The SYSSR and those who promote it thus falls under the category of fostering inimical divisions

March 4, 2009

Dear Violet and all,

We also have to realize that the subtle system is a very vague and

obscure fact, a fleeting reference in the scriptures unknown to the

vast majority of humanity. Even words like " kundalini " and " chakras " ,

which are part and parcel of the subtle system, have remained

relatively unknown over the millennia. The subtle system obviously

fosters inimical doctrinal divisions, all the more since it is such

an unknown doctrine. (Just google " subtle system " and you will

realize it is an exclusive monopoly of the SY organization.)

But Shri Mataji did talk about this petty, obscure subtle system

(which became the official SYSSR) in relation to a vast, awesome,

unfathomable reality within all humans - the Sahasrara (or Kingdom of

God which Jesus so often referred to). All Holy Scriptures do mention

the Sahasrara under various names and degree of clarity, though again

in vagueness and ambiguity.

However, what truly fosters inimical divisions are the rituals of the

SYSSR, cleansing techniques that SYs (not Shri Mataji) think are

required to keep the subtle system in good working order. That these

rituals requires the likes of chillies, lemons, clay pots, candles,

strings, paper etc., to cleanse--silence, attention on chakra/problem

and, most important of all, the Mother Kundalini to heal--will always

repel the wise, intelligent, and the religiously-inclined. Most of

these rituals are anathema to them as they not only insult their

intelligence but their faith, and its founders, as well.

The SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion) and those who promote

it thus falls under that category .......... the category of fostering

inimical divisions, the very opposite of Shri Mataji's advent and

message. It is thus comforting to know from the latest email that at

least we are on the right track:

to: www.adishakti.org@...

date: Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:16 PM

subject: info

" Your internet presentations are great and I like the synthesis of

the different traditions which I am tasting as a sufi thank you for

your manifold efforts. " T.D.

i think over the last few months we have really started to make a

sustained and significant progress, specifically after expanding

extraction of quotes and articles from various authors. Thanks to all

who are contributing towards this progress.

regards to all,

jagbir

, " Violet " <violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> In the Introduction of 'The Second Coming of Christ (The Resurrection of the

Christ Within You)' Paramahansa Yogananda says that:

>

> " The saviors of the world do not come to foster inimical doctrinal divisions;

their teachings should not be used toward that end. It is something of a

misnomer even to refer to the New Testament as the " Christian " Bible, for it

does not belong exclusively to any one sect. Truth is meant for the blessing and

upliftment of the entire human race. As the Christ Consciousness is universal,

so does Jesus Christ belong to all. "

>

> i find this an important truth--that the teachings of the saviors of the world

are meant for all and that they are not meant to foster adverse, antagonistic,

harmful, hostile, hurtful, ill-disposed, noxious, opposed, pernicious,

repugnant, unfavourable and unfriendly--(in short, " inimical " ) divisions.

>

> However, as we have seen with the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion),

the truths given by the saviors, in this case Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, can be

taken by followers and interpreted according to their limited perceptions

through not yet having touched the inner Christ Consciousness within, though

externally they may feel they have already received this consciousness. But, in

truth, they still do not realize the Self within! The SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle

System Religion) and those who promote it, fall under that category, whereas

they only understand part of the truth, but not the full truth, which is greater

than dharma, even the dharma of Sahaja Yoga as given by Shri Mataji:

>

> " For example, a person who is standing on truth, he doesn't care for any

absurd ideas about religion, even about Sahaja religion. He doesn't care that

after all 'this is Sahaja, this is not Sahaja'. He goes beyond, in the sense

that he sees a global truth within himself. He sees the truth which is all

pervading--not only sees, but he knows and feels he is in the truth. So when

Dharma flowers into truth, it's a very beautiful happening. And that should

happen to all of you.

>

> So many things can linger on, if you are only on the Dharma level. I've seen

people going into ego, making money. Sometimes they don't even ask me and go on

doing things, which they should not do. They do wrong things which are not good

for Sahaja Yoga. There is no humility about it and they don't understand whether

this Dharma is standing on truth or untruth. "

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, Sahasrara Puja, Cabella, Italy - 04/05/97

>

> regards,

>

> violet

>

> The Second Coming of Christ - Part 1 of the Introduction

>

> (xxi) In titling this work 'The Second Coming of Christ', I am not referring

to a literal return of Jesus to earth. He came two thousand years ago and, after

imparting a universal path to God's kingdom, was crucified and resurrected; his

reappearance to the masses now is not necessary for the fulfillment of his

teachings. What 'is' necessary is for the cosmic wisdom and divine perception of

Jesus to speak again through each one's own experience and understanding of the

infinite Christ Consciousness that was incarnate in Jesus. That will be his true

Second Coming.

>

> There is a distinguishing difference of meaning between 'Jesus' and

'Christ'. His given name was Jesus; his honorific title was " Christ. " In his

little human body called Jesus was born the vast Christ Consciousness, the

omniscient Intelligence of God omnipresent in every part and particle of

creation. This Consciousness is the " only begotten Son of God, " so designated

because it is the sole perfect reflection in creation of the Transcendental

Absolute, Spirit or God the Father.

>

> It was of that Infinite Consciousness, replete with the love and bliss of

God, that Saint John spoke when he said: " As many as received him [the Christ

Consciousness], to them gave he power to become the sons of God. " Thus according

to Jesus' own teaching as recorded by his most highly advanced apostle, John,

all souls who become united with Christ Consciousness by intuitive

Self-realisation are rightly called sons of God.

>

> (xxii) A small cup cannot hold an ocean within itself. Likewise, the cup of

human consciousness, limited by the physical and mental instrumentalities of

material perceptions, cannot grasp the universal Christ Consciousness, no matter

how desirous one may be of doing so. By the definite science of meditation known

for millenniums to the yogis and sages of India, and to Jesus, any seeker of God

can enlarge the caliber of his consciousness to omniscience--to receive within

himself the Universal Intelligence of God.

>

> What Jesus gave as chronicled in the New Testament of the Bible very few

people understand. They just read what he said and quote it; and because it is

written in the biblical Scripture they believe it blindly, with little effort to

realize the wisdom therein through personal experience. Realization is to attune

one's consciousness with Christ; then the right comprehension will come. When

persons try to deduce the meaning of Jesus' words by intellectual analysis

alone, or from the perspective of a specific dogma, they inevitably distort his

sayings to suit their purpose--however well-intentioned--or to comfortably

accommodate their level of understanding. Christ-wisdom has to be grasped by

communion, not by rationalization.

>

> The only reliable standard of scriptural interpretation is the testimony of

actual perception--to go into that state of consciousness in which the prophets

perceived the truths they expounded and thereby witness the meaning they

intended. The words of Jesus fully unfold their wisdom only to those who

meditate deeply on the Christ Consciousness that Jesus possessed. Then one

understands Jesus in the light of his spiritual experience of the Cosmic

Consciousness of the Heavenly Father, realized through the Father's

Christ-Intelligence reflection present in all creation.

>

> The detailed knowledge of the heavens as discovered by great astronomers

through study and the use of telescopes could not have been acquired by lay

persons lacking that training and equipment. Likewise, what enlightened sages

know about Truth and Spirit through the clarifying telescope of their intuition

can be known by ordinary individuals only when they have similarly extended

their vision by the use of their inner telescopic intuition erstwhile hidden in

the chamber of their souls.

>

> (xxiii) Christ did not go through the sublime drama of his life merely to

provide sermon material for generations of preachers and their Sunday audiences.

He lived, died, and was gloriously resurrected as an inspiration to others to

live a divine life and attain in themselves his experiences of God and the

afterlife.

>

> Jesus Christ was crucified once; but his teachings are crucified daily at

the hands of superstition, dogmatism, and pedantic theological

misinterpretations. My aim in offering to the world this spiritual

interpretation of his words is to show how the Christ Consciousness of Jesus,

free from such crucifixion, can be brought back a second time into the souls of

all who make the effort to receive it. Surely, with the dawn of this more

enlightened age, the time has come to stop the crucifixion of the Christ

teachings as given by Jesus. His pristine message should be resurrected from its

entombment by Self-realization, the inner enlightened experience of truth.

>

> In these pages I offer to the world an intuitionally perceived spiritual

interpretation of the words spoken by Jesus, truths received through actual

communion with Christ Consciousness. They will be found to be universally true

if they are studied conscientiously and meditated upon with soul-awakened

intuitive perception. They reveal the perfect unity that exists among the

revelations of the Christian Bible, the Bhagavad Gita of India, and all other

time-tested true scriptures.

>

> The saviors of the world do not come to foster inimical doctrinal

divisions; their teachings should not be used toward that end. It is something

of a misnomer even to refer to the New Testament as the " Christian " Bible, for

it does not belong exclusively to any one sect. Truth is meant for the blessing

and upliftment of the entire human race. As the Christ Consciousness is

universal, so does Jesus Christ belong to all.

>

> The Second Coming of Christ (The Resurrection of the Christ Within You) Volume

I, Introduction, p.xxi-xxiii

> Paramahansa Yogananda

> Printed in the United States of America 1434-J881

> ISBN-13:978-0-87612-557-1

> ISBN-10:0-87612-557-7

>

March 4, 2009

>

> However, what truly fosters inimical divisions are the rituals of the

> SYSSR, cleansing techniques that SYs (not Shri Mataji) think are

> required to keep the subtle system in good working order. That these

> rituals requires the likes of chillies, lemons, clay pots, candles,

> strings, paper etc., to cleanse--silence, attention on chakra/problem

> and, most important of all, the Mother Kundalini to heal--will always

> repel the wise, intelligent, and the religiously-inclined. Most of

> these rituals are anathema to them as they not only insult their

> intelligence but their faith, and its founders, as well.

>

Sorry folks. It should have read:

" That these rituals requires the likes of chillies, lemons, clay

pots, candles, strings, paper etc., to cleanse--instead of silence,

attention on chakra/problem and, most important of all, the Mother

Kundalini to heal--will always repel the wise, intelligent, and the

religiously-inclined. "

Just to add, all these rituals repulsed me very early in Sahaja Yoga

as they made no sense given the immense power of the Mother

Kundalini. i just could not understand why the Mother Kundalini--so

flawless in keeping all records of Her son/daughter's countless

rebirths, and waiting patiently till She is desired to give Self-

realization--was not able to heal a most petty chakra disturbance!

These treatments deeply disturbed, insulted my intelligence that i

have to put my faith in a two-cent chilli to heal, over and above my

own Mother Kundalini!

But what could i do against the collective mindset that seemed

mesmerized by their new found faith in chillies and lemons? They

bristled with pride of their 'powers' (which the rest of humanity

were, alas, so unfortunate to be excluded from).

My wife also followed these rituals in muted silence, lest the

collective labelled us " negative " .

It is my good fortune that the Devi isolated and insulated me from

this collective SY mindset. Had i not left, this forum and websites

would have been non-existent!

regards to all,

jagbir

March 5, 2009

, " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

wrote:

> Just to add, all these rituals repulsed me very early in Sahaja Yoga

> as they made no sense given the immense power of the Mother

> Kundalini. i just could not understand why the Mother Kundalini--so

> flawless in keeping all records of Her son/daughter's countless

> rebirths, and waiting patiently till She is desired to give Self-

> realization--was not able to heal a most petty chakra disturbance!

> These treatments deeply disturbed, insulted my intelligence that i

> have to put my faith in a two-cent chilli to heal, over and above my

> own Mother Kundalini!

Dear Jagbir and All,

After reading what Jagbir wrote it struck me that some people have more faith in

a lemon and chilli physical cleansing treatment than in their own Mother

Kundalini to give them their Self-realization--because they can see the lemon

and chilli, but they can't see their own Mother Kundalini. To have faith in

one's own Mother Kundalini requires a willingness to engage in the most sincere,

honest and open relationship--hiding absolutely nothing from Her (even though

She does know everything about you!) But that also means that She knows what is

best for you, too. The relationship needs to become a real live, living

connection--more real than can be had with anyone else (because She is within

you!) Once this understanding and recognition are there, that is when the real

spiritual transformation begins, which gives continual and lasting effects

(which we describe as the Kundalini energy clearing and cleansing a person on a

24/7 basis).

It is a living process and a living relationship, that cannot be had with a

chilli nor a lemon (and in that regard it does insult the intelligence!) The

Mother Kundalini's intelligence will never be insulted, though. She knows if a

person is after a quick fix/quick cure or if a person wants a complete spiritual

transformation--in which case they will be willing to sacrifice whatever their

own Mother Kundalini impresses upon them in order to achieve that. Nothing in

this life is a greater achievement. Nothing in this life brings more success

than that. If this is what a person desires and seeks for with their whole

heart, mind, and soul, they will have it in this lifetime. In that case the

Mother Kundalini is only too willing. But still, this process takes as long as

it takes, depending upon the person. A person has to trust in their Mother

Kundalini and have complete faith in Her. So, Sahaja Yogis that still depend

upon their relationship with the chilli and lemon (among other things) have to

start setting their sights a bit higher if they really want to realize the Self.

Self-realization is no less--than a relationship with the " Divine " that is

within a person!

regards,

violet

>

> >

> > However, what truly fosters inimical divisions are the rituals of the

> > SYSSR, cleansing techniques that SYs (not Shri Mataji) think are

> > required to keep the subtle system in good working order. That these

> > rituals requires the likes of chillies, lemons, clay pots, candles,

> > strings, paper etc., to cleanse--silence, attention on chakra/problem

> > and, most important of all, the Mother Kundalini to heal--will always

> > repel the wise, intelligent, and the religiously-inclined. Most of

> > these rituals are anathema to them as they not only insult their

> > intelligence but their faith, and its founders, as well.

> >

>

> Sorry folks. It should have read:

>

> " That these rituals requires the likes of chillies, lemons, clay

> pots, candles, strings, paper etc., to cleanse--instead of silence,

> attention on chakra/problem and, most important of all, the Mother

> Kundalini to heal--will always repel the wise, intelligent, and the

> religiously-inclined. "