Guest guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 > > Only the truth will ensure its survival, and that truth is being > ever-increasingly revaled at these sites: > > www.adi-shakti.org/ — Divine Feminine (Hinduism) > www.holyspirit-shekinah.org/ — Divine Feminine (Christianity) > www.ruach-elohim.org/ — Divine Feminine (Judaism) > www.ruh-allah.org/ — Divine Feminine (Islam) > www.tao-mother.org/ — Divine Feminine (Taoism) > www.prajnaaparamita.org/ — Divine Feminine (Buddhism) > www.aykaa-mayee.org/ — Divine Feminine (Sikhism) > www.great-spirit-mother.org/ — Divine Feminine (Native Traditions) > > As i keep saying, time is on Her side and ours too. All we need is > to be patient and wait. Reality test for SY is meagre past advances, > present stagnation and obvious future demise. The physical Shri > Mataji has said farewell, and we have all the knowledge, evidence, > revelations and faith to welcome the eternal Divine Feminine within. > However, Shri Mataji did say She will establish Sahaja Yoga before > She leaves. She never meant " Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion'. > (From Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA) Interviewer: ShriMataji, You are called " Mother. " And, it seems in the Hindu tradition there's a special context or meaning of the word " Mother. " What is this meaning? Shri Mataji: " You see, in the Indian philosophy, even in the Christian philosophy it is so, but it has been little bit changed. If you read the books of Essene, you will find they have described the " Mother. " You see, the Holy Ghost is the Mother. When they say about the Holy Ghost, She is the Mother. But how can you have… You must reason it out. How can you have a father and a son without a mother? [laughter] It's a, you see, simple thing like that. You see, so it's the Mother only. Holy Ghost is very important. So, Holy Ghost is the Mother, you see. It's absurd thing, I mean, to have such a thing. Even homosexuals cannot have children. It's funny thing, isn't it. Absolutely absurd! But Christians accepted this. I don't know why. Why didn't they go into find out what is this Holy Ghost business is? They said, " It's a mystery. " How can you say it's a mystery? When you cannot explain then better not say anything about it. So, Holy Ghost is something hanging in the air. No one knows; it's a mystery, and the rest of it is the father and the son. It's absurd! Now, the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture - has to be there. Now, the Mother's character is that She is the One who is the Womb, She is the One who is the Mother Earth and She is the One who nourishes you. She nourishes us, you know that. And, this feminine thing in every human being resides as this Kundalini, as you have seen. And, when She rises, She gives you this new awareness which becomes compassion, which is flowing, which becomes soothing, nourishing energy of love. " Shri Mataji Radio Interview 1983 Oct 01, Santa Cruz USA Note: Despite Shri Mataji saying way back in 1983 that the Mother is in every scripture nothing was done by leaders and SYs alike to search and quote the Torah, Bible, Qur'an, Guru Granth Sahib, Puranas, Upanishads, and other scriptures to support Her, as has been the case on most of Her crucial issues - Adi Shakti, Holy Spirit, Resurrection, Last Judgment, Qiyamah, Comforter, Jesus, Blossom Time, announce it to all the nations, and so forth. Nobody bothered to check all the Holy Scriptures and synthesize their findings with Her advent and message. i have never come across any case of a guru's teachings being so edited out/watered down by devotees. Just check the official www.sahajayoga.org website and you will know what i mean. On the contrary, gurus with far lesser status have had so much success with disciples reseaching his or her teachings and spreading their findings with great zeal and valour. But when you realize that Shri Mataji is shakshat the incarnation of the Adi Shakti, not just another guru, words fail to express the magnitude and scale of this collective failure and lack of common sense to comprehend the most crucial aspects of Shri Mataji's advent and message. And that it spans more than three decades--in the face of constant, ceaseless and consistent failure of countless SYSSReligion public programs the world over--only makes this all the more incomprehensible. That sad, disgraceful and humiliating past has been mercifully ended by Shri Mataji on July 20, 2008. It is such a relief. We can now freely talk and enlighten others about the Great Mother entrenched in all the Holy Scriptures, a truth that few believed when it was first realized by me years ago. (And the revelation of the Aykaa Mayee made me realize how instrumental and effective religious institutions have been in suppressing the Great Mother - The Divine Feminine.) We are thus so fortunate to have the foresight and common sense in obtaining the various domain names that will over the years filfill Her vision and revelation that " the principle of Mother is in every, every scripture - has to be there. " i never knew Shri Mataji had made this statement ........ till yesterday. Looking back, i again feel vindicated to have stood fast for so many years against the WCASY- controlled and influenced SY organization. It is such a blessing to be freed from their SYSSReligion and become enlightened by the Divine Feminine from within ........... and we need more people like that: Question: " What do you give, provide the definition of enlightenment? " Shri Mataji: " Enlightened means a personality, enlightened personality, I can tell you, is a person who is beyond his mind. And he is in contact completely with this all-pervading power of divine love. As a result everything in that person is guided, helped by that divine love. That power is so great that it looks after you, it organizes everything, it thinks, it understands, it is wisdom of all the things. You become a person who is so collectively conscious. Today we need people like that. " Shri Mataji Press Conference (London '99) ------------------------------ Reality test for SY: meagre past advances, present stagnation and obvious future demise Hi Pallawi, Welcome back to the forum. i can answer your question: i) yes, we are well aware of that link " Reality Test for Sahaja Yogis by Simon " . You should realize that it was uploaded 14 September 1999, before www.adishakti.org came online on 1-1-2000; " This site is thus also an open book and challenge to all guardians of religious regimes — priests, pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs, shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins, acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas — to rebut and prove Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Divine Message false. Skeptics, atheists or any anti-cult organization, especially those specializing in busting fake gurus and false claims, are most welcome. " So far there have been no takers! The offficial SY website http://sahajayoga.org need not carry this challenge because it is only about a Hindu guru teaching about Self-realization. Many of those who joined in the 1980s/90s, and later realized Shri Mataji was claiming Herself to be the Adi Shakti etc., left and a few began to attack it. This snapshot of UK SY figures of the early 2000s cannot be applied for 2008 as the numbers have further dwindled. (Even Shri Mataji has lamented on this sustained decline as UK is the bastion where She began preaching Her message to humanity.) " I recently saw something about the figures of people in SY in the UK, something like 500, I must say this figure is probably correct which if so is very low, most of these are also London based the biggest meeting place at least in the UK, it is also apparent that there are large gaps in the domestic area, some areas have only a handful of followers others have none at all, the point is there has been very little if any change in dedicated followers over the past few years despite what they are saying. As far as recruitment goes then it is at a all time low ebb, follow ups from the last Albert Hall meeting were very poor as well and these meetings dis-jointed, a high percentage of people leave after only a few meetings, either bored with it or not the social activity they first imagined, so I feel that yes it is clinging on to past figures, they just press on regardless recruiting people if they can, but alas not very successfully, given also the amount of people who after quite a long time in it are also seeing the real truth behind it and leaving. " Barry Clay, UK, Sat Oct 11, 2003 ii) Simon has resigned from attacking Shri Mataji effective Jun 19, 2008. " I'm 43 in a couple of days I was in SY for 6 years, had 7 off and then exposed it for 11, most recently on Wikipedia But enough's enough, so I'm disengaging now. any friendly folks are free to contact me, from whatever side of the 'great divide' I hope you all find what you're looking for. Best, Simon Dicon " talk-about-sahaja-yoga/message/15918 i know that this forum/websites were instrumental in ending Simon's hostilities, just as it has been for other anti-SYs. i don't blame them for attacking the SY organization because i too would have done so for its false front that misleads humanity and keeps them from participating in the promised Last Judgment and Resurrection. i sometimes even see the anti-SY websites in a positive light as they kept the SY organization, specifically with the birth of the internet, almost non-existent i.e., in a survival mode. People nowadays can quickly determine, albeit wrongly, from official SY sites that it is only a subtle system organization run by a Hindu guru. The same goes for Sahaja Yoga's ever dwindling, almost empty and boring subtle system/kundalini/chakra meditation classes. Given the meagre past advances, present stagnation and obvious future demise of SY, we have a great opportunity to easily overcome this dishonest organization and spread the advent and message of Shri Mataji in its entirety. It would have been much more difficult if the SY organization had, say, 5-10 million members ...... and growing. Now it is less than 100,000 members ...... and stagnant/shrinking. Only the truth will ensure its survival, and that truth is being ever- increasingly revaled at these sites: www.adi-shakti.org/ — Divine Feminine (Hinduism) www.holyspirit-shekinah.org/ — Divine Feminine (Christianity) www.ruach-elohim.org/ — Divine Feminine (Judaism) www.ruh-allah.org/ — Divine Feminine (Islam) www.tao-mother.org/ — Divine Feminine (Taoism) www.prajnaaparamita.org/ — Divine Feminine (Buddhism) www.aykaa-mayee.org/ — Divine Feminine (Sikhism) www.great-spirit-mother.org/ — Divine Feminine (Native Traditions) As i keep saying, time is on Her side and ours too. All we need is to be patient and wait. Reality test for SY is meagre past advances, present stagnation and obvious future demise. The physical Shri Mataji has said farewell, and we have all the knowledge, evidence, revelations and faith to welcome the eternal Divine Feminine within. However, Shri Mataji did say She will establish Sahaja Yoga before She leaves. She never meant " Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion'. regards, jagbir , pallawi <pallawip wrote: > > Hi, >       I have been away from this forum for a quite long time and therefore I don't know if you people have come across thing like this before. >  > Just browsing the web I came across this- http://www.kheper.net/topics/gurus/sahaja-test.html >  > I look forward for all your comments. >  > jsm >  > regs > Pallawi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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