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October 2, 2009

Dear Jagbir, Violet, and all,

This post in particular really resonated with me. It awoke something in me, a

feeling, which I have not felt for a long time. I remember feeling this when I

first started coming on this forum and taking part actively. It has been such a

long time since the feelings of immediacy and call to duty were alive in me,

intermingling with this depth or awareness that I can't really describe. I have

become lost in the SYSSR with glimpses of what is really important spread

sporadically throughout. Not only lost, but entangled in all the fear of being

honest and upfront to everyone; not worrying if they think I'm crazy or if I can

convince them or not; daily cleansing rituals and fear, shame, and guilt-

immediately if I feel catches during the day or things related to that. What has

happened?

One thing that jumped out at me and had me really feeling my own fear ( which

was never there before) was

" If you want to be that messenger then serving His Spirit (Comforter)

is all that should matter. For that you must be prepared to leave

your family, friends and foes, and the problems associated with them,

behind. And without question you must cut off completely from the

80,000 SYs? "

Specifically the last sentence. I realize I have so much expected of me by the

Devi and I also realize that I have become so very lost and conditioned and

getting out of it is gonna be a long road and a huge battle inside of me. All of

it happened so subtly that I didn't realize it was creeping in. When I came back

from India it wasn't there but soon sprung up again. WOW!

I guess my sword has it's work cut out for it.

Krishna

, " adishakti_org "

<adishakti_org wrote:

>

> , Bertrand Tietcheu <btietcheu@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jagbir, Violet and All,

> > I am now realising how stupid was I to follow these organisations

> going out there called Sahaja Yoga, frankly now i can realise it,

> when i look back the last four year I have been practising SYSSR. The

> damage is serious, but anyway I have to move now the other way, by

> following the holy ghost within me, just that and announce the Divine

> Message of Resurrection and Collective emancipation of the Humankind.

> Its takes time to get rid of all the conditionnings and fears

> developed by this SYSSR.

> > Now I have started with my inner jihad.

> > Thanks for your wisdom

> >

> > Bertrand

> >

>

> Dear Bertrand and all,

>

> i am 100% convinced that the SYSSR is very destructive for your

> spiritual ascent and salvation as it corrupts and induces you to

> believe that keeping the subtle system clean (with the aid of rituals

> requiring lemons, chillies, footsoaks, candles, mantras etc.) and

> propagating that SYSSR message to others is what Sahaja Yoga is

> about. There is an evil force within the SY organization that has

> managed to suppress and corrupt the very reason God Almighty sent the

> Comforter. It is without question the greatest of crimes against

> humanity. If you have been following the recent posts then you will

> realize who is causing them to deviate.

>

> So do not support the SY organization in any way as it is the very

> reason the Message of the Comforter has been so effectively

> suppressed. Bertrand, if that is not anti-Christ then what is? 80,000

> SYs are 'crucifying' Jesus Christ again by preventing His gospel of

> the Kingdom of God from completion! Bertrand, you are literally

> supposed to remove an eye or cut off a limb if it hinders you in any

> way from entering the Kingdom of God. You are supposed to openly and

> at all times fearlessly declare the Good News of the Kingdom of God.

> Leaving the SY organization and completely cutting yourself from it

> is the only choice left if you truly understand how severe is the

> Saviour's dire warning.

>

> As i said before, you will associate yourself with this anti-Christ

> organization at your own peril. And let me make it absolutely clear

> to all who support it that under no circumstance whatsoever will it

> survive! Absolutely not ....... and its decades-old demise is

> evidence of that assured outcome and finality. (John Noyce, the WCASY

> appointed watch-dog of this forum can take this email and present it

> to Shri Mataji. i will stand by every word, and that includes the

> anti-Christ nature of the SY organization!)

>

> Shri Mataji has claimed that She has come to do the job of God

> Almighty. And to prove that, amongst many other aspects of Her Advent

> and Message, is our sacred and most blessed duty. She will help you

> with all the information, creativity and means to fulfil your desire:

>

http://www.adishakti.org/_/granting_of_the_spirit_of_holiness_is_viewed_as_yet_t\

o_take_place_in_the_eschatological_future.htm

>

> If you want to be that messenger then serving His Spirit (Comforter)

> is all that should matter. For that you must be prepared to leave

> your family, friends and foes, and the problems associated with them,

> behind. And without question you must cut off completely from the

> 80,000 SYs who are 'crucifying' Jesus Christ again by preventing His

> gospel of the Kingdom from being fulfilled. Be forewarned!

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

> -------------

>

> Past hype of major SY projects and present silence of abandonment

>

> Dear All,

>

> i received an email stressing that " one cannot have one foot in the

> forum and the other one in the collective SY " and that it is " almost

> like the SY Organisation is making its inroads on us again " . There

> was another email about SYs ignoring those active on this forum.

>

> To answer both i need to present some facts first.

>

> i have been tracking all the major projects and loud claims made by

> the SY organization over the last few years. Till date none of them

> even remotely met the intended aims and projections .... far from it.

> Such is the scope and surety of failure that all major projects have

> been quietly shelved in 2009.

>

> No matter how much effort is put into SYSSR programs the return is

> almost nil or embarrassingly negligible. Remember the huge effort in

> Mumbai over the years?

>

> " But the stubborn camel will drink one day, or slowly die of thirst

> as it is becoming evident everywhere. i recently learnt that out of

> about 200,000 people given self-realization over the years in the

> Mumbai area only 100 or so have remained i.e., about a success rate

> of 0.0002%. i would not want to 'insult' the Adi Shakti by quoting

> North American figures. Maybe now we can realize why no figures were

> given in the recent hyped-up NA newsletter to commence a spiritual

> crusade. "

>

> /message/4142

>

> There is growing evidence of capitulation by SYs in Europe and North

> America, and the world over. You hear almost nothing of any SYs in

> Africa, China, South America, Middle-east and Indonesia. SYs are not

> only minuscule but stagnated as well in India, Australia, Britain and

> elsewhere. There is not a single shred of evidence pointing to any

> success in any country! The deafening silence of 2009 signals that.

>

> Only the physical presence of an aging, retired and silent Shri

> Mataji remains, and give SYs hope and inspiration. Since Her official

> retirement last year, 2009 has witnessed a sudden abandonment of past

> projects. There is now almost no hope or evidence that the SYSSR will

> ever succeed, a fact made obvious by this post and recent dismal web

> reports of www.sahajayoga.org. The day Shri Mataji leaves will

> trigger that assured end and disintegration of the SYSSR organization.

>

> So what is there to worry or care that " one cannot have one foot in

> the forum and the other one in the collective SY " and that it

> is " almost like the SY Organisation is making its inroads on us

> again " , and that SYs are ignoring those active on this forum. i am

> not the least concerned about these petty problems from SYs who

> dislike us for the simple reason that we insist they tell the advent

> and message of Shri Mataji in its entirety i.e., they be truthful and

> honest to the public. i feel embarrassed to have to deny speculation

> that the SY Organisation is making its inroads on us again when it is

> almost devoid of life itself! That speculation makes no sense.

>

> All these useless speculations and distractions (negativity) only

> divert our attention from accomplishing the ONLY project 80,000 SYs

> refuse to participate in - the Project to tell the Truth! (What is

> the nature of the negativity that have silenced so many for so long?)

>

> i, for one, do not want that negativity to attack me from those i am

> contact with. It has nothing to do with being the messengers of Al

> Naba (The Great News). If you want to be that messenger then serving

> His Spirit (Comforter) is all that should matter. For that you must

> be prepared to leave your family, friends and foes, and the problems

> associated with them, behind. i hope i have put this issue to rest

> once and for all. There is so much of productive and enriching work

> over the years to be done. To be disturbed by such pettiness indeed

> insults both intelligence and conscience.

>

> regards to all,

>

> jagbir

>

October 3, 2009

Re: 80,000 SYs are 'crucifying' Jesus Christ again by preventing His gospel of

the Kingdom of God from completion

Dear Krishna, Bertrand, Nicole, Jagbir and All,

Being upfront to the public about Shri Mataji's continuation of Jesus Christ's

Message doesn't seem to work for SYs who follow the new religion, the SYSSR,

which is based upon, but does not listen to or put into practise what Shri

Mataji has been saying. Their main concern seems to be to get rid of their

individual catches, but they are having trouble with that, too. i haven't heard

of any testimonies from them, that they have gotten rid of their catches, 100%.

Yet at the Guru Puja 2008, Shri Mataji said that most SYs should by now have

gotten rid of all their catches. But that only happens through following Shri

Mataji, not following a religion.

Having one's initial self-realization brings one the connection of the Divine

Mother, as the awakened Holy Spirit within. Then that connection needs to be

understood and made use of. There is not much point in having the connection and

then not using it. That is why it is also so important for people to understand

the meaning of this connection, and how Self-realization is such a big subject

that absolutely encompasses everything:

http://www.adishakti.org/

The real Self-realization starts when a person surrenders to the Divine Mother

within, the awakened Holy Spirit. That is the only way a person will ever rid

themselves of their catches, 100%. No external religion, including the new SYSSR

can achieve that, which is why SYs following the organised SYSSR are still

working on their catches. While the SYSSR claims in the beginning that its

methods will clear your chakras, in the end it admits its failure--that SYs will

never be completely free of catches for their whole lifetime! What kind of

faulty religion is that, where it can claim to give you methods to clear your

chakras, but once you have become well and truly conditioned by their methods,

they then tell you that SYs will never be completely free of catches, anyway? It

is not the Pure Religion of Shri Mataji and of Shri Jesus. When in the Guru Puja

2008 talk, Shri Mataji said that by now most SYs should be free of catches, She

made this faulty new religion face up to its own impotence, to rid SYs of their

catches, 100%. That is also why She said in the mid-1990's that:

" I hope that you don't make a religion out of my teachings. "

Because, when people do that, they stop following the Incarnation's teachings

and follow a new religion instead, that somebody has created around those

teachings, but which is faulty as it leaves out a lot of what the Incarnation

gave. That is what has happened in the past, and it has happened in Sahaja Yoga.

And that is how 80,000 SYs can be 'crucifying' Jesus again by preventing the

completion of His gospel of the Kingdom of God. All that has to happen is to

tell the truth. The organised SYSSR cannot do that. It is the latest proof that

not only are religions relatively useless, but a diminishment of the Truth that

an Incarnation gave. Even SYs have lost the Truth when they have tried to make a

religion out of the Divine Mother's teachings. The shock is just how much they

have left out!

regards to all,

violet

http://www.adishakti.org/forum/eschatology_the_very_heart_and_soul_of_judaism_ch\

ristianity_and_islam_3-11-2009.htm

, " krishna_volk " <krishna.deha

wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir, Violet, and all,

>

> This post in particular really resonated with me. It awoke something in me, a