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Dear Meyyapan,I have heard about this fact before, but this story explained it beyond doubt. But for getting a guru we need to chant some mantras. If you are anyone in this forum knows about such mantra please let me know.ThanksregardsDhinoth B.S Meyyappan <smeyyappan wrote: MURUGA SARANAM 10th Sep 2006 Spiritual Stories: Post #7 "INITIATION" Dear Members.. This mail reaching your computer screens this Sunday is one of the smallest but the most effective one of the series of stories by Bhagwan Ramana Maharishi. It says that one needs to recite a mantra only after being initiated by a Guru. For long I use to believe that you can pick up any mantra and recite as long as you are able to read the language. I have even copied many small and long verses of mantras to people without knowing this fact. I came to know only much later that it is not correct. I am not sure, but it is said that any mantra that ends with Namaha or containing certain syllables need to be recited or chanted only after being initiated by a qualified Guru. I would request the learned members of this group to explain it and also tell us why it is so. The story says the fact. But we may need to understand it only by experiencing it ourselves when we get such a Guru I think. Let us seek the blessings of Skandagurunathan who is also the Guru of Lord Siva at Thiru Yeragam (Swami Malai). Until we get His blessings, let us be happy that we are free to sing His glories in any other form without any hesitation and enjoy His beauty. May All Glories be to Swami Natha Swamy MURUGA SARANAM With Best Regards Meyyappan S **** The Story begins here INITIATION A devotee asked, "Can anyone get any benefit by repeating sacred syllables ( mantras ) picked up casually?" Sri Bhagavan replied, "No. He must be competent and initiated in such mantras ." To illustrate this he told the following

story. A KING VISITED his minister in his residence. There he was told that the minister was engaged in repetition of sacred syllables ( japa ). The king waited for him and, on meeting him, asked what the japa was. The minister said that it was the holiest of all, Gayatri . The king desired to be initiated by the minister but the minister confessed his inability to initiate him. Therefore the king learned it from someone else, and meeting the minister later he repeated the Gayatri and wanted to know if it was right. The minister said that the mantra was correct, but it was not proper for him to say it. When pressed for an explanation the minister called to a page (*) close by and ordered him to take hold of the king. The order was not obeyed. The order was often repeated, and still not obeyed. The king flew into a rage

and ordered the same man to hold the minister, and it was immediately done. The minister laughed and said that the incident was the explanation required by the king. "How?" asked the king. The minister replied, "The order was the same and the executor also, but the authority was different. When I ordered, the effect was nil whereas, when you ordered, there was immediate effect. Similarly with mantras. " Courtesy – NTC's American English Learner's Dictionary (*)Page - Someone who runs errands (a small task that somone goes to some place and do) and delivers messages, especially in a hotel, library or legislatture Ends ********

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Dear Reader, Yes, you need initiation from a Guru. But this is only if you're very formally into rigorous spiritual pursuit. Many members of this group are living in the material world, pursuing material goals, having material commitments and responsibilities. You cannot say they're formally on the defined spiritual path. Instead, we're trying to develop our own sprituality even while living in the material world. So do we need a mantra initiated by Guru? There are some very universal praises of God that we can chant, for which we do not need initiation. Pure devotion is sufficient. Eg. Hare Rame Hare Krishna, Sri Ram Jai Ram Jai Jai Ram, Vishnu Sahasrnaamam. (I'm sure there are many more). If you chant them out of sheer devotion (just because its good to chant them), you will get amazing results. Hello, senior and more learned members. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Patricia Suneela Dhinoth <suni_dk wrote: Dear Meyyapan,I have heard about this fact before, but this story explained it beyond doubt. But for getting a guru we need to chant some mantras. If you are anyone in this forum knows about such mantra please let me know.ThanksregardsDhinoth B.S Meyyappan

<smeyyappan > wrote: MURUGA SARANAM 10th Sep 2006 Spiritual Stories: Post #7 "INITIATION" Dear Members.. This mail reaching your computer screens this Sunday is one of the smallest but the most effective one of the series of stories by Bhagwan Ramana Maharishi. It says that one

needs to recite a mantra only after being initiated by a Guru. For long I use to believe that you can pick up any mantra and recite as long as you are able to read the language. I have even copied many small and long verses of mantras to people without knowing this fact. I came to know only much later that it is not correct. I am not sure, but it is said that any mantra that ends with Namaha or containing certain syllables need to be recited or chanted only after being initiated by a qualified Guru. I would request the learned members of this group to explain it and also tell us why it is so. The story says the fact. But we may need to understand it only by experiencing it ourselves when we get such a Guru I think. Let us seek the blessings of Skandagurunathan who is also the Guru of Lord Siva at Thiru Yeragam (Swami Malai). Until we get His blessings, let us be happy that we are free to sing His glories in any other form without any hesitation and enjoy His beauty. May All Glories be to Swami Natha Swamy MURUGA SARANAM With Best Regards Meyyappan S **** The Story begins here INITIATION A devotee asked, "Can anyone get any benefit by repeating sacred syllables ( mantras ) picked up casually?" Sri Bhagavan replied, "No. He must be competent and initiated in such mantras ." To illustrate this he told the following story. A KING VISITED his minister in his residence. There he was told that the minister was engaged in repetition of sacred syllables ( japa ). The king waited for him and, on meeting him, asked what the japa was. The minister said that it was the holiest of all, Gayatri . The king desired to be initiated by the minister but the minister confessed his inability to initiate him. Therefore the king learned it from someone else, and meeting the minister later he repeated the Gayatri and wanted to know if it was right. The minister said that the mantra was correct, but it was not proper

for him to say it. When pressed for an explanation the minister called to a page (*) close by and ordered him to take hold of the king. The order was not obeyed. The order was often repeated, and still not obeyed. The king flew into a rage and ordered the same man to hold the minister, and it was immediately done. The minister laughed and said that the incident was the explanation required by the king. "How?" asked the king. The minister replied, "The order was the same and the executor also, but the authority was different. When I ordered, the effect was nil whereas, when you ordered, there was immediate effect. Similarly with mantras. " Courtesy – NTC's American English Learner's Dictionary (*)Page - Someone who runs errands (a small task that somone goes to some place and do) and delivers messages, especially in a hotel, library or legislatture Ends ******** Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail.

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