Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 > > The Aykaa Mayee requires nothing for Herself, and the greatest > offering one can make to one's Guru is to abide in the Knowledge > given by the Teacher. In this way one can fulfill the purpose of > human existence, which is a rare form of life attained after > experiencing millions of life forms. > > manamukh firehin chaethehi moorrae lakh chouraaseeh faer paeiaa > The self-willed manmukhs wander around, and they do not remember the > Lord; the fools are consigned to the cycle of 8.4 million > incarnations. > Page 434 Guru Nanak Dev > > lakh chouraaseeh maedhanee ghattai n vadhhai outhaahi > They will pass through 8.4 millions species; this number does not > decrease or rise. > Page 936 Guru Nanak Dev > > chouraaseeh narak saakath bhogaaeeai > The faithless cynic has to endure 8.4 million hellish incarnations. > Page 1028 Guru Nanak Dev > > bhram bhram ddolai lakh chouraaseeh > People wander lost, staggering and stumbling through 8.4 million > incarnations. > Page 1344 Guru Nanak Dev > > regards to all, > > > jagbir > " The Death of God? By the beginning of the nineteenth century, atheism was definitely on the agenda. The advances in science and technology were creating a new theory of autonomy and independence which led some to declare their independence of God. This was the century in which Ludwig Feuerbach, Karl Marx, Charles Darwin, Friedrich Nietzsche and Sigmund Freud forged philosophies and scientific interpretations of reality which had no place for God. Indeed, by the end of the century, a significant number of people were beginning to feel that if God was not yet dead, it was the duty of rational, emancipated human beings to kill him. The idea of God which had been fostered for centuries in the Christian West now appeared disastrously inadequate, and the Age of Reason seem to have triumphed over centuries of superstition and bigotry... Many of the ideologies which rejected the idea of God made good sense. The anthropomorphic personal God of Western Christendom was vulnerable. Appalling crimes had been committed in his name. Yet his demise was not experienced as a joyous celebration but attended by doubt, dread and, in some cases, agonizing conflict. Some people tried to save God by evolving new theology to free him from the inhibiting systems of empirical thought, but atheism had come to stay. " Karen Armstrong, A History of God (Karen Armstrong, A History of God, Ballantine Books, 1993, p. 346.) " Darwin has said little in The Origin about the human race; his The Descent of Man came out twelve years later. That was after evolution had gained considerable acceptance and eight years after books by Thomas Huxley (1825-95) and Charles Lyell (1797-1875) had explored what it meant for a view of humankind. In The Descent, Darwin stressed the continuities between animal and human development, with attention to the detailed similarity of their bodily organs. The human brain is not exempt from such continuity; for Darwin, all its intellectual activity, including language and social morality, is the adaptively advantageous product of natural selection. Thanks to Darwin's theories, we are more cognizant of our kinship with the animals, not only in medical and biological research but in our concern for a viable ecological future. In this century, modern Christian theologians assessing the place of human life in the universe have tended to shift the locus of human distinctiveness from special physical creation to a unique intellectual and spiritual capacity for transcendence. It is not so much human descent in the past but human ascent in the future that has become the agenda for religious thinkers persuaded by Darwin's discoveries. " Willard G. Oxtoby, World Religions; The Christian Tradition (Willard G. Oxtoby, World Religions: The Christian Tradition, Oxford University Press Canada, 1996, p. 322.) " Really big numbers are part and parcel of modern science; but I don't want to leave the impression that they were invented in our time. Indian arithmetic has long been equal to large numbers. You can easily find references in Indian newspapers today to fines or expenditures of lakh or crore rupees. The key is: das = 10; san = 100; hazar = 1,000; lakh = 105; crore = 107; arabh = 109; carabh = 1011; nie = 1013; padham = 1015; and sankh = 1017. Before their culture was annihilated by the Europeans, the Maya of ancient Mexico devised a world timescale that dwarfed the paltry few thousand years that the Europeans thought had passed since the creation of the world. Among the decaying monuments of Coba, in Quintana Roo, are inscriptions showing that the Maya were contemplating a Universe around 1029 years old. The Hindus held that the present incarnation of the Universe is 8.6 X 109 years old — almost right on the button. " Carl Sagan, Billions & Billions (Carl Sagan, Billions & Billions, Ballantine Books, 1997, p. 11-2.) " A hundred years ago, the subject of the origin and evolution of living systems became the battleground of history's greatest collision between science and religion. Darwin's theory of evolution shook the foundations of Christian doctrine and, more than any other pronouncement since Copernicus placed the sun at the centre of the solar system, brought home to ordinary people the far-reaching consequences of scientific analysis. Science, it appeared, could change man's entire perspective and his relation to the universe... The Bible states quite explicitly that life is the direct result of God's activity; it did not arise naturally as a result of ordinary physical processes established after the creation of heaven and Earth. Instead God chose to produce, by divine power, first the plants and animals, then Adam and Eve. Of course, the vast majority of Christians and Jews now concede the allegorical nature of Genesis, and make no attempt to defend the biblical version of the origin of life as a historical fact... Did God literally manipulate molecules of no-living matter in violation of the laws of physics and chemistry to produce, miraculously, the first living thing? Did he further manipulate the genetic structure of some ape-like creature thousands (or millions) of years ago to produce man? Or is life the result of pure natural, if complex, physical and chemical activity, and man the end product of a long and convoluted evolutionary development? " Professor Paul Davies, God and the New Physics (Professor Paul Davies, God and the New Physics, Simon and Schuster, 1983, p. 58-9.) The Primordial Human Evolution No. Incarnation: Physical - Conscious evolution: 1. Matsya-avtar or Fish: Water borne life — amoebae or primeval evolution. 2. Kurmavtar or Turtle: Water/Land borne life — amphibians. 3. Varahavtar or Boar: Land borne life — mammals. 4. Narshinghavtar or Human-lion: Semi-human — primates. 5. Vamanavtar or Dwarf: Homo erectus — primitive human. 6. Parshuram or Divine Seeker: Homo sapiens — conscious human. 7. Ram or Perfect Human: Homo sapiens — God conscious human; outer awareness. 8. Krishna or Supreme Yogi: Homo sapiens — Self-conscious human; inner awareness. 9. Buddha or Consciousness: Homo sapiens — Self-Realization; inner enlightenment 10. Kalki (Christ) or Spirit Being: Homo spiritus — God-Realization; Resurrection (en masse spiritual evolution.) What is seen is the development of species right from the first signs of carbon life in the oceans billions of years ago to the present still evolving Homo sapiens. All these 10 incarnations of Shri Vishnu fit into the scientific chronology of the creation and evolution of the universe, but yet ahead of all modern meticulous minds as they also reveal the evolution of humans into spiritual beings and Afterlife in Spirit Worlds many light-years away from Earth. All humans — repeat: all humans — have taken countless rebirths spanning billions of years and reached this priceless human form, the highest evolved life in the eyes of the Universal Soul. The final metamorphosis or evolution is that into spiritual beings. The human species is now in the last stage of physical evolution — the Resurrection — to become the Spirit, the final goal of life that all Holy Scriptures expound and the only reason we are here. Shri Adi Shakti: The Kingdom Of God, 1999, pages 2327-29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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