiming the Tradition of the Mother of the Universe

> >

> > By Consul B. John Zavrel

> >

>

> theworldcouncil@ sahajayoga. org; lant_pc (AT) hotmail (DOT) com;

> amorrissey (AT) telus (DOT) net

> Fwd: Letter from H.H. Shri Mataji to Canadian Council

> Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:32:43 -0400

> dunphitect (AT) aol (DOT) com

>

> Dear Brothers and Sisters:

>

> I am very pleased to inform you all that according to the attached

> letter from Cabella, Our Holy Mother has nominated the attached

> reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect. May

> this mark a new chapter in the growth and expansion of Sahaja Yoga in

> Canada and place the difficulties they have faced in the past firmly

> in the pages of history. Sandeep and I stand ready to assist the new

> CNC in getting up and running and establishing a positive and

> collaborative relationship with the members of the wider collective.

>

> We extend our deepest thanks and gratitude to Shri Mataji for placing

> Her divine attention on Canada and guiding us all through this

> delicate process. It is only through Her blessings that Canada can

> now realize its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part

> of North America.

>

> On behalf of the World Council, I would like to offer our heartiest

> congratulations to Patrick and Alan and wish them all the best in

> their efforts in manifesting Shri Matajis vision.

>

> JAI SHRI MATAJI!

>

> With All Love and Respect:

>

> Dave Dunphy

> Sandeep Gadkary

>

>

> -------------------------------

>

> Note: This is the strangest signature of Shri Mataji i have seen, not

> that i am disputing it.

>

> http://adishakti.org/images/letter_to_canada_20081015.jpg

>

> If you enlarge and examine the signature, all you see are strange

> lines (as if the person is drugged/drowsy and quite incapacitated.

> How else can we interpret this 'signature' as we know She have been

> repeatedly medicated with powerful psychotic drugs like Risperidone

> against Her written instruction? Click on link below and see 10th.

> December 1998 letter to compare both signatures).

>

> http://adishakti.org/images/to_whomsoever_it_may_concern.jpg

>

> You can see that " Nirmala Srivastava " is clear and legible here, but

> not in the recent 15 October 2008 letter. What is the cause of such a

> drastic change? We must never ever forget that most infamous,

> nefarious and blasphemous claim by WCASY that they represent Her Will.

>

> And the name of the Canadian leader, Jay Chudasama, is missing as it

> has always been from WCASY .... perhaps the culmination of the decade-

> old power struggle to dispose him. i did witness attempts to remove

> him since the mid-1990s but Shri Mataji squashed all dissent. i was

> there at Pearson Airport, Toronto 1995 when a letter against him was

> handed to Her. Shri Mataji told the messenger, who had begun publicly

> denouncing him, that either she stop or immediately leave Sahaja Yoga.

> i know the people hiding behind this unsuccessful coup who had made

> her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot.

>

> But today they have succeeded, and if i am not mistaken, the email

> probably betrays this decade-old power struggle. And it is Patrick

> Lantoin who heads the Canadian Council. It was because of him that i

> had to leave the collective, the straw that broke the camel's back.

> That happened in 2000 when i emailed the Montreal collective that we

> should not be afraid to talk about and declare the Last Judgment and

> Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah), as even Muslims are unable to protest/

> reject the www.al-qiyamah.org site.

>

> Patrick Lantoin was the only person to respond, and literally told me

> that i was being meted just punishment from the Divine for what i was

> doing. It was a letter that shocked me. i vowed never to return till

> SYs begin declaring the Advent and Message of Shri Mataji in all its

> entirety, without any restrictions/editing whatsoever.

>

> After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from Shri

> Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell speech. They

> think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task of emancipating

> humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete control of the

> reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect. There

> is now no place for the difficulties of pesky pests they have faced in

> the past, pests who are now firmly squashed and buried in the pages

> of history. It is obvious that that must have been a huge relief.

>

> With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom

> Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian SYs towards

> fellow human beings have faded. This collective, deliberate dishonesty

> is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all countries practising the

> official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack of consciousness of a crime

> against humanity that continues to baffle me. How can Self-realized

> souls have no such conscience? What has collectively overcome them?

> Why is there no end to such blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

>

> So how can we make sense of all this?

>

> The priests of this SYSSReligion have edited the teachings of its

> founder into the subtle system, a language common people cannot

> understand. This is useful in preventing humanity from learning

> enough about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders,

> both political and spiritual, are disregarding Christ's actual

> teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> present day as SY politicians posing as Shri Mataji's hand-picked,

> self-righteously press on the unsuspecting public an agenda which is

> in almost every detail the opposite of Jesus'.

>

> The worst tragedy of this Dark Age of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> Religion is not only that thinking is no longer allowed (questioning

> the SY Church is an excommunicable offense), but that direct personal

> exploration of mystical states is strictly forbidden and regarded as

> the work of Evil.

>

> It is on these grounds that the SY Church is being built, as was its

> origins centuries ago. Associate with it at your own peril.

>

> regards to all,

>

>

> jagbir

>

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

 

> And the name of the Canadian leader, Jay Chudasama, is missing as it

> has always been from WCASY .... perhaps the culmination of the

> decade-old power struggle to dispose him.

> i did witness attempts to remove him since the mid-1990s but Shri

> Mataji squashed all dissent. i was there at Pearson Airport,

> Toronto 1995 when a letter against him was handed to Her. Shri

> Mataji told the messenger, who had begun publicly

> denouncing him, that either she stop or immediately leave Sahaja

> Yoga. i know the people hiding behind this unsuccessful coup who

> had made her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot.

 

Jagbir, do you have any idea why 'WCASY' (not called by that name

back then) wanted to depose Jay Chudasama from his position even as

early as 1995? You say that they wanted to depose Jay Chudasama but

couldn't because Shri Mataji was dead against it, so much so that She

said that they better stop their nonsense, or leave Sahaja Yoga!

Jagbir, you say you " know the people hiding behind [that]

unsuccessful coup who had made her an unsuspecting pawn in their

plot " . Well, if they could make her an unsuspecting pawn in their

plot back in 1995, that same lack of conscience can also allow them

to make her an unsuspecting pawn thereafter. Is that not correct,

Jagbir?

 

A: Certain SYs believed that Jay Chudasama was not fit to be a leader.

i believe that it finally culminated in this Patrick Lantoin coup, as

he is from the Yogi Mahajan clan. Birds of such feathers have always

flocked together on top of the ivory tower HQ of Sahaja Yoga. PL is

of the same opinion as YM about children entering the Sahasarara and

meeting the Devi i.e., they have to be possessed to claim so ......

and i am being punished by the Divine for writing about the Divine.

 

> But today they have succeeded, and if i am not mistaken, the email

> probably betrays this decade-old power struggle. And it is Patrick

> Lantoin who heads the Canadian Council. It was because of him that i

> had to leave the collective, the straw that broke the camel's back.

> That happened in 2000 when i emailed the Montreal collective that we

> should not be afraid to talk about and declare the Last Judgment and

> Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah), as even Muslims are unable to protest/

> reject the www.al-qiyamah.org site. Patrick Lantoin was the only

> person to respond, and literally told me that i was being meted

> just punishment from the Divine for what i was doing. It was a

> letter that shocked me. i vowed never to return till SYs begin

> declaring the Advent and Message of Shri Mataji in all its

> entirety, without any restrictions/editing whatsoever.

 

Jagbir, from what you are saying my understanding is that Patrick

Lantoin has basically taken over the position of Jay Chudasama in the

Canadian Council. Given that Patrick responded to you in so negative

a manner in 2000, it is certainly understandable why you would have

grave misgivings about him. i wonder if Shri Mataji knows that

Patrick Lantoin demonized you in an email. In other words, i wonder

if She knows that this member of the Canadian Council that She

supposedly approved (with a handwriting that doesn't look like Her old

handwriting) demonized the person responsible for getting out Her

mystical evidence to confirm Her Incarnation? i guess even if She did

realize it, what can She do about it? i have noticed that She does

not use the tactics of control that WCASY use. i think maybe She has

to allow all these people to make their mistakes, and learn from

them. Maybe, She can't interfere with their karma, individually and

collectively, up to a point. Could you possibly enlighten us

further on this subject, Jagbir. i am sure you must have contemplated

it, over the years, that why doesn't Shri Mataji now, even at this

time, tell everyone that they must stop demonizing the family that

provided the mystical evidence to confirm Her Incarnation?

 

A: Shri Mataji does not know what Patrick Lantoin (or other humans)

did but the Divine Mother does. That is why Shri Mataji now, even at

this time, cannot tell everyone that they must stop demonizing the

family that provided the mystical evidence to confirm Her Incarnation.

 

Or, does She want these two to be separate in any case? Was that the

Divine's Will all along? After all, i recall Her saying at Sydney

Airport, in 1994, that " separate " evidence " from outside " the

organisation of Sahaja Yoga would be given. Now, interestingly, you

had tried to be a part of the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, but it did

not work out. The priests in Sahaja Yoga pushed you out, organising

the Sahaja Yogis as a Weapon of Mass Silence against you. It seems

you were therefore fated, in any case, to be working for/with the

Divine from " outside " the organisation of Sahaja Yoga! People would

have to be blind to history, not to see that the priests and mystics

have never jelled, with the priestly class perennially demonizing the

mystics, and even having them killed, and then thinking it is divine

justice. Priestly Patrick Lantoin called his words and organised

Weapon of Mass Silence of Sahaja Yogis against you as 'Divine

Justice' ------ when it was not from the Divine at all, but from the

priestly class who have the presumption to then blame it on the

Divine, which is so hypocritical and unconscionable of them; that

they can't even accept the responsibility for their own actions, but

must blame it on the Divine! In other words, they haven't changed one

bit from Christ's time on earth!

 

A: i believe we are against the same forces of the past i.e., the

priestly class who have perennially demonized the mystics. Since the

priestly class are now in full control of the Sahaja Yoga organization

it has come full circle, and the fight to the finish begins. This

time they will not succeed and the WCASY camels and offsprings like

Patrick Lantoin, John Noyce and others will all die of thirst .......

the thirst of truth.

 

 

> After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from

> Shri Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell

> speech. They think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task

> of emancipating humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete

> control of the reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with

> immediate effect. There is now no place for the difficulties of

> pesky pests they have faced in the past, pests who are now firmly

> squashed and buried in the pages of history. It is obvious that

> that must have been a huge relief.

>

> With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The

> Kingdom Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian

> SYs towards fellow human beings have faded. This collective,

> deliberate dishonesty is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all

> countries practising the official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack

> of consciousness of a crime against humanity that continues to

> baffle me. How can Self-realized souls have no such conscience?

> What has collectively overcome them? Why is there no end to such

> blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

>

> So how can we make sense of all this?

 

Jagbir, the Sahaja Yogis had a conscience, but it has been hijacked

by the priestly class, who have organised them into a Weapon of Mass

Silence of Sahaja Yogis against you, and most yogis now dare not

speak out, from that deliberate organisation. The priestly class just

cannot accept anything they have no control over, even though Shri

Mataji approved of it. Obviously, the mystics and the priestly class

can never work together happily, because the mystics will

never accept external control because it goes against their very

nature. The All-Knowing, All-Seeing Divine must have known that, and

therefore arranged for the mystical evidence that would confirm Shri

Mataji's incarnation, to be given from outside the organisation of

Sahaja Yoga. That being the case, we can put our hearts and minds at

rest. Not only that, but now Shri Mataji has given permission for all

of us Sahaja Yogis to form our own organisations. So the mystics are

free at last, both internally and externally!

 

Jai Shri Mataji!

 

violet

 

A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

together because of the following reasons:

 

i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

the mystics want freedom for the masses;

ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

external organization;

iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and message,

but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of self-realized

souls, while mystics are those who make such fools realize their Self.

 

regards,

 

jagbir

 

 

> i have to break this Silence to expose " The priests of this

SYSSReligion who have edited the teachings of its founder "

>

> >

> > The priests of this religion recited the teachings of its founder

> > in a language common people could not understand. This was useful

> > in preventing Europe's beleagured peasants from learning enough

> > about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders, both

> > political and spiritual, were disregarding Christ's actual

> > teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> > present day, as politicians posing as Christians self-righteously

> > press on the American public an agenda which is in almost every

> > detail the opposite of Jesus'.

> >

> > The worst tragedy of Europe's Dark Age of Christianity was not

only

> > that thinking was no longer allowed (questioning the church was a

> > capital offense), but that direct personal exploration of mystical

> > states was strictly forbidden.

> >

> > The Living Goddess:

> > Reclaiming the Tradition of the Mother of the Universe

> >

> > By Consul B. John Zavrel

> >

>

> theworldcouncil@ sahajayoga. org; lant_pc (AT) hotmail (DOT) com;

> amorrissey (AT) telus (DOT) net

> Fwd: Letter from H.H. Shri Mataji to Canadian Council

> Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:32:43 -0400

> dunphitect (AT) aol (DOT) com

>

> Dear Brothers and Sisters:

>

> I am very pleased to inform you all that according to the attached

> letter from Cabella, Our Holy Mother has nominated the attached

> reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect. May

> this mark a new chapter in the growth and expansion of Sahaja Yoga

in

> Canada and place the difficulties they have faced in the past firmly

> in the pages of history. Sandeep and I stand ready to assist the new

> CNC in getting up and running and establishing a positive and

> collaborative relationship with the members of the wider collective.

>

> We extend our deepest thanks and gratitude to Shri Mataji for

placing

> Her divine attention on Canada and guiding us all through this

> delicate process. It is only through Her blessings that Canada can

> now realize its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part

> of North America.

>

> On behalf of the World Council, I would like to offer our heartiest

> congratulations to Patrick and Alan and wish them all the best in

> their efforts in manifesting Shri Matajis vision.

>

> JAI SHRI MATAJI!

>

> With All Love and Respect:

>

> Dave Dunphy

> Sandeep Gadkary

>

>

> -------------------------------

>

> Note: This is the strangest signature of Shri Mataji i have seen,

not

> that i am disputing it.

>

> http://adishakti.org/images/letter_to_canada_20081015.jpg

>

> If you enlarge and examine the signature, all you see are strange

> lines (as if the person is drugged/drowsy and quite incapacitated.

> How else can we interpret this 'signature' as we know She have been

> repeatedly medicated with powerful psychotic drugs like Risperidone

> against Her written instruction? Click on link below and see 10th.

> December 1998 letter to compare both signatures).

>

> http://adishakti.org/images/to_whomsoever_it_may_concern.jpg

>

> You can see that " Nirmala Srivastava " is clear and legible here, but

> not in the recent 15 October 2008 letter. What is the cause of such

a

> drastic change? We must never ever forget that most infamous,

> nefarious and blasphemous claim by WCASY that they represent Her

Will.

>

> And the name of the Canadian leader, Jay Chudasama, is missing as it

> has always been from WCASY .... perhaps the culmination of the

decade-

> old power struggle to dispose him. i did witness attempts to remove

> him since the mid-1990s but Shri Mataji squashed all dissent. i was

> there at Pearson Airport, Toronto 1995 when a letter against him was

> handed to Her. Shri Mataji told the messenger, who had begun

publicly

> denouncing him, that either she stop or immediately leave Sahaja

Yoga.

> i know the people hiding behind this unsuccessful coup who had made

> her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot.

>

> But today they have succeeded, and if i am not mistaken, the email

> probably betrays this decade-old power struggle. And it is Patrick

> Lantoin who heads the Canadian Council. It was because of him that i

> had to leave the collective, the straw that broke the camel's back.

> That happened in 2000 when i emailed the Montreal collective that we

> should not be afraid to talk about and declare the Last Judgment and

> Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah), as even Muslims are unable to protest/

> reject the www.al-qiyamah.org site.

>

> Patrick Lantoin was the only person to respond, and literally told

me

> that i was being meted just punishment from the Divine for what i

was

> doing. It was a letter that shocked me. i vowed never to return till

> SYs begin declaring the Advent and Message of Shri Mataji in all its

> entirety, without any restrictions/editing whatsoever.

>

> After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from

Shri

> Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell speech.

They

> think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task of emancipating

> humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete control of the

> reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect.

There

> is now no place for the difficulties of pesky pests they have faced

in

> the past, pests who are now firmly squashed and buried in the pages

> of history. It is obvious that that must have been a huge relief.

>

> With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The

Kingdom

> Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian SYs

towards

> fellow human beings have faded. This collective, deliberate

dishonesty

> is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all countries practising the

> official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack of consciousness of a

crime

> against humanity that continues to baffle me. How can Self-realized

> souls have no such conscience? What has collectively overcome them?

> Why is there no end to such blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

>

> So how can we make sense of all this?

>

> The priests of this SYSSReligion have edited the teachings of its

> founder into the subtle system, a language common people cannot

> understand. This is useful in preventing humanity from learning

> enough about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders,

> both political and spiritual, are disregarding Christ's actual

> teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> present day as SY politicians posing as Shri Mataji's hand-picked,

> self-righteously press on the unsuspecting public an agenda which is

> in almost every detail the opposite of Jesus'.

>

> The worst tragedy of this Dark Age of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> Religion is not only that thinking is no longer allowed (questioning

> the SY Church is an excommunicable offense), but that direct

personal

> exploration of mystical states is strictly forbidden and regarded as

> the work of Evil.

>

> It is on these grounds that the SY Church is being built, as was its

> origins centuries ago. Associate with it at your own peril.

>

> regards to all,

>

>

> jagbir

>

[Guest guest]

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

 

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

Thanks for your answer. One answer that surprises me is the following:

 

> A: Shri Mataji does not know what Patrick Lantoin (or other humans)

> did but the Divine Mother does. That is why Shri Mataji now, even at

> this time, cannot tell everyone that they must stop demonizing the

> family that provided the mystical evidence to confirm Her

> Incarnation.

 

i would have thought that somehow Shri Mataji would have come to know about the

demonization in Sahaja Yoga organisation, of the 'special children' She said

'would give separate evidence of Her incarnation from outside of the

organisation of Sahaja Yoga' which children She said 'Sahaja Yogis would hear

about later', that myself and a roomful of yogis heard Her say at Sydney Airport

in 1994. That most yogis who heard this have forgotten this, is a moot point, in

face of the many facts we have of how the priests in Sahaja Yoga have worked

relentlessly against this mystical knowledge from being known. But 'known', it

is becoming, just like Shri Mataji predicted in 1994!

 

In fact the very demonization itself of these children by the priests in control

of SY is in its way a negative proof that they know Shri Mataji spoke about, and

approved these children. They just refuse to admit it to themselves - and will

definitely not admit it to others. What other reason could there be that these

children have so much power to disturb these SY priests? (They are grown men for

God's sake!): " Because these children are mystics! " Mystics drive priests mad,

because they go against all that the priests stand for. And priests drive

mystics mad, because the priests go against all that the mystics stand for. (If

i remember correctly, Jagbir said that Shri Mataji had told YM to leave the

children be, but he went against Her.) YM liked to write about mysticism in a

book, but to face the real thing in his own backyard, literally, was just too

much for this SY priest. If these children were merely 'possessed' as YM first

claimed, there is no way that they would have had the power to disturb these SY

priests so much. 'Their' immense fear of these children and their mystical

revelations, caused them to label them as 'possessed' for fear of their own

priestly demise. That's why i believe they must have known without a doubt, that

Shri Mataji spoke about, and approved of, the children. That's also why i

believe there has been so much unprecedented opposition against these children.

And the beautiful, innocent thing about all this is that they are/were just

children - " special children " ! (Think about that!): That the SY Priests had to

demonize " children " ! As Jesus said about children: " Of such is the Kingdom of

Heaven. " There are no words more truly spoken - and they can be doubly

appreciated at this unprecedented historical time, where we have received this

unprecedented mystical knowledge to confirm the Adi Shakti's incarnation.

 

While the priests (and not the mystics) expect the SYs to follow and obey them

through their organised structure of hierarchy, making it easy to ex-communicate

and demonize any they wish, the priests themselves do not feel the need to

follow and obey Shri Mataji to the letter, as evidenced by their official

editing out of Shri Mataji's Guru Puja Speech 2008, where She gave authority to

SYs to form their own organisations. We have received so much evidence against

the SY priests by conscientious SYs who have emailed us over the years. We have

ample evidence that the priests of SY can speak against Shri Mataji's Will while

at the same time making out and/or claiming to be, that Will.

 

i had a bit of difficulty understanding how an incarnation could speak about and

approve of these 'special children' and yet not enquire about them, as to how

they are and how they are being treated by other SYs. And then i remembered that

they are independent Witnesses, giving independent Evidence to the truth of the

Incarnation of the Adi Shakti. From the legal point of view, they have to be

like what is called 'disinterested parties', not having met with the person for

whom they are testifying, because that would make them 'interested parties' and

their evidence would become invalidated in a Court of Law scenario. And it is

true, that the children have never met Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in person! But

they have met the Adi Shakti in their Sahasrara! This is all so amazing that SYs

should be very, very happy indeed! The whole thing is just so perfect, folks!

And that's why the SY Priests are so worried too. But it all makes so much sense

now. Everything is happening the only way it really can. And that's also why

Jagbir's points on why the priestly class and the mystics cannot work together

is so revealing, also:

 

 

> A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

> together because of the following reasons:

>

> i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

> the mystics want freedom for the masses;

 

That's right! How can the priestly class and the mystics work together, when the

priestly class want control and power over the masses, while the mystics want

freedom for the masses! It just doesn't work together!

 

 

> ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

> organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

> external organization;

 

Yes! And i can also see now that if you give one ritual, then you have to give

2, and 3, and 4, and 5, and that is how the priestly class can then use these

rituals to control others through the SYSSR thereby changing the meaning of SY

that the mystics know as the " Divine Within " . Here is a question: Can anyone

find for me a site on the internet where the SY Priests talk about the " Divine

Within " from their own mystical experience of SY? " i don't think so. That is not

what priests in general are really about. It kind of goes against their own best

interests as priests, vis-a-vis: " If you find the " Divine Within " why would you

need a priest in the first place? " So as you say Jagbir, mystics use internal

gnosis to destroy such external organizations (run by priests).

 

 

> iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

> mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

 

Exactly! And the mystics/gnostics have given a lot of knowledge so that the

masses can learn to think for themselves instead of being led, in ignorance, by

the spiritually blind priests. The priestly factor hides, misconstrues and

demonizes the knowledge of the Spirit, which is why so many SYs remain stuck on

'their' SYSSR - unable to rid themselves of both rituals and catches!

 

 

> iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

> follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

 

Yes, the priestly class demonize their critics and the herd just follows along,

while the mystics criticize those leading the herd. By what authority did the SY

Priests demonize the children who have given/gave the mystical knowledge to

confirm Shri Mataji's incarnation? It was not by Shri Mataji's authority. She

would not work against Herself like that. We have every reason to stand up to

these hypocrites and thieves of Her Message. Ignorance flourishes while SYs

remain silent. The SY priests have given up on Shri Mataji's continuing Message

of Christ's Last Judgment and Resurrection Message. They just can't deal with

such a great topic. Sure, they can quote Shri Mataji all they want to, but they

don't speak up from the bottom of their own hearts and souls - from their own

deep, individual experience within. They don't voice their innermost thoughts;

themselves. These have been lost in too much organisational control tactics.

They try and influence others, not through the gravity of internal spiritual

authority but from external control, which is both superficial and also " not the

Reality " . Thus they become what Jesus described as empty sepulchers and

whitewashed tombs, pretending to be something white on the outside while they

are like death on the inside. There is just no substance to them but they are

like the blind leading the blind.

 

> v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

> Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

> are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

 

Yes.

 

 

> vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

> like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

> its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

> America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

> struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and

> message, but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

 

Yes.

 

 

> vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of

> self-realized souls, while mystics are those who make such fools

> realize their Self.

 

Yes.

 

 

regards,

 

violet

 

 

 

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

>

> > And the name of the Canadian leader, Jay Chudasama, is missing as it

> > has always been from WCASY .... perhaps the culmination of the

> > decade-old power struggle to dispose him.

> > i did witness attempts to remove him since the mid-1990s but Shri

> > Mataji squashed all dissent. i was there at Pearson Airport,

> > Toronto 1995 when a letter against him was handed to Her. Shri

> > Mataji told the messenger, who had begun publicly

> > denouncing him, that either she stop or immediately leave Sahaja

> > Yoga. i know the people hiding behind this unsuccessful coup who

> > had made her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot.

>

> Jagbir, do you have any idea why 'WCASY' (not called by that name

> back then) wanted to depose Jay Chudasama from his position even as

> early as 1995? You say that they wanted to depose Jay Chudasama but

> couldn't because Shri Mataji was dead against it, so much so that She

> said that they better stop their nonsense, or leave Sahaja Yoga!

> Jagbir, you say you " know the people hiding behind [that]

> unsuccessful coup who had made her an unsuspecting pawn in their

> plot " . Well, if they could make her an unsuspecting pawn in their

> plot back in 1995, that same lack of conscience can also allow them

> to make her an unsuspecting pawn thereafter. Is that not correct,

> Jagbir?

>

> A: Certain SYs believed that Jay Chudasama was not fit to be a leader.

> i believe that it finally culminated in this Patrick Lantoin coup, as

> he is from the Yogi Mahajan clan. Birds of such feathers have always

> flocked together on top of the ivory tower HQ of Sahaja Yoga. PL is

> of the same opinion as YM about children entering the Sahasarara and

> meeting the Devi i.e., they have to be possessed to claim so ......

> and i am being punished by the Divine for writing about the Divine.

>

> > But today they have succeeded, and if i am not mistaken, the email

> > probably betrays this decade-old power struggle. And it is Patrick

> > Lantoin who heads the Canadian Council. It was because of him that i

> > had to leave the collective, the straw that broke the camel's back.

> > That happened in 2000 when i emailed the Montreal collective that we

> > should not be afraid to talk about and declare the Last Judgment and

> > Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah), as even Muslims are unable to protest/

> > reject the www.al-qiyamah.org site. Patrick Lantoin was the only

> > person to respond, and literally told me that i was being meted

> > just punishment from the Divine for what i was doing. It was a

> > letter that shocked me. i vowed never to return till SYs begin

> > declaring the Advent and Message of Shri Mataji in all its

> > entirety, without any restrictions/editing whatsoever.

>

> Jagbir, from what you are saying my understanding is that Patrick

> Lantoin has basically taken over the position of Jay Chudasama in the

> Canadian Council. Given that Patrick responded to you in so negative

> a manner in 2000, it is certainly understandable why you would have

> grave misgivings about him. i wonder if Shri Mataji knows that

> Patrick Lantoin demonized you in an email. In other words, i wonder

> if She knows that this member of the Canadian Council that She

> supposedly approved (with a handwriting that doesn't look like Her old

> handwriting) demonized the person responsible for getting out Her

> mystical evidence to confirm Her Incarnation? i guess even if She did

> realize it, what can She do about it? i have noticed that She does

> not use the tactics of control that WCASY use. i think maybe She has

> to allow all these people to make their mistakes, and learn from

> them. Maybe, She can't interfere with their karma, individually and

> collectively, up to a point. Could you possibly enlighten us

> further on this subject, Jagbir. i am sure you must have contemplated

> it, over the years, that why doesn't Shri Mataji now, even at this

> time, tell everyone that they must stop demonizing the family that

> provided the mystical evidence to confirm Her Incarnation?

>

> A: Shri Mataji does not know what Patrick Lantoin (or other humans)

> did but the Divine Mother does. That is why Shri Mataji now, even at

> this time, cannot tell everyone that they must stop demonizing the

> family that provided the mystical evidence to confirm Her Incarnation.

>

> Or, does She want these two to be separate in any case? Was that the

> Divine's Will all along? After all, i recall Her saying at Sydney

> Airport, in 1994, that " separate " evidence " from outside " the

> organisation of Sahaja Yoga would be given. Now, interestingly, you

> had tried to be a part of the organisation of Sahaja Yoga, but it did

> not work out. The priests in Sahaja Yoga pushed you out, organising

> the Sahaja Yogis as a Weapon of Mass Silence against you. It seems

> you were therefore fated, in any case, to be working for/with the

> Divine from " outside " the organisation of Sahaja Yoga! People would

> have to be blind to history, not to see that the priests and mystics

> have never jelled, with the priestly class perennially demonizing the

> mystics, and even having them killed, and then thinking it is divine

> justice. Priestly Patrick Lantoin called his words and organised

> Weapon of Mass Silence of Sahaja Yogis against you as 'Divine

> Justice' ------ when it was not from the Divine at all, but from the

> priestly class who have the presumption to then blame it on the

> Divine, which is so hypocritical and unconscionable of them; that

> they can't even accept the responsibility for their own actions, but

> must blame it on the Divine! In other words, they haven't changed one

> bit from Christ's time on earth!

>

> A: i believe we are against the same forces of the past i.e., the

> priestly class who have perennially demonized the mystics. Since the

> priestly class are now in full control of the Sahaja Yoga organization

> it has come full circle, and the fight to the finish begins. This

> time they will not succeed and the WCASY camels and offsprings like

> Patrick Lantoin, John Noyce and others will all die of thirst .......

> the thirst of truth.

>

>

> > After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> > Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from

> > Shri Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell

> > speech. They think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task

> > of emancipating humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete

> > control of the reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with

> > immediate effect. There is now no place for the difficulties of

> > pesky pests they have faced in the past, pests who are now firmly

> > squashed and buried in the pages of history. It is obvious that

> > that must have been a huge relief.

> >

> > With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> > including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> > praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The

> > Kingdom Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian

> > SYs towards fellow human beings have faded. This collective,

> > deliberate dishonesty is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all

> > countries practising the official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack

> > of consciousness of a crime against humanity that continues to

> > baffle me. How can Self-realized souls have no such conscience?

> > What has collectively overcome them? Why is there no end to such

> > blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

> >

> > So how can we make sense of all this?

>

> Jagbir, the Sahaja Yogis had a conscience, but it has been hijacked

> by the priestly class, who have organised them into a Weapon of Mass

> Silence of Sahaja Yogis against you, and most yogis now dare not

> speak out, from that deliberate organisation. The priestly class just

> cannot accept anything they have no control over, even though Shri

> Mataji approved of it. Obviously, the mystics and the priestly class

> can never work together happily, because the mystics will

> never accept external control because it goes against their very

> nature. The All-Knowing, All-Seeing Divine must have known that, and

> therefore arranged for the mystical evidence that would confirm Shri

> Mataji's incarnation, to be given from outside the organisation of

> Sahaja Yoga. That being the case, we can put our hearts and minds at

> rest. Not only that, but now Shri Mataji has given permission for all

> of us Sahaja Yogis to form our own organisations. So the mystics are

> free at last, both internally and externally!

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

>

> violet

>

> A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

> together because of the following reasons:

>

> i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

> the mystics want freedom for the masses;

> ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

> organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

> external organization;

> iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

> mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

> iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

> follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

> v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

> Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

> are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

> vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

> like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

> its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

> America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

> struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and message,

> but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

> vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of self-realized

> souls, while mystics are those who make such fools realize their Self.

>

> regards,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> > i have to break this Silence to expose " The priests of this

> SYSSReligion who have edited the teachings of its founder "

> >

> > >

> > > The priests of this religion recited the teachings of its founder

> > > in a language common people could not understand. This was useful

> > > in preventing Europe's beleagured peasants from learning enough

> > > about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders, both

> > > political and spiritual, were disregarding Christ's actual

> > > teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> > > present day, as politicians posing as Christians self-righteously

> > > press on the American public an agenda which is in almost every

> > > detail the opposite of Jesus'.

> > >

> > > The worst tragedy of Europe's Dark Age of Christianity was not

> only

> > > that thinking was no longer allowed (questioning the church was a

> > > capital offense), but that direct personal exploration of mystical

> > > states was strictly forbidden.

> > >

> > > The Living Goddess:

> > > Reclaiming the Tradition of the Mother of the Universe

> > >

> > > By Consul B. John Zavrel

> > >

> >

> > theworldcouncil@ sahajayoga. org; lant_pc (AT) hotmail (DOT) com;

> > amorrissey (AT) telus (DOT) net

> > Fwd: Letter from H.H. Shri Mataji to Canadian Council

> > Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:32:43 -0400

> > dunphitect (AT) aol (DOT) com

> >

> > Dear Brothers and Sisters:

> >

> > I am very pleased to inform you all that according to the attached

> > letter from Cabella, Our Holy Mother has nominated the attached

> > reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect. May

> > this mark a new chapter in the growth and expansion of Sahaja Yoga

> in

> > Canada and place the difficulties they have faced in the past firmly

> > in the pages of history. Sandeep and I stand ready to assist the new

> > CNC in getting up and running and establishing a positive and

> > collaborative relationship with the members of the wider collective.

> >

> > We extend our deepest thanks and gratitude to Shri Mataji for

> placing

> > Her divine attention on Canada and guiding us all through this

> > delicate process. It is only through Her blessings that Canada can

> > now realize its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part

> > of North America.

> >

> > On behalf of the World Council, I would like to offer our heartiest

> > congratulations to Patrick and Alan and wish them all the best in

> > their efforts in manifesting Shri Matajis vision.

> >

> > JAI SHRI MATAJI!

> >

> > With All Love and Respect:

> >

> > Dave Dunphy

> > Sandeep Gadkary

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------

> >

> > Note: This is the strangest signature of Shri Mataji i have seen,

> not

> > that i am disputing it.

> >

> > http://adishakti.org/images/letter_to_canada_20081015.jpg

> >

> > If you enlarge and examine the signature, all you see are strange

> > lines (as if the person is drugged/drowsy and quite incapacitated.

> > How else can we interpret this 'signature' as we know She have been

> > repeatedly medicated with powerful psychotic drugs like Risperidone

> > against Her written instruction? Click on link below and see 10th.

> > December 1998 letter to compare both signatures).

> >

> > http://adishakti.org/images/to_whomsoever_it_may_concern.jpg

> >

> > You can see that " Nirmala Srivastava " is clear and legible here, but

> > not in the recent 15 October 2008 letter. What is the cause of such

> a

> > drastic change? We must never ever forget that most infamous,

> > nefarious and blasphemous claim by WCASY that they represent Her

> Will.

> >

> > And the name of the Canadian leader, Jay Chudasama, is missing as it

> > has always been from WCASY .... perhaps the culmination of the

> decade-

> > old power struggle to dispose him. i did witness attempts to remove

> > him since the mid-1990s but Shri Mataji squashed all dissent. i was

> > there at Pearson Airport, Toronto 1995 when a letter against him was

> > handed to Her. Shri Mataji told the messenger, who had begun

> publicly

> > denouncing him, that either she stop or immediately leave Sahaja

> Yoga.

> > i know the people hiding behind this unsuccessful coup who had made

> > her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot.

> >

> > But today they have succeeded, and if i am not mistaken, the email

> > probably betrays this decade-old power struggle. And it is Patrick

> > Lantoin who heads the Canadian Council. It was because of him that i

> > had to leave the collective, the straw that broke the camel's back.

> > That happened in 2000 when i emailed the Montreal collective that we

> > should not be afraid to talk about and declare the Last Judgment and

> > Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah), as even Muslims are unable to protest/

> > reject the www.al-qiyamah.org site.

> >

> > Patrick Lantoin was the only person to respond, and literally told

> me

> > that i was being meted just punishment from the Divine for what i

> was

> > doing. It was a letter that shocked me. i vowed never to return till

> > SYs begin declaring the Advent and Message of Shri Mataji in all its

> > entirety, without any restrictions/editing whatsoever.

> >

> > After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> > Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from

> Shri

> > Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell speech.

> They

> > think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task of emancipating

> > humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete control of the

> > reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect.

> There

> > is now no place for the difficulties of pesky pests they have faced

> in

> > the past, pests who are now firmly squashed and buried in the pages

> > of history. It is obvious that that must have been a huge relief.

> >

> > With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> > including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> > praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The

> Kingdom

> > Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian SYs

> towards

> > fellow human beings have faded. This collective, deliberate

> dishonesty

> > is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all countries practising the

> > official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack of consciousness of a

> crime

> > against humanity that continues to baffle me. How can Self-realized

> > souls have no such conscience? What has collectively overcome them?

> > Why is there no end to such blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

> >

> > So how can we make sense of all this?

> >

> > The priests of this SYSSReligion have edited the teachings of its

> > founder into the subtle system, a language common people cannot

> > understand. This is useful in preventing humanity from learning

> > enough about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders,

> > both political and spiritual, are disregarding Christ's actual

> > teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> > present day as SY politicians posing as Shri Mataji's hand-picked,

> > self-righteously press on the unsuspecting public an agenda which is

> > in almost every detail the opposite of Jesus'.

> >

> > The worst tragedy of this Dark Age of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> > Religion is not only that thinking is no longer allowed (questioning

> > the SY Church is an excommunicable offense), but that direct

> personal

> > exploration of mystical states is strictly forbidden and regarded as

> > the work of Evil.

> >

> > It is on these grounds that the SY Church is being built, as was its

> > origins centuries ago. Associate with it at your own peril.

> >

> > regards to all,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

> >

>