Guest guest Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 Dear Jagbir, Anil and all, Despite the (figurative) wish to build a 1000 story building, it hasn't happened as yet. For that to happen, the Full Message of Shri Mataji will be required to be explained in great detail by SYs in order for people to accept it. Shri Mataji has been preparing for the SECOND PHASE of Sahaja Yoga for a long time now--at least for as long as when She said at the Cowley Seminar (1982) that: " As I'm facing you today - you have to face the others; you have to face the people. Dedication doesn't mean that you 'don't talk' of Sahaja Yoga. Many people think that keeping silent is the way you are dedicating. Only in meditation you should be [silent]. But you still have to get out of that [and]... Tell all the nations and tell all the people all over, the great message that the time of Resurrection is here. " Now, at This Time " . And you are all capable of doing it. If somebody tries to sneer at you for that, try to say things with understanding, [with] wisdom... Now, the name of your Mother is very powerful. You know that is the most powerful name, more [so] than all other names - the most powerful mantra. But you must know how to take it. With that complete dedication, you have to take that name! Not like any other name... So be prepared for the second phase. You are in the front. It is very little time I need. But I really need people with steadfast wisdom and dedication. Steadfast. Even for a second, it should not go [from] this side [to] that side. Then we can progress fast; we can go ahead to fight the battle! Perhaps you are aware now, of the subtleties of the negativities, how they use their power to destroy God's work - of course, they are limited - and how you have to be alert, equipped, and dedicated. This, I can only talk to you (about]; I cannot say it to the people who come to Caxton Hall. Some of them are 'half-baked', some of them are absolutely new and naive, and some of them are absolutely 'third rate'. But here, as you are before me today, I want to tell you very frankly, as Krishna has told only to Arjuna: " Sarva dharmanam parityajya, mamekam sharanam Vraja " There is no other way out. 'Vraja' means the one who is 'twice-born', like a solid, solid personality. When you are 'solid', then you must dedicate. When you are 'perfected', then you must dedicate.... All these things are to be understood after realisation, and after maturity. Before that it is not possible. That is why for the last eight years, I did not say these things to you. I was on very patronising [i.e., Shri Mataji is saying that She was being like a patron] and sweet terms with you. And always, I made you feel that you are obliging me. It is no obligation. Beyond all these conceptions you have become your Self, now ready, to be responsible, to be what you are made for. Like the ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be sea-worthy to sail out now, into the sea. So this is the second phase, where you have to sail out, when you know everything about the ship, everything about the sea. With complete freedom and wisdom, you have to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons because now you all know. Your job is to cross through. May God bless you. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Cowley Manor Seminar, 31-7-82 Shri Mataji's Guru Puja 2008 Speech took care of two Sahaj impediments--the massive organisation of SY by a few people--and their SYSSR. She took care of the first impediment by giving permission to capable SYs to form their own organisations. And Shri Mataji took care of the second impediment by saying that 'by now most SYs should be having their Kundalini energy flowing freely', which went against what the SYSSR was teaching, which was the opposite. That is how Shri Mataji has broken the power that the SYSSR has had over SYs. Shri Mataji had a Divine Master Plan that WCASY and their SYSSR did not really comprehend, adhere to, or understand. It was the SECOND PHASE of Sahaja Yoga! regards to all, violet , " adishakti_org " <adishakti_org wrote: > > Dear Anil, > > Recently i tendered a 100000-storied building to honest, upfront > contractors who can read and unconditionally obey the _Instructions_ > of my Boss. i assure you that i will finish my job way ahead of that > 1000-storied SY building whose foundation was laid way back in the > 1970s. It has come to my attention that most of the 80,000 SYs > working on it have given up after 3 floors, and the project is now on > the verge of abandonment. > > But don't worry. After completing the 100,000 building i will send > some of my honest contractors over to your side. And we will do it > for free and finish the job in record time. > > regards, > > jagbir > > > , Anil Kumar Kanhaua <hello_betu@> wrote: > > > > Dear Jagbir / Violet > > > > Suppose, you have to deal with to construct a high rise building, say of 1000 stories. And, you are alone. You will do it, I am sure, but the time you will take to construct it is an issue. > > > > Similarly, without an organization / collectivity......how a 1000 storied building you or one may construct, is a question? > > > > This leads us to be collective despite having differences amongst us, and attending CENTER plays a subtle role here. That gives us an idea to go further to spread the divine message and thus to prove us as instruments. > > > > And, that is the importance of attending weekly centers. > > > > a n i l k u m a r k a n h a u a | tel + 91 94258 06872 | > > hello_betu@ > > __ > > > > for the most amazing discovery within us > > please visit www.sahajayoga.org > > > > > > --- On Mon, 14/9/09, Bertrand Tietcheu <btietcheu@> wrote: > > > > Bertrand Tietcheu <btietcheu@> > > Re: Re: Question about SY center attendance? > > > > Monday, 14 September, 2009, 5:16 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ajay and All, > > It is very simple if you feel that yout still have to visit SY centers then you go, and the day you will realise that you have your own wings well fixed, and that you can now fly on your own then do it. > > But what i can understand through the explanation of Jagbir is that going to the centers is just one aspect of the whole dramma. We cannot stick on it eternally. We have to be able to establish our centers within, our kingdom within. When we achieve it then we are completely free, because we are now our own master.. And Shri Mataji has set us free since 2008 Guru Puja. You are free do whatever you feel in your heart to do, and donnot feel guilty. > > Shri Mataji had certainly advice Sahaja Yogis to visit Centers at least once a week, she also certainly didn't put it as a " must " , as a rigid rule that we may be punished because we have not respected. With the divine there is nothing like a rigid rule. Everything is just leela, divine play. Now what we have to do all the time is to ascertain that our kingdom within is established and that we are are sitted comfortably in it. > > Regards > > > > Bertrand > > > > > > > > ------------ - > > > > " ...very small and humble, and yet encompassing the world with divinity, was the quiet figure of the great mother. " > > > > Ben Okri, Astonishing the Gods > > > > Nigerian Writer > > > > > > --- En date de : Lun 14.9.09, Ajay Agarwal <ajay_msh > a écrit : > > > > > > De: Ajay Agarwal <ajay_msh > > > Objet: Re: [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] Re: Question about SY center attendance? > > À: adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com > > Lundi 14 Septembre 2009, 6h42 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jagbir / Sam > > > > I would not like to comment on 5% or anything else...since i dont know that. > > > > But Shri Mataji in one of her speech had emphasiszed on attending the SY center once a week. She had requested Sahaj yogis to make sure to attend the any centre (which is near to them or they are comfortable with) atleast once a week...... > > > > > > thanks > > > > ajay > > > > --- On Sat, 9/12/09, adishakti_org <adishakti_org@ > wrote: > > > > > > adishakti_org <adishakti_org@ > > > [adishakti_sahaja_ yoga] Re: Question about SY center attendance? > > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com > > Saturday, September 12, 2009, 5:17 PM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Question about SY center attendance? > > > > > adishakti_sahaja_ yoga@ .com, " sam.honner " <dont.be.afraid@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > Jai Shri Mataji! > > > > > > I've just experienced the Sahaja Yoga self-realization, and I have > > a question about attendance at local Sahaja Yoga centers > > > > > > Is it necessary to attend a local center, or are Sahaja Yogis able > > to practice by themselves? I personally feel called to stay on my > > own, practicing Sahaja Yoga, because of practicality and that the > > closest center is quite out of the way for me. > > > > > > > > > But also, I raise this question because it also occurs to me that > > some people have a phobia of either going outside their house > > (Agoraphobic) or have social phobias. Also, there would be some > > people > > who experience Sahaja Yoga over the internet--like myself-- > > who gain self-realization, and do not live near a center. > > > > > > So does Shri Mataji teach anything about this, or is there a > > general rule amongst Sahaja Yogis? > > > > > > Thanks very much for any help you can give, and JSM! =] > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sam, > > > > " If you have to take a single step in any direction to seek the > > Divine you are going the wrong way " . So why should you walk to any SY > > center, a Church, Temple, Mosque or Gurdwara? Why seek the advise of > > ignorant humans without when the Inner Guru within will guide, heal, > > transform and evolve you into a better being in Silence? > > > > In the end you will realize that only Silence on Self enlightens .... > > you may take this advise now in this life or finally surrender to it > > after countless rebirths. The choice is yours. > > > > And Shri Mataji never told anyone that they must join a SY center to > > > > meditate etc. That rule have been invented by SYs who continue to > > corrupt Her teachings. If you can learn any more than 5% from SY > > centers i will most willingly bake my turban and eat it with chicken > > curry. And don't forget that that 5% is mainly about the subtle > > system, obsessive cleansing rituals, fear of 'catching' ('dirtying > > the chakras'), phobias ....... i can go on and on with the corruption > > of Her teachings. You will flee from this 5%, as 99.99% have over the > > decades. You are far, far better off on your own. Definitely! > > > > regards, > > > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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