Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 murugan thunai,, muruga protect all our bhaktas, as u protecting me, anyone can tell me about sri devaraya swamigal(any link),,,writer of skanda shasti kavasam,,,i recite kavasam daily ,,its realy change my life,,,its true,,,kanthan kall adi ninaithal kanaveliyum kaikodupan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 MURUGA SARANAM I can translate it from the book of Six Kavasams I have which was printed in 1973. It is in fact a brief life history of Thevaraaya Swamigal. There is a place called " Vallur " In Tamil Nadu which has many learned people who are scholars in Tamil. There is a person called Mr. Veerasami Pillai who came in the Tradition of " Karuneega Velaalas " who use to do the job of accounting. This gentleman was also the Accountantant of that town and is also a respected person with wealth and fame. This great person did not have any off springs for a long time after which he was blessed with a beatiful male baby. The father named the child as Thevaraasan (also could be called as Thevaraayan or Devaraasan or Devarajan meaning King of Devas who is none other than Indra) as he was rivaling Indra in elegance. Thevaraayan went on to learn all the arts and went to Bangalore when he was Twenty. There he established Business and was earning huge wealth. During that period The Maha Vidwan of Trisirapuram Mr. Meenakshi Sundaram Pillai came to Bangalore. When Thevaraasan came to know of his knowledge in Tamil Language, he invited the scolar to come and stay at his place. At that time many Tamil people in Bangalore approached Mr. Pillai and learnt Tamil Literature. Many Scholars of Tamil in Bangalore used to get doubts cleared from Mr. Pillai. At this time Thevaraasan expressed his ambition to learn Tamil Literature to Maha Vidvan Pillai. Vidwan, who has generously gave his Tamil Knowledge to everyone without any anticipation was happy in teaching Thevarasan Tamil Literature. From that day he started teaching the best of the Tamil Literature. Thevaraasan was amazed at the Vidvan Pillai's involvement in Tamil Language when he saw him all his time, other than teaching, in writing new poems and literature. This made him (Thevarasan) aspire also to write his poems. When he expressed his desire to his teacher he started teaching him the grammer for poems (Seyyul IlakkaNam) which is known as " Yaaparungalak Kaarikai " . There is a proverb which says that It is better to beat the " pErikai " (which is beating of a drum usually to announce war or victory or messages) and earn bread and butter instead of learning Karikai which is very very difficult. But Thevaraasan started to write his poems only after learning Karikai and he use to get them corrected them from the teacher Vidvan Pilla. This way, within the short time of stay at Bangalore of Mr. Pillai, he wrote two great epics Kuselo Bakkiyaanam, Suutha Sangithai and got them corrected with the great assistance of Mr. Pillai. Mr. Pillai who was very happy at it, wrote the preface and introduction himself and appreciated him. In return to the great knowledge Vidvan Mr. Pillai gave him, when he started back to Trisirapuram, Thevaraasan gave him 5000 (five thousand) white gold coinsand beatiful silk robes and got his blessings. Mr. Pillai who is not used to receive such huge gift was very happy and blessed him from the bottom of his heart and went back. Once Mr. Thevaraasn got unbearable pain in his stomach which was not curable by any medicinal system. He realised that it is something like thge stomach ache that affected The Saiva Acharyas Mr. Thirunaavukkarasar and Pakazik Kuuthar which was curable *only* by the grace of God. At this point Valluur Thevaraasan decided to take Darshan of Senthil Murukan so that at least with His grace he can get it cured. It was in fact the first day of Shashti. When reached in front of the merciful Lord his diseease started subsiding slowly. Thevaraasan was melted at the boundless grace of The Great Lord and the tears of happiness were running down uncontrollably from his eyes and he started singing the KAVASAMs. He sang one Kavasam every day about each padai veedu and during the Shashti Festival of Six Days he completed singing the Six Kavasams and obtained His Divine Grace. After getting rid of the dissease that was troubling him for years with the grace of Lord Murugan, he took up the " Kallaadai " and was known from that time as Thevaraaya Swamigal " . Kallaadai literally means a dress of stone but could have other meaning in Tamil. I guess it may be referring to Kavi or a saffaron Dress which is worn by those who renounce the world and take up spiritual life. The Six Kavasams are really powerful and were recited 36 times every day by Pamban Swamigal. I have heard many many people feeling a positive difference after reciting it. It is more and more powerful usually when it is recited during difficulties. Because it is only the trials and tribulations that are capable of melting our heart and enabling us to sing the Kavasams with more love and devotion. The more involvement the more we are able to feel His Grace. Probably it could be that it is for the benefit of everyone of us Lord Murugan would have given the Stomach Dissease to Thevaraaya Swamigal. Many of the verses in the Kavasams are nothing but the revealations of the Universal Master. In the Fifth Kavasam (Kundru Thoraadum Kumaran) one can find the description similar to the Viswaruupa Darisanam or the full manifestation of the Lord. His beauty and rupam and his tweleve arms and His grace are all described in vivid words and how all the deities and demi gods are revering him. The Sura samharam and blessing of devotees is also described in great details. It is good recite to get relief not only from diseases and from evil spirits but also to learn the highest Truth and get delivered. May All Glories be to The Lord Of The Universe Muruganukku Arohara MURUGA SARANAM With Best Regards Meyyappan S On 10/14/05, vn <vanimanair wrote: > murugan thunai,, > muruga protect all our bhaktas, as u protecting me, > > anyone can tell me about sri devaraya swamigal(any link),,,writer of > skanda shasti kavasam,,,i recite kavasam daily ,,its realy change my > life,,,its true,,,kanthan kall adi ninaithal kanaveliyum kaikodupan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 My deep gratitude for your detailed and sincere narration. Very few people have such commitment. And few have the ability to put across the message so clearly. I have learnt more after reading your narration. I have heard the kavacham and feel very very inspired whenever I hear it. Thank you once again. patricia --- S Meyyappan <smeyyappan wrote: > MURUGA SARANAM > > I can translate it from the book of Six Kavasams I > have which was > printed in 1973. It is in fact a brief life history > of Thevaraaya > Swamigal. > > There is a place called " Vallur " In Tamil Nadu which > has many learned > people who are scholars in Tamil. There is a person > called Mr. > Veerasami Pillai who came in the Tradition of > " Karuneega Velaalas " who > use to do the job of accounting. This gentleman was > also the > Accountantant of that town and is also a respected > person with wealth > and fame. > > This great person did not have any off springs for a > long time after > which he was blessed with a beatiful male baby. The > father named the > child as Thevaraasan (also could be called as > Thevaraayan or > Devaraasan or Devarajan meaning King of Devas who is > none other than > Indra) as he was rivaling Indra in elegance. > Thevaraayan went on to > learn all the arts and went to Bangalore when he was > Twenty. There he > established Business and was earning huge wealth. > > During that period The Maha Vidwan of Trisirapuram > Mr. Meenakshi > Sundaram Pillai came to Bangalore. When Thevaraasan > came to know of > his knowledge in Tamil Language, he invited the > scolar to come and > stay at his place. At that time many Tamil people in > Bangalore > approached Mr. Pillai and learnt Tamil Literature. > Many Scholars of > Tamil in Bangalore used to get doubts cleared from > Mr. Pillai. > > At this time Thevaraasan expressed his ambition to > learn Tamil > Literature to Maha Vidvan Pillai. Vidwan, who has > generously gave his > Tamil Knowledge to everyone without any anticipation > was happy in > teaching Thevarasan Tamil Literature. From that day > he started > teaching the best of the Tamil Literature. > Thevaraasan was amazed at > the Vidvan Pillai's involvement in Tamil Language > when he saw him all > his time, other than teaching, in writing new poems > and literature. > This made him (Thevarasan) aspire also to write his > poems. When he > expressed his desire to his teacher he started > teaching him the > grammer for poems (Seyyul IlakkaNam) which is known > as " Yaaparungalak > Kaarikai " . There is a proverb which says that It is > better to beat the > " pErikai " (which is beating of a drum usually to > announce war or > victory or messages) and earn bread and butter > instead of learning > Karikai which is very very difficult. But > Thevaraasan started to write > his poems only after learning Karikai and he use to > get them corrected > them from the teacher Vidvan Pilla. > > This way, within the short time of stay at Bangalore > of Mr. Pillai, he > wrote two great epics Kuselo Bakkiyaanam, Suutha > Sangithai and got > them corrected with the great assistance of Mr. > Pillai. Mr. Pillai who > was very happy at it, wrote the preface and > introduction himself and > appreciated him. > > In return to the great knowledge Vidvan Mr. Pillai > gave him, when he > started back to Trisirapuram, Thevaraasan gave him > 5000 (five > thousand) white gold coinsand beatiful silk robes > and got his > blessings. Mr. Pillai who is not used to receive > such huge gift was > very happy and blessed him from the bottom of his > heart and went back. > > Once Mr. Thevaraasn got unbearable pain in his > stomach which was not > curable by any medicinal system. He realised that it > is something like > thge stomach ache that affected The Saiva Acharyas > Mr. > Thirunaavukkarasar and Pakazik Kuuthar which was > curable *only* by the > grace of God. > > At this point Valluur Thevaraasan decided to take > Darshan of Senthil > Murukan so that at least with His grace he can get > it cured. It was in > fact the first day of Shashti. When reached in front > of the merciful > Lord his diseease started subsiding slowly. > Thevaraasan was melted at > the boundless grace of The Great Lord and the tears > of happiness were > running down uncontrollably from his eyes and he > started singing the > KAVASAMs. He sang one Kavasam every day about each > padai veedu and > during the Shashti Festival of Six Days he completed > singing the Six > Kavasams and obtained His Divine Grace. After > getting rid of the > dissease that was troubling him for years with the > grace of Lord > Murugan, he took up the " Kallaadai " and was known > from that time as > Thevaraaya Swamigal " . Kallaadai literally means a > dress of stone but > could have other meaning in Tamil. I guess it may be > referring to Kavi > or a saffaron Dress which is worn by those who > renounce the world and > take up spiritual life. > > The Six Kavasams are really powerful and were > recited 36 times every > day by Pamban Swamigal. I have heard many many > people feeling a > positive difference after reciting it. It is more > and more powerful > usually when it is recited during difficulties. > Because it is only the > trials and tribulations that are capable of melting > our heart and > enabling us to sing the Kavasams with more love and > devotion. The more > involvement the more we are able to feel His Grace. > Probably it could > be that it is for the benefit of everyone of us Lord > Murugan would > have given the Stomach Dissease to Thevaraaya > Swamigal. > > Many of the verses in the Kavasams are nothing but > the revealations of > the Universal Master. In the Fifth Kavasam (Kundru > Thoraadum Kumaran) > one can find the description similar to the > Viswaruupa Darisanam or > the full manifestation of the Lord. His beauty and > rupam and his > tweleve arms and His grace are all described in > vivid words and how > all the deities and demi gods are revering him. The > Sura samharam and > blessing of devotees is also described in great > details. It is good > recite to get relief not only from diseases and from > evil spirits but > also to learn the highest Truth and get delivered. > > May All Glories be to The Lord Of The Universe > > Muruganukku Arohara > > MURUGA SARANAM > > With Best Regards > Meyyappan S > > > On 10/14/05, vn <vanimanair wrote: > > murugan thunai,, > > muruga protect all our bhaktas, as u protecting > me, > > > > anyone can tell me about sri devaraya swamigal(any > link),,,writer of > > skanda shasti kavasam,,,i recite kavasam daily > ,,its realy change my > > life,,,its true,,,kanthan kall adi ninaithal > kanaveliyum kaikodupan > Start your day with - Make it your home page! http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Dear Meyyappan, Can you cite the name of the book u have? I am not doubting ur article but i vaguely remember the time of devaraya swamigal atleast 300 years from now. Thank you once again. Samanurith dhandapani , Patricia Jay <patriciajay2000> wrote: > > My deep gratitude for your detailed and sincere > narration. Very few people have such commitment. And > few have the ability to put across the message so > clearly. > > I have learnt more after reading your narration. I > have heard the kavacham and feel very very inspired > whenever I hear it. > > Thank you once again. > > patricia > > --- S Meyyappan <smeyyappan@g...> wrote: > > > MURUGA SARANAM > > > > I can translate it from the book of Six Kavasams I > > have which was > > printed in 1973. It is in fact a brief life history > > of Thevaraaya > > Swamigal. > > > > There is a place called " Vallur " In Tamil Nadu which > > has many learned > > people who are scholars in Tamil. There is a person > > called Mr. > > Veerasami Pillai who came in the Tradition of > > " Karuneega Velaalas " who > > use to do the job of accounting. This gentleman was > > also the > > Accountantant of that town and is also a respected > > person with wealth > > and fame. > > > > This great person did not have any off springs for a > > long time after > > which he was blessed with a beatiful male baby. The > > father named the > > child as Thevaraasan (also could be called as > > Thevaraayan or > > Devaraasan or Devarajan meaning King of Devas who is > > none other than > > Indra) as he was rivaling Indra in elegance. > > Thevaraayan went on to > > learn all the arts and went to Bangalore when he was > > Twenty. There he > > established Business and was earning huge wealth. > > > > During that period The Maha Vidwan of Trisirapuram > > Mr. Meenakshi > > Sundaram Pillai came to Bangalore. When Thevaraasan > > came to know of > > his knowledge in Tamil Language, he invited the > > scolar to come and > > stay at his place. At that time many Tamil people in > > Bangalore > > approached Mr. Pillai and learnt Tamil Literature. > > Many Scholars of > > Tamil in Bangalore used to get doubts cleared from > > Mr. Pillai. > > > > At this time Thevaraasan expressed his ambition to > > learn Tamil > > Literature to Maha Vidvan Pillai. Vidwan, who has > > generously gave his > > Tamil Knowledge to everyone without any anticipation > > was happy in > > teaching Thevarasan Tamil Literature. From that day > > he started > > teaching the best of the Tamil Literature. > > Thevaraasan was amazed at > > the Vidvan Pillai's involvement in Tamil Language > > when he saw him all > > his time, other than teaching, in writing new poems > > and literature. > > This made him (Thevarasan) aspire also to write his > > poems. When he > > expressed his desire to his teacher he started > > teaching him the > > grammer for poems (Seyyul IlakkaNam) which is known > > as " Yaaparungalak > > Kaarikai " . There is a proverb which says that It is > > better to beat the > > " pErikai " (which is beating of a drum usually to > > announce war or > > victory or messages) and earn bread and butter > > instead of learning > > Karikai which is very very difficult. But > > Thevaraasan started to write > > his poems only after learning Karikai and he use to > > get them corrected > > them from the teacher Vidvan Pilla. > > > > This way, within the short time of stay at Bangalore > > of Mr. Pillai, he > > wrote two great epics Kuselo Bakkiyaanam, Suutha > > Sangithai and got > > them corrected with the great assistance of Mr. > > Pillai. Mr. Pillai who > > was very happy at it, wrote the preface and > > introduction himself and > > appreciated him. > > > > In return to the great knowledge Vidvan Mr. Pillai > > gave him, when he > > started back to Trisirapuram, Thevaraasan gave him > > 5000 (five > > thousand) white gold coinsand beatiful silk robes > > and got his > > blessings. Mr. Pillai who is not used to receive > > such huge gift was > > very happy and blessed him from the bottom of his > > heart and went back. > > > > Once Mr. Thevaraasn got unbearable pain in his > > stomach which was not > > curable by any medicinal system. He realised that it > > is something like > > thge stomach ache that affected The Saiva Acharyas > > Mr. > > Thirunaavukkarasar and Pakazik Kuuthar which was > > curable *only* by the > > grace of God. > > > > At this point Valluur Thevaraasan decided to take > > Darshan of Senthil > > Murukan so that at least with His grace he can get > > it cured. It was in > > fact the first day of Shashti. When reached in front > > of the merciful > > Lord his diseease started subsiding slowly. > > Thevaraasan was melted at > > the boundless grace of The Great Lord and the tears > > of happiness were > > running down uncontrollably from his eyes and he > > started singing the > > KAVASAMs. He sang one Kavasam every day about each > > padai veedu and > > during the Shashti Festival of Six Days he completed > > singing the Six > > Kavasams and obtained His Divine Grace. After > > getting rid of the > > dissease that was troubling him for years with the > > grace of Lord > > Murugan, he took up the " Kallaadai " and was known > > from that time as > > Thevaraaya Swamigal " . Kallaadai literally means a > > dress of stone but > > could have other meaning in Tamil. I guess it may be > > referring to Kavi > > or a saffaron Dress which is worn by those who > > renounce the world and > > take up spiritual life. > > > > The Six Kavasams are really powerful and were > > recited 36 times every > > day by Pamban Swamigal. I have heard many many > > people feeling a > > positive difference after reciting it. It is more > > and more powerful > > usually when it is recited during difficulties. > > Because it is only the > > trials and tribulations that are capable of melting > > our heart and > > enabling us to sing the Kavasams with more love and > > devotion. The more > > involvement the more we are able to feel His Grace. > > Probably it could > > be that it is for the benefit of everyone of us Lord > > Murugan would > > have given the Stomach Dissease to Thevaraaya > > Swamigal. > > > > Many of the verses in the Kavasams are nothing but > > the revealations of > > the Universal Master. In the Fifth Kavasam (Kundru > > Thoraadum Kumaran) > > one can find the description similar to the > > Viswaruupa Darisanam or > > the full manifestation of the Lord. His beauty and > > rupam and his > > tweleve arms and His grace are all described in > > vivid words and how > > all the deities and demi gods are revering him. The > > Sura samharam and > > blessing of devotees is also described in great > > details. It is good > > recite to get relief not only from diseases and from > > evil spirits but > > also to learn the highest Truth and get delivered. > > > > May All Glories be to The Lord Of The Universe > > > > Muruganukku Arohara > > > > MURUGA SARANAM > > > > With Best Regards > > Meyyappan S > > > > > > On 10/14/05, vn <vanimanair> wrote: > > > murugan thunai,, > > > muruga protect all our bhaktas, as u protecting > > me, > > > > > > anyone can tell me about sri devaraya swamigal(any > > link),,,writer of > > > skanda shasti kavasam,,,i recite kavasam daily > > ,,its realy change my > > > life,,,its true,,,kanthan kall adi ninaithal > > kanaveliyum kaikodupan > > > > > > > > Start your day with - Make it your home page! > http://www./r/hs > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 MURUGA SARANAM Dear Samanurith.. The book I have is in fact a pocket sized book very small in size, titled only as " Kanthar Shashti Kavasm " , " Thevaraaya Swamigal Aruliyathu " . With a very small logo of Murugan with Lance and Peacock on the top, it was printed by one Ganapathy Shasthirigal in 1973. It is a type of small sized stothra book we see in India that does not have details of publishers, edition and author etc.. which are available in bigger sized books. The details of Thevaraya swamigal is only given as a preface to the six Kavasams without any mention of the source of the information. I think we may not able to guess his period with this information. I shall post if I get it from any other source. But he must be definitely before the period of Pamban Swamigal as it is specified in his histiry that he use to read all the six kavasams thirty six times a day. MURUGA SARANAM Thanks and Best Regards Meyyappan S On 10/18/05, samanurith <samanurith wrote: > Dear Meyyappan, > Can you cite the name of the book u have? I am not doubting ur > article but i vaguely remember the time of devaraya swamigal atleast > 300 years from now. > Thank you once again. > Samanurith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 - Not sure whether this has been postedbefore. A write up/article on Devaraya SwamigaL's contribution to Murukanism. http://murugan.org/research/sivagami.htm Raji -- In dhandapani , S Meyyappan <smeyyappan@g...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 MURUGA SARANAM That was a good treat for the devotees of Murugan. The verses of Kavasam has always given me the feeling that it cannot be simple imaginations or creations of a poet but divine revealations. The verses of the Kavasam prove that they are not simply not the brainchild of a Tamil scholar but of a devotee who is blessed with visualising them with his eyes of knowledge (jnanak kan). When recited with devotion and faith the words derive their energy from the divine and the devotee is able to feel the grace of God. MURUGA SARANAM With Best Regards Meyyappan S On 10/22/05, Raji Iyer <kavayyaar wrote: > - > > Not sure whether this has been postedbefore. A write up/article on > Devaraya SwamigaL's contribution to Murukanism. > http://murugan.org/research/sivagami.htm > Raji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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