Guest guest Posted October 8, 2004 Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 Dear members, Can any one give information, where can i get skanda purana in english. With Warm Regards, Satish ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Dear Satish and members, The Skanda Purana has been translated into English and published as part of the Sacred Books of India. However, the original Skanda Purana is in Sanskrit, not Tamil. Satish is probably not asking about the Sanskrit Skanda Purana (which is not about Skanda, incidentally, but is an encyclopedia of mythology dedicated to Skanda), but about the Tamil classic Kantap Puranam by Kachchiappar (13th-14th Cent. C.E.) based upon the much older Skanda Purana. The Kantap Puranam is much shorter than the Skanda Purana (which is surpassed in terms of length only by the Mahabharata), and is an amalgam of the Northern (Sanskritic) and Southern (Tamil) literary and oral traditions surrounding the composite god Skanda-Murugan. For instance, the episode about Valli and Murugan does not appear in the Northern tradition at all, and even the Kantap Puranam reflects this in that the Valli-Murugan romance is tacked on at the end almost as an afterthought (which, however, does not preclude its having originated from the very oldest stata of Tamil oral and literary tradition). There are other important differences, too. Kachchiappar takes episodes and chief antagonists from both the Sanskrit and Tamil traditions and presents them all together as 'brothers' with Soora Pathuman as the eldest and chief. This innovation was found nowhere in either the earlier Tamil or Sanskrit traditions. The point here is, there is a Skanda Purana in Sanskrit, the prestigious language of the North, and there is a Kantap Puranam in Tamil, the classical language of the South. But the two are not the same. In fact, they are quite different. Skanda in the Northern tradition is an austere bachelor who never marries at all, ever, while the Kanda-Muruga of the Southern tradition has not one female consort, but two (neither of whom are known or mentioned in the Northern tradition). Kaumara devotees (most of whom speak Tamil and almost none of whom read Sanskrit) tend to wrongly assume that the two puranas are merely two versions of the same purana, which they are not. The Murugan Bhakti site has begun to publish that portion of the Skanda Purana that deals with the birth and career of god Skanda (starting with Chapter 21: " Parvati's Penance " ). This translation of the (Sanskrit) Skanda Purana was translated and annotated by Dr. G.V. Tagare (Delhi: Motilal Banarsidass Publishers Ltd). Again, only the initial chapter has been published (line for line, verse for verse) online to date at: http://murugan.org/texts/skanda-purana-chapt21.htm The same site is also undertaking to publish a condensed English rendition of the Kantap Puranam, but to date only the very first episode has been published online at: http://murugan.org/saivaneethi/kanda-puranam-1.htm There is also a highly condensed pictorial summary of the Kantap Puranam in 18 pages on the same site that may be found at: http://murugan.org/gallery/kanda_puranam/index.htm Eventually the entire relevant (i.e. concerning Skanda-Murugan) sections of the Skanda Purana and Kandap Puranam may be published in their entirety. But it is a huge job. Please be patient and watch for more chapters to come out. yours as ever, in service Patrick Harrigan Editor Murugan Bhakti www.murugan.org At 04:29 PM 10/8/2004, you wrote: >Dear members, > >Can any one give information, where can i get skanda purana in english. > > >With Warm Regards, >Satish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2004 Report Share Posted October 10, 2004 Dear Patrick Harrigan, Thanks for giving me lots of information, i am new to spirtual world. Lord Murugan is my family lord. One year back i had lots of problem, then i started praying to Lord Murugan from June 2004 this year. Slowly everything seems to fall in place together. Due to this i wanted to read skanda purana, but as per you skanda purana is different from how we south indians pray him (that is with is consorts). I would like to know more about Kantap Puranam if it is available in book form in english. One of my known friend (brahmin) promised to teach me skanda shasti kavacham. Your site is doing really very good work by spreading murugan bhakti. I am also new to this group. With Warm Regards,Satish Patrick Harrigan <editor wrote: Dear Satish and members,The Skanda Purana has been translated into English and published as part of the Sacred Books of India. However, the original Skanda Purana is in Sanskrit, not Tamil. Satish is probably not asking about the Sanskrit Skanda Purana (which is not about Skanda, incidentally, but is an encyclopedia of mythology dedicated to Skanda), but about the Tamil classic Kantap Puranam by Kachchiappar (13th-14th Cent. C.E.) based upon the much older Skanda Purana.The Kantap Puranam is much shorter than the Skanda Purana (which is surpassed in terms of length only by the Mahabharata), and is an amalgam of the Northern (Sanskritic) and Southern (Tamil) literary and oral traditions surrounding the composite god Skanda-Murugan. For instance, the episode about Valli and Murugan does not appear in the Northern tradition at all, and even the Kantap Puranam reflects this in that the Valli-Murugan romance is tacked on at the end almost as an afterthought (which, however, does not preclude its having originated from the very oldest stata of Tamil oral and literary tradition). There are other important differences, too. Kachchiappar takes episodes and chief antagonists from both the Sanskrit and Tamil traditions and presents them all together as 'brothers' with Soora Pathuman as the eldest and chief. This innovation was found nowhere in either the earlier Tamil or Sanskrit traditions.The point here is, there is a Skanda Purana in Sanskrit, the prestigious language of the North, and there is a in Tamil, the classical language of the South. But the two are not the same. In fact, they are quite different. Skanda in the Northern tradition is an austere bachelor who never marries at all, ever, while the Kanda-Muruga of the Southern tradition has not one female consort, but two (neither of whom are known or mentioned in the Northern tradition). Kaumara devotees (most of whom speak Tamil and almost none of whom read Sanskrit) tend to wrongly assume that the two puranas are merely two versions of the same purana, which they are not.The Murugan Bhakti site has begun to publish that portion of the Skanda Purana that deals with the birth and career of god Skanda (starting with Chapter 21: "Parvati's Penance"). This translation of the (Sanskrit) Skanda Purana was translated and annotated by Dr. G.V. Tagare (Delhi: Motilal Banarsidass Publishers Ltd). Again, only the initial chapter has been published (line for line, verse for verse) online to date at:http://murugan.org/texts/skanda-purana-chapt21.htmThe same site is also undertaking to publish a condensed English rendition of the Kantap Puranam, but to date only the very first episode has been published online at:http://murugan.org/saivaneethi/kanda-puranam-1.htmThere is also a highly condensed pictorial summary of the Kantap Puranam in 18 pages on the same site that may be found at:http://murugan.org/gallery/kanda_puranam/index.htmEventually the entire relevant (i.e. concerning Skanda-Murugan) sections of the Skanda Purana and Kandap Puranam may be published in their entirety. But it is a huge job. Please be patient and watch for more chapters to come out.yours as ever, in servicePatrick HarriganEditorMurugan Bhaktiwww.murugan.orgAt 04:29 PM 10/8/2004, you wrote:>Dear members,>>Can any one give information, where can i get skanda purana in english.>>>With Warm Regards,>Satish ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 MURUGA SARANAM Dear Mr. Patrick Harrigan.. Thank you very much for the details on Skada Purana and Kanthapuranam. It is quite valuable. You might have spent lot of time and efforts on researching on such things. MURUGA SARANAM With Best Regards Meyyappan S dhandapani , Patrick Harrigan <editor@m...> wrote: > Dear Satish and members, > > The Skanda Purana has been translated into English and published as part of > the Sacred Books of India. However, the original Skanda Purana is in > Sanskrit, not Tamil. Satish is probably not asking about the Sanskrit > Skanda Purana (which is not about Skanda, incidentally, but is an > encyclopedia of mythology dedicated to Skanda), but about the Tamil classic > Kantap Puranam by Kachchiappar (13th-14th Cent. C.E.) based upon the much > older Skanda Purana. > > The Kantap Puranam is much shorter than the Skanda Purana (which is > surpassed in terms of length only by the Mahabharata), and is an amalgam of > the Northern (Sanskritic) and Southern (Tamil) literary and oral traditions > surrounding the composite god Skanda-Murugan. For instance, the episode > about Valli and Murugan does not appear in the Northern tradition at all, > and even the Kantap Puranam reflects this in that the Valli-Murugan romance > is tacked on at the end almost as an afterthought (which, however, does not > preclude its having originated from the very oldest stata of Tamil oral and > literary tradition). There are other important differences, too. > Kachchiappar takes episodes and chief antagonists from both the Sanskrit > and Tamil traditions and presents them all together as 'brothers' with > Soora Pathuman as the eldest and chief. This innovation was found nowhere > in either the earlier Tamil or Sanskrit traditions. > > The point here is, there is a Skanda Purana in Sanskrit, the prestigious > language of the North, and there is a Kantap Puranam in Tamil, the > classical language of the South. But the two are not the same. In fact, > they are quite different. Skanda in the Northern tradition is an austere > bachelor who never marries at all, ever, while the Kanda-Muruga of the > Southern tradition has not one female consort, but two (neither of whom are > known or mentioned in the Northern tradition). Kaumara devotees (most of > whom speak Tamil and almost none of whom read Sanskrit) tend to wrongly > assume that the two puranas are merely two versions of the same purana, > which they are not. > > The Murugan Bhakti site has begun to publish that portion of the Skanda > Purana that deals with the birth and career of god Skanda (starting with > Chapter 21: " Parvati's Penance " ). This translation of the (Sanskrit) Skanda > Purana was translated and annotated by Dr. G.V. Tagare (Delhi: Motilal > Banarsidass Publishers Ltd). Again, only the initial chapter has been > published (line for line, verse for verse) online to date at: > > http://murugan.org/texts/skanda-purana-chapt21.htm > > The same site is also undertaking to publish a condensed English rendition > of the Kantap Puranam, but to date only the very first episode has been > published online at: > > http://murugan.org/saivaneethi/kanda-puranam-1.htm > > There is also a highly condensed pictorial summary of the Kantap Puranam in > 18 pages on the same site that may be found at: > > http://murugan.org/gallery/kanda_puranam/index.htm > > Eventually the entire relevant (i.e. concerning Skanda-Murugan) sections of > the Skanda Purana and Kandap Puranam may be published in their entirety. > But it is a huge job. Please be patient and watch for more chapters to come > out. > > yours as ever, in service > > Patrick Harrigan > Editor > Murugan Bhakti > www.murugan.org > > At 04:29 PM 10/8/2004, you wrote: > >Dear members, > > > >Can any one give information, where can i get skanda purana in english. > > > > > >With Warm Regards, > >Satish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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