Guest guest Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Dear All, We concluded with the following: " There are millions of seekers in the world, so forget about such relationships. They may call you 'mad' or 'crazy' or anything, but they will realise one thing: that you lead a much better life than they do. You are much more peaceful, blissful, dharmic and sane but they won't accept your life. Play around with them, with the understanding that they cannot change. Even if they change mentally, they cannot have that urge, because to a seeker nothing is important, except seeking. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Chelsham Road, London, England, 24 May, 1981 When Shri Mataji concluded Her talk, two more questions were asked, and Shri Mataji answered them. Here they are. regards, violet QUESTION 1: " What about the people who are good people, not seekers, but who have got realisation but don't seem to see the significance of Sahaja yoga? " Shri Mataji: " They will go out of circulation. Sahaja Yoga rejects more than [it] accepts. It is a judgement going on. Such people will go out of realisation. You can talk to them of realisation, give them bandhans, etc., for they are the people in whom you could be interested, but they are lost otherwise. For example, butter is made out of curd, by churning. A little butter comes out and the rest is butter-milk. To separate it, a big lump of butter is put in the butter-milk and when it is churned, all the butter gets around that big lump and gathers into a larger lump of butter. But some butter particles are left behind. If they do not stick to the larger lump of butter, they are thrown away with [the] butter-milk. So, those who do not come to Sahaja Yoga and are not up to the mark, will be thrown out. It is a fact, but you should have 'nirpekshita', i.e., you should have no attachment to such people. [Folks, this is the Blossom Time, the Flowering Time, and the Harvest Time has come. It is a cycle in human evolution. The Wheat goes into the Barns, and the Chaff gets left behind. Those are all the metaphors that describe the Resurrection and Last Judgment Time. It is a Reality that is happening now. On the external level, the world seems to be " going to pot " [pun not intended] but on the internal, spiritual level, people are having their spiritual transformation and experiencing Love, Peace, Joy, Bliss, due to their entry into the Kingdom of God within, as talked about in all the scriptures. Shri Mataji says that She has made this Reaping Time/Harvest Time Message into a beautiful message, and not into a horrible thing, like some of the religions have done. Without the Adi Shakti's continuing clarification of Christ's Last Judgment and Resurrection Message, humanity would remain in spiritual ignorance. They would not know what is really happening all around us now, with the external world seemingly " going to pot " and many calamities are befalling people, like never seen before. It is the cycle we have entered. The only thing that can save humanity is to turn to their Spirit, to become their Spirit! Taking the metaphor further, those who haven't become beautiful Grains of Wheat, but are more like the Chaff, will have to wait for the next Harvest Time, because " what a person sows, they will reap " , and this is the Time of Reaping what one has sowed, through many lifetimes. It is only the beautiful Wheat that will go in the Barn of the Heavenly Father. He won't accept any Chaff. So, this message is especially poignant at this Harvest Time, for which the Resurrection and Last Judgment Message has been renewed and reminded to us. Shri Mataji says that you only judge yourself, after you have been resurrected through Kundalini Awakening - so the Resurrection comes first, and then you judge yourself. Your hands speak to you and tell you where you need to rectify yourself. If you heed your own judgment within, your Resurrection will remain assured! Even better, if you turn to the Divine Mother/Higher Self within and surrender to Her, you will be safe from all calamities, within and without! Even your external Reality will become beautiful, when it reflects your True, Spiritual, Internal Reality!] Question 2: (Shri Mataji answers in response to a question. The question, itself, has not been given): Shri Mataji: The question is that the psychologists say that [the] mind is limited, i.e., whatever the mind does, is limited [that] whatever action we perform, is done through [the] mind only, and this mind has limited energy, and so it cannot take you to the unlimited. So, something has to be, which is beyond the control of the mind, that is the only 'spontaneous' thing. Now, see the confusion! But their question can be answered on [the] mental level. What is the basic difference between Divine and human? How to convince ordinary humans of Sahaja Yoga and the Divine? They are doubting you, as you are doubting them. The simple answer is that whatever you do with your mind, like shouting, howling, jumping, etc., can be done by the " limited " mind. So one who is doing [so], is some human agency; some human being, and not the Divine. But you cannot make your Kundalini pulsate with your mind. The Divine, if it has to do something, it must be extra-ordinary, which human beings cannot do. To pulsate Kundalini is only possible for the Divine. It is a living force. Man makes things--dead things. Man can do dead actions, but a living force cannot be activated. What is the need to go to the gurus if they make you do the limited actions of the mind? You can always shout, howl and jump without them. But you cannot make the Kundalini pulsate. Divine does something which you cannot do. You cannot make the cool breezes flow from your hand. So, if you go beyond the mind it has to be something extra-ordinary; something different. The limited and the unlimited are two different dimensions. This is the secret of your Mother's 'Maya', that I live on [the] unlimited [dimension] and do unlimited things. That is how I create 'Maya'. You can know me only through knowing your vibratory awareness. If you put your hand on the head of someone, nobody can make you shake. So the Divine force is something that human beings cannot do, through their mind. I repeat: " You cannot pulsate the Kundalini. " It is a living force and [the] human being cannot create or generate life. They cannot make the pupil dilate, when the Kundalini goes up. As ordinary humans and so-called gurus cannot feel the vibrations, you cannot talk of the vibratory awareness to them, but you can see [it], with your naked eyes. They cannot make the cool breeze come out of your head. This is something extra-ordinary. What I can do with the limited, is make myself. I can also do [the] unlimited. That is the side of the Divine Mother. In the same way, you are limited now, but you have jumped into the unlimited. So you can do all these things. That is why you are saints. The things you can do in the unlimited, you could not have done before realisation. You start doing something that you could not have done before, i.e., to raise your Kundalini and [the Kundalini] of the people. The gurus, so-called, can shout, howl, jump and do all these things, but they cannot raise the Kundalini of the people. All other things, we can say are arbitrary; subjective. Then [upon raising the Kundalini] you will get your cure, change your mental attitude and all that. May God Bless you! Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Formal Talk - 'Subconscious, Supraconscious and our correct Foundations and Ideals' Chelsham Road, London, England 24 May, 1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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