Why Shri Mataji's Message is coming from Montreal, Canada

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Dear All,

 

The appended URL explains why Shri Mataji's Message is coming from out of

Montreal, Canada, which Shri Mataji confirmed to Sahaja Yogis it would do. As

Jagbir says, the internet is the only way to reach 1000's and 1000's of people.

The Message is there, upfront, in a way that SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion) Sahaja Yogis are not able to give it, because WCASY had forbidden it.

Now, since Shri Mataji has given Sahaja Yogis permission to form their own

organisations, how many will actually do that, or are they rather sticking to

the failed spiritual leadership. WCASY and leaders (with a few exceptions) do

not understand real spiritual leadership of the kind that leads by example,

rather than making examples of people, of Sahaja Yogis, who follow their Spirit,

which is the Real Leader.

 

The leaders dramatically got their big wake-up call when at Guru Puja 2008 Shri

Mataji gave Sahaja Yogis the permission to form their own organisations. The

news was incredulous to these leaders, who dared not, could not, believe their

ears. We did warn them but they wouldn't listen to us. They were more interested

in secretly slamming Jagbir and the children who gave evidence to confirm the

incarnation of Shri Mataji--which message is given at http://www.adishakti.org/

Instead of following their Spirit, they made whispering campaigns against Jagbir

and the children (of which this is just one example):

 

 

" This is a forwarded message

Viktor Bondar

" Yura " < inspired

Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200

Fw: Hi Viktor

 

John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the activities of the

owner of www.adishakti.org, who used to be in SY but clearly isn't a Sahaja Yogi

now, and is openly critical of all Sahaja leadership, including, at times Shri

Mataji Herself.

 

He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a photo of Mother

when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of this site, one Jagbir Singh

of Canada is on a crusade to spread his own eccentric, supraconscious view of

what Sahaja Yoga is, and where possible we should advise people not to go there

- although of course, individuals are free to do what they like.

 

John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/ links to

www.adishakti.org

 

Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk, whether he is

Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to you, is it possible that you

might prevail upon him to remove the link as it contains much erroneous and

inaccurate information. Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga

website.

 

Much love and best wishes

 

Alan

Jai Shri Mataji " (end)

 

 

Those who tried to impose their erroneous opinions on Sahaja Yogis such as Yuriy

Linnyk and others, which opinions were against the teachings of Shri Mataji if

you really understand those teachings " in full " --these leaders could not answer

Jagbir's honest, truthful questions that he repeatedly posed to them. They

remained in " dumb silence " preferring not to incriminate themselves with their

spiritual short-sighted truth that was less than the Ultimate Truth of the

Spirit. Had these shallow leaders sincerely believed in their mission to destroy

http://www.adishakti.org/ they would not have whispered about it in private

emails but have had an open campaign: " To All Sahaja Yogis " . They couldn't do it

though, because they faced a consequence - that of throwing the baby out with

the bathwater, that is, they would have destroyed their own credibility as they

tried to destroy the credibility of the " special personalities from Montreal,

Canada " that i and a roomful of Sahaja Yogis heard Shri Mataji say at Sydney

Airport in the mid-1990's " would give evidence to confirm Her Incarnation " .

 

Shri Mataji very nicely destroyed their credibility in their own eyes, when She

gave permission for Sahaja Yogis to form their own organisations. They failed

what Shri Mataji frequently called " the test of leadership " . They should have

listened to Jagbir while they had the opportunity, but it was their own

spiritual short-sightedness that prevented them from doing so.

 

regards to all,

 

violet

 

 

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" The Message is there, upfront, in a way that SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga

Subtle System Religion) Sahaja Yogis are not able to give it, because

WCASY had forbidden it. "

 

http://adishakti.org/_/doomsday_man_baptises_kenya_PM.htm

 

Thanks Violet for all the unconditional support that has allowed me

the freedom, opportunity and Silence to open my conscience, expand my

consciousness and soar to ever greater heights. In gratitude i can

only offer you Silence.

 

warmest regards,

 

jagbir

 

 

, " Violet " <violetubb wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> The appended URL explains why Shri Mataji's Message is coming from out of

Montreal, Canada, which Shri Mataji confirmed to Sahaja Yogis it would do. As

Jagbir says, the internet is the only way to reach 1000's and 1000's of people.

The Message is there, upfront, in a way that SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion) Sahaja Yogis are not able to give it, because WCASY had forbidden it.

Now, since Shri Mataji has given Sahaja Yogis permission to form their own

organisations, how many will actually do that, or are they rather sticking to

the failed spiritual leadership. WCASY and leaders (with a few exceptions) do

not understand real spiritual leadership of the kind that leads by example,

rather than making examples of people, of Sahaja Yogis, who follow their Spirit,

which is the Real Leader.

>

> The leaders dramatically got their big wake-up call when at Guru Puja 2008

Shri Mataji gave Sahaja Yogis the permission to form their own organisations.

The news was incredulous to these leaders, who dared not, could not, believe

their ears. We did warn them but they wouldn't listen to us. They were more

interested in secretly slamming Jagbir and the children who gave evidence to

confirm the incarnation of Shri Mataji--which message is given at

http://www.adishakti.org/ Instead of following their Spirit, they made

whispering campaigns against Jagbir and the children (of which this is just one

example):

>

>

> " This is a forwarded message

> Viktor Bondar

> " Yura " < inspired@>

> Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200

> Fw: Hi Viktor

>

> John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the activities of the

owner of www.adishakti.org, who used to be in SY but clearly isn't a Sahaja Yogi

now, and is openly critical of all Sahaja leadership, including, at times Shri

Mataji Herself.

>

> He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a photo of

Mother when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of this site, one Jagbir

Singh of Canada is on a crusade to spread his own eccentric, supraconscious view

of what Sahaja Yoga is, and where possible we should advise people not to go

there - although of course, individuals are free to do what they like.

>

> John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/ links to

www.adishakti.org

>

> Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk, whether he

is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to you, is it possible that

you might prevail upon him to remove the link as it contains much erroneous and

inaccurate information. Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga

website.

>

> Much love and best wishes

>

> Alan

> Jai Shri Mataji " (end)

>

>

> Those who tried to impose their erroneous opinions on Sahaja Yogis such as

Yuriy Linnyk and others, which opinions were against the teachings of Shri

Mataji if you really understand those teachings " in full " --these leaders could

not answer Jagbir's honest, truthful questions that he repeatedly posed to them.

They remained in " dumb silence " preferring not to incriminate themselves with

their spiritual short-sighted truth that was less than the Ultimate Truth of the

Spirit. Had these shallow leaders sincerely believed in their mission to destroy

http://www.adishakti.org/ they would not have whispered about it in private

emails but have had an open campaign: " To All Sahaja Yogis " . They couldn't do it

though, because they faced a consequence - that of throwing the baby out with

the bathwater, that is, they would have destroyed their own credibility as they

tried to destroy the credibility of the " special personalities from Montreal,

Canada " that i and a roomful of Sahaja Yogis heard Shri Mataji say at Sydney

Airport in the mid-1990's " would give evidence to confirm Her Incarnation " .

>

> Shri Mataji very nicely destroyed their credibility in their own eyes, when

She gave permission for Sahaja Yogis to form their own organisations. They

failed what Shri Mataji frequently called " the test of leadership " . They should

have listened to Jagbir while they had the opportunity, but it was their own

spiritual short-sightedness that prevented them from doing so.

>

> regards to all,

>

> violet

>

>

>

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Dear Jagbir and All,

 

It has been a pleasure to support someone who is the best Sahaja Yogi they can

possibly be, and above all, truthful. Truthfulness is the greatest requirement

for a Sahaja Yogi, which quality i found deficient in Sahaj leadership, when

they also tried to prevent me from interacting with http://www.adishakti.org/

 

When i think of how they tried to put the fear of separation from other Sahaja

Yogis into one, for following their Spirit, their conscience, to give Shri

Mataji's message upfront, but how one's spiritual muscles of Love, Truth, and

Obedience to the Spirit have been strengthened by resisting the opposing force,

i am thankful to God. i have discovered that i cannot have two masters, as there

is then no advancement for one's soul. When you have to please WCASY, you cannot

also please your Spirit. In the Bible it was required to follow God and not

Mammon. A decision had to be made, to either follow religious rulers, or to

follow God. The prophets in the Bible usually ended up having the religious

rulers rail against them, because they chose to follow God and did not budge

even one inch. You have been a great example of that, Jagbir, which is why i

believe Shri Mataji is pleased with you, even though you have not pleased WCASY.

In the end, people will meet their Maker and know whether they surrendered it

all to the Divine, or if they forfeited a little bit of their Self, for a

'fleeting' temporal advantage.

 

Prophets are 'prophets' because they have to tell the truth, regardless of the

consequences to themselves and even if that truth may temporarily inconvenience

them or be hard to bear. When Jagbir asked John Noyce if he was on this forum

'to keep an eye on Jagbir with the aim of picking on something Jagbir said in

order to discredit him' - John denied to Jagbir that he was doing that. While

John enjoyed the forum, he would not refer other Sahaja Yogis to it, nor could

he admit to Jagbir what he was doing " In The Name of Sahaja Yoga " :

 

> > " This is a forwarded message

> > Viktor Bondar

> > " Yura " < inspired@>

> > Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200

> > Fw: Hi Viktor

> >

> > John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the activities of

the owner of www.adishakti.org, who used to be in SY but clearly isn't a Sahaja

Yogi now, and is openly critical of all Sahaja leadership, including, at times

Shri Mataji Herself.

 

i imagine that when Yura received this email, compliments of the 'triple-whammy'

of John Noyce (Australia), Alan Wherry (U.S.A) and Viktor Bondar (Ukraine), it

must have sent chills of fear up his spine that were not there before. Given the

intimidation and interrogation tactics of the 'terrible threesome' they deserve

all the constructive criticism that is due to them, since they were doing so " In

The Name Of Sahaja Yoga " - but i can tell you that it was not " In The Name of

Shri Mataji " ! By their actions, they were undermining Shri Mataji, Herself, and

Her Full Message of Sahaja Yoga, as opposed to their limited, stripped-down

version, of the Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion (SYSSR). Shri Mataji told

Sahaja Yogis many times that they had to follow their own consciences, yet these

guys were meddling in Sahaja Yogis' consciences through their spiritual

disinformation, accompanied by their bullying tactics.

 

Lets examine and dispel some of their disinformation, therefore:

 

Alan states that Jagbir is not a Sahaja Yogi anymore. Who said so? Shri Mataji

didn't say so! She always remarked favorably on Jagbir! Does attending an

organisation make a person a Sahaja Yogi? No. Numerous people may continue to

attend an organisation, but do not necessarily act like a true Sahaja Yogi. A

Sahaja Yogi has to progress all the time. They don't remain stagnant. Living the

life of a Sahaja Yogi means going beyond the 'Dharma' of Sahaja Yoga to the

'Truth' of Sahaja Yoga. i don't think Alan has even come close, if he can

intimidate and interrogate fellow Sahaja Yogis for no valid reason. What gives

him the right?! Especially, when he is not even on the button, due to his

spiritual short-sightedness and ignorance!

 

Alan says to Yura that Jagbir is critical of Shri Mataji. That is disinformation

at its best! The fact is, Her Full Message of Sahaja Yoga is now coming from

Montreal, Canada - including the evidence Shri Mataji said would come from the

special personalities to confirm Her Incarnation!:

 

http://www.adishakti.org/

 

> > He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a photo of

Mother when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of this site, one Jagbir

Singh of Canada is on a crusade to spread his own eccentric, supraconscious view

of what Sahaja Yoga is, and where possible we should advise people not to go

there - although of course, individuals are free to do what they like.

> >

> > John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/ links to

www.adishakti.org

 

Going by the email that Alan sent to Yura, i think that Alan might be eccentric

('stuck in a rut') if he can only meditate when he has a photo of Shri Mataji in

front of him. Where is the ultimate photo of Shri Mataji, or Jesus, or Buddha?

It is in our hearts and minds! Alan doesn't seem to realize, despite his many

years of meditation on Shri Mataji's photo, that the ultimate image of Shri

Mataji, the subtle image of Shri Mataji, is in our Hearts and Minds, in the

Self/Spirit within!

 

Alan must also be eccentric since after all the years of footsoaking in Sahaja

Yoga, his Kundalini hasn't been able to clear him on a 24/7 basis. i can

enlighten a little on that problem: While he is still engaged in intimidating

and interrogating others (as evidenced by the email to Yura in 2006), there is

still the need to surrender that tendency to the Holy Spirit, as will all the

other failed leadership of Sahaja Yoga need to do so. There is no way out of

that. There is no other way to ascend. There is no special Gate for leaders to

ascend to the kingdom of God. They have to willingly become humble, submissive

and compliant to their Kundalini Mother, and then She will clear them 24/7, and

only then. While the ego is still in charge, that can't happen.

 

Alan said: " of course, individuals are free to do what they like " , but the very

nature of the email that was sent to Yura, shows that this was a false

assurance. The email showed that " individual are not free to do what they like " ,

but the 'terrible threesome' will come down on them like a ton of bricks, for no

valid spiritual reason! This is an example of failed leadership. True spiritual

leadership is where a person leads by example.

 

> > Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk, whether he

is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to you, is it possible that

you might prevail upon him to remove the link as it contains much erroneous and

inaccurate information. Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga

website.

> >

> > Much love and best wishes

> >

> > Alan

> > Jai Shri Mataji " (end)

 

 

Yura is a Sahaja Yogi, yet Alan questioned his spiritual status as a Sahaja

Yogi, just because Yura listed adishakti.org before sahaja yoga.org. That

obviously is enough to 'unSahaj' a person, according to the 'Sahaj inquisition'

of the 'threesome'. Lets cut through the chase here: It has been highly unSahaj

for people like Alan and other failed leadership of Sahaja Yoga, to dismiss what

Shri Mataji, Herself, spoke about " as the Evidence that Would Confirm Her

Incarnation " !:

 

http://www.adishakti.org/

 

with love and for truth,

 

violet

 

 

 

, " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org

wrote:

>

> " The Message is there, upfront, in a way that SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga

> Subtle System Religion) Sahaja Yogis are not able to give it, because

> WCASY had forbidden it. "

>

> http://adishakti.org/_/doomsday_man_baptises_kenya_PM.htm

>

> Thanks Violet for all the unconditional support that has allowed me

> the freedom, opportunity and Silence to open my conscience, expand my

> consciousness and soar to ever greater heights. In gratitude i can

> only offer you Silence.

>

> warmest regards,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> , " Violet " <violetubb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > The appended URL explains why Shri Mataji's Message is coming from out of

Montreal, Canada, which Shri Mataji confirmed to Sahaja Yogis it would do. As

Jagbir says, the internet is the only way to reach 1000's and 1000's of people.

The Message is there, upfront, in a way that SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System

Religion) Sahaja Yogis are not able to give it, because WCASY had forbidden it.

Now, since Shri Mataji has given Sahaja Yogis permission to form their own

organisations, how many will actually do that, or are they rather sticking to

the failed spiritual leadership. WCASY and leaders (with a few exceptions) do

not understand real spiritual leadership of the kind that leads by example,

rather than making examples of people, of Sahaja Yogis, who follow their Spirit,

which is the Real Leader.

> >

> > The leaders dramatically got their big wake-up call when at Guru Puja 2008

Shri Mataji gave Sahaja Yogis the permission to form their own organisations.

The news was incredulous to these leaders, who dared not, could not, believe

their ears. We did warn them but they wouldn't listen to us. They were more

interested in secretly slamming Jagbir and the children who gave evidence to

confirm the incarnation of Shri Mataji--which message is given at

http://www.adishakti.org/ Instead of following their Spirit, they made

whispering campaigns against Jagbir and the children (of which this is just one

example):

> >

> >

> > " This is a forwarded message

> > Viktor Bondar

> > " Yura " < inspired@>

> > Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200

> > Fw: Hi Viktor

> >

> > John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the activities of

the owner of www.adishakti.org, who used to be in SY but clearly isn't a Sahaja

Yogi now, and is openly critical of all Sahaja leadership, including, at times

Shri Mataji Herself.

> >

> > He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a photo of

Mother when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of this site, one Jagbir

Singh of Canada is on a crusade to spread his own eccentric, supraconscious view

of what Sahaja Yoga is, and where possible we should advise people not to go

there - although of course, individuals are free to do what they like.

> >

> > John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/ links to

www.adishakti.org

> >

> > Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk, whether he

is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to you, is it possible that

you might prevail upon him to remove the link as it contains much erroneous and

inaccurate information. Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga

website.

> >

> > Much love and best wishes

> >

> > Alan

> > Jai Shri Mataji " (end)

> >

> >

> > Those who tried to impose their erroneous opinions on Sahaja Yogis such as

Yuriy Linnyk and others, which opinions were against the teachings of Shri

Mataji if you really understand those teachings " in full " --these leaders could

not answer Jagbir's honest, truthful questions that he repeatedly posed to them.

They remained in " dumb silence " preferring not to incriminate themselves with

their spiritual short-sighted truth that was less than the Ultimate Truth of the

Spirit. Had these shallow leaders sincerely believed in their mission to destroy

http://www.adishakti.org/ they would not have whispered about it in private

emails but have had an open campaign: " To All Sahaja Yogis " . They couldn't do it

though, because they faced a consequence - that of throwing the baby out with

the bathwater, that is, they would have destroyed their own credibility as they

tried to destroy the credibility of the " special personalities from Montreal,

Canada " that i and a roomful of Sahaja Yogis heard Shri Mataji say at Sydney

Airport in the mid-1990's " would give evidence to confirm Her Incarnation " .

> >

> > Shri Mataji very nicely destroyed their credibility in their own eyes, when

She gave permission for Sahaja Yogis to form their own organisations. They

failed what Shri Mataji frequently called " the test of leadership " . They should

have listened to Jagbir while they had the opportunity, but it was their own

spiritual short-sightedness that prevented them from doing so.

> >

> > regards to all,

> >

> > violet

> >

> >

> >

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