The priests of this SYSSReligion have also edited and corrupted the teachings of their founder

[Guest guest]

A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

together because of the following reasons:

 

i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

the mystics want freedom for the masses;

ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

external organization;

iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and message,

but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of self-realized

souls, while mystics are those who make such fools realize their Self.

 

 

Dear Violet and all,

 

Actually i wanted to put the cherry on the priestly class vs mystics

cake today, and make it the center of our attention and admiration. i

believe the cherry completes the cake:

 

viii) the priestly class indoctrinate the ignorant masses to worship/

meditate an external god so that they can become divine and immortal,

while the mystics enlighten them to worship/meditate on the internal

God as they were always divine and immortal.

 

Mystics like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj have always tried

to free the ignorant masses from the clutches of the priestly class,

and at times paid the ultimate price for defying the latter. SYs have

forgotten that Shri Mataji's advent and message of the Kingdom of God

(Sahasrara) confirm without any doubt that She is the incarnation of

the greatest mystic of all ....... the Divine Feminine! That is

because the priestly class of the SYSSReligion have indoctrinated the

ignorant SY masses to worship/meditate on an external image of Shri

Mataji, while the mystics have given irrefutable evidence that they

can meditate on the Divine Feminine within, who is their own Self!

 

 

regards,

 

jagbir

 

 

------------------------------

 

i have to break this Silence to expose " The priests of this

SYSSReligion who have edited the teachings of its founder "

 

>

> The priests of this religion recited the teachings of its founder

> in a language common people could not understand. This was useful

> in preventing Europe's beleagured peasants from learning enough

> about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders, both

> political and spiritual, were disregarding Christ's actual

> teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> present day, as politicians posing as Christians self-righteously

> press on the American public an agenda which is in almost every

> detail the opposite of Jesus'.

>

> The worst tragedy of Europe's Dark Age of Christianity was not only

> that thinking was no longer allowed (questioning the church was a

> capital offense), but that direct personal exploration of mystical

> states was strictly forbidden.

>

> The Living Goddess:

> Reclaiming the Tradition of the Mother of the Universe

>

> By Consul B. John Zavrel

>

 

theworldcouncil@ sahajayoga. org; lant_pc (AT) hotmail (DOT) com;

amorrissey (AT) telus (DOT) net

Fwd: Letter from H.H. Shri Mataji to Canadian Council

Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:32:43 -0400

dunphitect (AT) aol (DOT) com

 

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

 

I am very pleased to inform you all that according to the attached

letter from Cabella, Our Holy Mother has nominated the attached

reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect. May

this mark a new chapter in the growth and expansion of Sahaja Yoga in

Canada and place the difficulties they have faced in the past firmly

in the pages of history. Sandeep and I stand ready to assist the new

CNC in getting up and running and establishing a positive and

collaborative relationship with the members of the wider collective.

 

We extend our deepest thanks and gratitude to Shri Mataji for placing

Her divine attention on Canada and guiding us all through this

delicate process. It is only through Her blessings that Canada can

now realize its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part

of North America.

 

On behalf of the World Council, I would like to offer our heartiest

congratulations to Patrick and Alan and wish them all the best in

their efforts in manifesting Shri Matajis vision.

 

JAI SHRI MATAJI!

 

With All Love and Respect:

 

Dave Dunphy

Sandeep Gadkary

 

 

-------------------------------

 

Note: This is the strangest signature of Shri Mataji i have seen, not

that i am disputing it.

 

http://adishakti.org/images/letter_to_canada_20081015.jpg

 

If you enlarge and examine the signature, all you see are strange

lines (as if the person is drugged/drowsy and quite incapacitated.

How else can we interpret this 'signature' as we know She have been

repeatedly medicated with powerful psychotic drugs like Risperidone

against Her written instruction? Click on link below and see 10th.

December 1998 letter to compare both signatures).

 

http://adishakti.org/images/to_whomsoever_it_may_concern.jpg

 

You can see that " Nirmala Srivastava " is clear and legible here, but

not in the recent 15 October 2008 letter. What is the cause of such a

drastic change? We must never ever forget that most infamous,

nefarious and blasphemous claim by WCASY that they represent Her Will.

 

And the name of the Canadian leader, Jay Chudasama, is missing as it

has always been from WCASY .... perhaps the culmination of the decade-

old power struggle to dispose him. i did witness attempts to remove

him since the mid-1990s but Shri Mataji squashed all dissent. i was

there at Pearson Airport, Toronto 1995 when a letter against him was

handed to Her. Shri Mataji told the messenger, who had begun publicly

denouncing him, that either she stop or immediately leave Sahaja Yoga.

i know the people hiding behind this unsuccessful coup who had made

her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot.

 

But today they have succeeded, and if i am not mistaken, the email

probably betrays this decade-old power struggle. And it is Patrick

Lantoin who heads the Canadian Council. It was because of him that i

had to leave the collective, the straw that broke the camel's back.

That happened in 2000 when i emailed the Montreal collective that we

should not be afraid to talk about and declare the Last Judgment and

Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah), as even Muslims are unable to protest/

reject the www.al-qiyamah.org site.

 

Patrick Lantoin was the only person to respond, and literally told me

that i was being meted just punishment from the Divine for what i was

doing. It was a letter that shocked me. i vowed never to return till

SYs begin declaring the Advent and Message of Shri Mataji in all its

entirety, without any restrictions/editing whatsoever.

 

After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from Shri

Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell speech. They

think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task of emancipating

humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete control of the

reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect. There

is now no place for the difficulties of pesky pests they have faced in

the past, pests who are now firmly squashed and buried in the pages

of history. It is obvious that that must have been a huge relief.

 

With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom

Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian SYs towards

fellow human beings have faded. This collective, deliberate dishonesty

is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all countries practising the

official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack of consciousness of a crime

against humanity that continues to baffle me. How can Self-realized

souls have no such conscience? What has collectively overcome them?

Why is there no end to such blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

 

So how can we make sense of all this?

 

The priests of this SYSSReligion have edited the teachings of its

founder into the subtle system, a language common people cannot

understand. This is useful in preventing humanity from learning

enough about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders,

both political and spiritual, are disregarding Christ's actual

teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

present day as SY politicians posing as Shri Mataji's hand-picked,

self-righteously press on the unsuspecting public an agenda which is

in almost every detail the opposite of Jesus'.

 

The worst tragedy of this Dark Age of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion is not only that thinking is no longer allowed (questioning

the SY Church is an excommunicable offense), but that direct personal

exploration of mystical states is strictly forbidden and regarded as

the work of Evil.

 

It is on these grounds that the SY Church is being built, as was its

origins centuries ago. Associate with it at your own peril.

 

regards to all,

 

 

jagbir

 

, " Violet "

<violetubb wrote:

>

> After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from

> Shri Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell

> speech. They think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task

> of emancipating humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete

> control of the reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with

> immediate effect. There is now no place for the difficulties of

> pesky pests they have faced in the past, pests who are now firmly

> squashed and buried in the pages of history. It is obvious that

> that must have been a huge relief.

>

> With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The

> Kingdom Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian

> SYs towards fellow human beings have faded. This collective,

> deliberate dishonesty is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all

> countries practising the official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack

> of consciousness of a crime against humanity that continues to

> baffle me. How can Self-realized souls have no such conscience?

> What has collectively overcome them? Why is there no end to such

> blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

>

> So how can we make sense of all this?

 

Jagbir, the Sahaja Yogis had a conscience, but it has been hijacked

by the priestly class, who have organised them into a Weapon of Mass

Silence of Sahaja Yogis against you, and most yogis now dare not

speak out, from that deliberate organisation. The priestly class just

cannot accept anything they have no control over, even though Shri

Mataji approved of it. Obviously, the mystics and the priestly class

can never work together happily, because the mystics will

never accept external control because it goes against their very

nature. The All-Knowing, All-Seeing Divine must have known that, and

therefore arranged for the mystical evidence that would confirm Shri

Mataji's incarnation, to be given from outside the organisation of

Sahaja Yoga. That being the case, we can put our hearts and minds at

rest. Not only that, but now Shri Mataji has given permission for all

of us Sahaja Yogis to form our own organisations. So the mystics are

free at last, both internally and externally!

 

Jai Shri Mataji!

 

violet

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

 

A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

together because of the following reasons:

 

i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

the mystics want freedom for the masses;

ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

external organization;

iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and message,

but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of self-realized

souls, while mystics are those who make such fools realize their Self.

 

 

Dear Jagbir and All,

 

Thanks for your answer. One answer that surprises me is the following:

 

> A: Shri Mataji does not know what Patrick Lantoin (or other humans)

> did but the Divine Mother does. That is why Shri Mataji now, even at

> this time, cannot tell everyone that they must stop demonizing the

> family that provided the mystical evidence to confirm Her

> Incarnation.

 

i would have thought that somehow Shri Mataji would have come to know

about the demonization in Sahaja Yoga organisation, of the 'special

children' She said 'would give separate evidence of Her incarnation

from outside of the organisation of Sahaja Yoga' which children She

said 'Sahaja Yogis would hear about later', that myself and a roomful

of yogis heard Her say at Sydney Airport in 1994. That most yogis who

heard this have forgotten this, is a moot point, in face of the many

facts we have of how the priests in Sahaja Yoga have worked

relentlessly against this mystical knowledge from being known. But

'known', it is becoming, just like Shri Mataji predicted in 1994!

 

In fact the very demonization itself of these children by the priests

in control of SY is in its way a negative proof that they know Shri

Mataji spoke about, and approved these children. They just refuse to

admit it to themselves - and will definitely not admit it to others.

What other reason could there be that these children have so much

power to disturb these SY priests? (They are grown men for God's

sake!): " Because these children are mystics! " Mystics drive priests

mad, because they go against all that the priests stand for. And

priests drive mystics mad, because the priests go against all that

the mystics stand for. (If i remember correctly, Jagbir said that

Shri Mataji had told YM to leave the children be, but he went against

Her.) YM liked to write about mysticism in a book, but to face the

real thing in his own backyard, literally, was just too much for this

SY priest. If these children were merely 'possessed' as YM first

claimed, there is no way that they would have had the power to

disturb these SY priests so much. 'Their' immense fear of these

children and their mystical revelations, caused them to label them

as 'possessed' for fear of their own priestly demise. That's why i

believe they must have known without a doubt, that Shri Mataji spoke

about, and approved of, the children. That's also why i believe there

has been so much unprecedented opposition against these children.

And the beautiful, innocent thing about all this is that they

are/were just children - " special children " ! (Think about that!):

That the SY Priests had to demonize " children " ! As Jesus said about

children: " Of such is the Kingdom of Heaven. " There are no words more

truly spoken - and they can be doubly appreciated at this

unprecedented historical time, where we have received this

unprecedented mystical knowledge to confirm the Adi Shakti's

incarnation.

 

While the priests (and not the mystics) expect the SYs to follow and

obey them through their organised structure of hierarchy, making it

easy to ex-communicate and demonize any they wish, the priests

themselves do not feel the need to follow and obey Shri Mataji to the

letter, as evidenced by their official editing out of Shri Mataji's

Guru Puja Speech 2008, where She gave authority to SYs to form their

own organisations. We have received so much evidence against the SY

priests by conscientious SYs who have emailed us over the years. We

have ample evidence that the priests of SY can speak against Shri

Mataji's Will while at the same time making out and/or claiming to

be, that Will.

 

i had a bit of difficulty understanding how an incarnation could

speak about and approve of these 'special children' and yet not

enquire about them, as to how they are and how they are being treated

by other SYs. And then i remembered that they are independent

Witnesses, giving independent Evidence to the truth of the

Incarnation of the Adi Shakti. From the legal point of view, they

have to be like what is called 'disinterested parties', not having

met with the person for whom they are testifying, because that would

make them 'interested parties' and their evidence would become

invalidated in a Court of Law scenario. And it is true, that the

children have never met Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in person! But

they have met the Adi Shakti in their Sahasrara! This is all so

amazing that SYs should be very, very happy indeed! The whole thing

is just so perfect, folks! And that's why the SY Priests are so

worried too. But it all makes so much sense now. Everything is

happening the only way it really can. And that's also why Jagbir's

points on why the priestly class and the mystics cannot work together

is so revealing, also:

 

>

> A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

> together because of the following reasons:

>

> i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

> the mystics want freedom for the masses;

 

That's right! How can the priestly class and the mystics work

together, when the priestly class want control and power over the

masses, while the mystics want freedom for the masses! It just

doesn't work together!

 

>

> ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

> organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

> external organization;

 

Yes! And i can also see now that if you give one ritual, then you

have to give 2, and 3, and 4, and 5, and that is how the priestly

class can then use these rituals to control others through the SYSSR

thereby changing the meaning of SY that the mystics know as

the " Divine Within " . Here is a question: Can anyone find for me a

site on the internet where the SY Priests talk about the " Divine

Within " from their own mystical experience of SY? " i don't think so.

That is not what priests in general are really about. It kind of goes

against their own best interests as priests, vis-a-vis: " If you find

the " Divine Within " why would you need a priest in the first place? "

So as you say Jagbir, mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such

external organizations (run by priests).

 

>

> iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

> mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

 

Exactly! And the mystics/gnostics have given a lot of knowledge so

that the masses can learn to think for themselves instead of being

led, in ignorance, by the spiritually blind priests. The priestly

factor hides, misconstrues and demonizes the knowledge of the Spirit,

which is why so many SYs remain stuck on 'their' SYSSR - unable to

rid themselves of both rituals and catches!

 

>

> iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

> follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

 

Yes, the priestly class demonize their critics and the herd just

follows along, while the mystics criticize those leading the herd. By

what authority did the SY Priests demonize the children who have

given/gave the mystical knowledge to confirm Shri Mataji's

incarnation? It was not by Shri Mataji's authority. She would not

work against Herself like that. We have every reason to stand up to

these hypocrites and thieves of Her Message. Ignorance flourishes

while SYs remain silent. The SY priests have given up on Shri

Mataji's continuing Message of Christ's Last Judgment and

Resurrection Message. They just can't deal with such a great topic.

Sure, they can quote Shri Mataji all they want to, but they

don't speak up from the bottom of their own hearts and souls - from

their own deep, individual experience within. They don't voice their

innermost thoughts; themselves. These have been lost in too much

organisational control tactics. They try and influence others, not

through the gravity of internal spiritual authority but from external

control, which is both superficial and also " not the Reality " . Thus

they become what Jesus described as empty sepulchers and whitewashed

tombs, pretending to be something white on the outside while they

are like death on the inside. There is just no substance to them but

they are like the blind leading the blind.

 

> v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

> Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

> are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

 

Yes.

 

>

> vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

> like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

> its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

> America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

> struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and

> message, but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

 

Yes.

 

>

> vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of

> self-realized souls, while mystics are those who make such fools

> realize their Self.

 

Yes.

 

 

regards,

 

violet

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and all,

 

Thank you for putting this cherry on the priestly class vs mystics cake today,

which definitely makes it the center of our attention and admiration! i am

reminded that Shri Mataji told us that She had incarnated to introduce us to our

" Individual Mother Within " . In other words, the purpose of Her incarnation was

to introduce us to the Divine Mother/Holy Spirit/Self. Yet the priestly class,

as you say, indoctrinate the masses to keep on worshipping/meditating on an

external god in order to become divine and immortal, while the mystics enlighten

them to worship/meditate on the internal God, which has always been divine and

immortal:

 

> viii) the priestly class indoctrinate the ignorant masses to

> worship/meditate an external god so that they can become divine and

> immortal, while the mystics enlighten them to worship/meditate on

> the internal God as they were always divine and immortal

 

regards,

 

violet

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

> together because of the following reasons:

>

> i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

> the mystics want freedom for the masses;

> ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

> organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

> external organization;

> iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

> mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

> iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

> follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

> v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

> Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

> are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

> vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

> like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

> its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

> America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

> struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and

> message, but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

> vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of self-realized

> souls, while mystics are those who make such fools realize their Self.

>

>

> Dear Violet and all,

>

> Actually i wanted to put the cherry on the priestly class vs mystics

> cake today, and make it the center of our attention and admiration.

> i believe the cherry completes the cake:

>

> viii) the priestly class indoctrinate the ignorant masses to

> worship/meditate an external god so that they can become divine and

> immortal, while the mystics enlighten them to worship/meditate on

> the internal God as they were always divine and immortal.

>

> Mystics like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj have always

> tried to free the ignorant masses from the clutches of the priestly

> class, and at times paid the ultimate price for defying the latter.

> SYs have forgotten that Shri Mataji's advent and message of the

> Kingdom of God (Sahasrara) confirm without any doubt that She is

> the incarnation of the greatest mystic of all ....... the Divine

> Feminine! That is because the priestly class of the SYSSReligion

> have indoctrinated the ignorant SY masses to worship/meditate on an

> external image of Shri Mataji, while the mystics have given

> irrefutable evidence that they can meditate on the Divine Feminine

> within, who is their own Self!

>

>

> regards,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> ------------------------------

>

> i have to break this Silence to expose " The priests of this

> SYSSReligion who have edited the teachings of its founder "

>

> >

> > The priests of this religion recited the teachings of its founder

> > in a language common people could not understand. This was useful

> > in preventing Europe's beleagured peasants from learning enough

> > about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders, both

> > political and spiritual, were disregarding Christ's actual

> > teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> > present day, as politicians posing as Christians self-righteously

> > press on the American public an agenda which is in almost every

> > detail the opposite of Jesus'.

> >

> > The worst tragedy of Europe's Dark Age of Christianity was not only

> > that thinking was no longer allowed (questioning the church was a

> > capital offense), but that direct personal exploration of mystical

> > states was strictly forbidden.

> >

> > The Living Goddess:

> > Reclaiming the Tradition of the Mother of the Universe

> >

> > By Consul B. John Zavrel

> >

>

> theworldcouncil@ sahajayoga. org; lant_pc (AT) hotmail (DOT) com;

> amorrissey (AT) telus (DOT) net

> Fwd: Letter from H.H. Shri Mataji to Canadian Council

> Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:32:43 -0400

> dunphitect (AT) aol (DOT) com

>

> Dear Brothers and Sisters:

>

> I am very pleased to inform you all that according to the attached

> letter from Cabella, Our Holy Mother has nominated the attached

> reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect. May

> this mark a new chapter in the growth and expansion of Sahaja Yoga in

> Canada and place the difficulties they have faced in the past firmly

> in the pages of history. Sandeep and I stand ready to assist the new

> CNC in getting up and running and establishing a positive and

> collaborative relationship with the members of the wider collective.

>

> We extend our deepest thanks and gratitude to Shri Mataji for placing

> Her divine attention on Canada and guiding us all through this

> delicate process. It is only through Her blessings that Canada can

> now realize its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part

> of North America.

>

> On behalf of the World Council, I would like to offer our heartiest

> congratulations to Patrick and Alan and wish them all the best in

> their efforts in manifesting Shri Matajis vision.

>

> JAI SHRI MATAJI!

>

> With All Love and Respect:

>

> Dave Dunphy

> Sandeep Gadkary

>

>

> -------------------------------

>

> Note: This is the strangest signature of Shri Mataji i have seen, not

> that i am disputing it.

>

> http://adishakti.org/images/letter_to_canada_20081015.jpg

>

> If you enlarge and examine the signature, all you see are strange

> lines (as if the person is drugged/drowsy and quite incapacitated.

> How else can we interpret this 'signature' as we know She have been

> repeatedly medicated with powerful psychotic drugs like Risperidone

> against Her written instruction? Click on link below and see 10th.

> December 1998 letter to compare both signatures).

>

> http://adishakti.org/images/to_whomsoever_it_may_concern.jpg

>

> You can see that " Nirmala Srivastava " is clear and legible here, but

> not in the recent 15 October 2008 letter. What is the cause of such a

> drastic change? We must never ever forget that most infamous,

> nefarious and blasphemous claim by WCASY that they represent Her Will.

>

> And the name of the Canadian leader, Jay Chudasama, is missing as it

> has always been from WCASY .... perhaps the culmination of the decade-

> old power struggle to dispose him. i did witness attempts to remove

> him since the mid-1990s but Shri Mataji squashed all dissent. i was

> there at Pearson Airport, Toronto 1995 when a letter against him was

> handed to Her. Shri Mataji told the messenger, who had begun publicly

> denouncing him, that either she stop or immediately leave Sahaja Yoga.

> i know the people hiding behind this unsuccessful coup who had made

> her an unsuspecting pawn in their plot.

>

> But today they have succeeded, and if i am not mistaken, the email

> probably betrays this decade-old power struggle. And it is Patrick

> Lantoin who heads the Canadian Council. It was because of him that i

> had to leave the collective, the straw that broke the camel's back.

> That happened in 2000 when i emailed the Montreal collective that we

> should not be afraid to talk about and declare the Last Judgment and

> Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah), as even Muslims are unable to protest/

> reject the www.al-qiyamah.org site.

>

> Patrick Lantoin was the only person to respond, and literally told me

> that i was being meted just punishment from the Divine for what i was

> doing. It was a letter that shocked me. i vowed never to return till

> SYs begin declaring the Advent and Message of Shri Mataji in all its

> entirety, without any restrictions/editing whatsoever.

>

> After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from Shri

> Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell speech. They

> think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task of emancipating

> humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete control of the

> reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with immediate effect. There

> is now no place for the difficulties of pesky pests they have faced in

> the past, pests who are now firmly squashed and buried in the pages

> of history. It is obvious that that must have been a huge relief.

>

> With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom

> Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian SYs towards

> fellow human beings have faded. This collective, deliberate dishonesty

> is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all countries practising the

> official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack of consciousness of a crime

> against humanity that continues to baffle me. How can Self-realized

> souls have no such conscience? What has collectively overcome them?

> Why is there no end to such blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

>

> So how can we make sense of all this?

>

> The priests of this SYSSReligion have edited the teachings of its

> founder into the subtle system, a language common people cannot

> understand. This is useful in preventing humanity from learning

> enough about Jesus's words to realize that many of their leaders,

> both political and spiritual, are disregarding Christ's actual

> teachings at every turn. Unfortunately, this continues to the

> present day as SY politicians posing as Shri Mataji's hand-picked,

> self-righteously press on the unsuspecting public an agenda which is

> in almost every detail the opposite of Jesus'.

>

> The worst tragedy of this Dark Age of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

> Religion is not only that thinking is no longer allowed (questioning

> the SY Church is an excommunicable offense), but that direct personal

> exploration of mystical states is strictly forbidden and regarded as

> the work of Evil.

>

> It is on these grounds that the SY Church is being built, as was its

> origins centuries ago. Associate with it at your own peril.

>

> regards to all,

>

>

> jagbir

>

> , " Violet "

> <violetubb@> wrote:

> >

> > After more than a decade i now know that will not happen in Canada.

> > Patrick Lantoin and company want to extract maximum benefit from

> > Shri Mataji's mention of Canada in Her 2008 Guru Puja farewell

> > speech. They think they are the ones subtly 'chosen' for the task

> > of emancipating humanity ...... and hence needed to take complete

> > control of the reformed Canadian National Council (CNC) with

> > immediate effect. There is now no place for the difficulties of

> > pesky pests they have faced in the past, pests who are now firmly

> > squashed and buried in the pages of history. It is obvious that

> > that must have been a huge relief.

> >

> > With Patrick Lantoin and like-minded people now taking over,

> > including those clearly disappointed with Shri Mataji's 1999 public

> > praise and approval in Cabella, Italy of Shri Adi Shakti: The

> > Kingdom Of God, all hopes of honesty and transparency by Canadian

> > SYs towards fellow human beings have faded. This collective,

> > deliberate dishonesty is a common trend and mindset of SYs in all

> > countries practising the official SYSSR. It is this pervasive lack

> > of consciousness of a crime against humanity that continues to

> > baffle me. How can Self-realized souls have no such conscience?

> > What has collectively overcome them? Why is there no end to such

> > blatant and deliberate dishonesty?

> >

> > So how can we make sense of all this?

>

> Jagbir, the Sahaja Yogis had a conscience, but it has been hijacked

> by the priestly class, who have organised them into a Weapon of Mass

> Silence of Sahaja Yogis against you, and most yogis now dare not

> speak out, from that deliberate organisation. The priestly class just

> cannot accept anything they have no control over, even though Shri

> Mataji approved of it. Obviously, the mystics and the priestly class

> can never work together happily, because the mystics will

> never accept external control because it goes against their very

> nature. The All-Knowing, All-Seeing Divine must have known that, and

> therefore arranged for the mystical evidence that would confirm Shri

> Mataji's incarnation, to be given from outside the organisation of

> Sahaja Yoga. That being the case, we can put our hearts and minds at

> rest. Not only that, but now Shri Mataji has given permission for all

> of us Sahaja Yogis to form our own organisations. So the mystics are

> free at last, both internally and externally!

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

>

> violet

>

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

>

> A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

> together because of the following reasons:

>

> i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

> the mystics want freedom for the masses;

> ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

> organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

> external organization;

> iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

> mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

> iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

> follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

> v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

> Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

> are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

> vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

> like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

> its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

> America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

> struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and message,

> but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

> vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of self-realized

> souls, while mystics are those who make such fools realize their Self.

>

>

> Dear Jagbir and All,

>

> Thanks for your answer. One answer that surprises me is the following:

>

> > A: Shri Mataji does not know what Patrick Lantoin (or other humans)

> > did but the Divine Mother does. That is why Shri Mataji now, even at

> > this time, cannot tell everyone that they must stop demonizing the

> > family that provided the mystical evidence to confirm Her

> > Incarnation.

>

> i would have thought that somehow Shri Mataji would have come to know

> about the demonization in Sahaja Yoga organisation, of the 'special

> children' She said 'would give separate evidence of Her incarnation

> from outside of the organisation of Sahaja Yoga' which children She

> said 'Sahaja Yogis would hear about later', that myself and a roomful

> of yogis heard Her say at Sydney Airport in 1994. That most yogis who

> heard this have forgotten this, is a moot point, in face of the many

> facts we have of how the priests in Sahaja Yoga have worked

> relentlessly against this mystical knowledge from being known. But

> 'known', it is becoming, just like Shri Mataji predicted in 1994!

>

> In fact the very demonization itself of these children by the priests

> in control of SY is in its way a negative proof that they know Shri

> Mataji spoke about, and approved these children. They just refuse to

> admit it to themselves - and will definitely not admit it to others.

> What other reason could there be that these children have so much

> power to disturb these SY priests? (They are grown men for God's

> sake!): " Because these children are mystics! " Mystics drive priests

> mad, because they go against all that the priests stand for. And

> priests drive mystics mad, because the priests go against all that

> the mystics stand for. (If i remember correctly, Jagbir said that

> Shri Mataji had told YM to leave the children be, but he went against

> Her.) YM liked to write about mysticism in a book, but to face the

> real thing in his own backyard, literally, was just too much for this

> SY priest. If these children were merely 'possessed' as YM first

> claimed, there is no way that they would have had the power to

> disturb these SY priests so much. 'Their' immense fear of these

> children and their mystical revelations, caused them to label them

> as 'possessed' for fear of their own priestly demise. That's why i

> believe they must have known without a doubt, that Shri Mataji spoke

> about, and approved of, the children. That's also why i believe there

> has been so much unprecedented opposition against these children.

> And the beautiful, innocent thing about all this is that they

> are/were just children - " special children " ! (Think about that!):

> That the SY Priests had to demonize " children " ! As Jesus said about

> children: " Of such is the Kingdom of Heaven. " There are no words more

> truly spoken - and they can be doubly appreciated at this

> unprecedented historical time, where we have received this

> unprecedented mystical knowledge to confirm the Adi Shakti's

> incarnation.

>

> While the priests (and not the mystics) expect the SYs to follow and

> obey them through their organised structure of hierarchy, making it

> easy to ex-communicate and demonize any they wish, the priests

> themselves do not feel the need to follow and obey Shri Mataji to the

> letter, as evidenced by their official editing out of Shri Mataji's

> Guru Puja Speech 2008, where She gave authority to SYs to form their

> own organisations. We have received so much evidence against the SY

> priests by conscientious SYs who have emailed us over the years. We

> have ample evidence that the priests of SY can speak against Shri

> Mataji's Will while at the same time making out and/or claiming to

> be, that Will.

>

> i had a bit of difficulty understanding how an incarnation could

> speak about and approve of these 'special children' and yet not

> enquire about them, as to how they are and how they are being treated

> by other SYs. And then i remembered that they are independent

> Witnesses, giving independent Evidence to the truth of the

> Incarnation of the Adi Shakti. From the legal point of view, they

> have to be like what is called 'disinterested parties', not having

> met with the person for whom they are testifying, because that would

> make them 'interested parties' and their evidence would become

> invalidated in a Court of Law scenario. And it is true, that the

> children have never met Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in person! But

> they have met the Adi Shakti in their Sahasrara! This is all so

> amazing that SYs should be very, very happy indeed! The whole thing

> is just so perfect, folks! And that's why the SY Priests are so

> worried too. But it all makes so much sense now. Everything is

> happening the only way it really can. And that's also why Jagbir's

> points on why the priestly class and the mystics cannot work together

> is so revealing, also:

>

> >

> > A: Without question, the priestly class and the mystics cannot work

> > together because of the following reasons:

> >

> > i) the priestly class wants control and power over the masses, while

> > the mystics want freedom for the masses;

>

> That's right! How can the priestly class and the mystics work

> together, when the priestly class want control and power over the

> masses, while the mystics want freedom for the masses! It just

> doesn't work together!

>

> >

> > ii) the priestly class use external rituals to form an exclusive

> > organization, while mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such an

> > external organization;

>

> Yes! And i can also see now that if you give one ritual, then you

> have to give 2, and 3, and 4, and 5, and that is how the priestly

> class can then use these rituals to control others through the SYSSR

> thereby changing the meaning of SY that the mystics know as

> the " Divine Within " . Here is a question: Can anyone find for me a

> site on the internet where the SY Priests talk about the " Divine

> Within " from their own mystical experience of SY? " i don't think so.

> That is not what priests in general are really about. It kind of goes

> against their own best interests as priests, vis-a-vis: " If you find

> the " Divine Within " why would you need a priest in the first place? "

> So as you say Jagbir, mystics use internal gnosis to destroy such

> external organizations (run by priests).

>

> >

> > iii) the priestly class think for the ignorant masses, while the

> > mystics want the masses to think for themselves;

>

> Exactly! And the mystics/gnostics have given a lot of knowledge so

> that the masses can learn to think for themselves instead of being

> led, in ignorance, by the spiritually blind priests. The priestly

> factor hides, misconstrues and demonizes the knowledge of the Spirit,

> which is why so many SYs remain stuck on 'their' SYSSR - unable to

> rid themselves of both rituals and catches!

>

> >

> > iv) the priestly class demonize their critics and their herd just

> > follows along, while mystics criticize those leading that herd;

>

> Yes, the priestly class demonize their critics and the herd just

> follows along, while the mystics criticize those leading the herd. By

> what authority did the SY Priests demonize the children who have

> given/gave the mystical knowledge to confirm Shri Mataji's

> incarnation? It was not by Shri Mataji's authority. She would not

> work against Herself like that. We have every reason to stand up to

> these hypocrites and thieves of Her Message. Ignorance flourishes

> while SYs remain silent. The SY priests have given up on Shri

> Mataji's continuing Message of Christ's Last Judgment and

> Resurrection Message. They just can't deal with such a great topic.

> Sure, they can quote Shri Mataji all they want to, but they

> don't speak up from the bottom of their own hearts and souls - from

> their own deep, individual experience within. They don't voice their

> innermost thoughts; themselves. These have been lost in too much

> organisational control tactics. They try and influence others, not

> through the gravity of internal spiritual authority but from external

> control, which is both superficial and also " not the Reality " . Thus

> they become what Jesus described as empty sepulchers and whitewashed

> tombs, pretending to be something white on the outside while they

> are like death on the inside. There is just no substance to them but

> they are like the blind leading the blind.

>

> > v) the priestly class are people like Pope Benedict XVI, Ayatollah

> > Seyed Ali Khamenei, Yogi Mahajan and Patrick Lantoin, while mystics

> > are people like Jesus Christ, Guru Nanak and Al Hallaj;

>

> Yes.

>

> >

> > vi) the priestly class are those who can make false statements

> > like " It is only through Her blessings that Canada can now realize

> > its full potential in achieving Her vision for that part of North

> > America " , while the mystics tell you that it is all part of a power

> > struggle by those who have not only edited out Her advent and

> > message, but also divided Her Will amongst themselves.

>

> Yes.

>

> >

> > vii) the priestly class are those who make fools out of

> > self-realized souls, while mystics are those who make such fools

> > realize their Self.

>

> Yes.

>

>

> regards,

>

> violet

>