Shri Mataji: You have all the control, all the powers to take your soul wherever you feel like

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<veni_grig wrote:

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> JSM!

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> Hi Jagbir, Violet, and All,

>

> Jagbir, your posting is such an enjoyable reading.

> If everything is double, is the human Spirit also in a double form –

> male and female at the same time? What Shri Rama teaches about

> human Spirit? What our Divine Mother teaches us on this topic?

> Can you post, please, some extracts of Her talks covering that?

> Thank you so much dear brother.

> Let everybody's day be full of pure divine love, joy and peace.

>

> With unconditional love,

> Veni

>

 

Dear Veni,

 

i believe the Divine Mother within has revealed far more about the

spirit than anything available from Her incarnation Shri Mataji. That

She did so on Her own account to narrate about the spirit to Arwinder

only underscores the importance of this subject. In all my years, i

have known the Divine Mother to be frugal with words and rarely

gives enlightenment on Her own ............. though She will answer

almost any question posed to Her in the Sahasrara. So Her priceless

enlightenment about the spirit should be treasured forever:

 

" i) i asked him if you can cross and pass one hand through the other

or for example across the neck. He replied that you can, and even

pass through fellow spirit beings or any obstacle for the matter.

 

ii) so if you can cross the hands and pass them through each other

how was it possible to sit on Shri Durga's tiger? Arwinder replied

that the spirit can assume any form to do any task. If the intention

of your spirit is to sit on a tiger you will – the spirit just does

that effortlessly.

 

iii) is it possible to feel one's heartbeat? In the first place, does

one have a heart? Arwinder said a spirit has no heart or any internal

organ for the matter.

 

iv) can the spirit assume any form? Arwinder confirmed that it can.

The spirit can experience anything it desires - an insect, tree,

animal, human being, mountain, ocean ......... even an entire planet

or galaxy. It can contract into the smallest size or expand into the

largest. But he clarified that one is always conscious of being the

spirit. In other words, while experiencing being an ocean you are

always conscious that you are still a spirit. Thus from a ocean you

can easily become an entire galaxy, but at all times ever conscious

of being a spirit. This consciousness of being spirit is always

there.

 

v) so what is the spirit form at all times? What are you when you

walk or sit? Arwinder said being the spirit and walking is like

experiencing the wind. He said as a human it is really difficult to

explain/understand this experience as there is nothing similar to it.

The wind is the best he can come up with as the form of spirit is not

solid. "

 

http://www.adishakti.org/forum/arwinder_what_it_is_to_be_a_spirit_9-29-2006.htm

 

The key is understanding that " spirit can experience anything it

desires - an insect, tree, animal, human being, mountain, ocean " . In

other words, the spirit can take birth as a human again ...........

either as male or female. The spirit can also experience itself as an

insect, tree, mountain, ocean or anything it wishes. The sexual nature

of spirit, a question of our base nature and ignorance, never arises.

 

The Spirit is in fact omniscient (all knowing), omnipresent (present

in all locations simultaneously), and omnipotent (all powerful). It

is pure consciousness. What then is the sex of pure consciousness?

 

But what is meant by " spirit " ? What is its essential nature? Is the

human spirit (drop) any different from the Spirit that is God (Ocean)?

 

According to Deepak Chopra " Your essential being is the source of all

being -- the field of pure consciousness that manifests as the entire

universe. In this very moment, pure consciousness illuminates and

animates your mind and body, and it is powerful, invincible,

unbounded, and free. When you know yourself as this field of

consciousness, you have power to manifest your desires, you have

freedom from fear and limitations, and you live in grace, which is

that state of consciousness where things flow and your desires are

easily fulfilled.

 

Joy and sorrow, happiness and suffering, are the play of opposites;

they are transient because they are time-bound. Spirit, the essential

you, is independent of the play of opposites: it dwells in the silent

bliss of the eternal. That's why the key to happiness is to identify

with the unchanging essence of your inner self – to live and play in

the field of intelligence that is beyond positive and negative. This

field is your source, and it is magical, holy, joyful and free...

 

Happiness and sadness are different faces of infinite consciousness.

Both are transient, and you are neither because you are not a state

of consciousness. You are consciousness itself expressing all of

these states. Why would want to identify with a wave on the ocean or

a mere drop of water when you are the ocean? You are not the ever-

changing behaviour of the ocean. You are the water-i-ness of the

ocean. And this water-i-ness doesn't change.

 

Vedanta declares, " Know that one thing by knowing which everything

else is known. " For one who knows the Self, the limitations of the

world disappears. " (Deepak Chopra: Power, Freedom, and Grace: Living

from the Source of Lasting Happiness)

 

" The essential you, your real essence, is a field of awareness that

interacts with its own self and then becomes both mind and body. In

other words, you are consciousness or spirit, which then conceives,

constructs, governs, and becomes the mind and the body. The real you

is inseparable from the patterns of intelligence that permeate every

fiber of creation.

 

At the deepest level of existence, you are Being, and you are nowhere

and everywhere at the same time. There is no other " you " than the

entire cosmos. The cosmic mind creates the physical universe, and the

personal mind experiences the physical universe. But in truth, the

cosmic mind and the personal mind are both permeated by infinite

consciousness. Infinite consciousness is our source, and all

manifestation is inherent within it...

 

At first this may sound strange and abstract, but as you bear with

this notion and understand it, you realize the most dramatic

discovery: The real you is nonmaterial and therefore not subject to

the limitations of space, time, matter, and causation. The soul, the

spirit, the essential you, is beyond all that. In this very moment,

you are surrounded by a pure consciousness. Pure consciousness

illuminates and animates your mind and body, and it is powerful,

nourishing, invincible, unbounded, and free. Pure consciousness, the

eternal spirit, animates everything in existence, which means it is

omniscient (all knowing), omnipresent (present in all locations

simultaneously), and omnipotent (all powerful). " (Deepak Chopra:

Power, Freedom and Grace, pages 13-22)

 

Both the Divine Mother and Deepak Chopra declare that the spirit can

assume/experience anything it wishes. The Divine Mother's

incarnation, Shri Mataji, is basically telling the same thing:

 

" And when you die what happens to you is a very simple thing — that

you feel liberated, absolutely, and then you feel your freedom,

completely, and you can decide what to do. It's all under your own

guidance, your own desires, everything works out. You don't feel that

you have come out of your body and this is what (I) should tell you:

that there should be no fear of death but on the contrary should be

welcomed because you will feel much more liberated, much more at

ease. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

To Achieve Complete Freedom, Cabella, Italy — May 7, 1995

 

" But you know that you have eternal life. You can never die. Death is

not this body disappearing. Death is where you are absolutely without

any control of your soul. Once you are a Realized soul you have all

the control, all the powers to take your soul wherever you feel like —

to be born if you like, if you don't want you will not be born. To be

born with the people, in the families, in the communities, wherever

you like. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

To Achieve Complete Freedom, Cabella, Italy — May 7, 1995

 

But we can only truly experience the spirit after death. So what does

Shri Rama teache about human Spirit? What does our Divine Mother teach

us on this topic? What do the Holy Scriptures teach about it? i have

realized that Deepak Chopra, by virtue of his academic background and

grasp of religious texts, gives the best answers in his book " Life

After Death: The Burden Of Proof " . i bought this book at the Montreal

Airport on the way to India. It is such a fabulous and priceless book

that i cannot even go beyond the various praises and introduction to

Chapter One.

 

Editorial Reviews

From Publishers Weekly

Starred Review. In India death is perceived very differently than in

the West, " as a brief stopping point on an endless soul journey, "

says Chopra in this introduction to life beyond bodily existence.

Chopra, a medical doctor and world leader in mind-body medicine as

well as author of more than 45 books, now ventures to answer: what

happens after we die? For Chopra, death deserves to be called

miraculous, a " doorway to a far more important event—the beginning of

the afterlife " and a mode of being that " can be as creative as

living. " Chopra effectively uses the classic Vedanta story of Savitri—

a woman who comes home to find death, Lord Yama, waiting to take her

husband, and who seeks the monk Ramana's advice to outwit death—to

frame each chapter. Chopra grounds each topic in the long arc of this

singular story, which is the perfect springboard for Chopra to

introduce concepts such as Akasha (the highest stage a soul can

attain) and Eternity within the Indian tradition (where we are beyond

death, life, maleness, femaleness, and the experience of time).

Chopra presents a fascinating account of life after death for

Westerners that will certainly please his avid fans and draw in new

readers as well.

Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier

Inc. All rights reserved.

 

Review

“A must read for everyone who will die.” —Candace B. Pert, Ph.D.,

author of Molecules of Emotion

 

“A penetrating and insightful investigation into the greatest mystery

of existence. This is an important book because only by facing death

will we come to a deeper realization of who we are.” —Eckhart Tolle,

author of The Power of Now

 

“If I had any doubts about the afterlife, I don’t have them anymore.

Deepak Chopra has cast his inimitable light on the darkened corners

of death. I think this is his greatest contribution yet.” —Marianne

Williamson, author of The Gift of Change

 

“Deepak Chopra . . . takes us to the edge of our own deepest inner

truth about life after death by sharing with us his vision and his

wisdom, which, as always, is breathtaking, healing, and soul-

opening.” —Neale Donald Walsch, author of Home with God: In a Life

That Never Ends

 

“Deepak Chopra has written a masterpiece that is long overdue in our

spiritual culture. Life After Death: The Burden of Proof is a bold

and comforting guide into the afterlife.” —Caroline Myss, author of

Anatomy of the Spirit and Sacred Contracts

 

“By marrying science and wisdom in Life After Death, Chopra builds

his case for an afterlife in which our most essential self, the seer

that observes our experiences in this temporary home that we call the

self, uses the end of this lifetime to pass over into the next. This

is an intellectual and spiritual tour de force.” —Professor Robert

Thurman, Columbia University, author of Infinite Life and The Tibetan

Book of the Dead

 

amazon.com

 

 

i know that " Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God " gives irrefutable

evidence and faith of " Life After Death: The Burden Of Proof " . Both

the Divine Mother and Her incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi,

compel us to surrender to the Blossom Time of the Holy Scriptures -

the promised resurrection into the eternal spirit and afterlife!

 

regards,

 

jagbir