Without question Christ is the force impelling Hinduism towards its full flowering

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" Christians in general are well acquainted with the idea that Christ

will come at the end of time and that all religions are pointing

towards him, who is the expectation of the peoples. This idea,

however, should not overshadow the complementary and, in a way,

previous truth that Christ is not only at the end but also at the

beginning. He could not be the Omega of everything if he were not

also the Alpha. Christ, from a Christian point of view, is not only

the ontological goal of Hinduism, but also its true inspirer, and his

grace is the guiding, though hidden, force impelling Hinduism towards

its full flowering. He is the ‘Principle’ that spoke to Men and was

already at work before Abraham. He was present in the stone that

Moses struck so unbelievingly, and he acted in Moses himself when

he chose to share the life of his people. He may have been called

by many names, but his presence and activity were always there. The

encounter is not an ideological one, but takes place in the deepest

recesses of reality—in what Christian tradition calls the Mystery. "

 

The unknown Christ of Hinduism, pp. 2-3

Darton,Longman & Todd Ltd; Revised ed edition (February 1981)

ISBN-10: 0232514968

ISBN-13: 978-0232514964

 

 

" The View of God in the Gospel

At the outset of the gospel it is clear that the God of Jesus is not

the creator god of the Jews. In one of the opening scenes, Jesus

finds the disciples gathered together “in pious observance.”

Literally, the Coptic says that the disciples were “engaged in

practices with respect to God.” They were sharing an eucharistic

meal, in which they were thanking God for their food. One would

expect Jesus to respect this religious act. But instead he begins to

laugh. The disciples don’t see what is funny: “Why are you laughing

at our prayer of thanksgiving? We have done what is right.” Jesus

replies that they don’t know what they are really doing: By giving

thanks for their food, they are praising their god—that is, not the

God of Jesus. Now the disciples are befuddled: “Master, you are … the

son of our god.” No, it turns out, he is not. Jesus responds that no

one of their “generation” will know who he really is.

 

The disciples do not take kindly to this rebuke and “start getting

angry and raging and blaspheming against him in their hearts.” Jesus

proceeds to upbraid them and speaks again about “your god who is

within you.” At play here are several key themes, which repeat

throughout the narrative: The disciples of Jesus do not know who he

really is; they worship a God who is not Jesus’ father; they don’t

understand the truth about God. Judas, the only one who truly

understands, declares that Jesus has come from “the immortal realm of

Barbelo,” that is, from the realm of the true immortal divine beings,

not from the lower realm of the creator god of the Jews. "

 

The Gospel of Judas, pages 104-5

National Geographic, April 6, 2006

ISBN-10: 1426200420

ISBN-13: 978-1426200427

 

 

" When we look at his experience during his traumatic arrest, trial

and crucifixion we see a man at peace within Himself and with the

world. He was condemned for his zeal and for his perceived threat to

society, because he was misunderstood. I have experienced that to a

lesser degree in my life - being condemned for being a Hare Krishna,

for being different and incomprehensible. I have been spat at and

derided, but not crucified. I have no idea what Jesus had to give up,

in His early thirties, so that I, in my early forties, could be

inspired to follow the Godly path.

 

The fact is I can see myself in Jesus. I recognise and empathise with

His life, His temptations and His suffering. But I can see a lot more

in Him than my faltering attempts at spirituality. I can see someone

transcending the materialism of this world. Hindus as much as anyone

talk much about this noble ideal but it is a true celebration when

someone, anyone of any tradition begins to make sense, spiritually.

And so many of us don't seem to make sense spiritually.

 

We can acquire a religious reputation, be addressed by religious

titles. We can easily learn to say the right thing and wear the

appropriate clothes and chant the right passwords for all religious

occasions, and look passably good. But the example of Jesus and other

saints challenge any insincerity in our heart, any duplicity and

hypocrisy. They display another level of faith, a level called love

and their love is beyond our need to be right about everything, to

dominate others and to demand them to conform to our perception. They

are humble.

 

It's about a deep change of heart. It's about knowing God as a friend

and as a lover. It's about being happy to love God with the full

trust that He will take care of us in all circumstances, just as a

small child will trust their father or mother. It's about accepting

absence of god in our lives as enthusiastically as His embrace.

 

It's difficult for us to neatly categorise Jesus, this love of God,

as a Christian or a Jew. He talked only of His Father and he was not

enamoured of politics, religion or wealth as He experienced them.

God's service was His life, His love and his religion.

 

Remember my Indian friend who loved Ishu so much? What about him? Was

he a follower of Christ? Could he have a personal relationship with

God? Would he have to " bath in the blood of the Lamb " first? (a

terrible option for vegetarians). These are important questions

though, " Can a Hindu follow Jesus? " ; " Can a Hindu love god with all

his heart and soul? " ; " Do you have to be a Christian to follow

Christ? " ; even " Who owns Christ? " .

 

The Sanskrit word acharya means 'one who teaches by example'. For

Hindus, Christ is an acharya. His example is a light to any of us in

this world who want to take up the serious practise of spiritual

life. His message is no different from the message preached in

another time and place by Lord Krishna and Lord Chaitanya. It would

be a great shame if we allowed our Hinduism, our Islam, our Judaism

or indeed our Christianity to stand in the way of being able to

follow the teachings and example of such a great soul as Lord Jesus

Christ. "

 

Jesus through Hindu eyes

by Shaunaka Rishi Das

 

www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/features/hindu_eyes/index.shtml

 

 

" Around the middle of this century Arnold Toynbee predicted that at

its close the world would still be dominated by the West, but that in

the twenty-first century " India will conquer her conquerors " .1

Preempting the place that is now held by technology, religion will be

restored to its earlier importance and the center of world happenings

will wander back from the shores of the Atlantic to the East where

civilization originated five or six thousand years ago.

 

The spiritual heritage of India is one of the world’s standing

miracles. It would rank among the greatest human achievements were it

not that “achievement” isn’t really the right word. It is more like a

reception - the opening of a people to receive, through inspiration,

The Breath of the Eternal. For the outbreathing of the eternal is

what India has taken truth to be - see infra, p. 8. We know

that “Hinduism” is a label affixed by outsiders. Long ago, people to

the west of the Indus River mispronounced its name and called those

who lived on it or to its other side “Hindus,” and in time “Hinduism”

came to be used for their beliefs and practices. The Indians

themselves knew no such word. There was no need for them to think of

the truth by which they lived as other than the sanatana dharma, the

Eternal Truth. It was Truth Itself—truth that had become incarnate in

the tradition that sustained them. "

 

Huston Smith, in the foreword to " The Spiritual Heritage if India " by

Swami Prabhavananda

Vedanta Press (June 1979)

ISBN-10: 0874810353

ISBN-13: 978-0874810356

 

 

 

Meeting The Universal Savior

 

" Question: " What language did Lord Jesus Christ talk with you? "

 

He did not understand the meaning of language and was explained so.

 

Arwinder: " Like how I talk. " (i.e., in English.)

 

Question: " What language did He talk with the others. "

 

Arwinder: " Different. "

 

Question: " What you mean 'different'? "

 

Arwinder: " Like Punjabi. "

 

(This probably is Sanskrit as he, having heard Punjabi being spoken

at home and which he does not understand, thought it to be similar.

The point is that it is like Punjabi, not Punjabi.)

 

The fact that Shri Jesus spoke with the other Divine Beings in

Sanskrit will profoundly enlighten those who contemplate in silence

the sheer depth of this Revelation. He is part and parcel of the

Sanatana Dharma, even claiming to have existed before Abraham, a

declaration not taken lightly by fellow Jews.

 

Then said the Jews unto him, thou art not yet fifty years old, and

hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them: Verily, verily, I say

unto you, before Abraham was, I am. Then they took up stones to cast

at him. ( John 8: 57-9)

 

According to Shri Mataji Jesus was already existing eons ago at the

very beginning of Creation itself. The history of the Divine is far

more ancient than the billions of years it took for this Earth to

come to its present form. It is the endless birth and dissolution of

universes that constitutes Time.

 

So how old is the Universal Savior? Why is He witnessed mingling with

Shri Ganesha, Rama, Krishna, Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu and others,

extremely ancient Vedic Supreme Beings who have been existing since

the Dawn of Creation? "

 

www.adishakti.org/new_age_children/meeting_the_universal_savior.htm

 

 

" What we need today is to know that there is a God, and that we

can see and feel Him here and now. We want everything but God,

because our ordinary desires are fulfilled by the external world. So

long as our needs are confined within the limits of the physical

universe, it is only when we have had hard blows in our lives and

are disappointed with everything here that we feel the need for

something higher; then we seek God.

 

Religion can be relished. Are you ready? Do you want it? You will

get realization if you do, and then you will be truly religious.

Until you have attained realization, there is no difference between

you and atheists. The atheists are sincere, but the man who says

that he believes in religion and never attempts to realize it is not

sincere.

 

Religion deals with the truths of the metaphysical world, just as

chemistry and the other natural sciences deal with the truths of the

physical world. Each soul is a star, and all stars are set in that

infinite azure, that eternal sky, the Lord. There is the root, the

reality, the real individuality of each and all. Religion began with

the search after some of these stars that had passed beyond you

horizon, and ended in finding them in God, and ourselves in the same

place....

 

Take religion from human society and what will remain? Nothing but a

forest of brutes. Sense-happiness is not the goal of humanity;

wisdom is the goal of all life.

 

Can religion really accomplish anything? It can. It brings to man

eternal life. It has made man what he is and will make of this human

animal, a God. That is what religion can do. The ideal of all

religions, all sects, is the same-the attaining of liberty, the

cessation of misery.

 

Not a drop will be in the ocean, not a twig in the deepest forest,

not a crumb in the house of the god of wealth, if the Lord is not

merciful. Streams will be in the desert and the beggar will have

plenty if He wills it. He seeth the sparrow's fall. Are these but

words or literal, actual life?

 

These prophets were not unique; they were men as you or I. They were

great Yogis. They had gained this super-consciousness, and you and I

can get the same. They very fact that one man ever reached that

state, proves that it is possible for every man to do so. Not only

is it possible, but every man must, eventually, get to that state,

and that is religion.

 

Religions of the world have become lifeless mockeries. What the

world wants is character. The world is in need fro those whose life

is one burning love, selfless. That love will make every word tell

like thunderbolt....

 

If there is ever to be a universal religion, it must be one which

will have no location in place or time; which will be infinite like

the God it will preach, and whose sun will shine upon the followers

of Krishna and of Christ, on saints and sinners alike; which will

not be Brahminic or Buddhistic, Christian or Mohammedan, but the sum

total of all these, and still have infinite space fro development;

which in its catholicity will embrace in its infinite arms, and find

a place for, every human being, from the lowest groveling savage not

far removed from the brute, to the highest man towering by virtues

of his head and heart almost above humanity, making society stand in

awe of him and doubt his human nature. It will be a religion which

will have no place for persecution or intolerance in its polity,

which will recognize divinity in every man and woman, and whose

whole scope, whose whole force, will be centered in aiding humanity

to realize its own true, divine nature.

 

What I want to propagate is a religion that will be equally

acceptable to all minds; it must be equally philosophic, equally

emotional, equally mystic, and equally conducive to action. And this

combination will be the ideal of the nearest approach to a universal

religion. Would to God that all men were so constituted that in

their minds all these elements of philosophy, mysticism, emotion,

and of work were equally present in full! That is the ideal, my

ideal of a perfect man. Everyone who has only one or two of these

elements of character, I consider " one-sided " ; and this world

is almost full of such " one-sided " men, with knowledge of that

one road only in which they move; and anything else is dangerous and

horrible to them. To become harmoniously balanced in all these four

directions is my ideal of religion....

 

Hindus accept every religion, praying in the mosque of the

Mohammedans, worshipping before the fire of the Zoroastrians, and

kneeling before the cross of the Christians, knowing that all the

religions, from the lowest fetishism to the highest absolutism, mean

so many attempts of the human soul to grasp and realize the

infinite, each determined by the conditions of its birth and

associations, and each of them marking a stage of progress. We

gather all these flowers and bind them with the twine of love,

making a wonderful bouquet of worship.

 

Religion is realization; not talk, nor doctrine, nor theories,

however beautiful they may be. It is being and becoming, not hearing

or acknowledging; it is the whole soul becoming changed into what it

believes.

 

This life is short, the vanities of the world are transient, but

they alone live who live for others, the rest are more dead than

alive.

 

Be you holy and, above all, sincere and do not for a moment give up

your trust in the Lord and you will see the light. Whatever is truth

will remain for ever; whatever is not, none can preserve. Whatever

others think or do, lower not your standard of purity, morality, and

love of God. No one who loves God need fear any jugglery. Holiness

is the highest and divinest power in earth and in heaven. " Truth

alone triumphs, not untruth. Through truth alone is opened the way

to God. " Do not care for a moment who joins hands with you or

not, be sure that you touch the hand of the Lord. "

 

Swami Vivekananda

 

 

The central role of Jesus and the Comforter in salvation is indisputable

 

Dear All,

 

i have just purchased Deepak Chopra's " The Third Jesus: The Christ We

Cannot Ignore " . After nearly 15 years of meditation on the Divine

Mother, the central role of Jesus and the Comforter in salvation is

indisputable. This is the Christ we cannot ignore, no matter our

religious background. During the past few days i have realized that:

 

i) Jesus Christ specifically and repeated preached about the Kingdom

of God within. The Comforter Shri Mataji also did the same but in

greater detail. She spent more than 30 years preaching about the

Sahasrara (Kingdom of God) after opening it on May 5, 1970.

 

ii) Jesus Christ proclaimed that " God is a Spirit: and they that

worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. " (John 4, 24).

The Comforter Shri Mataji has said the same but in greater detail.

She spent more than 30 years teaching us how to worship God in spirit

and truth i.e, making us realize and meditate on our Self.

 

iii) Life can only be eternal if it is the spirit. The Bhagavad Gita

claims that:

 

The invisible Spirit (Atma, Atman) is eternal, and the visible

physical body, is transitory. The reality of these two is indeed

certainly seen by the seers of truth. (2.16)

The Spirit by whom this entire universe is pervaded is

indestructible. No one can destroy the imperishable Spirit. (2.17)

The physical bodies of the eternal, immutable, and incomprehensible

Spirit are perishable. (2.18)

The one who thinks that the Spirit is a slayer, and the one who

thinks the Spirit is slain, both are ignorant. Because the Spirit

neither slays nor is slain. (2.19)

The Spirit is neither born nor does it die at any time. It does not

come into being, or cease to exist. It is unborn, eternal, permanent,

and primeval. The Spirit is not destroyed when the body is destroyed.

(2.20)

Just as a person puts on new garments after discarding the old ones;

similarly, the living entity or the individual soul acquires new

bodies after casting away the old bodies. (2.22)

Weapons do not cut this Spirit, fire does not burn it, water does not

make it wet, and the wind does not make it dry. The Spirit cannot be

cut, burned, wetted, or dried. It is eternal, all pervading,

unchanging, immovable, and primeval. (2.23-24)

The Spirit is said to be unexplainable, incomprehensible, and

unchanging. Knowing the Spirit as such you should not grieve. (2.25)

 

Jesus Christ in the one and only incarnation who proved the above. By

resurrecting Himself Jesus gave evidence, hope and joy to all His

brothers and sisters that they too can resurrect into the eternal

spirit .............. and join Him in Heaven!

 

iv) Jesus salvation by " being born again of the Spirit " is the same

as Shri Mataji's moksa through the awakening of the Mother Kundalini.

 

And by sending the Comforter He fulfilled His promise that His

teachings will be completed. Of the many teachings about Christ that

Shri Mataji completed, one of the most priceless has to be the

technique of resurrection by being born of the Spirit (Kundalini

awakening). It is Jesus Himself who claimed that those born again

will feel the wind:

 

Jesus answered and said unto him,

Verily, verily I say unto thee, except a man born be born again,

He cannot see the Kingdom of God.

Nicodemus saith unto him,

How can a man be born again when he is old?

Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jesus answered: Verily, verily, I say unto thee,

Except a man born of water and the Spirit,

He cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.

That which is born of flesh is flesh and that which is born of Spirit

is spirit,

Marvel not that I said unto thee: Ye must be born again.

The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound

thereof,

But cannot tell whence it comes and where it goeth:

So is every one that is born of the Spirit.

 

John 3:3-8

 

The Comforter insists that those taking part in the Blossom Time (The

Resurrection) will feel the Cool Breeze of the Holy Spirit (Mother

Kundlaini) flowing from their hands, head and other parts of the body.

 

v) Jesus reveals that His Father (God Almighty) is the Spirit. The

Spirit is nothing else but Brahman.

 

" One of the messages of the Upanishads is that the Spirit can only be

known through union with him, and not through mere learning. And can

any amount of learning make us feel love, or see beauty or hear the

`unheard melodies'? Some have only seen the variety of thought in the

Upanishads, not their underlying unity. To them the words in the

sacred texts might be applied: " Who sees variety and not the unity

wanders on from death to death. "

 

The spirit of the Upanishads is the Spirit of the Universe. Brahman,

God himself, is their underlying spirit. The Christians must feel

that Brahman is God, and the Hindu must feel that God is Brahman.

Unless a feeling of reverence independent of the barriers of names

can be felt for the ineffable, the sayings of the Upanishads is

true: " Words are weariness, " the same idea expressed by the prophet

that " Of making many books there is no end. "

 

The Holy Spirit may be the nearest translation of Brahman in

Christian language. Whilst God the Father and God the Son are in the

foreground of the mind of many Christians, the Holy Spirit seems to

receive less adoration. And in India the Brahman of the Upanishads is

not as popular as Siva, Vishnu or Krishna. Even Brahma, the

manifestation of Brahman as creator, and not to be confused with him,

is not living in the daily devotions of the Hindu, as are the other

two gods of the trinity, Siva and Vishnu. The Upanishads doctrine is

not a religion of the many; but rather the Spirit behind all

religions in their central theme repeated in such a wonderful variety

of ways.

 

Brahman in the Universe, God in his transcendence and immanence is

also the Spirit of man, the self in every one and in all, Atman. Thus

the momentous statement is made in the Upanishads that God must not

be sought as something far away, separate from us, but rather as the

very inmost of us, as the higher Self in us above the limitations of

our little self. Thus when the sage of the Upanishads is pressed for

a definition of God, he remains silent, meaning that God is silence.

When asked again to express God in words, he says " Neti, neti, " " Not

his, not this " ; but when pressed for a positive explanation he utters

the sublimely simple words " TAT TWAM ASI, " " Thou art That. " "

 

Juan Mascaro, The Upanishads

 

Most of what i have written is based on the Adi Shakti's revelations

in the Sahasrara or Kingdom of God within, so that others can be

convinced;

 

“If we are to vindicate the truth of spiritual values, we must

discover them in a universal form, rising above sectarianism and

dogmatism...

 

In 1947 in New Delhi, representatives of the different world

religions were participating in a conference. During a recess some of

the delegates were drinking water at a fountain. They were all

thirsty, and they drank the same water. But speaking different

languages as they did, they expressed themselves in different ways.

They referred to the same substance by using different words. Gandhi

said that therein lies the essence of the universal outlook. When the

people become religious-minded or spiritually-oriented, they feel the

thirst of the soul. They are on the lookout for a fountain to satisfy

their thirst.

 

These spiritually thirsty people in different countries and in

different ages were perhaps mysteriously guided by God to discover

that fountain. But speaking different languages as they did, born in

the varied historical circumstances, growing up in different cultural

systems, they expressed themselves in different ways. In consequence,

we have different theological systems in different countries... But

underlying all these divergent theological notions there is one

ultimate reality which is capable of satisfying our spiritual

thirst...

 

The philosophical implication is that the ultimate criterion of truth

is experience. We hear a lot of things and they may sound good. But

until and unless we experience something, we refuse to be convinced

completely. We may give brilliant discourses on God, on the Absolute,

on the higher self. They may be intellectually stimulating, but our

mind may be filled with skepticism and assailed with doubts. In the

absence of any personal experience or realization, this is just high-

sounding talk.”

 

Dr. Haridas Chaudhuri, The Essence of Spiritual Philosophy

Thorsons Publishing Group, UK, 1990, p. 21-22

 

Thus if " we are to vindicate the truth of spiritual values, we must

discover them in a universal form, rising above sectarianism and

dogmatism " . The central role of Jesus and the Comforter in salvation

does just that .......... and much more. It is all based on thousands

of personal experiences over the years of Kash, Arwinder and Lalita

meeting, questioning, conversing and meditating with the Divine

Feminine.

 

The ultimate criterion of truth, indeed, is first-hand experience.

That is the only reason i absolutely believe that Shri Mataji is the

incarnation of the Divine Feminine, and is the Comforter sent by

Jesus in the name of God Almighty for the salvation/moksa/liberation

of human beings. Only this experience, evidence and enlightenment of

eschatological evolution is ultimately capable--but only when we have

truly understood it over time--of truly quenching and satisfying our

spiritual thirst. Without question Christ is the " force impelling

Hinduism towards its full flowering " as its Holy Scriptures are the

very roots of all the experience, evidence and enlightenment of

eschatological evolution.......... Period!

 

regards to all,

 

jagbir

 

 

" We are made out of Yoga. Ours is the land of Yoga. We are not

egoistic, nor do we want to be so. We desire to live on this land as

Yogis. A day will dawn, when the whole world would bow to this

country (India) in reverence. Then people would know who Jesus Christ

was, and from where He came! He would then be worshipped with due

respect on this sacred land. In India, even today, the modesty of

women is protected and they are treated with proper respect. All over

our country, we regard the Mother with great reverence. When the

people from other countries would visit this land they would know

that it is in this country that real Christianity is practiced with

great devotion, but not in countries which profess the Christian

religion.

 

Jesus Christ said that we should be born again. In our country we

refer to this process as Dwija or born for the second time. The

second birth of any human being is possible only by awakening of

Kundalini Power. So long as the Kundalini is not awakened, one will

not acquire the second birth, and so long as we do not have rebirth

we will not be able to recognise God. You read the Bible after

Realization. You will be surprised to know that Jesus Christ has told

nothing but the importance of Sahaja Yoga. Everything has been

explained with minor details. Those who have no insight, misrepresent

the matters. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

Shri Kundalini Shakti And Shri Jesus Christ

Bombay, India — September 26, 1979

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