Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 > > Lord Jesus literally meant that one should remove an adulterous eye > or sinning hand and be saved: > > " If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it > away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for > your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand > causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for > you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go > into hell. " [3] > > So WCASY, leaders, Sir CP and SYs, what should be done to your > tongues that continue to lie and deceive humanity about the advent > of the Paraclete and Her message of the Last Judgment? > > Better you leave the organization than acquire a lying tongue and > deceiving mind, > > jagbir > " But why are there so many thieves, as shown in His life? Only as a contrast were they allowed to get out. Why was this compromise not possible with Christ? Do we also have the same with us today, that we compromise ourselves with thieves, who are negative people and we do not mind Christ being crucified? " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Easter Puja, Formal Talk, Ashram, London England 6 April, 1980 Mark 9:43-48 = Matt 18:8-9 43 And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. 44 45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell. 46 47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out; it is better for you to enter the Kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell, 48 where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched. Mark 9:43-48 8 And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better for you to enter life maimed or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire. Matt 18:8-9 Jesus teaches that a person must remove all impediments in order to to enter the Kingdom of God (eiselthein eis tên basileian tou theou) (Mark 9:47), which is synonymous with to enter into life (eiselthein eis tên zoên) (Mark 9:43, 45), since it is better to do without any so-called advantage than to miss entering the Kingdom of God or into life. (The term " Kingdom of God " is synonymous with " life. " ) This is expressed hyperbolically as being willing to cut off one's hands and one's feet and being willing to remove one's eye, if necessary. One's bodily parts represent what is closest and most valuable to a person, which must be given up if it impedes entrance into the Kingdom of God or life. The consequence of not being willing to sacrifice anything to enter the Kingdom of God or life is punishment in Gehenna (or eternal fire). The entrance of which Jesus speaks is a future entrance, coincidental with final judgment; in fact, one must pass through final judgment in order to enter the Kingdom of God as future or life. (Matthew omits Mark 9:45, probably because he considered his Markan source to be redundant; in addition, Matthew's substitution of " life " for Mark's " Kingdom of God " in the saying about being willing to remove one's eye.) http://www.abu.nb.ca/Courses/NTIntro/KingdGod2.htm > > " This mission of the Paraclete, like that of Jesus Himself, is two- > sided; for to the world which has rejected Christ it brings > judgement... This cannot take place until Jesus has been exalted > (17:7). " Dictionary of the Bible... > > But we will overcome those against us, even if it is the entire SY > organization itself. The Last Judgment CANNOT take place until Jesus > has been exalted. The Paraclete has done just that for more than > three decades. We must sustain Her work without any fear and make > sure the rest of humanity realizes it is the promised Blossom Time. > There is no question that the Paraclete and Lord Jesus will triumph. > " Paraclete, Comforter (L. Consolator; Greek parakletos), an appellation of the Holy Ghost. The Greek word which, as a designation of the Holy Ghost at least, occurs only in St. John (14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7), has been variously translated " advocate " , " intercessor " , " teacher, " helper " , " comforter " . This last rendering, though at variance with the passive form of the Greek, is justified by the Hellenistic usage, a number of ancient versions, patristic and liturgical authority, and the evident needs of the Johannine context. According to St. John the mission of the Paraclete is to abide with the disciples after Jesus has withdrawn His visible presence from them; to inwardly bring home to them the teaching externally given by Christ and thus to stand as a witness to the doctrine and work of the Saviour. There is no reason for limiting to the Apostles themselves the comforting influence of the Paraclete as promised in the Gospel (Matthew 10:19; Mark 13:11; Luke 12:11, 21:14) and described in Acts 2... Says St. Bernard (Parvi Sermones): " De Spiritu Sancto testatur Scriptura quia procedit, spirat, inhabitat, replet, glorificat. Procedendo praedestinat; spirando vocat quos praedestinavit; inhabitando justificat quos vocavit; replendo accumulat meritis quos justificavit; glorificando ditat proemiis quos accumulavit meritis " . Every salutary condition, power, and action, in fact the whole range of our salvation, comes within the Comforter's mission. Its extraordinary effects are styled gifts, fruits, beatitudes. Its ordinary working is sanctification with all it entails, habitual grace, infused virtues, adoption, and the right to the celestial inheritance. " The charity of God " , says St. Paul (Romans 5:5), " is poured forth in our hearts by the Holy Ghost who is give to us. " In that passage the Paraclete is both the giver and the gift: the giver of grace (donum creatum) and the gift of the Father and the Son (donum increatum). St. Paul teaches repeatedly that the Holy Ghost dwells in us (Romans 8:9, 11; 1 Corinthians 3:16). " [1] " Paraclete comes from the Koine Greek word (Parakletos) meaning " one who consoles - a comforter " or " one who intercedes on our behalf - an advocate " . It may reflect Hebrew: mnahhem " comforter " .... 'Paraclete' appears in the New Testament in the Gospel of John (14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, 20:22) where it may be translated in English as " Counselor " , " Helper " , or " Comforter " . The Early Church identified the Paraclete as the Holy Spirit (Acts 1:5,1:8,2:4,2:38) and Christians continue to use Paraclete as a title for God's Spirit. In 1 John 2:1 " paraclete " is used to describe the intercessory role of Jesus Christ. And in John 14:16 Jesus says " another paraclete " will come to help his disciples, implying Jesus is the first paraclete. In Matt 3:10-12 and Luke 3:9-17 John the Baptist says a powerful one coming after him: " will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire. " (NIV) Verses like these are often used by Christians in Trinitarian theology to describe how God is revealed to the world and God's role in salvation. According to trinitarian doctrine, the Paraclete or Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity who among other things provides guidance, consolation and support to people. Other titles for the Holy Spirit include 'Spirit of Truth', Lightfull Spirit of God Almighty, Holy Breath, Almighty Breath, Giver of Life, Lord of Grace, Helper, 'Comforter', 'Counsellor' and 'Supporter'. " [2] As i said, there is no question that the Paraclete and Lord Jesus will triumph. But at this very early stage we should not even look around to see that manifesting because it is only since 1-1-2000 that this Good News of the Gospel was first publicly and openly announced i.e., with all the evidence and Sure Signs of the promised Last Judgment proclaimed by the Paraclete: " Though you can understand that Mother's Love makes it very easy for you to get to your Realization and that the whole story of Last Judgment —which looks such a horrifying experience— has been made very beautiful, and very tender, and delicate, and does not disturb you. " (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi) The advent and message of the Paraclete is a complex, eschatological manifestation that requires vast amounts of knowledge and evidence. This process will take a few more years to complete and i ask for courage, patience and forbearance. Above all i ask for complete and absolute dedication to the Paraclete who also resides in you! The advent and message of the Paraclete must be openly and publicly given in full. But under no circumstance whatsoever must you allow anyone - WCASY, leaders, Sir CP, SYs- to persuade you otherwise. Lord Jesus literally meant that one should remove an adulterous eye or sinning hand and be saved: " If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell. " [3] So WCASY, leaders, Sir CP and SYs, what should be done to your tongues that continue to lie and deceive humanity about the advent of the Paraclete and Her message of the Last Judgment? better you leave the organization than acquire a lying tongue and deceiving mind, jagbir [1] The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XI. Published 1911. New York: Robert Appleton Company. Nihil Obstat, February 1, 1911. [2] " Paraclete. " Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. 26 Dec 2007 [3} Mathew 5:29-30 --------------- 80,000 SYs are 'crucifying' Jesus Christ again by preventing His gospel of the Kingdom of God from completion , Bertrand Tietcheu <btietcheu wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, Violet and All, > I am now realising how stupid was I to follow these organisations going out there called Sahaja Yoga, frankly now i can realise it, when i look back the last four year I have been practising SYSSR. The damage is serious, but anyway I have to move now the other way, by following the holy ghost within me, just that and announce the Divine Message of Resurrection and Collective emancipation of the Humankind. Its takes time to get rid of all the conditionnings and fears developed by this SYSSR. > Now I have started with my inner jihad. > Thanks for your wisdom > > Bertrand > Dear Bertrand and all, i am 100% convinced that the SYSSR is very destructive for your spiritual ascent and salvation as it corrupts and induces you to believe that keeping the subtle system clean (with the aid of rituals requiring lemons, chillies, footsoaks, candles, mantras etc.) and propagating that SYSSR message to others is what Sahaja Yoga is about. There is an evil force within the SY organization that has managed to suppress and corrupt the very reason God Almighty sent the Comforter. It is without question the greatest of crimes against humanity. If you have been following the recent posts then you will realize who is causing them to deviate. So do not support the SY organization in any way as it is the very reason the Message of the Comforter has been so effectively suppressed. Bertrand, if that is not anti-Christ then what is? 80,000 SYs are 'crucifying' Jesus Christ again by preventing His gospel of the Kingdom of God from completion! Bertrand, you are literally supposed to remove an eye or cut off a limb if it hinders you in any way from entering the Kingdom of God. You are supposed to openly and at all times fearlessly declare the Good News of the Kingdom of God. Leaving the SY organization and completely cutting yourself from it is the only choice left if you truly understand how severe is the Saviour's dire warning. As i said before, you will associate yourself with this anti-Christ organization at your own peril. And let me make it absolutely clear to all who support it that under no circumstance whatsoever will it survive! Absolutely not ....... and its decades-old demise is evidence of that assured outcome and finality. (John Noyce, the WCASY appointed watch-dog of this forum can take this email and present it to Shri Mataji. i will stand by every word, and that includes the anti-Christ nature of the SY organization!) Shri Mataji has claimed that She has come to do the job of God Almighty. And to prove that, amongst many other aspects of Her Advent and Message, is our sacred and most blessed duty. She will help you with all the information, creativity and means to fulfil your desire: http://www.adishakti.org/_/granting_of_the_spirit_of_holiness_is_viewed_as_yet_t\ o_take_place_in_the_eschatological_future.htm If you want to be that messenger then serving His Spirit (Comforter) is all that should matter. For that you must be prepared to leave your family, friends and foes, and the problems associated with them, behind. And without question you must cut off completely from the 80,000 SYs who are 'crucifying' Jesus Christ again by preventing His gospel of the Kingdom from being fulfilled. Be forewarned! regards to all, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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