Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 > > i told him that if he was truly self-realized he would always tell > the truth to his fellow human beings. He claimed that he was pretty > self-realized. i reminded him that he was not! > Dear Violet and all, My realization of Self and the self-realization of SYs are two different things ......... and that is the other reason i told him so bluntly, the first being truthfulness. In all my seven years in Sahaja Yoga i never was anywhere near realizing my Self. i now know that most SYs do not know what Self-realization really is, other than kundalini, chakras, treatments, mantras, attending pujas and being in the collective. i know most SYs will find it blasphemous to accuse them of deficiency in Self-realization but the evidence is nailed on the front door of http://www.sahajayoga.org/ " Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an experience called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur within each human being. Through this process an inner transformation takes place by which one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced. One can actually feel the all pervading divine power as a cool breeze, as described in all religions and spiritual traditions of the world. This is the actualization of such transformation, which is taking place now, worldwide, and has been proved and experienced by hundreds of thousands in over 90 countries. It is entirely free of charge, as one cannot pay for the experience of Divine Love. " The collective claim of the SY organization that Self Realization is Kundalini awakening is so simplistic that it defies logic and common sense. This ignorance is the very reason they believe that all they need is awaken the kundalini, thus instantly making the person self- realized!!! Despite that claim, hundreds of thousands have walked away from Sahaja Yoga despite the so-called bestowing of 'self- realization'; despite having attained the same self-realization that SYs have; despite feeling the same Cool Breeze. Only SYs think they are self-realized all the time, the proof being the Cool Breeze. But the Cool Breeze is evidence of second birth by the Spirit, not realization of that Spirit! This was only realized by me after years away from the collective, away from all their ignorance and rituals. You cannot realize your Spirit (Self) in Sahaja Yoga because of the collective mindset--chakras, kundalini, nadis, etc., (SYSSR)--and the constant, compulsive need of treatments to keep them clean. So why should i ever want to go back to the SY collective? i want to realize the Self (Spirit) and the profound truth and wisdom behind such realization: " The Self is the Spirit. This Spirit resides in the heart of every human being and is in a witness-like state. The Spirit is the projection of God Almighty, while the Kundalini is the projection of the power of God, of His desire which is the Primordial Mother, or you can call it Adi Shakti, Holy Ghost or Athena. So the Kundalini is the projection of the Holy Ghost, while the Spirit is the projection of God Almighty. The All-pervading Power of love is the power of the Primordial Mother, which creates and evolves, and does all the living work. " - Shri Mataji Nirmal Devi i want to know about Shri Mataji's Blossom Time, the final events in history, Resurrection, fulfillment of a divine plan for humanity, and the immortality of the human soul. i want to thoroughly comprehend the eschatology that binds Judaism, Christianity and Islam as one, and how it is harmoniously and collectively fulfilled by Devi. i want to be comforted in heart, mind and soul that i am within reach of immortality. i want to declare loud and clear that my faith is not blind as it is based on the heart and soul of the Holy Scriptures. i want the world to know about the Mahadevi and Her incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi ....... the Divine Feminine entrenched in all the Holy Scriptures. i want to know the Divine Message of the Comforter sent by Lord Jesus. i want to know the Truth that Jesus promised will set me free. i want to know all that is not found in Sahaja Yoga! i think it is too late to change the mindset of SYs indoctrinated with the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion). It is evident, given the dwindling numbers of their collectives, that they have decided to circle the wagons and fight off the negativity that always seem to be attacking and disturbing their chakras. Little do they realize the negativity (ignorance) is within the organization and the evidence is nailed on the front door of http://www.sahajayoga.org/. i rest my case. regards, jagbir -------- Dear Jagbir and all, Your encounter at the petrol pump with the SY who would like you to re-join the local Sahaj collective, shows that he isn't seriously understanding the need of conscientious SYs to tell the truth upfront as Shri Mataji has done. He doesn't seriously contemplate the fact that you have already been in the local collective, and found them seriously deficient in announcing the Resurrection and Last Judgment-- something that no self-respecting Christian would dare be deficient in, especially since it is a major part of Jesus' teachings--and also a major part of Shri Mataji's teachings. We solitary salmon, finding ourselves in contrary streams of opinion in the Sahaj collectives that do not wish to declare upfront the Resurrection and Last Judgment--have found a much more conducive stream to swim in here, where we are all swimming in the same direction, instead of against the tide! Telling the truth upfront has only benefitted us, and everyone who wants to know the truth! http://www.adishakti.org/ regards to all, violet , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear All, > > i have improved the heading, and feel even better: > > " Shri Adi Shakti > The Divine Feminine > > Since November 1993 the spiritual experiences of children's souls > meeting the Divine Feminine thousands of times over the years have > been recorded. All have independently corroborated and identified > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi to be the incarnation of the Divine Feminine > sent to deliver and explain in detail the Primordial Being's Divine > Message of the promised General Resurrection and evolution into the > eternal spirit. The eschatology that binds Judaism, Christianity and > Islam as one—final events in history, Resurrection, fulfillment of a > divine plan for humanity, and the immortality of the human soul—is > harmoniously and collectively fulfilled by Devi. " > > http://www.adishakti.org/ > > > i believe this sounds better, given the biiter rivalry between the > three faiths stretching back for centuries: > > " The eschatology that binds Judaism, Christianity and Islam as one— > final events in history, Resurrection, fulfillment of a divine plan > for humanity, and the immortality of the human soul—is harmoniously > and collectively fulfilled by Devi. " > > BTW, yesterday at a petrol pump i met a Montreal SY who has been in > Sahaja Yoga since the 1980s. He had just come back from the > Shivaratri Puja held nearby. > > i asked him if the collective was increasing in Canada. It was clear > that it was not, and going in the other direction. > > i told him why are SYs not telling the truth. He said the vibrations > will lead them to the truth (but could not explain how). > > i asked him why are SYs unable to do what Shri Mataji has been doing > in public for more than three decades - announcing that the > Resurrection and Last Judgment has started. Again he was evasive and > claimed that such things cannot be told in the beginning. i reminded > him that Shri Mataji never felt that way. There was another evasive > answer, something to the effect that vibrations will help them > uncover the truth. > > i told him that if he was truly self-realized he would always tell > the truth to his fellow human beings. He claimed that he was pretty > self-realized. i reminded him that he was not! > > As he went to pay for petrol he told me something that i have waited > for a long time to hear: " Jagbir, you should join the collective. " i > replied: " Why should i join liars and hypocrites? " There was no > response ......... and i drove away. > > regards to all, > > jagbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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