i am adding another day ... Please understand that i am very serious about

[Guest guest]

>

> So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have

> to quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from

> being diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin

> daily experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is

> because this " primordial experience of the Great Mother is the

> foundation of later cultures all over the world. She is like an

> immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our

> consciousness, whose branches are all the forms of life we know,

> and whose flowering is a potential within us, a potential that only

> a tiny handful of the human race has realized. " - - Andrew Harvey &

> Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine

>

> i have the following suggestions:

>

> i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as " Divine Feminine Day "

> as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara and met the

> Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,

> without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within

> all of us ................. and so does our eternal soul.

>

> ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji

> announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-

> reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom to spread Her

> advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or

> leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)

>

 

iii) Every 5th. May will be celebrated as " Sahasrara Day " . All of us

are so blessed as the Great Mother has provided proof that Her

incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, did open the Sahasrara on May 5

1970 as claimed.

 

Bearing Witness To May 5th. 1970

" Jesus' kingdom was not like the popular expectation. He used the

phrase " kingdom of God " with a different meaning. His kingdom was not

of this world (John 18:36). It was not like the kingdoms of this

world. It was the kingdom of God, a supernatural kingdom. It was

invisible to most people (John 3:3)—it could not be understood or

experienced without the Holy Spirit (v. 6). God is Spirit, and the

kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom. " [1]

 

May 5th, 1994, was waited with much anticipation. It was on this day

24 years ago on May 5, 1970 that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, after a

sustained meditation into the early hours of the morning, had opened

the Sahasrara Chakra (Kingdom of God). She accomplished this awesome

feat by immersing Her Lotus Feet in the Indian Ocean, off the coast

of Nargol (about 150 miles from Mumbai, India), and entering a state

of Supreme Samadhi that has no parallel. It is nothing short of a

superhuman feat, beyond anything known to humans.

 

Kash had absolutely no idea of any of the above facts. Neither did

his family know any better as they were new to Sahaja yoga. Instead

of instructing Kash to ask Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi how She opened

the Sahasrara Chakra, his father told him to ask Her how She got Self-

Realization!

 

Kash questioned what was the meaning of " Self-Realization " , but was

told to get all his answers from the Great Adi Shakti. (Actually

Kash's father just casually wanted to get some facts, expecting a

short verbal answer. He was totally unprepared for possibly the most

spectacular Revelation ever witnessed.)

 

To continue ....

 

http://www.adishakti.org/kingdom_of_god/bearing_witness_to_may_5_1970.htm

 

Note: Please understand that i am very serious about us having

nothing to do with the SYSSReligion, WCASY, NIPC, leaders and SYs

i.e., the Sahaja Yoga organization. Those siding with them or still

sitting on the fence here are requested to leave and join them. The

Great Mother must never be associated with the falsehood, corruption,

lies, avidya and lack of conscience that is the WCASY-controlled

Sahaja Yoga organization. If that is not enough, then all the years

of collective abuse, propaganda, and InquiSYtion by WCASY, leaders,

and rank and file SYs against Kash, Arwinder, Lalita and myself--just

for giving evidence of the Great Mother--should be sufficient. If

that is still inadequate then, without question, the Great Mother has

nothing to do with all the obsessive rituals, absurd superstition,

unhealthy indoctrination and psychological deterioration that the

SYSSReligion induces. All this will forever cause future seekers to

flee the Sahaja Yoga organization. We must never ever compromise in

any way whatsoever, lest we jeopardise future public acceptance of Her

advent and message by reason of association with a corrupted and

unconscientious organization. May the Adi Shakti within guide us now!

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> >

> > But you are right though. Most people I have ever brought to the

> > programs do not really want to go to pujas or take part in the

> > external rituals- first reactions from people are usually along

the

> > lines of 'is this really necessary?'. They kind of just go along

> > with it after some sweet talking - and eventually without knowing

it

> > become brainwashed into it I suspect- I know this might sound

harsh

> > to some people - just a viewpoint to consider. Even me, I felt I

was

> > expected to go with the rest of the sheep otherwise I would not

> > really be welcome at the meetings. I am not saying there is no

self

> > gain by these rituals etc but I think they are just keeping sahaja

> > yoga a small sect - problem is, when you're in there living it,

> > ofcourse you don't see it as a sect. I still believe sahaja yoga

can

> > be extremely unhealthy for some peoples minds because of all the

> > things Jagbir has mentioned. My first few weeks were great until

all

> > the other stuff got introduced to me gradually confusing me. Few

> > more months down the line I started to feel disturbed. The

> > superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if we are to

> > attract more people and stop them from deteriorating

> > psychologically. Some people at these meetings carry on like they

> > are qualified mental health practitioners or doctors haha.....and

> > the scary part is they don't even realize it half the time. They

> > issue out all kinds of advice to people with serious conditions

> > they themselves have never experienced... leading them on to

believe

> > their ridiculous treatments will make a major difference... even

> > cure you. It is a struggle for them to recommend a doctor or

> > someone who doesn't have a cool breeze emitting from somewhere.

> > Better to take advice from someone with some cool breeze and no

> > qualifications than someone with no cool breeze but a lifetime of

> > professional medical experience.

> >

> > Right, better foot-soak with some salt.

> >

>

> Dear devotees of the Great Mother,

>

> Namaste - i bow to the Divine Mother who exists within you!

>

> i received an email two weeks ago suggesting that we celebrate the

> Divine Mother. This is what Violet wrote:

>

> date: Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM

> subject: More on the 'Collective Spiritual Birthday'

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> A collective spiritual birthday would be one day in the year, where

> we collectively celebrate together 'the Self'. We have reason to

> celebrate our 'Self'. It could be used as a day of celebration 'to

> the Self', giving praise to the Divine Mother. It would be a nice

> thing to do.

>

> violet (end)

>

> i did agree to give some details.

>

> Today, after having reading Adam's email (above), i am absolutely

> convinced that we need to completely disassociate and distance

> ourselves as far as possible from the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle

> System Religion). If we do not act now future seekers will always be

> diseased by this highly contagious SYSSReligion. And Adam has made

it

> so clear that the consequences of not acting now is dire:

>

> " The superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if we are

> to attract more people and stop them from deteriorating

> psychologically. "

>

> i cannot agree more, especially his accurate prognosis of people

> deteriorating psychologically. It has been a long wait for someone

> brave and honest enough to state the obvious. i knew that for a fact

> in my early years in Sahaja Yoga. The SYs i was with had all kinds

of

> unfounded fears, absurd fanaticism, and unbalanced nature that

always

> disturbed my wife and myself .......... even till today! It was the

> same for all SY collectives. (My brief encounter with the

> divinesahajayoga forum only reinforced the obvious. And the rare

> subtle system SY who posts here, sooner or later confirms ifection

of

> the SYSSReligion disease. The latest SY who exhibited symptoms of

> this disease was Anil Kumar.)

>

> However, all the while i refrained from stating so as SYs would have

> just accused me of making it up just to criticize them. Well, today

> it comes from someone who has stayed in their collectives and became

> diseased by the SYSSReligion. The good news is that because Adam

kept

> occasionally reading the posts at this forum, the disease has not

> progressed to an advanced stage. The day he leaves this sanctuary of

> sanity for good, it will probably consume him completely.

>

> So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have

to

> quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from being

> diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin daily

> experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is because this

> " primordial experience of the Great Mother is the foundation of

later

> cultures all over the world. She is like an immense tree, whose

roots

> lie beyond the reach of our consciousness, whose branches are all

the

> forms of life we know, and whose flowering is a potential within us,

> a potential that only a tiny handful of the human race has

realized. " -

> - Andrew Harvey & Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine

>

> i have the following suggestions:

>

> i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as " Divine Feminine Day "

> as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara and met the

> Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,

> without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within

all

> of us ................. and so does our eternal soul.

>

> ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji

> announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-

> reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom to spread Her

> advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or

> leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)

>

> Note: We may celebrate Her in any way we wish - taking a walk in the

> park; having Kentucky Fried Chicken; meditating in a group; being

> Silent; reflecting on life/universe; rejoicing and being happy that

> the time has come for the Resurrection and such a great event we are

> facing; remembering all the great incarnations; and so forth.

>

> iii) We will not label ourselves as any group or organization.

Instead

> seekers will be welcome on the promise of enlightenment based

entirely

> on their religious background. All we need is do is direct seekers

to

> www.adishakti.org and related sites (that are now over 3000

webpages).

> Christians can join to follow the teachings of the promised

Comforter,

> or merge with the Holy Spirit within, or learn more of Christ's

> teachings and why those born of the Spirit will feel the Wind.

Muslims

> can join to take part in Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection), or check out

> why so many are feeling the Winds of Qiyamah. Jews may find the

> Breath of God triggered within humans by the promised Messiah very

> comforting since it is a Sure Sign revealed in their Torah. Hindus

> may want to merge with the Adi Shakti within, or awaken their

> Kundalini, or meditate on Sri Lalita in their Sahasrara. Sikhs may

> welcome the fact that the Great Mother is the Aykaa Mayee. Others

may

> want to join to find out and realize why the Great Mother " is like

an

> immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our consciousness,

> whose branches are all the forms of life we know, and whose

flowering

> is a potential within us, a potential that only a tiny handful of

the

> human race has realized. " What can we label ourselves thus? Why

> create divisions and exclusivity? Why not allow everyone the freedom

> to choose the religious path(s) they feel most comfortable with? Why

> not let everyone be their own gurus as all the required information

> is at www.adishakti.org and related websites?

>

> iv) Other than Silence on Self--the innermost core of unsurpassed

> enlightenment in its most simplistic reduction and comprehension--

> there must be no other emphasis on rules, dress, food, religion,

guru,

> leadership, ritual, treatment, penance, idol, pilgrimage, or any

other

> human invention to participate in the General Resurrection/evolution

> from a physical being into the eternal spirit.

>

> v) Other than the Divine Feminine, here will be no leaders or gurus

> to guide. Her incarnation Shri Mataji has given all the knowledge

> over the last three decades as a compass to get our bearings. The

> Great Mother not only confirmed the advent and message of Her

> incarnation through Kash, Arwinder and Lalita, but also fulfilled

the

> eschatological expectations of the major religions. And since Shri

> Mataji has officially resigned and will one day leave us, the future

> will increasingly be towards the Great Mother.

>

> As the Gnostic priest and author Jordan Stratford states:

>

> " To be saved from the forces of deception and ignorance (maya in

> Buddhist parlance) one must attain enlightenment: the direct

> experiential intimacy with God that is gnosis. This experience is

the

> birthright of every aware human person. "

>

> That enligtenment has nothing to do with the SYSSReligion and their

> obsessive, ritualistic chakra-cleansing pettiness and avidya. To rid

> ourselves of this disease and be saved from these SYSSReligion

forces

> of deception and ignorance we will have to celebrate the primordial

> experience of the Great Mother ........... and daily experience Her

> in our lives as our innermost Self; the direct experiential intimacy

> with God that is gnosis. That is Self-realization! Period!

>

> regards to all,

>

>

> jagbir

>

>

> Main Entry: ex•pe•ri•en•tial

> relating to, derived from, or providing experience : empirical

> <experiential knowledge>

>

> Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and all,

 

If you do not like 'Spiritual Independence Day', here is another idea.

Shri Mataji commissioned Sahaja Yogis to do the work, and form their own

organisations. i remember in Christianity, it was said that " Christ commissioned

his disciples " to do the work.

 

Maybe, therefore, this day could have the 'Commissioning' word in it. These

examples are some suggestions:

 

" SY Commissioning Day "

 

" The Adi Shakti's Commissioning Day "

 

" Sahaja Yogis Commissioning Day "

 

" Sahaja Yoga Commissioning Day "

 

 

regards,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> >

> > So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have

> > to quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from

> > being diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin

> > daily experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is

> > because this " primordial experience of the Great Mother is the

> > foundation of later cultures all over the world. She is like an

> > immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our

> > consciousness, whose branches are all the forms of life we know,

> > and whose flowering is a potential within us, a potential that only

> > a tiny handful of the human race has realized. " - - Andrew Harvey &

> > Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine

> >

> > i have the following suggestions:

> >

> > i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as " Divine Feminine Day "

> > as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara and met the

> > Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,

> > without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within

> > all of us ................. and so does our eternal soul.

> >

> > ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji

> > announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-

> > reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom to spread Her

> > advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or

> > leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)

> >

>

> iii) Every 5th. May will be celebrated as " Sahasrara Day " . All of us

> are so blessed as the Great Mother has provided proof that Her

> incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, did open the Sahasrara on May 5

> 1970 as claimed.

>

> Bearing Witness To May 5th. 1970

> " Jesus' kingdom was not like the popular expectation. He used the

> phrase " kingdom of God " with a different meaning. His kingdom was not

> of this world (John 18:36). It was not like the kingdoms of this

> world. It was the kingdom of God, a supernatural kingdom. It was

> invisible to most people (John 3:3)—it could not be understood or

> experienced without the Holy Spirit (v. 6). God is Spirit, and the

> kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom. " [1]

>

> May 5th, 1994, was waited with much anticipation. It was on this day

> 24 years ago on May 5, 1970 that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, after a

> sustained meditation into the early hours of the morning, had opened

> the Sahasrara Chakra (Kingdom of God). She accomplished this awesome

> feat by immersing Her Lotus Feet in the Indian Ocean, off the coast

> of Nargol (about 150 miles from Mumbai, India), and entering a state

> of Supreme Samadhi that has no parallel. It is nothing short of a

> superhuman feat, beyond anything known to humans.

>

> Kash had absolutely no idea of any of the above facts. Neither did

> his family know any better as they were new to Sahaja yoga. Instead

> of instructing Kash to ask Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi how She opened

> the Sahasrara Chakra, his father told him to ask Her how She got Self-

> Realization!

>

> Kash questioned what was the meaning of " Self-Realization " , but was

> told to get all his answers from the Great Adi Shakti. (Actually

> Kash's father just casually wanted to get some facts, expecting a

> short verbal answer. He was totally unprepared for possibly the most

> spectacular Revelation ever witnessed.)

>

> To continue ....

>

>

http://www.adishakti.org/kingdom_of_god/bearing_witness_to_may_5_1970.htm

>

> Note: Please understand that i am very serious about us having

> nothing to do with the SYSSReligion, WCASY, NIPC, leaders and SYs

> i.e., the Sahaja Yoga organization. Those siding with them or still

> sitting on the fence here are requested to leave and join them. The

> Great Mother must never be associated with the falsehood, corruption,

> lies, avidya and lack of conscience that is the WCASY-controlled

> Sahaja Yoga organization. If that is not enough, then all the years

> of collective abuse, propaganda, and InquiSYtion by WCASY, leaders,

> and rank and file SYs against Kash, Arwinder, Lalita and myself--just

> for giving evidence of the Great Mother--should be sufficient. If

> that is still inadequate then, without question, the Great Mother has

> nothing to do with all the obsessive rituals, absurd superstition,

> unhealthy indoctrination and psychological deterioration that the

> SYSSReligion induces. All this will forever cause future seekers to

> flee the Sahaja Yoga organization. We must never ever compromise in

> any way whatsoever, lest we jeopardise future public acceptance of Her

> advent and message by reason of association with a corrupted and

> unconscientious organization. May the Adi Shakti within guide us now!

>

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > But you are right though. Most people I have ever brought to the

> > > programs do not really want to go to pujas or take part in the

> > > external rituals- first reactions from people are usually along

> the

> > > lines of 'is this really necessary?'. They kind of just go along

> > > with it after some sweet talking - and eventually without knowing

> it

> > > become brainwashed into it I suspect- I know this might sound

> harsh

> > > to some people - just a viewpoint to consider. Even me, I felt I

> was

> > > expected to go with the rest of the sheep otherwise I would not

> > > really be welcome at the meetings. I am not saying there is no

> self

> > > gain by these rituals etc but I think they are just keeping sahaja

> > > yoga a small sect - problem is, when you're in there living it,

> > > ofcourse you don't see it as a sect. I still believe sahaja yoga

> can

> > > be extremely unhealthy for some peoples minds because of all the

> > > things Jagbir has mentioned. My first few weeks were great until

> all

> > > the other stuff got introduced to me gradually confusing me. Few

> > > more months down the line I started to feel disturbed. The

> > > superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if we are to

> > > attract more people and stop them from deteriorating

> > > psychologically. Some people at these meetings carry on like they

> > > are qualified mental health practitioners or doctors haha.....and

> > > the scary part is they don't even realize it half the time. They

> > > issue out all kinds of advice to people with serious conditions

> > > they themselves have never experienced... leading them on to

> believe

> > > their ridiculous treatments will make a major difference... even

> > > cure you. It is a struggle for them to recommend a doctor or

> > > someone who doesn't have a cool breeze emitting from somewhere.

> > > Better to take advice from someone with some cool breeze and no

> > > qualifications than someone with no cool breeze but a lifetime of

> > > professional medical experience.

> > >

> > > Right, better foot-soak with some salt.

> > >

> >

> > Dear devotees of the Great Mother,

> >

> > Namaste - i bow to the Divine Mother who exists within you!

> >

> > i received an email two weeks ago suggesting that we celebrate the

> > Divine Mother. This is what Violet wrote:

> >

> > date: Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM

> > subject: More on the 'Collective Spiritual Birthday'

> >

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > A collective spiritual birthday would be one day in the year, where

> > we collectively celebrate together 'the Self'. We have reason to

> > celebrate our 'Self'. It could be used as a day of celebration 'to

> > the Self', giving praise to the Divine Mother. It would be a nice

> > thing to do.

> >

> > violet (end)

> >

> > i did agree to give some details.

> >

> > Today, after having reading Adam's email (above), i am absolutely

> > convinced that we need to completely disassociate and distance

> > ourselves as far as possible from the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle

> > System Religion). If we do not act now future seekers will always be

> > diseased by this highly contagious SYSSReligion. And Adam has made

> it

> > so clear that the consequences of not acting now is dire:

> >

> > " The superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if we are

> > to attract more people and stop them from deteriorating

> > psychologically. "

> >

> > i cannot agree more, especially his accurate prognosis of people

> > deteriorating psychologically. It has been a long wait for someone

> > brave and honest enough to state the obvious. i knew that for a fact

> > in my early years in Sahaja Yoga. The SYs i was with had all kinds

> of

> > unfounded fears, absurd fanaticism, and unbalanced nature that

> always

> > disturbed my wife and myself .......... even till today! It was the

> > same for all SY collectives. (My brief encounter with the

> > divinesahajayoga forum only reinforced the obvious. And the rare

> > subtle system SY who posts here, sooner or later confirms ifection

> of

> > the SYSSReligion disease. The latest SY who exhibited symptoms of

> > this disease was Anil Kumar.)

> >

> > However, all the while i refrained from stating so as SYs would have

> > just accused me of making it up just to criticize them. Well, today

> > it comes from someone who has stayed in their collectives and became

> > diseased by the SYSSReligion. The good news is that because Adam

> kept

> > occasionally reading the posts at this forum, the disease has not

> > progressed to an advanced stage. The day he leaves this sanctuary of

> > sanity for good, it will probably consume him completely.

> >

> > So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have

> to

> > quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from being

> > diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin daily

> > experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is because this

> > " primordial experience of the Great Mother is the foundation of

> later

> > cultures all over the world. She is like an immense tree, whose

> roots

> > lie beyond the reach of our consciousness, whose branches are all

> the

> > forms of life we know, and whose flowering is a potential within us,

> > a potential that only a tiny handful of the human race has

> realized. " -

> > - Andrew Harvey & Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine

> >

> > i have the following suggestions:

> >

> > i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as " Divine Feminine Day "

> > as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara and met the

> > Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,

> > without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within

> all

> > of us ................. and so does our eternal soul.

> >

> > ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji

> > announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-

> > reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom to spread Her

> > advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or

> > leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)

> >

> > Note: We may celebrate Her in any way we wish - taking a walk in the

> > park; having Kentucky Fried Chicken; meditating in a group; being

> > Silent; reflecting on life/universe; rejoicing and being happy that

> > the time has come for the Resurrection and such a great event we are

> > facing; remembering all the great incarnations; and so forth.

> >

> > iii) We will not label ourselves as any group or organization.

> Instead

> > seekers will be welcome on the promise of enlightenment based

> entirely

> > on their religious background. All we need is do is direct seekers

> to

> > www.adishakti.org and related sites (that are now over 3000

> webpages).

> > Christians can join to follow the teachings of the promised

> Comforter,

> > or merge with the Holy Spirit within, or learn more of Christ's

> > teachings and why those born of the Spirit will feel the Wind.

> Muslims

> > can join to take part in Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection), or check out

> > why so many are feeling the Winds of Qiyamah. Jews may find the

> > Breath of God triggered within humans by the promised Messiah very

> > comforting since it is a Sure Sign revealed in their Torah. Hindus

> > may want to merge with the Adi Shakti within, or awaken their

> > Kundalini, or meditate on Sri Lalita in their Sahasrara. Sikhs may

> > welcome the fact that the Great Mother is the Aykaa Mayee. Others

> may

> > want to join to find out and realize why the Great Mother " is like

> an

> > immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our consciousness,

> > whose branches are all the forms of life we know, and whose

> flowering

> > is a potential within us, a potential that only a tiny handful of

> the

> > human race has realized. " What can we label ourselves thus? Why

> > create divisions and exclusivity? Why not allow everyone the freedom

> > to choose the religious path(s) they feel most comfortable with? Why

> > not let everyone be their own gurus as all the required information

> > is at www.adishakti.org and related websites?

> >

> > iv) Other than Silence on Self--the innermost core of unsurpassed

> > enlightenment in its most simplistic reduction and comprehension--

> > there must be no other emphasis on rules, dress, food, religion,

> guru,

> > leadership, ritual, treatment, penance, idol, pilgrimage, or any

> other

> > human invention to participate in the General Resurrection/evolution

> > from a physical being into the eternal spirit.

> >

> > v) Other than the Divine Feminine, here will be no leaders or gurus

> > to guide. Her incarnation Shri Mataji has given all the knowledge

> > over the last three decades as a compass to get our bearings. The

> > Great Mother not only confirmed the advent and message of Her

> > incarnation through Kash, Arwinder and Lalita, but also fulfilled

> the

> > eschatological expectations of the major religions. And since Shri

> > Mataji has officially resigned and will one day leave us, the future

> > will increasingly be towards the Great Mother.

> >

> > As the Gnostic priest and author Jordan Stratford states:

> >

> > " To be saved from the forces of deception and ignorance (maya in

> > Buddhist parlance) one must attain enlightenment: the direct

> > experiential intimacy with God that is gnosis. This experience is

> the

> > birthright of every aware human person. "

> >

> > That enligtenment has nothing to do with the SYSSReligion and their

> > obsessive, ritualistic chakra-cleansing pettiness and avidya. To rid

> > ourselves of this disease and be saved from these SYSSReligion

> forces

> > of deception and ignorance we will have to celebrate the primordial

> > experience of the Great Mother ........... and daily experience Her

> > in our lives as our innermost Self; the direct experiential intimacy

> > with God that is gnosis. That is Self-realization! Period!

> >

> > regards to all,

> >

> >

> > jagbir

> >

> >

> > Main Entry: ex•pe•ri•en•tial

> > relating to, derived from, or providing experience : empirical

> > <experiential knowledge>

> >

> > Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir and all,

 

Or, maybe even simpler than that; just simply:

 

" Commissioning Day "

 

regards,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " Violet " <violetubb

wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir and all,

>

> If you do not like 'Spiritual Independence Day', here is another idea.

> Shri Mataji commissioned Sahaja Yogis to do the work, and form their

own organisations. i remember in Christianity, it was said that

" Christ commissioned his disciples " to do the work.

>

> Maybe, therefore, this day could have the 'Commissioning' word in

it. These examples are some suggestions:

>

> " SY Commissioning Day "

>

> " The Adi Shakti's Commissioning Day "

>

> " Sahaja Yogis Commissioning Day "

>

> " Sahaja Yoga Commissioning Day "

>

>

> regards,

>

> violet

>

>

>

> , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have

> > > to quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from

> > > being diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin

> > > daily experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is

> > > because this " primordial experience of the Great Mother is the

> > > foundation of later cultures all over the world. She is like an

> > > immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our

> > > consciousness, whose branches are all the forms of life we know,

> > > and whose flowering is a potential within us, a potential that only

> > > a tiny handful of the human race has realized. " - - Andrew Harvey &

> > > Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine

> > >

> > > i have the following suggestions:

> > >

> > > i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as " Divine Feminine Day "

> > > as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara and met the

> > > Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,

> > > without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within

> > > all of us ................. and so does our eternal soul.

> > >

> > > ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji

> > > announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-

> > > reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom to spread Her

> > > advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or

> > > leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)

> > >

> >

> > iii) Every 5th. May will be celebrated as " Sahasrara Day " . All of us

> > are so blessed as the Great Mother has provided proof that Her

> > incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, did open the Sahasrara on May 5

> > 1970 as claimed.

> >

> > Bearing Witness To May 5th. 1970

> > " Jesus' kingdom was not like the popular expectation. He used the

> > phrase " kingdom of God " with a different meaning. His kingdom was not

> > of this world (John 18:36). It was not like the kingdoms of this

> > world. It was the kingdom of God, a supernatural kingdom. It was

> > invisible to most people (John 3:3)—it could not be understood or

> > experienced without the Holy Spirit (v. 6). God is Spirit, and the

> > kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom. " [1]

> >

> > May 5th, 1994, was waited with much anticipation. It was on this day

> > 24 years ago on May 5, 1970 that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, after a

> > sustained meditation into the early hours of the morning, had opened

> > the Sahasrara Chakra (Kingdom of God). She accomplished this awesome

> > feat by immersing Her Lotus Feet in the Indian Ocean, off the coast

> > of Nargol (about 150 miles from Mumbai, India), and entering a state

> > of Supreme Samadhi that has no parallel. It is nothing short of a

> > superhuman feat, beyond anything known to humans.

> >

> > Kash had absolutely no idea of any of the above facts. Neither did

> > his family know any better as they were new to Sahaja yoga. Instead

> > of instructing Kash to ask Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi how She opened

> > the Sahasrara Chakra, his father told him to ask Her how She got Self-

> > Realization!

> >

> > Kash questioned what was the meaning of " Self-Realization " , but was

> > told to get all his answers from the Great Adi Shakti. (Actually

> > Kash's father just casually wanted to get some facts, expecting a

> > short verbal answer. He was totally unprepared for possibly the most

> > spectacular Revelation ever witnessed.)

> >

> > To continue ....

> >

> >

>

http://www.adishakti.org/kingdom_of_god/bearing_witness_to_may_5_1970.htm

> >

> > Note: Please understand that i am very serious about us having

> > nothing to do with the SYSSReligion, WCASY, NIPC, leaders and SYs

> > i.e., the Sahaja Yoga organization. Those siding with them or still

> > sitting on the fence here are requested to leave and join them. The

> > Great Mother must never be associated with the falsehood, corruption,

> > lies, avidya and lack of conscience that is the WCASY-controlled

> > Sahaja Yoga organization. If that is not enough, then all the years

> > of collective abuse, propaganda, and InquiSYtion by WCASY, leaders,

> > and rank and file SYs against Kash, Arwinder, Lalita and myself--just

> > for giving evidence of the Great Mother--should be sufficient. If

> > that is still inadequate then, without question, the Great Mother has

> > nothing to do with all the obsessive rituals, absurd superstition,

> > unhealthy indoctrination and psychological deterioration that the

> > SYSSReligion induces. All this will forever cause future seekers to

> > flee the Sahaja Yoga organization. We must never ever compromise in

> > any way whatsoever, lest we jeopardise future public acceptance of Her

> > advent and message by reason of association with a corrupted and

> > unconscientious organization. May the Adi Shakti within guide us now!

> >

> >

> > , " jagbir singh "

> > <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > But you are right though. Most people I have ever brought to the

> > > > programs do not really want to go to pujas or take part in the

> > > > external rituals- first reactions from people are usually along

> > the

> > > > lines of 'is this really necessary?'. They kind of just go along

> > > > with it after some sweet talking - and eventually without knowing

> > it

> > > > become brainwashed into it I suspect- I know this might sound

> > harsh

> > > > to some people - just a viewpoint to consider. Even me, I felt I

> > was

> > > > expected to go with the rest of the sheep otherwise I would not

> > > > really be welcome at the meetings. I am not saying there is no

> > self

> > > > gain by these rituals etc but I think they are just keeping sahaja

> > > > yoga a small sect - problem is, when you're in there living it,

> > > > ofcourse you don't see it as a sect. I still believe sahaja yoga

> > can

> > > > be extremely unhealthy for some peoples minds because of all the

> > > > things Jagbir has mentioned. My first few weeks were great until

> > all

> > > > the other stuff got introduced to me gradually confusing me. Few

> > > > more months down the line I started to feel disturbed. The

> > > > superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if we are to

> > > > attract more people and stop them from deteriorating

> > > > psychologically. Some people at these meetings carry on like they

> > > > are qualified mental health practitioners or doctors haha.....and

> > > > the scary part is they don't even realize it half the time. They

> > > > issue out all kinds of advice to people with serious conditions

> > > > they themselves have never experienced... leading them on to

> > believe

> > > > their ridiculous treatments will make a major difference... even

> > > > cure you. It is a struggle for them to recommend a doctor or

> > > > someone who doesn't have a cool breeze emitting from somewhere.

> > > > Better to take advice from someone with some cool breeze and no

> > > > qualifications than someone with no cool breeze but a lifetime of

> > > > professional medical experience.

> > > >

> > > > Right, better foot-soak with some salt.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Dear devotees of the Great Mother,

> > >

> > > Namaste - i bow to the Divine Mother who exists within you!

> > >

> > > i received an email two weeks ago suggesting that we celebrate the

> > > Divine Mother. This is what Violet wrote:

> > >

> > > date: Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM

> > > subject: More on the 'Collective Spiritual Birthday'

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir,

> > >

> > > A collective spiritual birthday would be one day in the year, where

> > > we collectively celebrate together 'the Self'. We have reason to

> > > celebrate our 'Self'. It could be used as a day of celebration 'to

> > > the Self', giving praise to the Divine Mother. It would be a nice

> > > thing to do.

> > >

> > > violet (end)

> > >

> > > i did agree to give some details.

> > >

> > > Today, after having reading Adam's email (above), i am absolutely

> > > convinced that we need to completely disassociate and distance

> > > ourselves as far as possible from the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle

> > > System Religion). If we do not act now future seekers will always be

> > > diseased by this highly contagious SYSSReligion. And Adam has made

> > it

> > > so clear that the consequences of not acting now is dire:

> > >

> > > " The superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if we are

> > > to attract more people and stop them from deteriorating

> > > psychologically. "

> > >

> > > i cannot agree more, especially his accurate prognosis of people

> > > deteriorating psychologically. It has been a long wait for someone

> > > brave and honest enough to state the obvious. i knew that for a fact

> > > in my early years in Sahaja Yoga. The SYs i was with had all kinds

> > of

> > > unfounded fears, absurd fanaticism, and unbalanced nature that

> > always

> > > disturbed my wife and myself .......... even till today! It was the

> > > same for all SY collectives. (My brief encounter with the

> > > divinesahajayoga forum only reinforced the obvious. And the rare

> > > subtle system SY who posts here, sooner or later confirms ifection

> > of

> > > the SYSSReligion disease. The latest SY who exhibited symptoms of

> > > this disease was Anil Kumar.)

> > >

> > > However, all the while i refrained from stating so as SYs would have

> > > just accused me of making it up just to criticize them. Well, today

> > > it comes from someone who has stayed in their collectives and became

> > > diseased by the SYSSReligion. The good news is that because Adam

> > kept

> > > occasionally reading the posts at this forum, the disease has not

> > > progressed to an advanced stage. The day he leaves this sanctuary of

> > > sanity for good, it will probably consume him completely.

> > >

> > > So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have

> > to

> > > quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from being

> > > diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin daily

> > > experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is because this

> > > " primordial experience of the Great Mother is the foundation of

> > later

> > > cultures all over the world. She is like an immense tree, whose

> > roots

> > > lie beyond the reach of our consciousness, whose branches are all

> > the

> > > forms of life we know, and whose flowering is a potential within us,

> > > a potential that only a tiny handful of the human race has

> > realized. " -

> > > - Andrew Harvey & Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine

> > >

> > > i have the following suggestions:

> > >

> > > i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as " Divine Feminine Day "

> > > as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara and met the

> > > Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,

> > > without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within

> > all

> > > of us ................. and so does our eternal soul.

> > >

> > > ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji

> > > announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-

> > > reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom to spread Her

> > > advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or

> > > leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)

> > >

> > > Note: We may celebrate Her in any way we wish - taking a walk in the

> > > park; having Kentucky Fried Chicken; meditating in a group; being

> > > Silent; reflecting on life/universe; rejoicing and being happy that

> > > the time has come for the Resurrection and such a great event we are

> > > facing; remembering all the great incarnations; and so forth.

> > >

> > > iii) We will not label ourselves as any group or organization.

> > Instead

> > > seekers will be welcome on the promise of enlightenment based

> > entirely

> > > on their religious background. All we need is do is direct seekers

> > to

> > > www.adishakti.org and related sites (that are now over 3000

> > webpages).

> > > Christians can join to follow the teachings of the promised

> > Comforter,

> > > or merge with the Holy Spirit within, or learn more of Christ's

> > > teachings and why those born of the Spirit will feel the Wind.

> > Muslims

> > > can join to take part in Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection), or check out

> > > why so many are feeling the Winds of Qiyamah. Jews may find the

> > > Breath of God triggered within humans by the promised Messiah very

> > > comforting since it is a Sure Sign revealed in their Torah. Hindus

> > > may want to merge with the Adi Shakti within, or awaken their

> > > Kundalini, or meditate on Sri Lalita in their Sahasrara. Sikhs may

> > > welcome the fact that the Great Mother is the Aykaa Mayee. Others

> > may

> > > want to join to find out and realize why the Great Mother " is like

> > an

> > > immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our consciousness,

> > > whose branches are all the forms of life we know, and whose

> > flowering

> > > is a potential within us, a potential that only a tiny handful of

> > the

> > > human race has realized. " What can we label ourselves thus? Why

> > > create divisions and exclusivity? Why not allow everyone the freedom

> > > to choose the religious path(s) they feel most comfortable with? Why

> > > not let everyone be their own gurus as all the required information

> > > is at www.adishakti.org and related websites?

> > >

> > > iv) Other than Silence on Self--the innermost core of unsurpassed

> > > enlightenment in its most simplistic reduction and comprehension--

> > > there must be no other emphasis on rules, dress, food, religion,

> > guru,

> > > leadership, ritual, treatment, penance, idol, pilgrimage, or any

> > other

> > > human invention to participate in the General Resurrection/evolution

> > > from a physical being into the eternal spirit.

> > >

> > > v) Other than the Divine Feminine, here will be no leaders or gurus

> > > to guide. Her incarnation Shri Mataji has given all the knowledge

> > > over the last three decades as a compass to get our bearings. The

> > > Great Mother not only confirmed the advent and message of Her

> > > incarnation through Kash, Arwinder and Lalita, but also fulfilled

> > the

> > > eschatological expectations of the major religions. And since Shri

> > > Mataji has officially resigned and will one day leave us, the future

> > > will increasingly be towards the Great Mother.

> > >

> > > As the Gnostic priest and author Jordan Stratford states:

> > >

> > > " To be saved from the forces of deception and ignorance (maya in

> > > Buddhist parlance) one must attain enlightenment: the direct

> > > experiential intimacy with God that is gnosis. This experience is

> > the

> > > birthright of every aware human person. "

> > >

> > > That enligtenment has nothing to do with the SYSSReligion and their

> > > obsessive, ritualistic chakra-cleansing pettiness and avidya. To rid

> > > ourselves of this disease and be saved from these SYSSReligion

> > forces

> > > of deception and ignorance we will have to celebrate the primordial

> > > experience of the Great Mother ........... and daily experience Her

> > > in our lives as our innermost Self; the direct experiential intimacy

> > > with God that is gnosis. That is Self-realization! Period!

> > >

> > > regards to all,

> > >

> > >

> > > jagbir

> > >

> > >

> > > Main Entry: ex•pe•ri•en•tial

> > > relating to, derived from, or providing experience : empirical

> > > <experiential knowledge>

> > >

> > > Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Sorry, i have one more suggestion. How about:

 

" The Great Commissioning Day " ?

 

i vaguely remember in Christianity, there was celebrated one day in

the year, which they called " The Great Commissioning Day " . It was when

Christ told his disciples that they " must go into all the world and

preach the Gospel to every creature " .

 

i myself like this one the best, so far.

 

But lets see what you all like.

 

regards,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " Violet " <violetubb

wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir and all,

>

> Or, maybe even simpler than that; just simply:

>

> " Commissioning Day "

>

> regards,

>

> violet

>

>

>

> , " Violet " <violetubb@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir and all,

> >

> > If you do not like 'Spiritual Independence Day', here is another idea.

> > Shri Mataji commissioned Sahaja Yogis to do the work, and form their

> own organisations. i remember in Christianity, it was said that

> " Christ commissioned his disciples " to do the work.

> >

> > Maybe, therefore, this day could have the 'Commissioning' word in

> it. These examples are some suggestions:

> >

> > " SY Commissioning Day "

> >

> > " The Adi Shakti's Commissioning Day "

> >

> > " Sahaja Yogis Commissioning Day "

> >

> > " Sahaja Yoga Commissioning Day "

> >

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> >

> > , " jagbir singh "

> > <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have

> > > > to quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from

> > > > being diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin

> > > > daily experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is

> > > > because this " primordial experience of the Great Mother is the

> > > > foundation of later cultures all over the world. She is like an

> > > > immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our

> > > > consciousness, whose branches are all the forms of life we know,

> > > > and whose flowering is a potential within us, a potential that

only

> > > > a tiny handful of the human race has realized. " - - Andrew Harvey &

> > > > Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine

> > > >

> > > > i have the following suggestions:

> > > >

> > > > i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as " Divine Feminine

Day "

> > > > as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara and

met the

> > > > Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,

> > > > without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within

> > > > all of us ................. and so does our eternal soul.

> > > >

> > > > ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji

> > > > announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-

> > > > reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom to

spread Her

> > > > advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or

> > > > leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)

> > > >

> > >

> > > iii) Every 5th. May will be celebrated as " Sahasrara Day " . All of us

> > > are so blessed as the Great Mother has provided proof that Her

> > > incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, did open the Sahasrara on

May 5

> > > 1970 as claimed.

> > >

> > > Bearing Witness To May 5th. 1970

> > > " Jesus' kingdom was not like the popular expectation. He used the

> > > phrase " kingdom of God " with a different meaning. His kingdom

was not

> > > of this world (John 18:36). It was not like the kingdoms of this

> > > world. It was the kingdom of God, a supernatural kingdom. It was

> > > invisible to most people (John 3:3)—it could not be understood or

> > > experienced without the Holy Spirit (v. 6). God is Spirit, and the

> > > kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom. " [1]

> > >

> > > May 5th, 1994, was waited with much anticipation. It was on this day

> > > 24 years ago on May 5, 1970 that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, after a

> > > sustained meditation into the early hours of the morning, had opened

> > > the Sahasrara Chakra (Kingdom of God). She accomplished this awesome

> > > feat by immersing Her Lotus Feet in the Indian Ocean, off the coast

> > > of Nargol (about 150 miles from Mumbai, India), and entering a state

> > > of Supreme Samadhi that has no parallel. It is nothing short of a

> > > superhuman feat, beyond anything known to humans.

> > >

> > > Kash had absolutely no idea of any of the above facts. Neither did

> > > his family know any better as they were new to Sahaja yoga. Instead

> > > of instructing Kash to ask Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi how She opened

> > > the Sahasrara Chakra, his father told him to ask Her how She got

Self-

> > > Realization!

> > >

> > > Kash questioned what was the meaning of " Self-Realization " , but was

> > > told to get all his answers from the Great Adi Shakti. (Actually

> > > Kash's father just casually wanted to get some facts, expecting a

> > > short verbal answer. He was totally unprepared for possibly the most

> > > spectacular Revelation ever witnessed.)

> > >

> > > To continue ....

> > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.adishakti.org/kingdom_of_god/bearing_witness_to_may_5_1970.htm

> > >

> > > Note: Please understand that i am very serious about us having

> > > nothing to do with the SYSSReligion, WCASY, NIPC, leaders and SYs

> > > i.e., the Sahaja Yoga organization. Those siding with them or still

> > > sitting on the fence here are requested to leave and join them. The

> > > Great Mother must never be associated with the falsehood,

corruption,

> > > lies, avidya and lack of conscience that is the WCASY-controlled

> > > Sahaja Yoga organization. If that is not enough, then all the years

> > > of collective abuse, propaganda, and InquiSYtion by WCASY, leaders,

> > > and rank and file SYs against Kash, Arwinder, Lalita and

myself--just

> > > for giving evidence of the Great Mother--should be sufficient. If

> > > that is still inadequate then, without question, the Great

Mother has

> > > nothing to do with all the obsessive rituals, absurd superstition,

> > > unhealthy indoctrination and psychological deterioration that the

> > > SYSSReligion induces. All this will forever cause future seekers to

> > > flee the Sahaja Yoga organization. We must never ever compromise in

> > > any way whatsoever, lest we jeopardise future public acceptance

of Her

> > > advent and message by reason of association with a corrupted and

> > > unconscientious organization. May the Adi Shakti within guide us

now!

> > >

> > >

> > > , " jagbir singh "

> > > <adishakti_org@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > But you are right though. Most people I have ever brought to the

> > > > > programs do not really want to go to pujas or take part in the

> > > > > external rituals- first reactions from people are usually along

> > > the

> > > > > lines of 'is this really necessary?'. They kind of just go along

> > > > > with it after some sweet talking - and eventually without

knowing

> > > it

> > > > > become brainwashed into it I suspect- I know this might sound

> > > harsh

> > > > > to some people - just a viewpoint to consider. Even me, I felt I

> > > was

> > > > > expected to go with the rest of the sheep otherwise I would not

> > > > > really be welcome at the meetings. I am not saying there is no

> > > self

> > > > > gain by these rituals etc but I think they are just keeping

sahaja

> > > > > yoga a small sect - problem is, when you're in there living it,

> > > > > ofcourse you don't see it as a sect. I still believe sahaja yoga

> > > can

> > > > > be extremely unhealthy for some peoples minds because of all the

> > > > > things Jagbir has mentioned. My first few weeks were great until

> > > all

> > > > > the other stuff got introduced to me gradually confusing me. Few

> > > > > more months down the line I started to feel disturbed. The

> > > > > superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if we

are to

> > > > > attract more people and stop them from deteriorating

> > > > > psychologically. Some people at these meetings carry on like

they

> > > > > are qualified mental health practitioners or doctors

haha.....and

> > > > > the scary part is they don't even realize it half the time. They

> > > > > issue out all kinds of advice to people with serious conditions

> > > > > they themselves have never experienced... leading them on to

> > > believe

> > > > > their ridiculous treatments will make a major difference... even

> > > > > cure you. It is a struggle for them to recommend a doctor or

> > > > > someone who doesn't have a cool breeze emitting from somewhere.

> > > > > Better to take advice from someone with some cool breeze and no

> > > > > qualifications than someone with no cool breeze but a

lifetime of

> > > > > professional medical experience.

> > > > >

> > > > > Right, better foot-soak with some salt.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear devotees of the Great Mother,

> > > >

> > > > Namaste - i bow to the Divine Mother who exists within you!

> > > >

> > > > i received an email two weeks ago suggesting that we celebrate the

> > > > Divine Mother. This is what Violet wrote:

> > > >

> > > > date: Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM

> > > > subject: More on the 'Collective Spiritual Birthday'

> > > >

> > > > Dear Jagbir,

> > > >

> > > > A collective spiritual birthday would be one day in the year,

where

> > > > we collectively celebrate together 'the Self'. We have reason to

> > > > celebrate our 'Self'. It could be used as a day of celebration 'to

> > > > the Self', giving praise to the Divine Mother. It would be a nice

> > > > thing to do.

> > > >

> > > > violet (end)

> > > >

> > > > i did agree to give some details.

> > > >

> > > > Today, after having reading Adam's email (above), i am absolutely

> > > > convinced that we need to completely disassociate and distance

> > > > ourselves as far as possible from the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle

> > > > System Religion). If we do not act now future seekers will

always be

> > > > diseased by this highly contagious SYSSReligion. And Adam has made

> > > it

> > > > so clear that the consequences of not acting now is dire:

> > > >

> > > > " The superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if

we are

> > > > to attract more people and stop them from deteriorating

> > > > psychologically. "

> > > >

> > > > i cannot agree more, especially his accurate prognosis of people

> > > > deteriorating psychologically. It has been a long wait for someone

> > > > brave and honest enough to state the obvious. i knew that for

a fact

> > > > in my early years in Sahaja Yoga. The SYs i was with had all kinds

> > > of

> > > > unfounded fears, absurd fanaticism, and unbalanced nature that

> > > always

> > > > disturbed my wife and myself .......... even till today! It

was the

> > > > same for all SY collectives. (My brief encounter with the

> > > > divinesahajayoga forum only reinforced the obvious. And the rare

> > > > subtle system SY who posts here, sooner or later confirms ifection

> > > of

> > > > the SYSSReligion disease. The latest SY who exhibited symptoms of

> > > > this disease was Anil Kumar.)

> > > >

> > > > However, all the while i refrained from stating so as SYs

would have

> > > > just accused me of making it up just to criticize them. Well,

today

> > > > it comes from someone who has stayed in their collectives and

became

> > > > diseased by the SYSSReligion. The good news is that because Adam

> > > kept

> > > > occasionally reading the posts at this forum, the disease has not

> > > > progressed to an advanced stage. The day he leaves this

sanctuary of

> > > > sanity for good, it will probably consume him completely.

> > > >

> > > > So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have

> > > to

> > > > quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from

being

> > > > diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin daily

> > > > experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is because

this

> > > > " primordial experience of the Great Mother is the foundation of

> > > later

> > > > cultures all over the world. She is like an immense tree, whose

> > > roots

> > > > lie beyond the reach of our consciousness, whose branches are all

> > > the

> > > > forms of life we know, and whose flowering is a potential

within us,

> > > > a potential that only a tiny handful of the human race has

> > > realized. " -

> > > > - Andrew Harvey & Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine

> > > >

> > > > i have the following suggestions:

> > > >

> > > > i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as " Divine Feminine

Day "

> > > > as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara and

met the

> > > > Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,

> > > > without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within

> > > all

> > > > of us ................. and so does our eternal soul.

> > > >

> > > > ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji

> > > > announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-

> > > > reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom to

spread Her

> > > > advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or

> > > > leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)

> > > >

> > > > Note: We may celebrate Her in any way we wish - taking a walk

in the

> > > > park; having Kentucky Fried Chicken; meditating in a group; being

> > > > Silent; reflecting on life/universe; rejoicing and being happy

that

> > > > the time has come for the Resurrection and such a great event

we are

> > > > facing; remembering all the great incarnations; and so forth.

> > > >

> > > > iii) We will not label ourselves as any group or organization.

> > > Instead

> > > > seekers will be welcome on the promise of enlightenment based

> > > entirely

> > > > on their religious background. All we need is do is direct seekers

> > > to

> > > > www.adishakti.org and related sites (that are now over 3000

> > > webpages).

> > > > Christians can join to follow the teachings of the promised

> > > Comforter,

> > > > or merge with the Holy Spirit within, or learn more of Christ's

> > > > teachings and why those born of the Spirit will feel the Wind.

> > > Muslims

> > > > can join to take part in Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection), or

check out

> > > > why so many are feeling the Winds of Qiyamah. Jews may find the

> > > > Breath of God triggered within humans by the promised Messiah very

> > > > comforting since it is a Sure Sign revealed in their Torah. Hindus

> > > > may want to merge with the Adi Shakti within, or awaken their

> > > > Kundalini, or meditate on Sri Lalita in their Sahasrara. Sikhs may

> > > > welcome the fact that the Great Mother is the Aykaa Mayee. Others

> > > may

> > > > want to join to find out and realize why the Great Mother " is like

> > > an

> > > > immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our

consciousness,

> > > > whose branches are all the forms of life we know, and whose

> > > flowering

> > > > is a potential within us, a potential that only a tiny handful of

> > > the

> > > > human race has realized. " What can we label ourselves thus? Why

> > > > create divisions and exclusivity? Why not allow everyone the

freedom

> > > > to choose the religious path(s) they feel most comfortable

with? Why

> > > > not let everyone be their own gurus as all the required

information

> > > > is at www.adishakti.org and related websites?

> > > >

> > > > iv) Other than Silence on Self--the innermost core of unsurpassed

> > > > enlightenment in its most simplistic reduction and comprehension--

> > > > there must be no other emphasis on rules, dress, food, religion,

> > > guru,

> > > > leadership, ritual, treatment, penance, idol, pilgrimage, or any

> > > other

> > > > human invention to participate in the General

Resurrection/evolution

> > > > from a physical being into the eternal spirit.

> > > >

> > > > v) Other than the Divine Feminine, here will be no leaders or

gurus

> > > > to guide. Her incarnation Shri Mataji has given all the knowledge

> > > > over the last three decades as a compass to get our bearings. The

> > > > Great Mother not only confirmed the advent and message of Her

> > > > incarnation through Kash, Arwinder and Lalita, but also fulfilled

> > > the

> > > > eschatological expectations of the major religions. And since Shri

> > > > Mataji has officially resigned and will one day leave us, the

future

> > > > will increasingly be towards the Great Mother.

> > > >

> > > > As the Gnostic priest and author Jordan Stratford states:

> > > >

> > > > " To be saved from the forces of deception and ignorance (maya in

> > > > Buddhist parlance) one must attain enlightenment: the direct

> > > > experiential intimacy with God that is gnosis. This experience is

> > > the

> > > > birthright of every aware human person. "

> > > >

> > > > That enligtenment has nothing to do with the SYSSReligion and

their

> > > > obsessive, ritualistic chakra-cleansing pettiness and avidya.

To rid

> > > > ourselves of this disease and be saved from these SYSSReligion

> > > forces

> > > > of deception and ignorance we will have to celebrate the

primordial

> > > > experience of the Great Mother ........... and daily

experience Her

> > > > in our lives as our innermost Self; the direct experiential

intimacy

> > > > with God that is gnosis. That is Self-realization! Period!

> > > >

> > > > regards to all,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > jagbir

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Main Entry: ex•pe•ri•en•tial

> > > > relating to, derived from, or providing experience : empirical

> > > > <experiential knowledge>

> > > >

> > > > Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Jagbir, Violet and all,

 

i would like to suggest "The Blossom Day"

 

with Love

 

nicole--- On Tue, 11/11/08, Violet <violetubb wrote:

Violet <violetubb Re: i am adding another day ... Please understand that i am very serious about Date: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 2:26 PM

 

 

Dear All,Sorry, i have one more suggestion. How about:"The Great Commissioning Day"?i vaguely remember in Christianity, there was celebrated one day inthe year, which they called "The Great Commissioning Day". It was whenChrist told his disciples that they "must go into all the world andpreach the Gospel to every creature".i myself like this one the best, so far.But lets see what you all like.regards,violetadishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, "Violet" <violetubb@. ..>wrote:>> Dear Jagbir and all,> > Or, maybe even simpler than that; just simply:> > "Commissioning Day"> > regards,> > violet> > > > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, "Violet" <violetubb@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Jagbir and all,> > > > If you do not like 'Spiritual Independence Day', here is another idea.> > Shri Mataji commissioned Sahaja Yogis to do the work, and form their> own organisations. i remember in Christianity, it was said that> "Christ commissioned his disciples" to do the work.> > > > Maybe, therefore, this day could have the 'Commissioning' word in> it. These examples are some suggestions:> > > > "SY Commissioning Day"> > > > "The Adi Shakti's Commissioning Day"> > > > "Sahaja Yogis Commissioning Day"> > > > "Sahaja Yoga Commissioning Day"> > > > > > regards,> > > > violet> > > >

> > > > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, "jagbir singh"> > <adishakti_org@ > wrote:> > >> > > >> > > > So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have> > > > to quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others from> > > > being diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin> > > > daily experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is> > > > because this "primordial experience of the Great Mother is the> > > > foundation of later cultures all over the world. She is like an> > > > immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of our> > > > consciousness, whose branches are all the forms of life we know,> >

> > and whose flowering is a potential within us, a potential thatonly> > > > a tiny handful of the human race has realized.."- - Andrew Harvey & > > > > Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine> > > >> > > > i have the following suggestions:> > > >> > > > i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as "Divine FeminineDay"> > > > as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara andmet the> > > > Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,> > > > without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within> > > > all of us ............ ...... and so does our eternal soul.> > > >> > > > ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji> > > > announced Her retirement and granted all Her

devotees vast, far-> > > > reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom tospread Her> > > > advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or> > > > leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)> > > >> > >> > > iii) Every 5th. May will be celebrated as "Sahasrara Day". All of us> > > are so blessed as the Great Mother has provided proof that Her> > > incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, did open the Sahasrara onMay 5> > > 1970 as claimed.> > >> > > Bearing Witness To May 5th. 1970> > > "Jesus' kingdom was not like the popular expectation. He used the> > > phrase "kingdom of God" with a different meaning. His kingdomwas not> > > of this world (John 18:36). It was not like the kingdoms of this> >

> world. It was the kingdom of God, a supernatural kingdom. It was> > > invisible to most people (John 3:3)—it could not be understood or> > > experienced without the Holy Spirit (v. 6). God is Spirit, and the> > > kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom." [1]> > >> > > May 5th, 1994, was waited with much anticipation. It was on this day> > > 24 years ago on May 5, 1970 that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, after a> > > sustained meditation into the early hours of the morning, had opened> > > the Sahasrara Chakra (Kingdom of God). She accomplished this awesome> > > feat by immersing Her Lotus Feet in the Indian Ocean, off the coast> > > of Nargol (about 150 miles from Mumbai, India), and entering a state> > > of Supreme Samadhi that has no parallel. It is nothing short of a> > > superhuman feat, beyond

anything known to humans.> > >> > > Kash had absolutely no idea of any of the above facts. Neither did> > > his family know any better as they were new to Sahaja yoga. Instead> > > of instructing Kash to ask Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi how She opened> > > the Sahasrara Chakra, his father told him to ask Her how She gotSelf-> > > Realization!> > >> > > Kash questioned what was the meaning of "Self-Realization" , but was> > > told to get all his answers from the Great Adi Shakti.. (Actually> > > Kash's father just casually wanted to get some facts, expecting a> > > short verbal answer. He was totally unprepared for possibly the most> > > spectacular Revelation ever witnessed.)> > >> > > To continue ....> > >> > >> >>http://www.adishakt i.org/kingdom_ of_god/bearing_ witness_to_ may_5_1970. htm> > >> > > Note: Please understand that i am very serious about us having> > > nothing to do with the SYSSReligion, WCASY, NIPC, leaders and SYs> > > i.e., the Sahaja Yoga organization. Those siding with them or still> > > sitting on the fence here are requested to leave and join them. The> > > Great Mother must never be associated with the falsehood,corruption,> > > lies, avidya and lack of conscience that is the WCASY-controlled> > > Sahaja Yoga organization. If that is not enough, then all the years> > > of collective abuse, propaganda, and InquiSYtion by WCASY, leaders,> > > and rank and file SYs against Kash, Arwinder, Lalita

andmyself--just> > > for giving evidence of the Great Mother--should be sufficient. If> > > that is still inadequate then, without question, the GreatMother has> > > nothing to do with all the obsessive rituals, absurd superstition,> > > unhealthy indoctrination and psychological deterioration that the> > > SYSSReligion induces. All this will forever cause future seekers to> > > flee the Sahaja Yoga organization. We must never ever compromise in> > > any way whatsoever, lest we jeopardise future public acceptanceof Her> > > advent and message by reason of association with a corrupted and> > > unconscientious organization. May the Adi Shakti within guide usnow!> > >> > >> > > adishakti_sahaja_

yoga@ .com, "jagbir singh"> > > <adishakti_org@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > > > But you are right though. Most people I have ever brought to the> > > > > programs do not really want to go to pujas or take part in the> > > > > external rituals- first reactions from people are usually along> > > the> > > > > lines of 'is this really necessary?'. They kind of just go along> > > > > with it after some sweet talking - and eventually withoutknowing> > > it> > > > > become brainwashed into it I suspect- I know this might sound> > > harsh> > > > > to some people - just a viewpoint to consider. Even me, I felt I> > > was> > > > > expected to go with the rest of the sheep otherwise I would

not> > > > > really be welcome at the meetings. I am not saying there is no> > > self> > > > > gain by these rituals etc but I think they are just keepingsahaja> > > > > yoga a small sect - problem is, when you're in there living it,> > > > > ofcourse you don't see it as a sect. I still believe sahaja yoga> > > can> > > > > be extremely unhealthy for some peoples minds because of all the> > > > > things Jagbir has mentioned. My first few weeks were great until> > > all> > > > > the other stuff got introduced to me gradually confusing me. Few> > > > > more months down the line I started to feel disturbed. The> > > > > superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly if weare to> > > > > attract more people and stop

them from deteriorating> > > > > psychologically. Some people at these meetings carry on likethey> > > > > are qualified mental health practitioners or doctorshaha.....and> > > > > the scary part is they don't even realize it half the time. They> > > > > issue out all kinds of advice to people with serious conditions> > > > > they themselves have never experienced. .. leading them on to> > > believe> > > > > their ridiculous treatments will make a major difference.. . even> > > > > cure you. It is a struggle for them to recommend a doctor or> > > > > someone who doesn't have a cool breeze emitting from somewhere.> > > > > Better to take advice from someone with some cool breeze and no> > > > > qualifications than someone with no cool breeze but

alifetime of> > > > > professional medical experience.> > > > >> > > > > Right, better foot-soak with some salt.> > > > >> > > >> > > > Dear devotees of the Great Mother,> > > >> > > > Namaste - i bow to the Divine Mother who exists within you!> > > >> > > > i received an email two weeks ago suggesting that we celebrate the> > > > Divine Mother. This is what Violet wrote:> > > >> > > > date: Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:18 PM> > > > subject: More on the 'Collective Spiritual Birthday'> > > >> > > > Dear Jagbir,> > > >> > > > A collective spiritual birthday would be one day in the year,where> > > > we collectively celebrate together 'the

Self'. We have reason to> > > > celebrate our 'Self'. It could be used as a day of celebration 'to> > > > the Self', giving praise to the Divine Mother. It would be a nice> > > > thing to do.> > > >> > > > violet (end)> > > >> > > > i did agree to give some details.> > > >> > > > Today, after having reading Adam's email (above), i am absolutely> > > > convinced that we need to completely disassociate and distance> > > > ourselves as far as possible from the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle> > > > System Religion). If we do not act now future seekers willalways be> > > > diseased by this highly contagious SYSSReligion. And Adam has made> > > it> > > > so clear that the consequences of not acting now is dire:> >

> >> > > > "The superstition in sahaj needs to be eradicated quickly ifwe are> > > > to attract more people and stop them from deteriorating> > > > psychologically. "> > > >> > > > i cannot agree more, especially his accurate prognosis of people> > > > deteriorating psychologically. It has been a long wait for someone> > > > brave and honest enough to state the obvious. i knew that fora fact> > > > in my early years in Sahaja Yoga. The SYs i was with had all kinds> > > of> > > > unfounded fears, absurd fanaticism, and unbalanced nature that> > > always> > > > disturbed my wife and myself .......... even till today! Itwas the> > > > same for all SY collectives. (My brief encounter with the> > > > divinesahajayoga forum

only reinforced the obvious. And the rare> > > > subtle system SY who posts here, sooner or later confirms ifection> > > of> > > > the SYSSReligion disease. The latest SY who exhibited symptoms of> > > > this disease was Anil Kumar.)> > > >> > > > However, all the while i refrained from stating so as SYswould have> > > > just accused me of making it up just to criticize them. Well,today> > > > it comes from someone who has stayed in their collectives andbecame> > > > diseased by the SYSSReligion. The good news is that because Adam> > > kept> > > > occasionally reading the posts at this forum, the disease has not> > > > progressed to an advanced stage. The day he leaves thissanctuary of> > > > sanity for good, it will probably consume him

completely.> > > >> > > > So in order to save ourselves from this SYSSR disease we will have> > > to> > > > quarantine ourselves forever from SYs, and prevent others frombeing> > > > diseased by them. In order to do this, we will have to begin daily> > > > experiencing the Great Mother within us. The reason is becausethis> > > > "primordial experience of the Great Mother is the foundation of> > > later> > > > cultures all over the world. She is like an immense tree, whose> > > roots> > > > lie beyond the reach of our consciousness, whose branches are all> > > the> > > > forms of life we know, and whose flowering is a potentialwithin us,> > > > a potential that only a tiny handful of the human race has> > >

realized."-> > > > - Andrew Harvey & Anne Baring, The Divine Feminine> > > >> > > > i have the following suggestions:> > > >> > > > i) Every 13th. November will be celebrated as "Divine FeminineDay"> > > > as that is the day Kash first entered his own Sahasrara andmet the> > > > Great Mother. Since 13 November 1993 She has given evidence that,> > > > without a shadow of doubt, She exists as pure consciousness within> > > all> > > > of us ............ ..... and so does our eternal soul.> > > >> > > > ii) Every 20th. July will be celebrated as the day Shri Mataji> > > > announced Her retirement and granted all Her devotees vast, far-> > > > reaching and unprecedented powers and absolute freedom tospread Her> >

> > advent and message. We do not need any clearance from any WCASY or> > > > leader anymore. (i would welcome a special name for this day.)> > > >> > > > Note: We may celebrate Her in any way we wish - taking a walkin the> > > > park; having Kentucky Fried Chicken; meditating in a group; being> > > > Silent; reflecting on life/universe; rejoicing and being happythat> > > > the time has come for the Resurrection and such a great eventwe are> > > > facing; remembering all the great incarnations; and so forth.> > > >> > > > iii) We will not label ourselves as any group or organization.> > > Instead> > > > seekers will be welcome on the promise of enlightenment based> > > entirely> > > > on their religious background. All we need is do is

direct seekers> > > to> > > > www.adishakti. org and related sites (that are now over 3000> > > webpages).> > > > Christians can join to follow the teachings of the promised> > > Comforter,> > > > or merge with the Holy Spirit within, or learn more of Christ's> > > > teachings and why those born of the Spirit will feel the Wind.> > > Muslims> > > > can join to take part in Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection) , orcheck out> > > > why so many are feeling the Winds of Qiyamah. Jews may find the> > > > Breath of God triggered within humans by the promised Messiah very> > > > comforting since it is a Sure Sign revealed in their Torah. Hindus> > > > may want to merge with the Adi Shakti within, or awaken their> > > > Kundalini, or meditate on Sri Lalita

in their Sahasrara. Sikhs may> > > > welcome the fact that the Great Mother is the Aykaa Mayee. Others> > > may> > > > want to join to find out and realize why the Great Mother "is like> > > an> > > > immense tree, whose roots lie beyond the reach of ourconsciousness,> > > > whose branches are all the forms of life we know, and whose> > > flowering> > > > is a potential within us, a potential that only a tiny handful of> > > the> > > > human race has realized." What can we label ourselves thus? Why> > > > create divisions and exclusivity? Why not allow everyone thefreedom> > > > to choose the religious path(s) they feel most comfortablewith? Why> > > > not let everyone be their own gurus as all the requiredinformation> > > > is

at www.adishakti. org and related websites?> > > >> > > > iv) Other than Silence on Self--the innermost core of unsurpassed> > > > enlightenment in its most simplistic reduction and comprehension- -> > > > there must be no other emphasis on rules, dress, food, religion,> > > guru,> > > > leadership, ritual, treatment, penance, idol, pilgrimage, or any> > > other> > > > human invention to participate in the GeneralResurrection/ evolution> > > > from a physical being into the eternal spirit.> > > >> > > > v) Other than the Divine Feminine, here will be no leaders orgurus> > > > to guide. Her incarnation Shri Mataji has given all the knowledge> > > > over the last three decades as a compass to get our bearings. The> > > > Great Mother

not only confirmed the advent and message of Her> > > > incarnation through Kash, Arwinder and Lalita, but also fulfilled> > > the> > > > eschatological expectations of the major religions. And since Shri> > > > Mataji has officially resigned and will one day leave us, thefuture> > > > will increasingly be towards the Great Mother.> > > >> > > > As the Gnostic priest and author Jordan Stratford states:> > > >> > > > "To be saved from the forces of deception and ignorance (maya in> > > > Buddhist parlance) one must attain enlightenment: the direct> > > > experiential intimacy with God that is gnosis. This experience is> > > the> > > > birthright of every aware human person."> > > >> > > > That enligtenment has nothing to

do with the SYSSReligion andtheir> > > > obsessive, ritualistic chakra-cleansing pettiness and avidya.To rid> > > > ourselves of this disease and be saved from these SYSSReligion> > > forces> > > > of deception and ignorance we will have to celebrate theprimordial> > > > experience of the Great Mother ........... and dailyexperience Her> > > > in our lives as our innermost Self; the direct experientialintimacy> > > > with God that is gnosis. That is Self-realization! Period!> > > >> > > > regards to all,> > > >> > > >> > > > jagbir> > > >> > > >> > > > Main Entry: ex•pe•ri•en•tial> > > > relating to, derived from, or providing experience : empirical> > > >

<experiential knowledge>> > > >> > > > Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary> > > >> > >> >>

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