Guest guest Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Transliteration: vadivum Thanamum manamum guNamum, kudiyum kulamum kudipOkiyavaa adianTham ilaa ayil vEl arasE, midi enR— orupaavi veLipadinE. 19 Meaning: Beauty, wealth, (good) mind, noble qualities, Good lineage and family prestige — all depart, Alas! O King of sharp-Vel, the beginningless and endless One! If poverty, the sinner, manifests itself in anyone. " O King (Lord) with the sharp Vel! O beginningless and endless One! If poverty, the sinner, afflicts a person O what a wonder! His (bodily) beauty, his wealth, his (good) mental condition, his (noble) qualities, his (good) lineage and his family prestige — all leave him! " Detailed Commentary: Poverty — the sinner The apparent meaning of this verse is clear. If poverty takes possession of a man, naturally he loses his bodily beauty for want of sufficient food and other day-to-day needs. The going away of his wealth is, of course, evident, because what is poverty otherwise? Due to misery arising out of poverty, one's mental state is always disturbed and he loses his peace of mind; his good qualities such as charitable nature, serviceability, etc., find no opportunity for expression. Under stress of poverty, one may even do acts unbecoming of his high lineage and against his family prestige. Therefore, poverty is a sinner that nullifies all that is good in a person — physical, mental, and spiritual. Different types of poverty: Material, Moral, and Spiritual But, the real poverty is moral and spiritual bankruptcy. Moral poverty eats away one's bodily beauty and wealth due to too much sense-indulgence. He is afflicted by terrible diseases which drain away his health and wealth. A morally weak man cannot be strong in mind. His power of will is weak and his mind feeble; his good qualities take leave of him. His inordinate desire for sense gratification impels him to do acts unbecoming of his high birth and family prestige. ....more in skandagurunatha website Courtesy: www.skandagurunatha.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Poverty is positioned for negative karma here. A person can be poor and yet be content and happy. A person can be rich yet longing for more. But how the person conducts himself, be he poor or rich is what really matters. Read song Sema Komala paatha thamari of Thirupugazh (Chendur), the song details what is in essence misery (Midi), Guna Seelam, is quoted there in the song, specifying the pure noble virtue which is needed to be enlightend or atleast evade karma. Noble virtue also means humility, where we offer and accept what ever Lord gives us. http://www.kaumaram.com/thiru/nt0059.html outline of the song, but i suggest reading the Variyar urai, which unfortunately is not online. I was over whelmed when the great teacher explained about the word seelam and its usage in here. Anbudan - Ravi dhandapani , " r_ramasamy " <rramasamy wrote: > > Transliteration: > > vadivum Thanamum manamum guNamum, > kudiyum kulamum kudipOkiyavaa > adianTham ilaa ayil vEl arasE, > midi enR— orupaavi veLipadinE. 19 > > Meaning: > > Beauty, wealth, (good) mind, noble qualities, > Good lineage and family prestige — all depart, Alas! > O King of sharp-Vel, the beginningless and endless One! > If poverty, the sinner, manifests itself in anyone. > > " O King (Lord) with the sharp Vel! O beginningless and endless One! > If poverty, the sinner, afflicts a person O what a wonder! His > (bodily) beauty, his wealth, his (good) mental condition, his > (noble) qualities, his (good) lineage > and his family prestige — all leave him! " > > > Detailed Commentary: > > Poverty — the sinner > The apparent meaning of this verse is clear. If poverty takes > possession of a man, naturally he loses his bodily beauty for want > of sufficient food and other day-to-day needs. The going away of his > wealth is, of course, evident, because what is poverty otherwise? > Due to misery arising out of poverty, one's mental state is always > disturbed and he loses his peace of mind; his good qualities such as > charitable nature, serviceability, etc., find no opportunity for > expression. Under stress of poverty, one may even do acts unbecoming > of his high lineage and against his family prestige. Therefore, > poverty is a sinner that nullifies all that is good in a person — > physical, mental, and spiritual. > > Different types of poverty: Material, Moral, and Spiritual > But, the real poverty is moral and spiritual bankruptcy. Moral > poverty eats away one's bodily beauty and wealth due to too much > sense-indulgence. He is afflicted by terrible diseases which drain > away his health and wealth. A morally weak man cannot be strong in > mind. His power of will is weak and his mind feeble; his good > qualities take leave of him. His inordinate desire for sense > gratification impels him to do acts unbecoming of his high birth and > family prestige. > > ...more in skandagurunatha website > > Courtesy: www.skandagurunatha.org > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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