How our Divine Mother describes God’s Realization in Her talks?_THANK YOU!

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU FOR THIS POSTING!!!!!!!

 

It is so beautiful. I am speechless. My pure desire is everybody

who desires it to acquire it.

 

Love,

Veni

 

, " Violet "

<violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Veni and All,

>

> Here are some things i've found where Shri Mataji mentions about

God realization.

>

> Enjoy,

>

> violet

>

>

>

> [shri Mataji, talking about God realization]:

>

> I told you, in Sahaja Yoga, how you go into the state of

thoughtless awareness. After the unison with the Spirit (Tadatmya)

one can attain the stage of vicinity with God (Samipya) and the God

realization (Salokya). But on achieving the unity with the Spirit, a

person's interest itself changes.

>

> Just by achieving the state of unison with the Spirit, with it's

experience, a person does not wish to go into the state of Salokya

and Samipya. That means, when vibrations start flowing into your

hands and when you feel other's Kundalini and can raise other's

Kundalini, your Chitta (attention) goes towards watching other's

Kundalini and understanding your own. You want to be alert about your

chakras and understand other's chakras.

>

> If you look at the sky, you may see--even though there are clouds-

you will see many types of Kundalinis. Because, now that your

attention has gone to Kundalini, whatever you want to know about

Kundalini, whatever you want to see, whatever desires you have, these

will be revealed to you. Your interest in Kundalini grows and all

other interests are lost.

>

> Try to understand thus: As you enter youth, leaving behind the

childhood, you have the interests of young age i.e. your service,

business, family etc.; you take interest only in these and all other

childhood interests drop off; old experiences fade away and your

attention goes towards new experiences. Or try to understand this

way: Say, a person is not interested in music, and somehow he has

become interested--he is interested in classical music--then he is

not going to enjoy any other music, let there be any concert of non-

classical music.

>

> Your condition in Sahaja Yoga should also be similar. As regards

your other habits and likings, the fact is that they were gradually

and intentionally cultivated and hence those interests are deeply

imbibed in you. Sahaja Yoga has brought about a complete

transformation within you--you have come into a state of new

awareness, you can now feel the vibrations and other's Kundalini, you

can give realization to many people, you have cured many people, you

have entered into a new power and you are charged with it.

>

> But in doing all this there is only one shortcoming, and that

is " you have not made any effort and everything has happened by

itself, effortlessly " . Perhaps that's the reason why although many

people receive vibrations in Sahaja Yoga and also rise to a level,

even then their attention never stabilises on Paramatma, Atma,

Kundalini, and repeatedly it goes to wrong things.

>

> You had asked, " What to do after getting the realization " . After

receiving you must give. It is absolutely necessary to give after

receiving, otherwise receiving has no meaning. And while giving, one

point--only one small point, must be kept in mind, " That the body,

the mind (manas), the intellect (buddhi)--that means the 'whole

personality' with which you are giving such an incomparable thing,

that itself should be very beautiful; your being should be very

clean. There should be no disease in it. If you have any sickness--

perhaps there may be some Sahaja yogis having diseases. Before coming

to Sahaja Yoga you must be getting worried and wishing that the

disease should be somehow cured. But thereafter, the attention would

not be on the sickness and you would be saying, " it will be alright,

does not matter. " But it [the disease] is wrong. Whatever may be your

problem, even minor, you can cure yourself by placing your hand on

that spot, you can keep your physical side very clean. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Bombay, India, 27 May, 1976.

>

>

>

>

> [Here Shri Mataji associates Self realization with God realization]:

>

> " Actually, thank God they have found out now the book written by

Thomas who has described Gnostic way of life, where gnya means 'to

know.' In Sanskrit language, gnya means 'to know,' gnya. So he has

described very nicely the gnostic life. This was the Gnostic Bible,

or whatever we call it, saying about a personal experience of

achieving God realization, self realization. It talks about Sahaja

Yoga out and out. Thomas on his way to India, went to Egypt and there

he has put this in a big vessel of some metal. Thank God it was done

in Egypt, otherwise in any other place they would have used it for

some other purpose. And already it would have been perverted. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Christmas Puja, Pune, India - 25/12/87.

>

>

>

>

> [Here's a letter where Shri Mataji says people's attention should

be drawn towards God realization]:

>

> Many blessings,

>

> ,,Received your Rakhis conveying your deep love. Rakhi is

protecting power. It's bond is very strong and extremely tender

because it symbolizes the noble love of sister. , Customarily, tying

a Rakhi to someone is establishing a place of pure protection.

However, man's ability to understand love has become so feeble that

tying of Rakhi has become merely a mechanical process. All beautiful

human traditions become lifeless and dry formalities if there is no

warmth of faith in them.

>

> I have taken birth in this world in the binding of Sahaja Yogis and

have been moving around only in their binding. I am desireless and

hence my everything depends upon your desires.

>

> You have to ask something with Rakhi. Please consult all Sahaja

Yogis and ask what you want by writing a collective letter.

>

> I am keeping good health because you are desiring it. There will be

only minor operation on my ear and it should not make you anxious at

all. Moreover, I have no trouble whatsoever. So do not worry.

>

> Rakhi Purnima is a day of great significance. On that day you

should ask for perfection, make big decisions and keep attention on

high ideals. Sahaja Yogis should not destroy their attention on

trifle issues. Lot of work has yet to be done. Those Sahaja Yogis who

have progressed should get busy. New centres should be opened. People

should be cured of their diseases and their attention should be drawn

towards God realization. Please show this letter to all Sahaja Yogis.

>

> Always remembering you -

> Your Mother

> Nirmala

>

> 17.8.78 Letter

> Translation of Her Holiness Mataji's Marathi letters

> of 17th August 1978

>

>

>

> , " veni_grig "

> <veni_grig@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir, Violet and All,

> >

> > How our Divine Mother describes God's Realization in Her talks?

> > Can you, please, post extracts of Her talks on this topic for us?

> > Thanks a lot for your priceless work.

> > Have a day full of Pure Divine Love, Joy and Peace.

> >

> > With unconditional Love,

> > Veni

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Veni,

 

Yes, " everybody who desires it, to acquire it " . So, we have to draw

people's attention to God realization, which can only come through

Sahaja Yoga, i.e., " Union with the Divine Within " . Jagbir has told us

many times, just to let people know the sites, so they can read the

Good News for themselves and have their Self realisation, which is

really a God realization-----but that still takes time to realize even

with Self realization. It requires becoming the Spirit. It requires

that transformation of consciousness, to the Divine, to the Individual

Mother within. As Shri Mataji says, it is about giving what one has

received. i know that as a person 'gives', they also 'receive'. One

cannot sit on what one receives, or it goes down. There has to be a

flow, as you know. Whatever we have been given, we can share with others. We are

all a part and parcel of the Whole. As a part and parcel of the Whole, we

experience the Whole. That does not mean we experience the whole of the Whole,

but we experience the Whole. It is a journey, that never ends, but continues,

because it is Life Itself, and as the Spirit, we never die, but go on and on and

on....

 

love from violet

 

 

, " veni_grig "

<veni_grig wrote:

>

> THANK YOU FOR THIS POSTING!!!!!!!

>

> It is so beautiful. I am speechless. My pure desire is everybody

> who desires it to acquire it.

>

> Love,

> Veni

>

> , " Violet "

> <violetubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Veni and All,

> >

> > Here are some things i've found where Shri Mataji mentions about

> God realization.

> >

> > Enjoy,

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> >

> > [shri Mataji, talking about God realization]:

> >

> > I told you, in Sahaja Yoga, how you go into the state of

> thoughtless awareness. After the unison with the Spirit (Tadatmya)

> one can attain the stage of vicinity with God (Samipya) and the God

> realization (Salokya). But on achieving the unity with the Spirit, a

> person's interest itself changes.

> >

> > Just by achieving the state of unison with the Spirit, with it's

> experience, a person does not wish to go into the state of Salokya

> and Samipya. That means, when vibrations start flowing into your

> hands and when you feel other's Kundalini and can raise other's

> Kundalini, your Chitta (attention) goes towards watching other's

> Kundalini and understanding your own. You want to be alert about your

> chakras and understand other's chakras.

> >

> > If you look at the sky, you may see--even though there are clouds-

> you will see many types of Kundalinis. Because, now that your

> attention has gone to Kundalini, whatever you want to know about

> Kundalini, whatever you want to see, whatever desires you have, these

> will be revealed to you. Your interest in Kundalini grows and all

> other interests are lost.

> >

> > Try to understand thus: As you enter youth, leaving behind the

> childhood, you have the interests of young age i.e. your service,

> business, family etc.; you take interest only in these and all other

> childhood interests drop off; old experiences fade away and your

> attention goes towards new experiences. Or try to understand this

> way: Say, a person is not interested in music, and somehow he has

> become interested--he is interested in classical music--then he is

> not going to enjoy any other music, let there be any concert of non-

> classical music.

> >

> > Your condition in Sahaja Yoga should also be similar. As regards

> your other habits and likings, the fact is that they were gradually

> and intentionally cultivated and hence those interests are deeply

> imbibed in you. Sahaja Yoga has brought about a complete

> transformation within you--you have come into a state of new

> awareness, you can now feel the vibrations and other's Kundalini, you

> can give realization to many people, you have cured many people, you

> have entered into a new power and you are charged with it.

> >

> > But in doing all this there is only one shortcoming, and that

> is " you have not made any effort and everything has happened by

> itself, effortlessly " . Perhaps that's the reason why although many

> people receive vibrations in Sahaja Yoga and also rise to a level,

> even then their attention never stabilises on Paramatma, Atma,

> Kundalini, and repeatedly it goes to wrong things.

> >

> > You had asked, " What to do after getting the realization " . After

> receiving you must give. It is absolutely necessary to give after

> receiving, otherwise receiving has no meaning. And while giving, one

> point--only one small point, must be kept in mind, " That the body,

> the mind (manas), the intellect (buddhi)--that means the 'whole

> personality' with which you are giving such an incomparable thing,

> that itself should be very beautiful; your being should be very

> clean. There should be no disease in it. If you have any sickness--

> perhaps there may be some Sahaja yogis having diseases. Before coming

> to Sahaja Yoga you must be getting worried and wishing that the

> disease should be somehow cured. But thereafter, the attention would

> not be on the sickness and you would be saying, " it will be alright,

> does not matter. " But it [the disease] is wrong. Whatever may be your

> problem, even minor, you can cure yourself by placing your hand on

> that spot, you can keep your physical side very clean. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Bombay, India, 27 May, 1976.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Here Shri Mataji associates Self realization with God realization]:

> >

> > " Actually, thank God they have found out now the book written by

> Thomas who has described Gnostic way of life, where gnya means 'to

> know.' In Sanskrit language, gnya means 'to know,' gnya. So he has

> described very nicely the gnostic life. This was the Gnostic Bible,

> or whatever we call it, saying about a personal experience of

> achieving God realization, self realization. It talks about Sahaja

> Yoga out and out. Thomas on his way to India, went to Egypt and there

> he has put this in a big vessel of some metal. Thank God it was done

> in Egypt, otherwise in any other place they would have used it for

> some other purpose. And already it would have been perverted. "

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Christmas Puja, Pune, India - 25/12/87.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Here's a letter where Shri Mataji says people's attention should

> be drawn towards God realization]:

> >

> > Many blessings,

> >

> > ,,Received your Rakhis conveying your deep love. Rakhi is

> protecting power. It's bond is very strong and extremely tender

> because it symbolizes the noble love of sister. , Customarily, tying

> a Rakhi to someone is establishing a place of pure protection.

> However, man's ability to understand love has become so feeble that

> tying of Rakhi has become merely a mechanical process. All beautiful

> human traditions become lifeless and dry formalities if there is no

> warmth of faith in them.

> >

> > I have taken birth in this world in the binding of Sahaja Yogis and

> have been moving around only in their binding. I am desireless and

> hence my everything depends upon your desires.

> >

> > You have to ask something with Rakhi. Please consult all Sahaja

> Yogis and ask what you want by writing a collective letter.

> >

> > I am keeping good health because you are desiring it. There will be

> only minor operation on my ear and it should not make you anxious at

> all. Moreover, I have no trouble whatsoever. So do not worry.

> >

> > Rakhi Purnima is a day of great significance. On that day you

> should ask for perfection, make big decisions and keep attention on

> high ideals. Sahaja Yogis should not destroy their attention on

> trifle issues. Lot of work has yet to be done. Those Sahaja Yogis who

> have progressed should get busy. New centres should be opened. People

> should be cured of their diseases and their attention should be drawn

> towards God realization. Please show this letter to all Sahaja Yogis.

> >

> > Always remembering you -

> > Your Mother

> > Nirmala

> >

> > 17.8.78 Letter

> > Translation of Her Holiness Mataji's Marathi letters

> > of 17th August 1978

> >

> >

> >

> > , " veni_grig "

> > <veni_grig@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jagbir, Violet and All,

> > >

> > > How our Divine Mother describes God's Realization in Her talks?

> > > Can you, please, post extracts of Her talks on this topic for us?

> > > Thanks a lot for your priceless work.

> > > Have a day full of Pure Divine Love, Joy and Peace.

> > >

> > > With unconditional Love,

> > > Veni

> > >

> >

>