The future failure/success of SY will depend on the following...

October 25, 2008

Dear Jagbir and all,

i would like to thank you for the 'The future failure/success of SY will depend

on the following' article. i would like to make some comments and ask for some

clarifications on these, please:

The future failure/success of SY will depend on the following:

i) whether you are going to teach them about the Devi and Her incarnation Shri

Mataji, or just Her incarnation;

[Jagbir, i remember Shri Mataji stating that Herself incarnated to introduce us

to our " Individual Mother Within " . Is that Individual Mother Within " the Devi? "

Is that Individual Mother Within " Shri Lalita " , as in 'Shri Lalita Sahasranama'?

Shri Mataji also said that Herself is the " Reflection of the Divine Mother

Within " . Was Shri Mataji referring to this relationship --- that as Incarnation

Adi Shakti, Herself is a Reflection of Devi/Shri Lalita Within?

In the actual spiritual relationship, these Names are One. But these 'Names'

also serve a purpose of distinction between the 'individual trees' (Individual

Divine Incarnations) and the 'whole forest' (the Whole Divine Mother Who doesn't

totally Incarnate Herself all at once - which is probably not even the best way

to express this!). But i feel it is important to try and understand it anyway,

to understand this Relationship because - there could lie the difference between

a SY being able to teach about the Devi and Her Incarnation Shri Mataji, or

being able to teach " just about Her incarnation " .]

ii) whether you are going to teach them to realize the Devi (Self or Antaryamin)

within themselves, or realize the photo on the altar of Her incarnation Shri

Mataji;

[Does not the Internal Living Photo of the Divine Mother Within exist also? Our

Spirit is made in God's Image. With Self-realisation the Image of the Holy

Spirit is awakened within us. We recognize our Divine Mother's Image, that She

is there! That's why at Guru Puja 2008, Shri Mataji said we can give

Self-realisation from our Self! If we are aware of that Divine Photo Within, we

can teach people to realize the Devi (Self or Antaryamin). We can have them go

straight to the Source Within themselves. As Sahaja Yogis, we have the power to

do that.]

iii) whether you are going to teach them that the Devi exists as the Divine

Feminine in all religions and holy scriptures, or that the subtle system of the

SYSSR exists in all;

[Teaching that the Devi exists as the Divine Feminine in all religions and holy

scriptures, is an essential Grounding that won't ever be forgotten. It is a

Grounding that will prepare people to meet their Individual Mother Within. The

subtle system knowledge is/was practical knowledge to bring Shri Mataji's

disciples up to par, so they would have the working knowledge to transform

themselves, before they could help transform others. But the real transformation

came from the Individual Mother Within! Anyone that thinks that it was their

subtle system practices alone that transformed them, is forgetting about the

Divine Mother's role in their spiritual work. She is the Author of any true

Aid!]

iv) whether you are going to teach that " Muslims, Hindus, Christians and all

have to evolve to a higher state " during this Blossom Time, or let them continue

doubting, debating, arguing and eventually fleeing the little known SYSSR

(Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion);

[We have to go for the Big Picture, that " Muslims, Hindus, Christians and all

have to evolve to a higher state " during this Blossom Time. If we get caught up

in the little known SYSSR, then others will also get caught up in it, and may

never come to know the Divine Feminine within. That is why it is important to

teach " first things first " . If the Divine Feminine is understood, then any

subtle system knowledge can be understood in relation to Her, as an optional

help available if needed, like medicine. i think that is the Spirit in which

Shri Mataji doled out subtle system knowledge in any case, but it has been made

into the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion) of all things, which is

absolutely absurd! Because it was always an aid and not the Goal. SYs got so

involved in the aids, that they lost sight of the Goal - the Divine Mother

Within!]

v) whether you are going to teach them to meditate without ANY external rituals

as ALL religions strictly demand, or introduce them to the 1001 rituals of the

SYSSR;

[Jagbir, which rituals are you referring to? Are you referring to the Kundalini

Awakening Guided Meditation? What about the Bandhan? What about Balancing one's

energy? Are you saying these are not needed? i thought these basics were needed.

They were really helpful for me, is what i am saying. i don't quite understand

not to use " ANY " rituals. Even the strict religions all have a modicum of

rituals. Or are you saying that is what is needed to reach people in some

particularly strict religions that would not accept any rituals whatsoever that

they are not familiar with? So, that for Hindus, a modicum of basic

rituals/subtle system knowledge would be OK, but for Christians, for example, it

would require simply closing one's eyes, and meditating within, without an

external photo, candle, or incense.]

vi) whether you are going to tell them to keep on meditating while learning from

www.adishakti.org on the unity and synthesis of all religions, prophets and holy

scriptures, or the unity of all SYs and their collectives against external

criticism from www.sahajayoga.org and the internet;

[Yes, that is without a doubt necessary, to have people meditating while

learning from www.adishakti.org and the synthesis of all religions, prophets and

holy scriptures.]

vii) whether you are going to teach about how the corrupted religions have been

restored back to their original purity by the Devi and Her incarnation, or

remain silent on how that purity is now being again corrupted by those in charge

of the SY organization;

[Yes, it is important to teach about how the corrupted religions have been

restored back to their original purity by the Devi and Her incarnation, and we

must not remain silent on how that purity has been again corrupted by those in

charge of the SY organisation.]

viii) whether you are going to teach about how to be truthful, dharmic and in

vidya right from the start, or to be dishonest, adharmic and in avidya from the

beginning;

[Yes, that is very important to teach about how to be truthful, dharmic and in

vidya right from the start!]

ix) whether you are going to teach yourself to attain moksa by unconditionally

following the Devi and Her incarnation Shri Mataji, or condemn yourself yet

again into the whirlpool of rebirths by preaching others about the SYSSR.

[The choice would of course have to teach oneself to attain moksha by

unconditionally following the Devi and Her incarnation Shri Mataji - not the

avidya of the SYSSR.]

x) whether you are going to teach them to be their own gurus by forming a new

group based on all the above guidelines, or invite them back to the SYSSR

meditation groups/collectives that 99.99 have consistently always fled for more

than three decades;

[Yes, this is a new opportunity to guide others into the Sahaja Yoga that Shri

Mataji taught, and not the SYSSR from which so many have fled over the decades.]

> The above applies to all who worship the Devi within and follow Her

> incarnation, Shri Mataji, without. If you cannot be honest and

> upfront to others, it is better you not incur the penalty of

> rebirth. You will never ever liberate yourself and enter the

> Kingdom of God by deliberately misleading humanity. SSSYR SYs claim

> others are false gurus. Are they any better?

>

> But for me SYs are worse because unlike them, false gurus teach out

> of ignorance. Unlike SYs, false gurus also teach out of a genuine

> desire to be truthful and conscientious towards fellow human beings.

October 25, 2008

Dear Jagbir,

Re Point v) appended...

.....Or are you giving a guideline for a New Organisation, in which we need to be

more 'Standard' in the way we operate. i know the Devi can liberate us without

any rituals. That we can just turn to Her Within. Are you suggesting we turn

right away from all rituals, as an organisation, so nobody need be turned off by

any rituals whatsoever? Do you believe the SYSSR has so spoiled Shri Mataji's

teachings that we really need to go in the opposite direction, and have no

rituals whatsoever? i know this is a somewhat contentious issue, but it would be

good to get your take on this. Do you believe people can have their spiritual

liberation without any ritual help, whatsoever? That is the main point, i would

say.

warmest regards,

violet