[aryasamajonline] Modern Human mind Vs Holy Veda's thinking

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This is bad and sad and also unfortunate that after 130 years of Arya samaj in existence some people are still confused between two protocols- the divine protocol and the human protocol. If you give two protocols to any biggest data processing machine even that can not work properly and can remain confused. But actually speaking since manushya pranis is defined as manansheel parani then he can develop the capability to work with either or both and be able to differentiate between two protocols when used.

Divine protocol is embedded in Arya samja’s first few niyam and more is written in the first sammullas and iswar ved vishya by HMD where he has explained the 100 names of Ishwar and vedas n ishawar also in swamatvya prakash where the definitions of various words are given. All these things should be learned first and meditated over and over and used in further thinking process. Also people should think over the words of holy Vedas from the prospective of divine protocol rather than human protocol. They should also not go for translated words rather use the original words and refer original explanation text by holy vedic rishis , holy brham rishis and maharishis etc i.e who have studied four Vedas sangopnag and not

from scholars cause really commenting on holy Vedas is not every body’s business or any tom dick or Harry’s business. Holy Ved gyan is not like bhakti marg it is gyan marg which is razor sharp marg. Holy barham rishi Manu has set a precedence that a charo vedo ka gyata sanyasi can alone set a vyavastha for raj dharma . that means that is the weightage given to a chro vedo ka gyata and sanyasi. So what was the rael high esteem and value of a charo vedon ka gyata is not understandable now because no one is sangopnag charo vedo ka gyata at present to show his capability of gyan vigyan and vidya. Modern Scholars mind can be marred by the conventions of

human protocol while they are working in understanding Vedas. Why some one thinks maharishi vrijanand asked dayanand to dump all his books in the river jamuna he studied so far. Why HMD has banned several books from studying as written in SP. at least these books used the same language so there was no problem of compatibility of words . Now since we are not using Vedic language in these discussion there is a big problem of compatibility of words used as equivalent of Vedic words .also there is no charo vedon ka gyata to say this text is useless. So what ever is written after the charo vedo ka gyata i.e HMD is still to be checked for authenticity by such a person. In fact this is one of the big problems in creating confusion and misunderstanding coz the language of discussions is not the language of the holy Vedas and all language are not designed and developed to take the load of braham gyan and thus creating confusions an misunderstanding. People are not able to comprehend the ocean like depth, sky like height and brahmand like width of holy ved gyan. The words are so condensed they have multiple meanings applicable to iswar jeev and prakrit. The spirit of Vedic words could be way different than that is understood by other language writer or readers. There are several things which can be said about the uniqueness of holy Vedas and the gyan and vigyan contained there in.but i will not go too far in that subjcet.

I will quote few things to illustrated how things are differently said in holy Vedas and how they are taken by modern human minds and by manushya Pranis

1-take this word- ahinsa . it has been used by one religion as the basis to run a full flanged religion ( religion is not dharma ) and they say, “ ahinsa parmo dharmah” And luckily or unluckily this is known and understood as such by you, me, he, she and every one today through out the world. There are humongous literature, scholastic notes, research papers UNO papers, human rights commissions papers , numerous monks and saints are behind it and even so called “mahatma” M.K Gandhi was trapped in to it(

although chanted raghupati raghva raja ram who killed people and fought wars) many countries are behind this word including the country of holy Vedas and brahm rishis and Maha rishis . But if these people can look into SP and read with their correct looking glasses they can see that Holy Braham Rish Manu has not included it in the 10 laxan of dharma . what happened ?? what has gone wrong ?? wher this word ahinsa is gone ??who is correct who is wrong ???? The whole world or the Holy braham rishi ???

2- take another word; Prem – the same story again. there is one religion mainly based on this word, there is whole world behind it. There may be even bigger literature if not from government resources but from other human and mnushya prani resources such as poets, literary writers and social preachers, cinemas and so on. I saw one big roadside signboard saying ‘prem hi dharma hai’ while going from gaziabad to delhi just before the hapur road junction. But again the same thing , holy braham rishi manu has not included this word in 10 laxan of dharma .

How holy braham rishi is writing 10 other words and not writing these two words which the whole word today adorns !!!!!! is a big……big ………. Big…….. question ????????????????????????????/

3-Take another word called –Lok sabha ; this word and its counterpart in English language is the best and most humanistic and most sensible and most revered, adorned and dignified thinkable word in the circles of governance , power and politics today. No country can dream about running its country with out knowing and practicing this word and the phenomenon functions and procedures entailed with this word. Wars have been fought and lot of human blood has been shed and more may be in offing to introduce this world to those countries and communities who didn’t have this word in their vocabulary. This word in a way has become synonymous to existence of any one be he she a panushya

parni or a human being . But alas !!! again this word is not included in the list of sabhas prescribed by this time not by a brham rishi but by holy parampita paramatam (HPP) Himself as written in SP sammulas sixth first page where HMD has quoted holy mantra 3 from mandal 3 sukta 34 of holiest Rig-Veda that gives the "samvidhan ( constitution is not samvidhan )to raj dharma to run 3 sabhas namely- aarya vidaya sabha, araya dharm sabha, and aarya rajya sabha only. What happened to lok sabhas ?? Where Lok sabha is gone ? when HPP mentioned other three sabha why He couldn’t mention the fourth ???. But this is the truth that Lok sabah don’t exist in the scheme of things in Holy Veda’s gyan vigyan and vidya.!strage to modern human minds but truth

for HPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Many more things can be written like this e.g aham brahsmi , excuse theory, incarnation theory etc which can dock Holy Veda’s gayan vigyan and vidya against the modern human and manushya parni’s thinking. But the HPP , HVRs, HBRs and HMRs are not bothered. They are writing the truth they know. simply coz they are not for aligning themselves with modern human ‘s thinking; they are there to tell the truth. But modern Vedic scholars may not afford to do that. And Aryans should understand that and also that holy Vedas can only be understood on holy Vedas terms not on modern Human or manushya prani’s terms.

Dhany vad and

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