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Dear Gerlinde (and All),

 

i hear that you are successfully giving Self-realization in your local area

while at the same time giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you

please share with us how you are doing it, as i am sure this would encourage

others to do likewise. It would be helpful to know what kind of an approach you

are using. i am sure there are many Sahaja Yogis who would be more than willing,

if they could see their way forward, to present the full message of Sahaja Yoga

upfront and in person in their own local area.

 

Warm Regards,

 

violet

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, " Violet " <violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Gerlinde (and All),

>

> i hear that you are successfully giving Self-realization in your local area

while at the same time giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you

please share with us how you are doing it, as i am sure this would encourage

others to do likewise. It would be helpful to know what kind of an approach you

are using. i am sure there are many Sahaja Yogis who would be more than willing,

if they could see their way forward, to present the full message of Sahaja Yoga

upfront and in person in their own local area.

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> violet

 

 

Dear Violet and All,

 

I'd like to share a brief background here of my own journey to 'presenting the

full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront'.

 

Even before my 'unexpected, accidental' discovery of the adishakti.org site, I

had always felt the strong desire to spread Sahaja Yoga. My participation in

giving Self-Realization within the collective format gave me some basic

grounding, but I soon wanted to spread this to more people within expanded

venues. I began, so to speak, to test the public waters for myself.

 

So, in order to see how giving Self-Realization by myself would work, I tried it

on my own at first on a one-on-one basis. For me the difficult aspect was to

find a way to initiate a conversation and to move it towards actually giving

Self-Realization. I soon found many things could begin a connection: a candle,

symbol such as a spiral, a picture book about travel... Often my attention would

also be drawn to someone and I soon understood that that happened for a reason.

 

Once my confidence became more established I wanted to connect with groups of

people - common interest groups - health, crafts, service groups, Senior

Citizens in Retirement Homes, schools teaching World Religions, Native groups

and so on...

 

Although initially my main emphasis was to give Self-Realization, I also wanted

people to understand Sahaja Yoga in greater depth. Internally I soon began

chafing at the implied, restrictive expectations I felt within the collective

and with the discovery of adishakti.org I realized my uneasiness was

well-founded.

 

The next big challenge was to present Shri Mataji's Identitiy and full message

and see what reactions resulted from this disclosure coming from a solitary

local individual.

 

One of the first venues for this 'experiment' was at a University Student

Women's Club. One response to the full disclosure was from a young student who

said with emotion that she knew, as soon as Shri Mataji started speaking on the

Self-Realization tape that I played that day, that She was someone

extraordinary!

 

Another young World Religions high school student came up to me shyly after

class and with her teacher standing next to me, said, " That was AWESOME! "

 

And after discovering the connection of the White Buffalo Calf Woman and Shri

Mataji and getting her Self-Realization, the young Native Woman I met at my

second Pow Wow burst into tears and hugged me.

 

Just recently I had the occasion to present Sahaja Yoga for the fourth year at a

University's Wellness Fair. This was the third year for full disclosure there -

six hours sped by, busy with many interactions, discussion, meditation basics,

and Self-Realization for people of different faiths. A few weren't interested

and merely shrugged and declined.

 

My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the attention is

drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the adishakti.org URLs,

together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The Advent and/or Meta

Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of Kuan Yin with a

feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when time permits to

people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara.

 

Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together with

interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section.

 

In conclusion, I've used these past several years to present Shri Mataji's

message and Identity in full wherever I can and have overall found a decidedly

positive reaction. Anyone who is disinterested is free to decline. In a class,

for example, I always say that participation is entirely voluntary, since

everyone's freedom is respected.

 

After speaking of the general overall success of presenting a full disclosure, I

would like to share with you my observation of an overriding challenge regarding

what may also be required to direct the public's attention towards Shri Mataji.

 

It is that, after the full disclosure has been presented and Self-Realization

has been given and a brief discussion follows, except for connecting again with

the inner circle, so to speak, of the adishakti.org internet sites, these newly

Realized souls never hear or see another word about WHO Shri Mataji is, WHAT HER

complete message IS from an outside independent venue of newspaper, magazine,

radio, TV, talk show, film etc.

 

As a direct result of this lack of confirmation or even discussion of the

importance and relevance of what has just been experienced, I'm wondering how

many people just forget about this experience and become reinvolved in the

mundane world.

 

In general, there's little in the illusory outside world which draws the

attention again to Shri Mataji, the Holy Spirit, and the Resurrection Time,

Salvation via the media of film, newspaper, magazine, radio, talk shows, or

interviews as a necessary independent announcement/backup/discussion of the

Truth that has just been presented.

 

With each yogi(ni) beginning and continuing to present Shri Mataji's full

message individually as well as collectively, however, it will certainly be ever

more likely that this vital knowledge and experience may indeed come to the

attention of the vast public, not only through the hugely accessible and vitally

important internet's adishakti.org sites but also through other powerful media

that the public accesses daily such as radio, TV.

 

In closing, I'd like to say that it's been an outstanding, reaffirming

experience for me to have met so many seekers who have been told the full Truth

- a wonderful experience for all of us to continue to look forward to.

 

Warm regards,

Gerlinde

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, " magdca " <gerlindesattler

wrote:

>

> , " Violet " <violetubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gerlinde (and All),

> >

> > i hear that you are successfully giving Self-realization in your local area

while at the same time giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you

please share with us how you are doing it, as i am sure this would encourage

others to do likewise. It would be helpful to know what kind of an approach you

are using. i am sure there are many Sahaja Yogis who would be more than willing,

if they could see their way forward, to present the full message of Sahaja Yoga

upfront and in person in their own local area.

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> >

> > violet

>

>

> Dear Violet and All,

>

> I'd like to share a brief background here of my own journey to 'presenting the

full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront'.

>

> Even before my 'unexpected, accidental' discovery of the adishakti.org site, I

had always felt the strong desire to spread Sahaja Yoga. My participation in

giving Self-Realization within the collective format gave me some basic

grounding, but I soon wanted to spread this to more people within expanded

venues. I began, so to speak, to test the public waters for myself.

>

> So, in order to see how giving Self-Realization by myself would work, I tried

it on my own at first on a one-on-one basis. For me the difficult aspect was to

find a way to initiate a conversation and to move it towards actually giving

Self-Realization. I soon found many things could begin a connection: a candle,

symbol such as a spiral, a picture book about travel... Often my attention would

also be drawn to someone and I soon understood that that happened for a reason.

>

> Once my confidence became more established I wanted to connect with groups of

people - common interest groups - health, crafts, service groups, Senior

Citizens in Retirement Homes, schools teaching World Religions, Native groups

and so on...

>

> Although initially my main emphasis was to give Self-Realization, I also

wanted people to understand Sahaja Yoga in greater depth. Internally I soon

began chafing at the implied, restrictive expectations I felt within the

collective and with the discovery of adishakti.org I realized my uneasiness was

well-founded.

>

> The next big challenge was to present Shri Mataji's Identitiy and full message

and see what reactions resulted from this disclosure coming from a solitary

local individual.

>

> One of the first venues for this 'experiment' was at a University Student

Women's Club. One response to the full disclosure was from a young student who

said with emotion that she knew, as soon as Shri Mataji started speaking on the

Self-Realization tape that I played that day, that She was someone

extraordinary!

>

> Another young World Religions high school student came up to me shyly after

class and with her teacher standing next to me, said, " That was AWESOME! "

>

> And after discovering the connection of the White Buffalo Calf Woman and Shri

Mataji and getting her Self-Realization, the young Native Woman I met at my

second Pow Wow burst into tears and hugged me.

>

> Just recently I had the occasion to present Sahaja Yoga for the fourth year at

a University's Wellness Fair. This was the third year for full disclosure there

- six hours sped by, busy with many interactions, discussion, meditation basics,

and Self-Realization for people of different faiths. A few weren't interested

and merely shrugged and declined.

>

> My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the attention is

drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the adishakti.org URLs,

together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The Advent and/or Meta

Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of Kuan Yin with a

feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when time permits to

people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara.

>

> Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together with

interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section.

>

> In conclusion, I've used these past several years to present Shri Mataji's

message and Identity in full wherever I can and have overall found a decidedly

positive reaction. Anyone who is disinterested is free to decline. In a class,

for example, I always say that participation is entirely voluntary, since

everyone's freedom is respected.

>

> After speaking of the general overall success of presenting a full disclosure,

I would like to share with you my observation of an overriding challenge

regarding what may also be required to direct the public's attention towards

Shri Mataji.

>

> It is that, after the full disclosure has been presented and Self-Realization

has been given and a brief discussion follows, except for connecting again with

the inner circle, so to speak, of the adishakti.org internet sites, these newly

Realized souls never hear or see another word about WHO Shri Mataji is, WHAT HER

complete message IS from an outside independent venue of newspaper, magazine,

radio, TV, talk show, film etc.

>

> As a direct result of this lack of confirmation or even discussion of the

importance and relevance of what has just been experienced, I'm wondering how

many people just forget about this experience and become reinvolved in the

mundane world.

>

> In general, there's little in the illusory outside world which draws the

attention again to Shri Mataji, the Holy Spirit, and the Resurrection Time,

Salvation via the media of film, newspaper, magazine, radio, talk shows, or

interviews as a necessary independent announcement/backup/discussion of the

Truth that has just been presented.

>

> With each yogi(ni) beginning and continuing to present Shri Mataji's full

message individually as well as collectively, however, it will certainly be ever

more likely that this vital knowledge and experience may indeed come to the

attention of the vast public, not only through the hugely accessible and vitally

important internet's adishakti.org sites but also through other powerful media

that the public accesses daily such as radio, TV.

>

> In closing, I'd like to say that it's been an outstanding, reaffirming

experience for me to have met so many seekers who have been told the full Truth

- a wonderful experience for all of us to continue to look forward to.

>

> Warm regards,

> Gerlinde

>

 

 

Dear Gerlinde and All,

 

I am absolutely thrilled with everything you describe and the response you have

received is fantastic! i love the natural way in which you are presenting the

full message of Sahaja Yoga, with the use of various items of interest displayed

on your table which become 'talking points' leading to Self-realization if the

person in their freedom wishes to have it. i like the fact that there is no 'pat

formula' but that you are just giving it from your Self.

 

The pamphlets of Shri Mataji's words, and of the different religions, and the

chart you have made up are, i believe, just what's needed for others to see a

way forward to giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you be

willing for these to be put on the forum somewhere where others could have

access to them and print them off for their use, also?

 

Could you please describe how you go through the giving of the Self-realization,

that is, how do you do it for a Group as compared to giving Self-realization to

the individual person lined up at a Trade Fair, for example.

 

Thank you so much for all your innovations that you have shared with us! i hope

it results in many more having the confidence to give the full message of Sahaja

Yoga upfront in their local community.

 

Warm regards,

 

violet

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Dear Gerlinde, Violet and All,

 

i congratulate you on your courage in presenting the full message of

Sahaja Yoga upfront to the public. It was your conscience and

consciousness that led you to solutions, a firm belief that has been

tested by me many times over i.e., the Holy Spirit/Devi will always

find solutions for you if your desire is pure. Thus this makes

perfect sense to me:

 

" Internally I soon began chafing at the implied, restrictive

expectations I felt within the collective and with the discovery of

adishakti.org I realized my uneasiness was well-founded. "

 

as i had _always insisted_ that we, as Self-realized souls, must be

honest upfront ........ a tenacity that first irritated and then

angered the local collective and world leaders as well.

 

Then in December 1999, at the eve of the millennium, i decided to go

ahead and put the entire SHRI ADI SHAKTI: THE KINGDOM OF GOD online.

The uproar and fear among leaders (most of whom are/were in WCASY)

shocked me. i became speechless, ashamed and weakened by the tsunami

of ignorance, cowardice and negativity (in that corresponding order

i.e., speechless=ignorance). All i saw around me was a spiritual dump

no different from the religious wastelands.

 

i decided not to budge but fight tooth and nail ...... and the Holy

Spirit/Devi was more than willing to help. Today we have the best

sites proclaiming the Advent and Divine Message of Her incarnation.

We also have Shri Mataji's 2008 Guru Puja explicit and unprecedented

freedom to spread Sahaja Yoga as we see fit, even having our own

organizations!

 

Thus i am also interested as to how you go about convincing seekers

to get their Self-realization in public, which i believe is the more

crucial and difficult of the task. This is an area i am unfamiliar

with and wish to get more details so that others can also use your

method and materials. If you need help in scanning and putting them

online i am sure " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108, who too

wants to help spread the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront, will be

more than willing to help you.

 

Gerlinde, i also wish to draw your attention on the latest web

rankings of 20 March 2009:

 

Adishakti.org has a traffic rank of: 260,076 (Previous 625,303)

 

Adishakti.org users come from these countries:

United States 40.7%

India 21.8%

Canada 4.7%

Indonesia 3.5%

Philippines 1.9%

 

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/adishakti.org

 

Canada, Indonesia and Philippines are among the top five. i am sure

your contributions count. But how did Indonesia and Philippines, with

so little internet penetration, register that high? There have to be

others working quietly behind the scene in these countries, and

presenting the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Maybe they can

make further gains from your presentations. Thanks.

 

The latest web rankings is evidence that the upfront approach by a

handful of us is working much better than the collective effort of

tens of thousands trying to spread their SYSSR. The few approaching

the public with the full message are also experiencing the same

positive results. Gerlinde, we should also not forget that

www.adishakti.org encourages/insists that seekers continue on their

own after establishing the Cool Breeze. Today we are setting a trend

that is years/decades ahead!

 

" Jesus solemnly assures the disciples that they will, in the future,

perform even greater miracles than He. By this He means to say that

through the power of the Holy Spirit, they will bring about the

greatest miracle of all – the salvation of lost souls. He promises

them that whatever they ask for, in connection with their ministry of

bringing the miracle of salvation to lost men, will be granted them. "

 

It is all going to work out as was eschatologically promised! The

greatest miracle of all is nothing but human evolution. We are years

/decades ahead in declaring a future trend and accepted knowledge!

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

 

 

--

 

Dear Gerlinde and All,

 

I am absolutely thrilled with everything you describe and the

response you have received is fantastic! i love the natural way in

which you are presenting the full message of Sahaja Yoga, with the

use of various items of interest displayed on your table which

become 'talking points' leading to Self-realization if the person in

their freedom wishes to have it. i like the fact that there is no 'pat

formula' but that you are just giving it from your Self.

 

The pamphlets of Shri Mataji's words, and of the different religions,

and the chart you have made up are, i believe, just what's needed for

others to see a way forward to giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga

upfront. Would you be willing for these to be put on the forum

somewhere where others could have access to them and print them off

for their use, also?

 

Could you please describe how you go through the giving of the Self-

realization, that is, how do you do it for a Group as compared to

giving Self-realization to the individual person lined up at a Trade

Fair, for example.

 

Thank you so much for all your innovations that you have shared with

us! i hope it results in many more having the confidence to give the

full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront in their local community.

 

Warm regards,

 

violet

 

 

, " Violet " <violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Gerlinde (and All),

>

> i hear that you are successfully giving Self-realization in your local area

while at the same time giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you

please share with us how you are doing it, as i am sure this would encourage

others to do likewise. It would be helpful to know what kind of an approach you

are using. i am sure there are many Sahaja Yogis who would be more than willing,

if they could see their way forward, to present the full message of Sahaja Yoga

upfront and in person in their own local area.

>

> Warm Regards,

>

> violet

 

 

Dear Violet and All,

 

I'd like to share a brief background here of my own journey to 'presenting the

full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront'.

 

Even before my 'unexpected, accidental' discovery of the adishakti.org site, I

had always felt the strong desire to spread Sahaja Yoga. My participation in

giving Self-Realization within the collective format gave me some basic

grounding, but I soon wanted to spread this to more people within expanded

venues. I began, so to speak, to test the public waters for myself.

 

So, in order to see how giving Self-Realization by myself would work, I tried it

on my own at first on a one-on-one basis. For me the difficult aspect was to

find a way to initiate a conversation and to move it towards actually giving

Self-Realization. I soon found many things could begin a connection: a candle,

symbol such as a spiral, a picture book about travel... Often my attention would

also be drawn to someone and I soon understood that that happened for a reason.

 

Once my confidence became more established I wanted to connect with groups of

people - common interest groups - health, crafts, service groups, Senior

Citizens in Retirement Homes, schools teaching World Religions, Native groups

and so on...

 

Although initially my main emphasis was to give Self-Realization, I also wanted

people to understand Sahaja Yoga in greater depth. Internally I soon began

chafing at the implied, restrictive expectations I felt within the collective

and with the discovery of adishakti.org I realized my uneasiness was

well-founded.

 

The next big challenge was to present Shri Mataji's Identitiy and full message

and see what reactions resulted from this disclosure coming from a solitary

local individual.

 

One of the first venues for this 'experiment' was at a University Student

Women's Club. One response to the full disclosure was from a young student who

said with emotion that she knew, as soon as Shri Mataji started speaking on the

Self-Realization tape that I played that day, that She was someone

extraordinary!

 

Another young World Religions high school student came up to me shyly after

class and with her teacher standing next to me, said, " That was AWESOME! "

 

And after discovering the connection of the White Buffalo Calf Woman and Shri

Mataji and getting her Self-Realization, the young Native Woman I met at my

second Pow Wow burst into tears and hugged me.

 

Just recently I had the occasion to present Sahaja Yoga for the fourth year at a

University's Wellness Fair. This was the third year for full disclosure there -

six hours sped by, busy with many interactions, discussion, meditation basics,

and Self-Realization for people of different faiths. A few weren't interested

and merely shrugged and declined.

 

My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the attention is

drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the adishakti.org URLs,

together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The Advent and/or Meta

Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of Kuan Yin with a

feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when time permits to

people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara.

 

Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together with

interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section.

 

In conclusion, I've used these past several years to present Shri Mataji's

message and Identity in full wherever I can and have overall found a decidedly

positive reaction. Anyone who is disinterested is free to decline. In a class,

for example, I always say that participation is entirely voluntary, since

everyone's freedom is respected.

 

After speaking of the general overall success of presenting a full disclosure, I

would like to share with you my observation of an overriding challenge regarding

what may also be required to direct the public's attention towards Shri Mataji.

 

It is that, after the full disclosure has been presented and Self-Realization

has been given and a brief discussion follows, except for connecting again with

the inner circle, so to speak, of the adishakti.org internet sites, these newly

Realized souls never hear or see another word about WHO Shri Mataji is, WHAT HER

complete message IS from an outside independent venue of newspaper, magazine,

radio, TV, talk show, film etc.

 

As a direct result of this lack of confirmation or even discussion of the

importance and relevance of what has just been experienced, I'm wondering how

many people just forget about this experience and become reinvolved in the

mundane world.

 

In general, there's little in the illusory outside world which draws the

attention again to Shri Mataji, the Holy Spirit, and the Resurrection Time,

Salvation via the media of film, newspaper, magazine, radio, talk shows, or

interviews as a necessary independent announcement/backup/discussion of the

Truth that has just been presented.

 

With each yogi(ni) beginning and continuing to present Shri Mataji's full

message individually as well as collectively, however, it will certainly be ever

more likely that this vital knowledge and experience may indeed come to the

attention of the vast public, not only through the hugely accessible and vitally

important internet's adishakti.org sites but also through other powerful media

that the public accesses daily such as radio, TV.

 

In closing, I'd like to say that it's been an outstanding, reaffirming

experience for me to have met so many seekers who have been told the full Truth

- a wonderful experience for all of us to continue to look forward to.

 

Warm regards,

Gerlinde

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Dear Violet, Jagbir and All,

In this forum message I'll address some of the materials put together for the

public, whether it is something I use/have available in a World Religions class

setting and/or the individual public at a Fair, Service club ...

 

The following is the very simple pamphlet which can be easily done on Excel and

'updated' as time goes on, if desired.

For example, whereas the initial title on my pamphlet was only Sahaja Yoga

" spontaneous union " , given Jagbir's recent important title update on the

adishakti site which reflects with great relevance what the site/Shri Mataji's

message is all about, I prefer " Divine Feminine Adi Shakti The Kingdom of

God " . If desired, however, as per your own discretion, Sahaja Yoga " spontaneous

union " might also be placed below the main heading or.....

 

One advantage of this simple pamphlet is that it can be placed four to a page

for use in large numbers of printed copies or two to a page if larger copies are

needed. I've also used this sometimes as one main page in colour placed directly

on the table for prominent display of the full truth at a glance.

 

For me these four quotes give the profound essence of what we're trying to

convey to the public within usually a very limited amount of time, but an

essence which hopefully spurs on further search via the adishakti.org sites and

even more likely once the participant has also experienced Kundalini awakening.

 

 

1)Pamphlet:

 

DIVINE FEMININE ADI SHAKTI THE KINGDOM OF GOD

 

Sahaja Yoga

" spontaneous union "

 

" You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power

that created you. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

 

" Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come for

this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

 

 

 

PHOTO OF SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI with Her name underneath

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

 

 

 

" These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last Judgment and in the

Koran as Qiyamah - the Resurrection Time. Astrologically it is also called the

Age of Aquarius, the Time of Rebirth and of great spiritual development on the

Earth. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

 

" In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called as

Shri Kalki, there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for

them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last

Judgment. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

 

 

http://www.adishakti.org

 

http://www.adi-shakti.org

 

http://www.holyspirit-shekinah.org

 

http://www.al-qiyamah.org

 

http://www.great-spirit-mother.org

 

http://www.aykaa-mayee.org

 

http://great-spirit-mother.org

 

http://www.tao-mother.org

 

 

2)The Religions chart with brief points of further reference

 

So far, I've been unable to produce this copy in readable form on the forum, but

I'm sure something can be worked out yet.

 

3) For classes I'll use a portion of the following as time permits, to introduce

the fact that there are many similarities found in religions. This can be

expanded on very specifically with the religions chart/heart centre where

resides the Spirit.. later on.

 

a) HEAVEN IS WITHIN

 

The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo here!

or, lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. Christianity

 

What the undveloped man seeks is outside, what the advanced man seeks is within

himself. Confucianism

 

If you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the absolute Law

but some inferior teaching. Buddhism

 

God bides hidden in the hearts of all. Hinduism

 

Why wilt thou go into the jungles? What do you hope to find there?

Even as the scent dwells within the flower, so God within thine own

heart ever abides. Seek Him with earnestness and find Him there. Sikhism

 

 

b) MAN IS CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE

 

God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him. Judaism

 

The individual soul is nothing else in essence than universal soul. Hinduism

 

On God's own nature has been molded man's. Islam

 

God is concealed in every heart, His light is in every heart. Sikhism

 

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of god dwelleth

in you. Christianity

 

c)KNOW THY SELF SOCRATES (great for Philosophy classes)

 

First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take

the speck out of your brother's eye. Christianity

 

He who knows others is discerning; he who knows himself is wise. Taoism

 

The faults of others we see easily, our own are very difficult to see. Our

neighbour's faults we winnow eagerly as chaff from grain, our own we hide away

as a cheat hides a losing roll of the dice. Buddhism

 

They who quarrel with others,instead of quarreling with their own hearts, waste

their lives. Sikhism

 

If you love others, and affection is not reurned, look into your love. if you

rule others, and they are unruly, look into your own wisdom. If you treat others

politely and they do not return your politeness, look into your respect. If your

desires are not fulfilled, turn inward and examine yourself. Confucianism

 

Reference:

Oneness - Great Principles shared by all Religions - by Jeffrey Moss

 

 

4) Some material gathered to connect Sahaja Yoga with Muslims using their

terminolgy:

 

a) Jagbir's info from the forum:

 

He (You) will need the Baptism of Allah(surah 2:138)so that he can take part in

Al-Qiyamah (surah 75:1-40), as it is indeed Al Qadr, the Night of Power (surah

97:1-5)...and that this Great News (78:1-5 Al Naba') has been delivered by His

Ruh prophesied to collect, promulgate, recite, and explain Allah's (SWT) command

to commence and witness the Resurrection.

 

 

Fatima, Mary and the Divine Feminine in Islam at

http://www.sol.com.au/kor/22 02.htm

especially:

 

A Sufi Ode to the Divine Mother

 

On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You

Wherever I go I wear Your image in my heart

Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember Your image

and my spirit rises a thousand fold

Your Advent is the blossom time of the Universe

O Mother You have showered Your choicest blessings upon me

Also remember me on the Day of Judgment

I don't know if I will go to heaven or hell

But wherever I go, please always abide in me.

 

 

" That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths, but their hands will speak to us,

and their feet bear witness, to all that they did. "

Koran, Chapter XXXVI.Verse 65 Sura Yasin

 

5) printed copy from adishaki.org site of the many Shri Mataji quotes concerning

Her identity and Resurrection, Last Judgment.

 

6) Already mentioned is the drawing of Kuan Yin I obtained at a Chinese New Year

Festival I attended a number of times, in which the symbol of the Kundalini/Holy

Spirit/Kuan Yin at Sahasrara is shown. I find this is especially awesome when

just-realized seekers/volunteers at the festival understand the significance of

that feminine figure.

 

In a setting such as a Chinese New Year's Festival there are many intriguing

ways in which to initiate a 'Sahaj'conversation - such as what has just been

mentioned re Kuan Yin..or, the lion dance can relate to Shri Durga's vehicle, as

can the dragon/serpent to Kundalini, Buddha, Maitreya, visiting/wanting to visit

China, India ...

 

Regards,

 

Gerlinde

 

 

, " Violet " <violetubb wrote:

>

> , " magdca " <gerlindesattler@>

wrote:

> >

> > , " Violet " <violetubb@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gerlinde (and All),

> > >

> > > i hear that you are successfully giving Self-realization in your local

area while at the same time giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront.

Would you please share with us how you are doing it, as i am sure this would

encourage others to do likewise. It would be helpful to know what kind of an

approach you are using. i am sure there are many Sahaja Yogis who would be more

than willing, if they could see their way forward, to present the full message

of Sahaja Yoga upfront and in person in their own local area.

> > >

> > > Warm Regards,

> > >

> > > violet

> >

> >

> > Dear Violet and All,

> >

> > I'd like to share a brief background here of my own journey to 'presenting

the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront'.

> >

> > Even before my 'unexpected, accidental' discovery of the adishakti.org site,

I had always felt the strong desire to spread Sahaja Yoga. My participation in

giving Self-Realization within the collective format gave me some basic

grounding, but I soon wanted to spread this to more people within expanded

venues. I began, so to speak, to test the public waters for myself.

> >

> > So, in order to see how giving Self-Realization by myself would work, I

tried it on my own at first on a one-on-one basis. For me the difficult aspect

was to find a way to initiate a conversation and to move it towards actually

giving Self-Realization. I soon found many things could begin a connection: a

candle, symbol such as a spiral, a picture book about travel... Often my

attention would also be drawn to someone and I soon understood that that

happened for a reason.

> >

> > Once my confidence became more established I wanted to connect with groups

of people - common interest groups - health, crafts, service groups, Senior

Citizens in Retirement Homes, schools teaching World Religions, Native groups

and so on...

> >

> > Although initially my main emphasis was to give Self-Realization, I also

wanted people to understand Sahaja Yoga in greater depth. Internally I soon

began chafing at the implied, restrictive expectations I felt within the

collective and with the discovery of adishakti.org I realized my uneasiness was

well-founded.

> >

> > The next big challenge was to present Shri Mataji's Identitiy and full

message and see what reactions resulted from this disclosure coming from a

solitary local individual.

> >

> > One of the first venues for this 'experiment' was at a University Student

Women's Club. One response to the full disclosure was from a young student who

said with emotion that she knew, as soon as Shri Mataji started speaking on the

Self-Realization tape that I played that day, that She was someone

extraordinary!

> >

> > Another young World Religions high school student came up to me shyly after

class and with her teacher standing next to me, said, " That was AWESOME! "

> >

> > And after discovering the connection of the White Buffalo Calf Woman and

Shri Mataji and getting her Self-Realization, the young Native Woman I met at my

second Pow Wow burst into tears and hugged me.

> >

> > Just recently I had the occasion to present Sahaja Yoga for the fourth year

at a University's Wellness Fair. This was the third year for full disclosure

there - six hours sped by, busy with many interactions, discussion, meditation

basics, and Self-Realization for people of different faiths. A few weren't

interested and merely shrugged and declined.

> >

> > My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the attention is

drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the adishakti.org URLs,

together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The Advent and/or Meta

Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of Kuan Yin with a

feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when time permits to

people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara.

> >

> > Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together with

interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section.

> >

> > In conclusion, I've used these past several years to present Shri Mataji's

message and Identity in full wherever I can and have overall found a decidedly

positive reaction. Anyone who is disinterested is free to decline. In a class,

for example, I always say that participation is entirely voluntary, since

everyone's freedom is respected.

> >

> > After speaking of the general overall success of presenting a full

disclosure, I would like to share with you my observation of an overriding

challenge regarding what may also be required to direct the public's attention

towards Shri Mataji.

> >

> > It is that, after the full disclosure has been presented and

Self-Realization has been given and a brief discussion follows, except for

connecting again with the inner circle, so to speak, of the adishakti.org

internet sites, these newly Realized souls never hear or see another word about

WHO Shri Mataji is, WHAT HER complete message IS from an outside independent

venue of newspaper, magazine, radio, TV, talk show, film etc.

> >

> > As a direct result of this lack of confirmation or even discussion of the

importance and relevance of what has just been experienced, I'm wondering how

many people just forget about this experience and become reinvolved in the

mundane world.

> >

> > In general, there's little in the illusory outside world which draws the

attention again to Shri Mataji, the Holy Spirit, and the Resurrection Time,

Salvation via the media of film, newspaper, magazine, radio, talk shows, or

interviews as a necessary independent announcement/backup/discussion of the

Truth that has just been presented.

> >

> > With each yogi(ni) beginning and continuing to present Shri Mataji's full

message individually as well as collectively, however, it will certainly be ever

more likely that this vital knowledge and experience may indeed come to the

attention of the vast public, not only through the hugely accessible and vitally

important internet's adishakti.org sites but also through other powerful media

that the public accesses daily such as radio, TV.

> >

> > In closing, I'd like to say that it's been an outstanding, reaffirming

experience for me to have met so many seekers who have been told the full Truth

- a wonderful experience for all of us to continue to look forward to.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Gerlinde

> >

>

>

> Dear Gerlinde and All,

>

> I am absolutely thrilled with everything you describe and the response you

have received is fantastic! i love the natural way in which you are presenting

the full message of Sahaja Yoga, with the use of various items of interest

displayed on your table which become 'talking points' leading to

Self-realization if the person in their freedom wishes to have it. i like the

fact that there is no 'pat formula' but that you are just giving it from your

Self.

>

> The pamphlets of Shri Mataji's words, and of the different religions, and the

chart you have made up are, i believe, just what's needed for others to see a

way forward to giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you be

willing for these to be put on the forum somewhere where others could have

access to them and print them off for their use, also?

>

> Could you please describe how you go through the giving of the

Self-realization, that is, how do you do it for a Group as compared to giving

Self-realization to the individual person lined up at a Trade Fair, for example.

>

> Thank you so much for all your innovations that you have shared with us! i

hope it results in many more having the confidence to give the full message of

Sahaja Yoga upfront in their local community.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> violet

>

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Dear Gerlinde, Jagbir, and All,

 

Thank you so much for this information, Gerlinde, and that you are happy to

share your method and materials with us. It is such a great help that you have

experimented and can now share with us the experience and information that you

have gained. It will be a great starting base for others who also wish to

publicly and upfront, present the full message of the Divine Feminine, Adi

Shakti, Kingdom of God. (You really must congratulate yourself on spearheading

this most important of efforts!)

 

To learn how to present Sahaja Yoga in a new way, will be a learning process for

all of us. And of course, a vital part of this process is to have the tools we

need such as a satisfactory complement of pamphlets/charts/information, etc.

 

Your 'Presentation Table' is of 'particular' interest to me--and this is how you

describe it:

 

" My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the attention is

drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the adishakti.org URLs,

together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The Advent and/or Meta

Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of Kuan Yin with a

feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when time permits to

people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara. "

 

(1) Okay--so you have a table which has a Photo of Shri Mataji on it to which a

person's attention can be drawn, but there is no candle placed directly in front

of the Photo nor is there any incense being burned, but a nicely scented candle

can be burning elsewhere on the table. And, this is sensitive to the Western

mindset that often feels uncomfortable or ill at ease when faced with an obvious

Eastern-looking 'Altar Table'.

 

(2) While we are on the topic of a 'Presentation Table', could you please take a

photo of your preferred 'Presentation Table', or do a depiction of it (but i

would prefer a photo) so that we would have a suitable Visual Aid to which we

can refer to yogis in future, who wish to work with us. Also, do you use a

tablecloth and if so, what kind? Would a pretty cotton floral one be preferable

over a heavily incensed Indian one...again being sensitive to the Western

mindset.

 

(3) Also--you have a pamphlet on the table with a Main Heading, Sub-Heading,

four (4) quotes from Shri Mataji, Her picture, and the adishakti.org URLs:

 

 

---

[beginning of Sample Pamphlet]

---

 

> DIVINE FEMININE ADI SHAKTI THE KINGDOM OF GOD

>

> Sahaja Yoga

> " spontaneous union "

>

> " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the

power that created you. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come for

this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

>

> PHOTO OF SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI with Her name underneath

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

>

> " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last Judgment and in

the Koran as Qiyamah - the Resurrection Time. Astrologically it is also called

the Age of Aquarius, the Time of Rebirth and of great spiritual development on

the Earth. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called

as Shri Kalki, there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for

them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last

Judgment. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

> http://www.adishakti.org

>

> http://www.adi-shakti.org

>

> http://www.holyspirit-shekinah.org

>

> http://www.al-qiyamah.org

>

> http://www.great-spirit-mother.org

>

> http://www.aykaa-mayee.org>

>

> http://www.tao-mother.org

 

----

[Ending of Sample Pamphlet]

----

 

(Please Note: There were 2 URLs for http://www.great-spirit-mother.org so i

deleted one of them.)

 

 

(4) Okay--continuing on, Gerlinde, you say that:

 

" Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together with

interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section. "

 

/message/10676

 

Both Jagbir and i have now seen this chart and it is an excellent tool for

highlighting the equivalents/similarities in the different religions. As you

say, there are still some gaps of comparative religion where we need to try and

fill in the appropriate terminology, and with our collective effort and

attention on this, we can complete this to the best of our ability and

knowledge. It would be great if " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108 could

scan the pamphlet and Religions Chart and put them on-line as Jagbir has

suggested.

 

 

(5) The Information Tips that Gerlinde has given for classes, could be another

document to be put on the forum:

 

----

Beginning of Information Tips To Give Classes

----

 

> 3) For classes I'll use a portion of the following as time permits, to

introduce the fact that there are many similarities found in religions. This can

be expanded on very specifically with the religions chart/heart centre where

resides the Spirit.. later on.

>

> a) HEAVEN IS WITHIN

>

> The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo

here! or, lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. Christianity

>

> What the undeveloped man seeks is outside, what the advanced man seeks is

within himself. Confucianism

>

> If you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the absolute

Law but some inferior teaching. Buddhism

>

> God bides hidden in the hearts of all. Hinduism

>

> Why wilt thou go into the jungles? What do you hope to find there?

> Even as the scent dwells within the flower, so God within thine own

> heart ever abides. Seek Him with earnestness and find Him there. Sikhism

>

>

> b) MAN IS CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE

>

> God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him. Judaism

>

> The individual soul is nothing else in essence than universal soul. Hinduism

>

> On God's own nature has been molded man's. Islam

>

> God is concealed in every heart, His light is in every heart. Sikhism

>

> Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of god dwelleth

in you. Christianity

>

> c)KNOW THY SELF SOCRATES (great for Philosophy classes)

>

> First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take

the speck out of your brother's eye. Christianity

>

> He who knows others is discerning; he who knows himself is wise. Taoism

>

> The faults of others we see easily, our own are very difficult to see. Our

neighbour's faults we winnow eagerly as chaff from grain, our own we hide away

as a cheat hides a losing roll of the dice. Buddhism

>

> They who quarrel with others,instead of quarreling with their own hearts,

waste their lives. Sikhism

>

> If you love others, and affection is not returned, look into your love. If you

rule others, and they are unruly, look into your own wisdom. If you treat others

politely and they do not return your politeness, look into your respect. If your

desires are not fulfilled, turn inward and examine yourself. Confucianism

>

> Reference:

> Oneness - Great Principles shared by all Religions - by Jeffrey Moss

>

>

> 4) Some material gathered to connect Sahaja Yoga with Muslims using their

terminology:

>

> a) Jagbir's info from the forum:

>

> He (You) will need the Baptism of Allah(surah 2:138)so that he can take part

in Al-Qiyamah (surah 75:1-40), as it is indeed Al Qadr, the Night of Power

(surah 97:1-5)...and that this Great News (78:1-5 Al Naba') has been delivered

by His Ruh prophesied to collect, promulgate, recite, and explain Allah's (SWT)

command to commence and witness the Resurrection.

>

>

> Fatima, Mary and the Divine Feminine in Islam at

> http://www.sol.com.au/kor/22 02.htm especially:

>

> A Sufi Ode to the Divine Mother

>

> On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You

> Wherever I go I wear Your image in my heart

> Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember Your image

> and my spirit rises a thousand fold

> Your Advent is the blossom time of the Universe

> O Mother You have showered Your choicest blessings upon me

> Also remember me on the Day of Judgment

> I don't know if I will go to heaven or hell

> But wherever I go, please always abide in me.

>

>

> " That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths, but their hands will

> speak to us, and their feet bear witness, to all that they did. "

> Koran, Chapter XXXVI.Verse 65 Sura Yasin

>

> 5) printed copy from adishaki.org site of the many Shri Mataji quotes

concerning Her identity and Resurrection, Last Judgment.

>

> 6) Already mentioned is the drawing of Kuan Yin I obtained at a Chinese New

Year Festival I attended a number of times, in which the symbol of the

Kundalini/Holy Spirit/Kuan Yin at Sahasrara is shown. I find this is especially

awesome when just-realized seekers/volunteers at the festival understand the

significance of that feminine figure.

>

> In a setting such as a Chinese New Year's Festival there are many intriguing

ways in which to initiate a 'Sahaj' conversation - such as what has just been

mentioned re Kuan Yin..or, the lion dance can relate to Shri Durga's vehicle, as

can the dragon/serpent to Kundalini, Buddha, Maitreya, visiting/wanting to visit

China, India

....

 

----

Ending to Information Tips Document

----

 

(6) The Kuan Yin Photo - Gerlinde, could we possibly also have a scan of the

Kuan Yin Photo that you have. This would be a great 'talking point' as you say,

and if we could scan it (if it is feasible) others could use it as you have

suggested.

 

In conclusion, these innovations deserve our best efforts for the Divine

Feminine Adi Shakti Kingdom of God. It will be important for those who

eventually join us to have this method and materials to more easily enable them

to give the message of Sahaja Yoga in full and upfront.

 

regards to all,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " magdca " <gerlindesattler

wrote:

>

> Dear Violet, Jagbir and All,

> In this forum message I'll address some of the materials put together for the

public, whether it is something I use/have available in a World Religions class

setting and/or the individual public at a Fair, Service club ...

>

> The following is the very simple pamphlet which can be easily done on Excel

and 'updated' as time goes on, if desired.

> For example, whereas the initial title on my pamphlet was only Sahaja Yoga

" spontaneous union " , given Jagbir's recent important title update on the

adishakti site which reflects with great relevance what the site/Shri Mataji's

message is all about, I prefer " Divine Feminine Adi Shakti The Kingdom of

God " . If desired, however, as per your own discretion, Sahaja Yoga " spontaneous

union " might also be placed below the main heading or.....

>

> One advantage of this simple pamphlet is that it can be placed four to a page

for use in large numbers of printed copies or two to a page if larger copies are

needed. I've also used this sometimes as one main page in colour placed directly

on the table for prominent display of the full truth at a glance.

>

> For me these four quotes give the profound essence of what we're trying to

convey to the public within usually a very limited amount of time, but an

essence which hopefully spurs on further search via the adishakti.org sites and

even more likely once the participant has also experienced Kundalini awakening.

>

>

> 1)Pamphlet:

>

> DIVINE FEMININE ADI SHAKTI THE KINGDOM OF GOD

>

> Sahaja Yoga

> " spontaneous union "

>

> " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the

power that created you. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come for

this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

>

> PHOTO OF SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI with Her name underneath

>

> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

>

> " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last Judgment and in

the Koran as Qiyamah - the Resurrection Time. Astrologically it is also called

the Age of Aquarius, the Time of Rebirth and of great spiritual development on

the Earth. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

> " In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called

as Shri Kalki, there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for

them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last

Judgment. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>

>

> http://www.adishakti.org

>

> http://www.adi-shakti.org

>

> http://www.holyspirit-shekinah.org

>

> http://www.al-qiyamah.org

>

> http://www.great-spirit-mother.org

>

> http://www.aykaa-mayee.org

>

> http://great-spirit-mother.org

>

> http://www.tao-mother.org

>

>

> 2)The Religions chart with brief points of further reference

>

> So far, I've been unable to produce this copy in readable form on the forum,

but I'm sure something can be worked out yet.

>

> 3) For classes I'll use a portion of the following as time permits, to

introduce the fact that there are many similarities found in religions. This can

be expanded on very specifically with the religions chart/heart centre where

resides the Spirit.. later on.

>

> a) HEAVEN IS WITHIN

>

> The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo

here! or, lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. Christianity

>

> What the undveloped man seeks is outside, what the advanced man seeks is

within himself. Confucianism

>

> If you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the absolute

Law but some inferior teaching. Buddhism

>

> God bides hidden in the hearts of all. Hinduism

>

> Why wilt thou go into the jungles? What do you hope to find there?

> Even as the scent dwells within the flower, so God within thine own

> heart ever abides. Seek Him with earnestness and find Him there. Sikhism

>

>

> b) MAN IS CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE

>

> God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him. Judaism

>

> The individual soul is nothing else in essence than universal soul. Hinduism

>

> On God's own nature has been molded man's. Islam

>

> God is concealed in every heart, His light is in every heart. Sikhism

>

> Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of god dwelleth

in you. Christianity

>

> c)KNOW THY SELF SOCRATES (great for Philosophy classes)

>

> First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take

the speck out of your brother's eye. Christianity

>

> He who knows others is discerning; he who knows himself is wise. Taoism

>

> The faults of others we see easily, our own are very difficult to see. Our

neighbour's faults we winnow eagerly as chaff from grain, our own we hide away

as a cheat hides a losing roll of the dice. Buddhism

>

> They who quarrel with others,instead of quarreling with their own hearts,

waste their lives. Sikhism

>

> If you love others, and affection is not reurned, look into your love. if you

rule others, and they are unruly, look into your own wisdom. If you treat others

politely and they do not return your politeness, look into your respect. If your

desires are not fulfilled, turn inward and examine yourself. Confucianism

>

> Reference:

> Oneness - Great Principles shared by all Religions - by Jeffrey Moss

>

>

> 4) Some material gathered to connect Sahaja Yoga with Muslims using their

terminolgy:

>

> a) Jagbir's info from the forum:

>

> He (You) will need the Baptism of Allah(surah 2:138)so that he can take part

in Al-Qiyamah (surah 75:1-40), as it is indeed Al Qadr, the Night of Power

(surah 97:1-5)...and that this Great News (78:1-5 Al Naba') has been delivered

by His Ruh prophesied to collect, promulgate, recite, and explain Allah's (SWT)

command to commence and witness the Resurrection.

>

>

> Fatima, Mary and the Divine Feminine in Islam at

> http://www.sol.com.au/kor/22 02.htm

> especially:

>

> A Sufi Ode to the Divine Mother

>

> On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You

> Wherever I go I wear Your image in my heart

> Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember Your image

> and my spirit rises a thousand fold

> Your Advent is the blossom time of the Universe

> O Mother You have showered Your choicest blessings upon me

> Also remember me on the Day of Judgment

> I don't know if I will go to heaven or hell

> But wherever I go, please always abide in me.

>

>

> " That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths, but their hands will speak to

us, and their feet bear witness, to all that they did. "

> Koran, Chapter XXXVI.Verse 65 Sura Yasin

>

> 5) printed copy from adishaki.org site of the many Shri Mataji quotes

concerning Her identity and Resurrection, Last Judgment.

>

> 6) Already mentioned is the drawing of Kuan Yin I obtained at a Chinese New

Year Festival I attended a number of times, in which the symbol of the

Kundalini/Holy Spirit/Kuan Yin at Sahasrara is shown. I find this is especially

awesome when just-realized seekers/volunteers at the festival understand the

significance of that feminine figure.

>

> In a setting such as a Chinese New Year's Festival there are many intriguing

ways in which to initiate a 'Sahaj'conversation - such as what has just been

mentioned re Kuan Yin..or, the lion dance can relate to Shri Durga's vehicle, as

can the dragon/serpent to Kundalini, Buddha, Maitreya, visiting/wanting to visit

China, India ...

>

> Regards,

>

> Gerlinde

>

>

> , " Violet " <violetubb@> wrote:

> >

> > , " magdca " <gerlindesattler@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > , " Violet " <violetubb@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gerlinde (and All),

> > > >

> > > > i hear that you are successfully giving Self-realization in your local

area while at the same time giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront.

Would you please share with us how you are doing it, as i am sure this would

encourage others to do likewise. It would be helpful to know what kind of an

approach you are using. i am sure there are many Sahaja Yogis who would be more

than willing, if they could see their way forward, to present the full message

of Sahaja Yoga upfront and in person in their own local area.

> > > >

> > > > Warm Regards,

> > > >

> > > > violet

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Violet and All,

> > >

> > > I'd like to share a brief background here of my own journey to 'presenting

the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront'.

> > >

> > > Even before my 'unexpected, accidental' discovery of the adishakti.org

site, I had always felt the strong desire to spread Sahaja Yoga. My

participation in giving Self-Realization within the collective format gave me

some basic grounding, but I soon wanted to spread this to more people within

expanded venues. I began, so to speak, to test the public waters for myself.

> > >

> > > So, in order to see how giving Self-Realization by myself would work, I

tried it on my own at first on a one-on-one basis. For me the difficult aspect

was to find a way to initiate a conversation and to move it towards actually

giving Self-Realization. I soon found many things could begin a connection: a

candle, symbol such as a spiral, a picture book about travel... Often my

attention would also be drawn to someone and I soon understood that that

happened for a reason.

> > >

> > > Once my confidence became more established I wanted to connect with groups

of people - common interest groups - health, crafts, service groups, Senior

Citizens in Retirement Homes, schools teaching World Religions, Native groups

and so on...

> > >

> > > Although initially my main emphasis was to give Self-Realization, I also

wanted people to understand Sahaja Yoga in greater depth. Internally I soon

began chafing at the implied, restrictive expectations I felt within the

collective and with the discovery of adishakti.org I realized my uneasiness was

well-founded.

> > >

> > > The next big challenge was to present Shri Mataji's Identitiy and full

message and see what reactions resulted from this disclosure coming from a

solitary local individual.

> > >

> > > One of the first venues for this 'experiment' was at a University Student

Women's Club. One response to the full disclosure was from a young student who

said with emotion that she knew, as soon as Shri Mataji started speaking on the

Self-Realization tape that I played that day, that She was someone

extraordinary!

> > >

> > > Another young World Religions high school student came up to me shyly

after class and with her teacher standing next to me, said, " That was AWESOME! "

> > >

> > > And after discovering the connection of the White Buffalo Calf Woman and

Shri Mataji and getting her Self-Realization, the young Native Woman I met at my

second Pow Wow burst into tears and hugged me.

> > >

> > > Just recently I had the occasion to present Sahaja Yoga for the fourth

year at a University's Wellness Fair. This was the third year for full

disclosure there - six hours sped by, busy with many interactions, discussion,

meditation basics, and Self-Realization for people of different faiths. A few

weren't interested and merely shrugged and declined.

> > >

> > > My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the attention

is drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the adishakti.org URLs,

together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The Advent and/or Meta

Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of Kuan Yin with a

feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when time permits to

people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara.

> > >

> > > Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together with

interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section.

> > >

> > > In conclusion, I've used these past several years to present Shri Mataji's

message and Identity in full wherever I can and have overall found a decidedly

positive reaction. Anyone who is disinterested is free to decline. In a class,

for example, I always say that participation is entirely voluntary, since

everyone's freedom is respected.

> > >

> > > After speaking of the general overall success of presenting a full

disclosure, I would like to share with you my observation of an overriding

challenge regarding what may also be required to direct the public's attention

towards Shri Mataji.

> > >

> > > It is that, after the full disclosure has been presented and

Self-Realization has been given and a brief discussion follows, except for

connecting again with the inner circle, so to speak, of the adishakti.org

internet sites, these newly Realized souls never hear or see another word about

WHO Shri Mataji is, WHAT HER complete message IS from an outside independent

venue of newspaper, magazine, radio, TV, talk show, film etc.

> > >

> > > As a direct result of this lack of confirmation or even discussion of the

importance and relevance of what has just been experienced, I'm wondering how

many people just forget about this experience and become reinvolved in the

mundane world.

> > >

> > > In general, there's little in the illusory outside world which draws the

attention again to Shri Mataji, the Holy Spirit, and the Resurrection Time,

Salvation via the media of film, newspaper, magazine, radio, talk shows, or

interviews as a necessary independent announcement/backup/discussion of the

Truth that has just been presented.

> > >

> > > With each yogi(ni) beginning and continuing to present Shri Mataji's full

message individually as well as collectively, however, it will certainly be ever

more likely that this vital knowledge and experience may indeed come to the

attention of the vast public, not only through the hugely accessible and vitally

important internet's adishakti.org sites but also through other powerful media

that the public accesses daily such as radio, TV.

> > >

> > > In closing, I'd like to say that it's been an outstanding, reaffirming

experience for me to have met so many seekers who have been told the full Truth

- a wonderful experience for all of us to continue to look forward to.

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Gerlinde

> > >

> >

> >

> > Dear Gerlinde and All,

> >

> > I am absolutely thrilled with everything you describe and the response you

have received is fantastic! i love the natural way in which you are presenting

the full message of Sahaja Yoga, with the use of various items of interest

displayed on your table which become 'talking points' leading to

Self-realization if the person in their freedom wishes to have it. i like the

fact that there is no 'pat formula' but that you are just giving it from your

Self.

> >

> > The pamphlets of Shri Mataji's words, and of the different religions, and

the chart you have made up are, i believe, just what's needed for others to see

a way forward to giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you be

willing for these to be put on the forum somewhere where others could have

access to them and print them off for their use, also?

> >

> > Could you please describe how you go through the giving of the

Self-realization, that is, how do you do it for a Group as compared to giving

Self-realization to the individual person lined up at a Trade Fair, for example.

> >

> > Thank you so much for all your innovations that you have shared with us! i

hope it results in many more having the confidence to give the full message of

Sahaja Yoga upfront in their local community.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> >

> > violet

> >

>

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Both Jagbir and i have now seen this chart and it is an excellent tool for

highlighting the equivalents/similarities in the different religions. As you

say, there are still some gaps of comparative religion where we need to try and

fill in the appropriate terminology, and with our collective effort and

attention on this, we can complete this to the best of our ability and

knowledge. It would be great if " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108 could scan the

pamphlet and Religions Chart and put them on-line as Jagbir has suggested.

>

 

This is what i have got pure.faith108:

 

http://adishakti.org/religions_chart_and_sahaja_pamplet.xls

 

Is there room for improvement?

 

regards,

 

jagbir

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Jagbir, if you cannot see anywhere to improve it, then it must be fine just as

it is, since you have probably done the most research on religion of all of us!

Thanks very much to " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108@> for making it available on

the forum! All that's left now is to find out how to print it off. Peter said he

would try and help me with that.

 

love to all,

 

violet

 

 

- , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> >

> Both Jagbir and i have now seen this chart and it is an excellent tool for

highlighting the equivalents/similarities in the different religions. As you

say, there are still some gaps of comparative religion where we need to try and

fill in the appropriate terminology, and with our collective effort and

attention on this, we can complete this to the best of our ability and

knowledge. It would be great if " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108@> could scan the

pamphlet and Religions Chart and put them on-line as Jagbir has suggested.

> >

>

> This is what i have got pure.faith108:

>

> http://adishakti.org/religions_chart_and_sahaja_pamplet.xls

>

> Is there room for improvement?

>

> regards,

>

> jagbir

>

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Dear Violet, Jagbir and All,

 

For those who are new to this idea of presenting the full message of Sahaja Yoga

upfront in diverse venues alone or with others, may I just say that being

involved in passing along this gift of Self-Realization and Shri Mataji's full

message to others thirsty for this knowledge and experience is truly miraculous.

The experiences one encounters remain solidly in the heart.

 

 

Here are some answers to your queries, Violet:

 

(1) Okay--so you have a table which has a Photo of Shri Mataji on it to which a

person's attention can be drawn, but there is no candle placed directly in front

of the Photo nor is there any incense being burned, but a nicely scented candle

can be burning elsewhere on the table. And, this is sensitive to the Western

mindset that often feels uncomfortable or ill at ease when faced with an obvious

Eastern-looking 'Altar Table'.

 

[My particular table for public programs or classroom programs is not like an

altar at all. It's really very simple, with a colourful tablecloth, (cotton is

probably preferable, but I don't always have cotton) or several coordinating

items on which Shri Mataji's 8 " x10 " photo is placed in the centre and other

informative items placed more along the sides. I keep things more generalized

rather than " Indian " or anything very specific to another culture. However, I

think that's up to the individual to try out personally, depending where in the

world he/she is located or their own preference.

 

Most places do expect one to bring one's own tablecloth. It's better to find

that out beforehand. Shri Mataji's photo is accompanied by a small candle

usually since a candle tends to be connected with something spiritual. It

remains unlit, both in schools and in the public venue since most places do not

want a lit candle for safety concerns. Sometimes I omit the candle entirely.

Incense is never used by me. The four-quotation pamphlets and adishakti.org URLs

are given out to the newly Self-Realized as well as anyone/everyone interested.

 

 

(6) The Kuan Yin Photo - Gerlinde, could we possibly also have a scan of the

Kuan Yin Photo that you have. This would be a great 'talking point' as you say,

and if we could scan it (if it is feasible) others could use it as you have

suggested.

 

[This photo, Violet, is already " plastic-wrapped " and about 11x14 " . Can this be

scanned? I don't own a scanner, or know the first thing about scanning, but I

could probably go to get it scanned somewhere, if that's viable.

 

An aside:

Today before passing around the Kuan Yin photo at the end of a school World

Religions class, I asked the students to note what was pictured on top of Her

head. Several responded they noted a feminine being and something that looked

like flames or 'burning' surrounding Her.

 

I proceeded to explain the flames/burning, as the " thousand petalled lotus

(cool)and asked who recognized the term " tongues of flames " . One young girl knew

that term as coming from the bible at Pentecost and so the understanding came

about of the parallels here in Buddhism, the Bible, Sahasrara and what they just

experienced coming from the fontanel.

 

When I asked who did they think this feminine personage on top of Kuan Yin's

head was - one young fellow knew right away, exactly who! - " The Mother " he

said.

 

Their teacher also got his Self-Realization!

 

Regards,

Gerlinde

 

 

 

 

 

, " Violet " <violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear Gerlinde, Jagbir, and All,

>

> Thank you so much for this information, Gerlinde, and that you are happy to

share your method and materials with us. It is such a great help that you have

experimented and can now share with us the experience and information that you

have gained. It will be a great starting base for others who also wish to

publicly and upfront, present the full message of the Divine Feminine, Adi

Shakti, Kingdom of God. (You really must congratulate yourself on spearheading

this most important of efforts!)

>

> To learn how to present Sahaja Yoga in a new way, will be a learning process

for all of us. And of course, a vital part of this process is to have the tools

we need such as a satisfactory complement of pamphlets/charts/information, etc.

>

> Your 'Presentation Table' is of 'particular' interest to me--and this is how

you describe it:

>

> " My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the attention is

drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the adishakti.org URLs,

together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The Advent and/or Meta

Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of Kuan Yin with a

feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when time permits to

people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara. "

>

> (1) Okay--so you have a table which has a Photo of Shri Mataji on it to which

a person's attention can be drawn, but there is no candle placed directly in

front of the Photo nor is there any incense being burned, but a nicely scented

candle can be burning elsewhere on the table. And, this is sensitive to the

Western mindset that often feels uncomfortable or ill at ease when faced with an

obvious Eastern-looking 'Altar Table'.

>

> (2) While we are on the topic of a 'Presentation Table', could you please take

a photo of your preferred 'Presentation Table', or do a depiction of it (but i

would prefer a photo) so that we would have a suitable Visual Aid to which we

can refer to yogis in future, who wish to work with us. Also, do you use a

tablecloth and if so, what kind? Would a pretty cotton floral one be preferable

over a heavily incensed Indian one...again being sensitive to the Western

mindset.

>

> (3) Also--you have a pamphlet on the table with a Main Heading, Sub-Heading,

four (4) quotes from Shri Mataji, Her picture, and the adishakti.org URLs:

>

>

> ---

> [beginning of Sample Pamphlet]

> ---

>

> > DIVINE FEMININE ADI SHAKTI THE KINGDOM OF GOD

> >

> > Sahaja Yoga

> > " spontaneous union "

> >

> > " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the

power that created you. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come for

this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> >

> > PHOTO OF SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI with Her name underneath

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> >

> > " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last Judgment and in

the Koran as Qiyamah - the Resurrection Time. Astrologically it is also called

the Age of Aquarius, the Time of Rebirth and of great spiritual development on

the Earth. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called

as Shri Kalki, there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for

them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last

Judgment. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> > http://www.adishakti.org

> >

> > http://www.adi-shakti.org

> >

> > http://www.holyspirit-shekinah.org

> >

> > http://www.al-qiyamah.org

> >

> > http://www.great-spirit-mother.org

> >

> > http://www.aykaa-mayee.org>

> >

> > http://www.tao-mother.org

>

> ----

> [Ending of Sample Pamphlet]

> ----

>

> (Please Note: There were 2 URLs for http://www.great-spirit-mother.org so i

deleted one of them.)

>

>

> (4) Okay--continuing on, Gerlinde, you say that:

>

> " Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together with

interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section. "

>

> /message/10676

>

> Both Jagbir and i have now seen this chart and it is an excellent tool for

highlighting the equivalents/similarities in the different religions. As you

say, there are still some gaps of comparative religion where we need to try and

fill in the appropriate terminology, and with our collective effort and

attention on this, we can complete this to the best of our ability and

knowledge. It would be great if " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108 could scan the

pamphlet and Religions Chart and put them on-line as Jagbir has suggested.

>

>

> (5) The Information Tips that Gerlinde has given for classes, could be another

document to be put on the forum:

>

> ----

> Beginning of Information Tips To Give Classes

> ----

>

> > 3) For classes I'll use a portion of the following as time permits, to

introduce the fact that there are many similarities found in religions. This can

be expanded on very specifically with the religions chart/heart centre where

resides the Spirit.. later on.

> >

> > a) HEAVEN IS WITHIN

> >

> > The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo

here! or, lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. Christianity

> >

> > What the undeveloped man seeks is outside, what the advanced man seeks is

within himself. Confucianism

> >

> > If you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the absolute

Law but some inferior teaching. Buddhism

> >

> > God bides hidden in the hearts of all. Hinduism

> >

> > Why wilt thou go into the jungles? What do you hope to find there?

> > Even as the scent dwells within the flower, so God within thine own

> > heart ever abides. Seek Him with earnestness and find Him there. Sikhism

> >

> >

> > b) MAN IS CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE

> >

> > God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him.

Judaism

> >

> > The individual soul is nothing else in essence than universal soul. Hinduism

> >

> > On God's own nature has been molded man's. Islam

> >

> > God is concealed in every heart, His light is in every heart. Sikhism

> >

> > Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of god

dwelleth in you. Christianity

> >

> > c)KNOW THY SELF SOCRATES (great for Philosophy classes)

> >

> > First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to

take the speck out of your brother's eye. Christianity

> >

> > He who knows others is discerning; he who knows himself is wise. Taoism

> >

> > The faults of others we see easily, our own are very difficult to see. Our

neighbour's faults we winnow eagerly as chaff from grain, our own we hide away

as a cheat hides a losing roll of the dice. Buddhism

> >

> > They who quarrel with others,instead of quarreling with their own hearts,

waste their lives. Sikhism

> >

> > If you love others, and affection is not returned, look into your love. If

you rule others, and they are unruly, look into your own wisdom. If you treat

others politely and they do not return your politeness, look into your respect.

If your desires are not fulfilled, turn inward and examine yourself.

Confucianism

> >

> > Reference:

> > Oneness - Great Principles shared by all Religions - by Jeffrey Moss

> >

> >

> > 4) Some material gathered to connect Sahaja Yoga with Muslims using their

terminology:

> >

> > a) Jagbir's info from the forum:

> >

> > He (You) will need the Baptism of Allah(surah 2:138)so that he can take part

in Al-Qiyamah (surah 75:1-40), as it is indeed Al Qadr, the Night of Power

(surah 97:1-5)...and that this Great News (78:1-5 Al Naba') has been delivered

by His Ruh prophesied to collect, promulgate, recite, and explain Allah's (SWT)

command to commence and witness the Resurrection.

> >

> >

> > Fatima, Mary and the Divine Feminine in Islam at

> > http://www.sol.com.au/kor/22 02.htm especially:

> >

> > A Sufi Ode to the Divine Mother

> >

> > On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You

> > Wherever I go I wear Your image in my heart

> > Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember Your image

> > and my spirit rises a thousand fold

> > Your Advent is the blossom time of the Universe

> > O Mother You have showered Your choicest blessings upon me

> > Also remember me on the Day of Judgment

> > I don't know if I will go to heaven or hell

> > But wherever I go, please always abide in me.

> >

> >

> > " That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths, but their hands will

> > speak to us, and their feet bear witness, to all that they did. "

> > Koran, Chapter XXXVI.Verse 65 Sura Yasin

> >

> > 5) printed copy from adishaki.org site of the many Shri Mataji quotes

concerning Her identity and Resurrection, Last Judgment.

> >

> > 6) Already mentioned is the drawing of Kuan Yin I obtained at a Chinese New

Year Festival I attended a number of times, in which the symbol of the

Kundalini/Holy Spirit/Kuan Yin at Sahasrara is shown. I find this is especially

awesome when just-realized seekers/volunteers at the festival understand the

significance of that feminine figure.

> >

> > In a setting such as a Chinese New Year's Festival there are many intriguing

ways in which to initiate a 'Sahaj' conversation - such as what has just been

mentioned re Kuan Yin..or, the lion dance can relate to Shri Durga's vehicle, as

can the dragon/serpent to Kundalini, Buddha, Maitreya, visiting/wanting to visit

China, India

> ...

>

> ----

> Ending to Information Tips Document

> ----

>

> (6) The Kuan Yin Photo - Gerlinde, could we possibly also have a scan of the

Kuan Yin Photo that you have. This would be a great 'talking point' as you say,

and if we could scan it (if it is feasible) others could use it as you have

suggested.

>

> In conclusion, these innovations deserve our best efforts for the Divine

Feminine Adi Shakti Kingdom of God. It will be important for those who

eventually join us to have this method and materials to more easily enable them

to give the message of Sahaja Yoga in full and upfront.

>

> regards to all,

>

> violet

>

>

>

> , " magdca " <gerlindesattler@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Violet, Jagbir and All,

> > In this forum message I'll address some of the materials put together for

the public, whether it is something I use/have available in a World Religions

class setting and/or the individual public at a Fair, Service club ...

> >

> > The following is the very simple pamphlet which can be easily done on Excel

and 'updated' as time goes on, if desired.

> > For example, whereas the initial title on my pamphlet was only Sahaja Yoga

" spontaneous union " , given Jagbir's recent important title update on the

adishakti site which reflects with great relevance what the site/Shri Mataji's

message is all about, I prefer " Divine Feminine Adi Shakti The Kingdom of

God " . If desired, however, as per your own discretion, Sahaja Yoga " spontaneous

union " might also be placed below the main heading or.....

> >

> > One advantage of this simple pamphlet is that it can be placed four to a

page for use in large numbers of printed copies or two to a page if larger

copies are needed. I've also used this sometimes as one main page in colour

placed directly on the table for prominent display of the full truth at a

glance.

> >

> > For me these four quotes give the profound essence of what we're trying to

convey to the public within usually a very limited amount of time, but an

essence which hopefully spurs on further search via the adishakti.org sites and

even more likely once the participant has also experienced Kundalini awakening.

> >

> >

> > 1)Pamphlet:

> >

> > DIVINE FEMININE ADI SHAKTI THE KINGDOM OF GOD

> >

> > Sahaja Yoga

> > " spontaneous union "

> >

> > " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the

power that created you. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come for

this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> >

> > PHOTO OF SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI with Her name underneath

> >

> > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> >

> > " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last Judgment and in

the Koran as Qiyamah - the Resurrection Time. Astrologically it is also called

the Age of Aquarius, the Time of Rebirth and of great spiritual development on

the Earth. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> > " In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu called

as Shri Kalki, there is a time given to human beings to rectify themselves, for

them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is called as Last

Judgment. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> >

> >

> > http://www.adishakti.org

> >

> > http://www.adi-shakti.org

> >

> > http://www.holyspirit-shekinah.org

> >

> > http://www.al-qiyamah.org

> >

> > http://www.great-spirit-mother.org

> >

> > http://www.aykaa-mayee.org

> >

> > http://great-spirit-mother.org

> >

> > http://www.tao-mother.org

> >

> >

> > 2)The Religions chart with brief points of further reference

> >

> > So far, I've been unable to produce this copy in readable form on the forum,

but I'm sure something can be worked out yet.

> >

> > 3) For classes I'll use a portion of the following as time permits, to

introduce the fact that there are many similarities found in religions. This can

be expanded on very specifically with the religions chart/heart centre where

resides the Spirit.. later on.

> >

> > a) HEAVEN IS WITHIN

> >

> > The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo

here! or, lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. Christianity

> >

> > What the undveloped man seeks is outside, what the advanced man seeks is

within himself. Confucianism

> >

> > If you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the absolute

Law but some inferior teaching. Buddhism

> >

> > God bides hidden in the hearts of all. Hinduism

> >

> > Why wilt thou go into the jungles? What do you hope to find there?

> > Even as the scent dwells within the flower, so God within thine own

> > heart ever abides. Seek Him with earnestness and find Him there. Sikhism

> >

> >

> > b) MAN IS CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE

> >

> > God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him.

Judaism

> >

> > The individual soul is nothing else in essence than universal soul. Hinduism

> >

> > On God's own nature has been molded man's. Islam

> >

> > God is concealed in every heart, His light is in every heart. Sikhism

> >

> > Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of god

dwelleth in you. Christianity

> >

> > c)KNOW THY SELF SOCRATES (great for Philosophy classes)

> >

> > First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to

take the speck out of your brother's eye. Christianity

> >

> > He who knows others is discerning; he who knows himself is wise. Taoism

> >

> > The faults of others we see easily, our own are very difficult to see. Our

neighbour's faults we winnow eagerly as chaff from grain, our own we hide away

as a cheat hides a losing roll of the dice. Buddhism

> >

> > They who quarrel with others,instead of quarreling with their own hearts,

waste their lives. Sikhism

> >

> > If you love others, and affection is not reurned, look into your love. if

you rule others, and they are unruly, look into your own wisdom. If you treat

others politely and they do not return your politeness, look into your respect.

If your desires are not fulfilled, turn inward and examine yourself.

Confucianism

> >

> > Reference:

> > Oneness - Great Principles shared by all Religions - by Jeffrey Moss

> >

> >

> > 4) Some material gathered to connect Sahaja Yoga with Muslims using their

terminolgy:

> >

> > a) Jagbir's info from the forum:

> >

> > He (You) will need the Baptism of Allah(surah 2:138)so that he can take part

in Al-Qiyamah (surah 75:1-40), as it is indeed Al Qadr, the Night of Power

(surah 97:1-5)...and that this Great News (78:1-5 Al Naba') has been delivered

by His Ruh prophesied to collect, promulgate, recite, and explain Allah's (SWT)

command to commence and witness the Resurrection.

> >

> >

> > Fatima, Mary and the Divine Feminine in Islam at

> > http://www.sol.com.au/kor/22 02.htm

> > especially:

> >

> > A Sufi Ode to the Divine Mother

> >

> > On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You

> > Wherever I go I wear Your image in my heart

> > Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember Your image

> > and my spirit rises a thousand fold

> > Your Advent is the blossom time of the Universe

> > O Mother You have showered Your choicest blessings upon me

> > Also remember me on the Day of Judgment

> > I don't know if I will go to heaven or hell

> > But wherever I go, please always abide in me.

> >

> >

> > " That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths, but their hands will speak to

us, and their feet bear witness, to all that they did. "

> > Koran, Chapter XXXVI.Verse 65 Sura Yasin

> >

> > 5) printed copy from adishaki.org site of the many Shri Mataji quotes

concerning Her identity and Resurrection, Last Judgment.

> >

> > 6) Already mentioned is the drawing of Kuan Yin I obtained at a Chinese New

Year Festival I attended a number of times, in which the symbol of the

Kundalini/Holy Spirit/Kuan Yin at Sahasrara is shown. I find this is especially

awesome when just-realized seekers/volunteers at the festival understand the

significance of that feminine figure.

> >

> > In a setting such as a Chinese New Year's Festival there are many intriguing

ways in which to initiate a 'Sahaj'conversation - such as what has just been

mentioned re Kuan Yin..or, the lion dance can relate to Shri Durga's vehicle, as

can the dragon/serpent to Kundalini, Buddha, Maitreya, visiting/wanting to visit

China, India ...

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Gerlinde

> >

> >

> > , " Violet " <violetubb@> wrote:

> > >

> > > , " magdca " <gerlindesattler@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > , " Violet " <violetubb@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gerlinde (and All),

> > > > >

> > > > > i hear that you are successfully giving Self-realization in your local

area while at the same time giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront.

Would you please share with us how you are doing it, as i am sure this would

encourage others to do likewise. It would be helpful to know what kind of an

approach you are using. i am sure there are many Sahaja Yogis who would be more

than willing, if they could see their way forward, to present the full message

of Sahaja Yoga upfront and in person in their own local area.

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > violet

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Violet and All,

> > > >

> > > > I'd like to share a brief background here of my own journey to

'presenting the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront'.

> > > >

> > > > Even before my 'unexpected, accidental' discovery of the adishakti.org

site, I had always felt the strong desire to spread Sahaja Yoga. My

participation in giving Self-Realization within the collective format gave me

some basic grounding, but I soon wanted to spread this to more people within

expanded venues. I began, so to speak, to test the public waters for myself.

> > > >

> > > > So, in order to see how giving Self-Realization by myself would work, I

tried it on my own at first on a one-on-one basis. For me the difficult aspect

was to find a way to initiate a conversation and to move it towards actually

giving Self-Realization. I soon found many things could begin a connection: a

candle, symbol such as a spiral, a picture book about travel... Often my

attention would also be drawn to someone and I soon understood that that

happened for a reason.

> > > >

> > > > Once my confidence became more established I wanted to connect with

groups of people - common interest groups - health, crafts, service groups,

Senior Citizens in Retirement Homes, schools teaching World Religions, Native

groups and so on...

> > > >

> > > > Although initially my main emphasis was to give Self-Realization, I also

wanted people to understand Sahaja Yoga in greater depth. Internally I soon

began chafing at the implied, restrictive expectations I felt within the

collective and with the discovery of adishakti.org I realized my uneasiness was

well-founded.

> > > >

> > > > The next big challenge was to present Shri Mataji's Identitiy and full

message and see what reactions resulted from this disclosure coming from a

solitary local individual.

> > > >

> > > > One of the first venues for this 'experiment' was at a University

Student Women's Club. One response to the full disclosure was from a young

student who said with emotion that she knew, as soon as Shri Mataji started

speaking on the Self-Realization tape that I played that day, that She was

someone extraordinary!

> > > >

> > > > Another young World Religions high school student came up to me shyly

after class and with her teacher standing next to me, said, " That was AWESOME! "

> > > >

> > > > And after discovering the connection of the White Buffalo Calf Woman and

Shri Mataji and getting her Self-Realization, the young Native Woman I met at my

second Pow Wow burst into tears and hugged me.

> > > >

> > > > Just recently I had the occasion to present Sahaja Yoga for the fourth

year at a University's Wellness Fair. This was the third year for full

disclosure there - six hours sped by, busy with many interactions, discussion,

meditation basics, and Self-Realization for people of different faiths. A few

weren't interested and merely shrugged and declined.

> > > >

> > > > My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the

attention is drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the

adishakti.org URLs, together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The

Advent and/or Meta Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of

Kuan Yin with a feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when

time permits to people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara.

> > > >

> > > > Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together

with interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section.

> > > >

> > > > In conclusion, I've used these past several years to present Shri

Mataji's message and Identity in full wherever I can and have overall found a

decidedly positive reaction. Anyone who is disinterested is free to decline. In

a class, for example, I always say that participation is entirely voluntary,

since everyone's freedom is respected.

> > > >

> > > > After speaking of the general overall success of presenting a full

disclosure, I would like to share with you my observation of an overriding

challenge regarding what may also be required to direct the public's attention

towards Shri Mataji.

> > > >

> > > > It is that, after the full disclosure has been presented and

Self-Realization has been given and a brief discussion follows, except for

connecting again with the inner circle, so to speak, of the adishakti.org

internet sites, these newly Realized souls never hear or see another word about

WHO Shri Mataji is, WHAT HER complete message IS from an outside independent

venue of newspaper, magazine, radio, TV, talk show, film etc.

> > > >

> > > > As a direct result of this lack of confirmation or even discussion of

the importance and relevance of what has just been experienced, I'm wondering

how many people just forget about this experience and become reinvolved in the

mundane world.

> > > >

> > > > In general, there's little in the illusory outside world which draws the

attention again to Shri Mataji, the Holy Spirit, and the Resurrection Time,

Salvation via the media of film, newspaper, magazine, radio, talk shows, or

interviews as a necessary independent announcement/backup/discussion of the

Truth that has just been presented.

> > > >

> > > > With each yogi(ni) beginning and continuing to present Shri Mataji's

full message individually as well as collectively, however, it will certainly be

ever more likely that this vital knowledge and experience may indeed come to the

attention of the vast public, not only through the hugely accessible and vitally

important internet's adishakti.org sites but also through other powerful media

that the public accesses daily such as radio, TV.

> > > >

> > > > In closing, I'd like to say that it's been an outstanding, reaffirming

experience for me to have met so many seekers who have been told the full Truth

- a wonderful experience for all of us to continue to look forward to.

> > > >

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > Gerlinde

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Gerlinde and All,

> > >

> > > I am absolutely thrilled with everything you describe and the response you

have received is fantastic! i love the natural way in which you are presenting

the full message of Sahaja Yoga, with the use of various items of interest

displayed on your table which become 'talking points' leading to

Self-realization if the person in their freedom wishes to have it. i like the

fact that there is no 'pat formula' but that you are just giving it from your

Self.

> > >

> > > The pamphlets of Shri Mataji's words, and of the different religions, and

the chart you have made up are, i believe, just what's needed for others to see

a way forward to giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you be

willing for these to be put on the forum somewhere where others could have

access to them and print them off for their use, also?

> > >

> > > Could you please describe how you go through the giving of the

Self-realization, that is, how do you do it for a Group as compared to giving

Self-realization to the individual person lined up at a Trade Fair, for example.

> > >

> > > Thank you so much for all your innovations that you have shared with us! i

hope it results in many more having the confidence to give the full message of

Sahaja Yoga upfront in their local community.

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > >

> > > violet

> > >

> >

>

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Dear All,

 

i have successfully printed off the Religions Chart and am very pleased with it.

If anyone needs to know how to do it--once you open the Excel document:

 

(1} Go to the Top-Left-Hand of the Screen

(2) If you do not have a Quick-Print Icon displayed, there is a Drop-Down Box

there, and you can select Quick-Print, which then comes up as an Icon.

(3) Then just press Quick-Print.

 

regards,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " Violet " <violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Jagbir, if you cannot see anywhere to improve it, then it must be fine just as

it is, since you have probably done the most research on religion of all of us!

Thanks very much to " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108@> for making it available on

the forum! All that's left now is to find out how to print it off. Peter said he

would try and help me with that.

>

> love to all,

>

> violet

>

>

> - , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org@>

wrote:

> >

> > >

> > Both Jagbir and i have now seen this chart and it is an excellent tool for

highlighting the equivalents/similarities in the different religions. As you

say, there are still some gaps of comparative religion where we need to try and

fill in the appropriate terminology, and with our collective effort and

attention on this, we can complete this to the best of our ability and

knowledge. It would be great if " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108@> could scan the

pamphlet and Religions Chart and put them on-line as Jagbir has suggested.

> > >

> >

> > This is what i have got pure.faith108:

> >

> > http://adishakti.org/religions_chart_and_sahaja_pamplet.xls

> >

> > Is there room for improvement?

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > jagbir

> >

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Dear Gerlinde, Jagbir, and All,

 

i agree that " passing along this gift of Self-Realization " is truly miraculous

and brings the most joy, which is why there is this interest in learning as much

as we can from your experiences in presenting the full message of Sahaja Yoga,

upfront.

 

So, i will respond below:

 

 

, " magdca " <gerlindesattler

wrote:

>

> Dear Violet, Jagbir and All,

>

> For those who are new to this idea of presenting the full message of Sahaja

Yoga upfront in diverse venues alone or with others, may I just say that being

involved in passing along this gift of Self-Realization and Shri Mataji's full

message to others thirsty for this knowledge and experience is truly miraculous.

The experiences one encounters remain solidly in the heart.

 

[There is no doubt about that! Nothing brings more joy!]

>

>

> Here are some answers to your queries, Violet:

>

> (1) Okay--so you have a table which has a Photo of Shri Mataji on it to which

a person's attention can be drawn, but there is no candle placed directly in

front of the Photo nor is there any incense being burned, but a nicely scented

candle can be burning elsewhere on the table. And, this is sensitive to the

Western mindset that often feels uncomfortable or ill at ease when faced with an

obvious Eastern-looking 'Altar Table'.

>

> [My particular table for public programs or classroom programs is not like an

altar at all. It's really very simple, with a colourful tablecloth, (cotton is

probably preferable, but I don't always have cotton) or several coordinating

items on which Shri Mataji's 8 " x10 " photo is placed in the centre and other

informative items placed more along the sides. I keep things more generalized

rather than " Indian " or anything very specific to another culture. However, I

think that's up to the individual to try out personally, depending where in the

world he/she is located or their own preference.

>

> Most places do expect one to bring one's own tablecloth. It's better to find

that out beforehand. Shri Mataji's photo is accompanied by a small candle

usually since a candle tends to be connected with something spiritual. It

remains unlit, both in schools and in the public venue since most places do not

want a lit candle for safety concerns. Sometimes I omit the candle entirely.

Incense is never used by me. The four-quotation pamphlets and adishakti.org URLs

are given out to the newly Self-Realized as well as anyone/everyone interested.

 

[Thanks, Gerlinde, for the further clarification about the tablecloth and the

candle. So, the candle could be used as a symbol of 'the light' or

enlightenment--even though it is not lit. That is a very good point!]

 

>

>

> (6) The Kuan Yin Photo - Gerlinde, could we possibly also have a scan of the

Kuan Yin Photo that you have. This would be a great 'talking point' as you say,

and if we could scan it (if it is feasible) others could use it as you have

suggested.

>

> [This photo, Violet, is already " plastic-wrapped " and about 11x14 " . Can this

be scanned? I don't own a scanner, or know the first thing about scanning, but I

could probably go to get it scanned somewhere, if that's viable.

 

[Okay--i've done a little experiment, Gerlinde. i took a printout of the

Religions Chart and put it inside a plastic sleeve and photocopied it. It came

out perfectly. i also asked Peter if something laminated could be scanned and he

said yes. So, if you can get it scanned somewhere somewhere that would be great.

This photo of Kuan Yin depicting the 1000-petalled lotus/tongues of fire is, as

you have discovered, a great Visual Aid]:

 

>

> An aside:

> Today before passing around the Kuan Yin photo at the end of a school World

Religions class, I asked the students to note what was pictured on top of Her

head. Several responded they noted a feminine being and something that looked

like flames or 'burning' surrounding Her.

>

> I proceeded to explain the flames/burning, as the " thousand petalled lotus

(cool)and asked who recognized the term " tongues of flames " . One young girl knew

that term as coming from the bible at Pentecost and so the understanding came

about of the parallels here in Buddhism, the Bible, Sahasrara and what they just

experienced coming from the fontanel.

>

> When I asked who did they think this feminine personage on top of Kuan Yin's

head was - one young fellow knew right away, exactly who! - " The Mother " he

said.

>

> Their teacher also got his Self-Realization!

 

[Thanks, Gerlinde, for relating the above happening in the school's World

Religions class. We have covered quite a bit of practical material, tips and

methods. Now--would you please describe your basic routine with regard to (a) a

group and (b) an individual lined up at a Trade Fair, for example. As we are

learning a new approach, how do you pass on the gift of Self-Realization. Could

you please describe that part, especially. Thanks for all your help!]

>

> Regards,

> Gerlinde

 

Warm Regards,

violet

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Violet " <violetubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gerlinde, Jagbir, and All,

> >

> > Thank you so much for this information, Gerlinde, and that you are happy to

share your method and materials with us. It is such a great help that you have

experimented and can now share with us the experience and information that you

have gained. It will be a great starting base for others who also wish to

publicly and upfront, present the full message of the Divine Feminine, Adi

Shakti, Kingdom of God. (You really must congratulate yourself on spearheading

this most important of efforts!)

> >

> > To learn how to present Sahaja Yoga in a new way, will be a learning process

for all of us. And of course, a vital part of this process is to have the tools

we need such as a satisfactory complement of pamphlets/charts/information, etc.

> >

> > Your 'Presentation Table' is of 'particular' interest to me--and this is how

you describe it:

> >

> > " My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the attention

is drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the adishakti.org URLs,

together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The Advent and/or Meta

Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of Kuan Yin with a

feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when time permits to

people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara. "

> >

> > (1) Okay--so you have a table which has a Photo of Shri Mataji on it to

which a person's attention can be drawn, but there is no candle placed directly

in front of the Photo nor is there any incense being burned, but a nicely

scented candle can be burning elsewhere on the table. And, this is sensitive to

the Western mindset that often feels uncomfortable or ill at ease when faced

with an obvious Eastern-looking 'Altar Table'.

> >

> > (2) While we are on the topic of a 'Presentation Table', could you please

take a photo of your preferred 'Presentation Table', or do a depiction of it

(but i would prefer a photo) so that we would have a suitable Visual Aid to

which we can refer to yogis in future, who wish to work with us. Also, do you

use a tablecloth and if so, what kind? Would a pretty cotton floral one be

preferable over a heavily incensed Indian one...again being sensitive to the

Western mindset.

> >

> > (3) Also--you have a pamphlet on the table with a Main Heading, Sub-Heading,

four (4) quotes from Shri Mataji, Her picture, and the adishakti.org URLs:

> >

> >

> > ---

> > [beginning of Sample Pamphlet]

> > ---

> >

> > > DIVINE FEMININE ADI SHAKTI THE KINGDOM OF GOD

> > >

> > > Sahaja Yoga

> > > " spontaneous union "

> > >

> > > " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the

power that created you. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > >

> > > " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come

for this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > PHOTO OF SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI with Her name underneath

> > >

> > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last Judgment and

in the Koran as Qiyamah - the Resurrection Time. Astrologically it is also

called the Age of Aquarius, the Time of Rebirth and of great spiritual

development on the Earth. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > >

> > > " In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu

called as Shri Kalki, there is a time given to human beings to rectify

themselves, for them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is

called as Last Judgment. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.adishakti.org

> > >

> > > http://www.adi-shakti.org

> > >

> > > http://www.holyspirit-shekinah.org

> > >

> > > http://www.al-qiyamah.org

> > >

> > > http://www.great-spirit-mother.org

> > >

> > > http://www.aykaa-mayee.org>

> > >

> > > http://www.tao-mother.org

> >

> > ----

> > [Ending of Sample Pamphlet]

> > ----

> >

> > (Please Note: There were 2 URLs for http://www.great-spirit-mother.org so i

deleted one of them.)

> >

> >

> > (4) Okay--continuing on, Gerlinde, you say that:

> >

> > " Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together with

interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section. "

> >

> > /message/10676

> >

> > Both Jagbir and i have now seen this chart and it is an excellent tool for

highlighting the equivalents/similarities in the different religions. As you

say, there are still some gaps of comparative religion where we need to try and

fill in the appropriate terminology, and with our collective effort and

attention on this, we can complete this to the best of our ability and

knowledge. It would be great if " sahaja_joga " <pure.faith108@> could scan the

pamphlet and Religions Chart and put them on-line as Jagbir has suggested.

> >

> >

> > (5) The Information Tips that Gerlinde has given for classes, could be

another document to be put on the forum:

> >

> > ----

> > Beginning of Information Tips To Give Classes

> > ----

> >

> > > 3) For classes I'll use a portion of the following as time permits, to

introduce the fact that there are many similarities found in religions. This can

be expanded on very specifically with the religions chart/heart centre where

resides the Spirit.. later on.

> > >

> > > a) HEAVEN IS WITHIN

> > >

> > > The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo

here! or, lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. Christianity

> > >

> > > What the undeveloped man seeks is outside, what the advanced man seeks is

within himself. Confucianism

> > >

> > > If you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the

absolute Law but some inferior teaching. Buddhism

> > >

> > > God bides hidden in the hearts of all. Hinduism

> > >

> > > Why wilt thou go into the jungles? What do you hope to find there?

> > > Even as the scent dwells within the flower, so God within thine own

> > > heart ever abides. Seek Him with earnestness and find Him there. Sikhism

> > >

> > >

> > > b) MAN IS CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE

> > >

> > > God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him.

Judaism

> > >

> > > The individual soul is nothing else in essence than universal soul.

Hinduism

> > >

> > > On God's own nature has been molded man's. Islam

> > >

> > > God is concealed in every heart, His light is in every heart. Sikhism

> > >

> > > Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of god

dwelleth in you. Christianity

> > >

> > > c)KNOW THY SELF SOCRATES (great for Philosophy classes)

> > >

> > > First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to

take the speck out of your brother's eye. Christianity

> > >

> > > He who knows others is discerning; he who knows himself is wise. Taoism

> > >

> > > The faults of others we see easily, our own are very difficult to see. Our

neighbour's faults we winnow eagerly as chaff from grain, our own we hide away

as a cheat hides a losing roll of the dice. Buddhism

> > >

> > > They who quarrel with others,instead of quarreling with their own hearts,

waste their lives. Sikhism

> > >

> > > If you love others, and affection is not returned, look into your love. If

you rule others, and they are unruly, look into your own wisdom. If you treat

others politely and they do not return your politeness, look into your respect.

If your desires are not fulfilled, turn inward and examine yourself.

Confucianism

> > >

> > > Reference:

> > > Oneness - Great Principles shared by all Religions - by Jeffrey Moss

> > >

> > >

> > > 4) Some material gathered to connect Sahaja Yoga with Muslims using their

terminology:

> > >

> > > a) Jagbir's info from the forum:

> > >

> > > He (You) will need the Baptism of Allah(surah 2:138)so that he can take

part in Al-Qiyamah (surah 75:1-40), as it is indeed Al Qadr, the Night of Power

(surah 97:1-5)...and that this Great News (78:1-5 Al Naba') has been delivered

by His Ruh prophesied to collect, promulgate, recite, and explain Allah's (SWT)

command to commence and witness the Resurrection.

> > >

> > >

> > > Fatima, Mary and the Divine Feminine in Islam at

> > > http://www.sol.com.au/kor/22 02.htm especially:

> > >

> > > A Sufi Ode to the Divine Mother

> > >

> > > On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You

> > > Wherever I go I wear Your image in my heart

> > > Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember Your image

> > > and my spirit rises a thousand fold

> > > Your Advent is the blossom time of the Universe

> > > O Mother You have showered Your choicest blessings upon me

> > > Also remember me on the Day of Judgment

> > > I don't know if I will go to heaven or hell

> > > But wherever I go, please always abide in me.

> > >

> > >

> > > " That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths, but their hands will

> > > speak to us, and their feet bear witness, to all that they did. "

> > > Koran, Chapter XXXVI.Verse 65 Sura Yasin

> > >

> > > 5) printed copy from adishaki.org site of the many Shri Mataji quotes

concerning Her identity and Resurrection, Last Judgment.

> > >

> > > 6) Already mentioned is the drawing of Kuan Yin I obtained at a Chinese

New Year Festival I attended a number of times, in which the symbol of the

Kundalini/Holy Spirit/Kuan Yin at Sahasrara is shown. I find this is especially

awesome when just-realized seekers/volunteers at the festival understand the

significance of that feminine figure.

> > >

> > > In a setting such as a Chinese New Year's Festival there are many

intriguing ways in which to initiate a 'Sahaj' conversation - such as what has

just been mentioned re Kuan Yin..or, the lion dance can relate to Shri Durga's

vehicle, as can the dragon/serpent to Kundalini, Buddha, Maitreya,

visiting/wanting to visit China, India

> > ...

> >

> > ----

> > Ending to Information Tips Document

> > ----

> >

> > (6) The Kuan Yin Photo - Gerlinde, could we possibly also have a scan of the

Kuan Yin Photo that you have. This would be a great 'talking point' as you say,

and if we could scan it (if it is feasible) others could use it as you have

suggested.

> >

> > In conclusion, these innovations deserve our best efforts for the Divine

Feminine Adi Shakti Kingdom of God. It will be important for those who

eventually join us to have this method and materials to more easily enable them

to give the message of Sahaja Yoga in full and upfront.

> >

> > regards to all,

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> >

> > , " magdca " <gerlindesattler@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Violet, Jagbir and All,

> > > In this forum message I'll address some of the materials put together for

the public, whether it is something I use/have available in a World Religions

class setting and/or the individual public at a Fair, Service club ...

> > >

> > > The following is the very simple pamphlet which can be easily done on

Excel and 'updated' as time goes on, if desired.

> > > For example, whereas the initial title on my pamphlet was only Sahaja Yoga

" spontaneous union " , given Jagbir's recent important title update on the

adishakti site which reflects with great relevance what the site/Shri Mataji's

message is all about, I prefer " Divine Feminine Adi Shakti The Kingdom of

God " . If desired, however, as per your own discretion, Sahaja Yoga " spontaneous

union " might also be placed below the main heading or.....

> > >

> > > One advantage of this simple pamphlet is that it can be placed four to a

page for use in large numbers of printed copies or two to a page if larger

copies are needed. I've also used this sometimes as one main page in colour

placed directly on the table for prominent display of the full truth at a

glance.

> > >

> > > For me these four quotes give the profound essence of what we're trying to

convey to the public within usually a very limited amount of time, but an

essence which hopefully spurs on further search via the adishakti.org sites and

even more likely once the participant has also experienced Kundalini awakening.

> > >

> > >

> > > 1)Pamphlet:

> > >

> > > DIVINE FEMININE ADI SHAKTI THE KINGDOM OF GOD

> > >

> > > Sahaja Yoga

> > > " spontaneous union "

> > >

> > > " You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the

power that created you. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > >

> > > " Declare to all the nations now that I am the Holy Ghost and I have come

for this Special Time, that is, the Resurrection Time. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > PHOTO OF SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI with Her name underneath

> > >

> > > Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > " These are the times described in the Holy Bible as the Last Judgment and

in the Koran as Qiyamah - the Resurrection Time. Astrologically it is also

called the Age of Aquarius, the Time of Rebirth and of great spiritual

development on the Earth. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > >

> > > " In between Jesus Christ and His destroying Incarnation of Mahavishnu

called as Shri Kalki, there is a time given to human beings to rectify

themselves, for them to enter into the Kingdom of God, which in the Bible is

called as Last Judgment. " -Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

> > >

> > >

> > > http://www.adishakti.org

> > >

> > > http://www.adi-shakti.org

> > >

> > > http://www.holyspirit-shekinah.org

> > >

> > > http://www.al-qiyamah.org

> > >

> > > http://www.great-spirit-mother.org

> > >

> > > http://www.aykaa-mayee.org

> > >

> > > http://great-spirit-mother.org

> > >

> > > http://www.tao-mother.org

> > >

> > >

> > > 2)The Religions chart with brief points of further reference

> > >

> > > So far, I've been unable to produce this copy in readable form on the

forum, but I'm sure something can be worked out yet.

> > >

> > > 3) For classes I'll use a portion of the following as time permits, to

introduce the fact that there are many similarities found in religions. This can

be expanded on very specifically with the religions chart/heart centre where

resides the Spirit.. later on.

> > >

> > > a) HEAVEN IS WITHIN

> > >

> > > The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: neither shall they say, Lo

here! or, lo there! for behold, the Kingdom of God is within you. Christianity

> > >

> > > What the undveloped man seeks is outside, what the advanced man seeks is

within himself. Confucianism

> > >

> > > If you think the Law is outside yourself, you are embracing not the

absolute Law but some inferior teaching. Buddhism

> > >

> > > God bides hidden in the hearts of all. Hinduism

> > >

> > > Why wilt thou go into the jungles? What do you hope to find there?

> > > Even as the scent dwells within the flower, so God within thine own

> > > heart ever abides. Seek Him with earnestness and find Him there. Sikhism

> > >

> > >

> > > b) MAN IS CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE

> > >

> > > God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him.

Judaism

> > >

> > > The individual soul is nothing else in essence than universal soul.

Hinduism

> > >

> > > On God's own nature has been molded man's. Islam

> > >

> > > God is concealed in every heart, His light is in every heart. Sikhism

> > >

> > > Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of god

dwelleth in you. Christianity

> > >

> > > c)KNOW THY SELF SOCRATES (great for Philosophy classes)

> > >

> > > First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to

take the speck out of your brother's eye. Christianity

> > >

> > > He who knows others is discerning; he who knows himself is wise. Taoism

> > >

> > > The faults of others we see easily, our own are very difficult to see. Our

neighbour's faults we winnow eagerly as chaff from grain, our own we hide away

as a cheat hides a losing roll of the dice. Buddhism

> > >

> > > They who quarrel with others,instead of quarreling with their own hearts,

waste their lives. Sikhism

> > >

> > > If you love others, and affection is not reurned, look into your love. if

you rule others, and they are unruly, look into your own wisdom. If you treat

others politely and they do not return your politeness, look into your respect.

If your desires are not fulfilled, turn inward and examine yourself.

Confucianism

> > >

> > > Reference:

> > > Oneness - Great Principles shared by all Religions - by Jeffrey Moss

> > >

> > >

> > > 4) Some material gathered to connect Sahaja Yoga with Muslims using their

terminolgy:

> > >

> > > a) Jagbir's info from the forum:

> > >

> > > He (You) will need the Baptism of Allah(surah 2:138)so that he can take

part in Al-Qiyamah (surah 75:1-40), as it is indeed Al Qadr, the Night of Power

(surah 97:1-5)...and that this Great News (78:1-5 Al Naba') has been delivered

by His Ruh prophesied to collect, promulgate, recite, and explain Allah's (SWT)

command to commence and witness the Resurrection.

> > >

> > >

> > > Fatima, Mary and the Divine Feminine in Islam at

> > > http://www.sol.com.au/kor/22 02.htm

> > > especially:

> > >

> > > A Sufi Ode to the Divine Mother

> > >

> > > On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You

> > > Wherever I go I wear Your image in my heart

> > > Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember Your image

> > > and my spirit rises a thousand fold

> > > Your Advent is the blossom time of the Universe

> > > O Mother You have showered Your choicest blessings upon me

> > > Also remember me on the Day of Judgment

> > > I don't know if I will go to heaven or hell

> > > But wherever I go, please always abide in me.

> > >

> > >

> > > " That Day shall We set a seal on their mouths, but their hands will speak

to us, and their feet bear witness, to all that they did. "

> > > Koran, Chapter XXXVI.Verse 65 Sura Yasin

> > >

> > > 5) printed copy from adishaki.org site of the many Shri Mataji quotes

concerning Her identity and Resurrection, Last Judgment.

> > >

> > > 6) Already mentioned is the drawing of Kuan Yin I obtained at a Chinese

New Year Festival I attended a number of times, in which the symbol of the

Kundalini/Holy Spirit/Kuan Yin at Sahasrara is shown. I find this is especially

awesome when just-realized seekers/volunteers at the festival understand the

significance of that feminine figure.

> > >

> > > In a setting such as a Chinese New Year's Festival there are many

intriguing ways in which to initiate a 'Sahaj'conversation - such as what has

just been mentioned re Kuan Yin..or, the lion dance can relate to Shri Durga's

vehicle, as can the dragon/serpent to Kundalini, Buddha, Maitreya,

visiting/wanting to visit China, India ...

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Gerlinde

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Violet " <violetubb@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > , " magdca "

<gerlindesattler@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > , " Violet " <violetubb@>

wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Gerlinde (and All),

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i hear that you are successfully giving Self-realization in your

local area while at the same time giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga

upfront. Would you please share with us how you are doing it, as i am sure this

would encourage others to do likewise. It would be helpful to know what kind of

an approach you are using. i am sure there are many Sahaja Yogis who would be

more than willing, if they could see their way forward, to present the full

message of Sahaja Yoga upfront and in person in their own local area.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Warm Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > violet

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Violet and All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I'd like to share a brief background here of my own journey to

'presenting the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront'.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even before my 'unexpected, accidental' discovery of the adishakti.org

site, I had always felt the strong desire to spread Sahaja Yoga. My

participation in giving Self-Realization within the collective format gave me

some basic grounding, but I soon wanted to spread this to more people within

expanded venues. I began, so to speak, to test the public waters for myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, in order to see how giving Self-Realization by myself would work,

I tried it on my own at first on a one-on-one basis. For me the difficult aspect

was to find a way to initiate a conversation and to move it towards actually

giving Self-Realization. I soon found many things could begin a connection: a

candle, symbol such as a spiral, a picture book about travel... Often my

attention would also be drawn to someone and I soon understood that that

happened for a reason.

> > > > >

> > > > > Once my confidence became more established I wanted to connect with

groups of people - common interest groups - health, crafts, service groups,

Senior Citizens in Retirement Homes, schools teaching World Religions, Native

groups and so on...

> > > > >

> > > > > Although initially my main emphasis was to give Self-Realization, I

also wanted people to understand Sahaja Yoga in greater depth. Internally I soon

began chafing at the implied, restrictive expectations I felt within the

collective and with the discovery of adishakti.org I realized my uneasiness was

well-founded.

> > > > >

> > > > > The next big challenge was to present Shri Mataji's Identitiy and full

message and see what reactions resulted from this disclosure coming from a

solitary local individual.

> > > > >

> > > > > One of the first venues for this 'experiment' was at a University

Student Women's Club. One response to the full disclosure was from a young

student who said with emotion that she knew, as soon as Shri Mataji started

speaking on the Self-Realization tape that I played that day, that She was

someone extraordinary!

> > > > >

> > > > > Another young World Religions high school student came up to me shyly

after class and with her teacher standing next to me, said, " That was AWESOME! "

> > > > >

> > > > > And after discovering the connection of the White Buffalo Calf Woman

and Shri Mataji and getting her Self-Realization, the young Native Woman I met

at my second Pow Wow burst into tears and hugged me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just recently I had the occasion to present Sahaja Yoga for the fourth

year at a University's Wellness Fair. This was the third year for full

disclosure there - six hours sped by, busy with many interactions, discussion,

meditation basics, and Self-Realization for people of different faiths. A few

weren't interested and merely shrugged and declined.

> > > > >

> > > > > My table is replete with a picture of Shri Mataji (to which the

attention is drawn), pamphlets with four Shri Mataji quotes and the

adishakti.org URLs, together with sample material from Taoism, Buddhism, The

Advent and/or Meta Modern Era, Search for the Divine Mother, a large picture of

Kuan Yin with a feminine form shown at Sahasrara - something I point out when

time permits to people who've just felt the vibrations at Sahasrara.

> > > > >

> > > > > Available too is a chart I've put together of some religions together

with interconnecting headings such as the Divine Feminine/Mother, Union with the

Divine, Kingdom of God, The Age, Tree of Life, Proof of one's awakening as in

'wind, breath'... This can all be seen very easily at one glance for those who

like to see an overview of Sahaja Yoga/Divine Feminine and the religions'

interconnections. I've used this also in World Religions classes, since it also

has brief quotes/explanations at the bottom section.

> > > > >

> > > > > In conclusion, I've used these past several years to present Shri

Mataji's message and Identity in full wherever I can and have overall found a

decidedly positive reaction. Anyone who is disinterested is free to decline. In

a class, for example, I always say that participation is entirely voluntary,

since everyone's freedom is respected.

> > > > >

> > > > > After speaking of the general overall success of presenting a full

disclosure, I would like to share with you my observation of an overriding

challenge regarding what may also be required to direct the public's attention

towards Shri Mataji.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is that, after the full disclosure has been presented and

Self-Realization has been given and a brief discussion follows, except for

connecting again with the inner circle, so to speak, of the adishakti.org

internet sites, these newly Realized souls never hear or see another word about

WHO Shri Mataji is, WHAT HER complete message IS from an outside independent

venue of newspaper, magazine, radio, TV, talk show, film etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > As a direct result of this lack of confirmation or even discussion of

the importance and relevance of what has just been experienced, I'm wondering

how many people just forget about this experience and become reinvolved in the

mundane world.

> > > > >

> > > > > In general, there's little in the illusory outside world which draws

the attention again to Shri Mataji, the Holy Spirit, and the Resurrection Time,

Salvation via the media of film, newspaper, magazine, radio, talk shows, or

interviews as a necessary independent announcement/backup/discussion of the

Truth that has just been presented.

> > > > >

> > > > > With each yogi(ni) beginning and continuing to present Shri Mataji's

full message individually as well as collectively, however, it will certainly be

ever more likely that this vital knowledge and experience may indeed come to the

attention of the vast public, not only through the hugely accessible and vitally

important internet's adishakti.org sites but also through other powerful media

that the public accesses daily such as radio, TV.

> > > > >

> > > > > In closing, I'd like to say that it's been an outstanding, reaffirming

experience for me to have met so many seekers who have been told the full Truth

- a wonderful experience for all of us to continue to look forward to.

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > Gerlinde

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Gerlinde and All,

> > > >

> > > > I am absolutely thrilled with everything you describe and the response

you have received is fantastic! i love the natural way in which you are

presenting the full message of Sahaja Yoga, with the use of various items of

interest displayed on your table which become 'talking points' leading to

Self-realization if the person in their freedom wishes to have it. i like the

fact that there is no 'pat formula' but that you are just giving it from your

Self.

> > > >

> > > > The pamphlets of Shri Mataji's words, and of the different religions,

and the chart you have made up are, i believe, just what's needed for others to

see a way forward to giving the full message of Sahaja Yoga upfront. Would you

be willing for these to be put on the forum somewhere where others could have

access to them and print them off for their use, also?

> > > >

> > > > Could you please describe how you go through the giving of the

Self-realization, that is, how do you do it for a Group as compared to giving

Self-realization to the individual person lined up at a Trade Fair, for example.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you so much for all your innovations that you have shared with us!

i hope it results in many more having the confidence to give the full message of

Sahaja Yoga upfront in their local community.

> > > >

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > >

> > > > violet

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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