Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Transliteration: kaaLai— kumarEsan ena— karuthi, thaaLai— paNiya— thavam eythiyavaa paaLai— kuzhal vaLLi paTham paNiyum, vELai— sura bhoopathi mEruvaiyE. 22 Meaning: To meditate on You, O Lord, as 'Kumaresan,' of Youth Permanent, And bow to Your Feet; how did I reach this Tapas great! O Lord, Who bows to the charming Valli's Feet! O Muruga! O Deva-Chief! O Great like the Meru Mount! " O Lord Muruga, the Commander-in-chief of the Devas, the Great One like the Mount Meru, Who bowed to the feet of Valli Devi of beautiful hairs! What a wonder, I have been blessed to attain to that state of austerity (Tapas) as to bow to Thy Lotus-Feet meditating on Thee as Lord Kumaresan of Eternal Youth! " Detailed Commentary: Mount Meru Mount Meru is said to be the greatest mountain on Earth. One cannot imagine its length or breadth, or its greatness. It is regarded as the axis of this earth. So is the Lord, beyond human understanding and description, the support of all. Lord Murugan: destroyer of our lower nature Lord Skanda was the Commander-in-Chief of the army of Devas. He organized their forces, fought against Asura Surapadman and killed him with his entire army. Even so, the Lord organizes the virtuous qualities in His devotees, gives a battle to the terrible Asura egoism and destroys him and his retinue of lust, anger, greed, etc. The destruction of the lower nature in man is necessary in order that one's mind may become tranquil which is a necessary prerequisite for meditation on the Lord. The lower nature, due to its extrovert nature, does not allow the mind to be tranquil and steady. Hence, the need for its destruction. Skanda Puranam: The Legend of Deivayanai and Valli (continued) Lord Murugan bowed to Valli Devi, His divine consort. According to the Tamil scriptures, Lord Skanda has two consorts — Valli and Deivayanai. Valli represents Iccha Sakthi and Deivayanai Kriya Sakthi. Deivayanai was the daughter of Indra, who was troubled by Surapadman. After the Asura was killed by the Lord, in acknowledgment of his indebtedness to Him, Indra gave his daughter Deivayanai in marriage to Lord Skanda. The marriage was conducted with all Vedic rites (Kriyas) in a big assemblage of gods, rishis, and men, at Thirupparankundram in South India. Hence, she is said to represent Kriya Sakthi — the power of Action. But Valli's marriage with the Lord was of a peculiar nature. She loved Lord Murugan intensely and was resolved to marry none but Him. But she did not know where He was and how to attain Him. Yet her love for the Lord was so much that the Lord Himself went in search of her, beseeched her to marry Him, and got her married by stealing her away at dead of night from her home. Thus, Valli is referred to as Iccha Sakthi — the power of will. True meaning of Murugan bowing down to Valli Reference to Valli and the Lord's bowing to her shows that the Lord is ever eager to seek to help His devotees, who often long for Him but know not the means of attaining Him. This shows that if one is sincere and honest in one's seeking, God comes of Himself to the devotee and shows the method of attaining Him. more information in skandagurunatha website Courtesy www.skandagurunatha.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Muruga SaranamDear Members,I think the verse " Valli patham paNiyum " has been interpreted by teh author as Lord Muruga Bowing down to Valli (and hence to devotees who seek Him). But I think it could also mean as " Valli - patham paNiyum Murugan " and not as " Valli patham paNiyum Murugan " . That is Valli who bows down to Lord Muruga. I could be utterly wrong here. But correct me. I was trying to interpret in both ways in the past too and guessed it should be Valli who bows down to Lord Muruga, by assuming the punctuations to separate the phrases. I encountered an exactly similar verse with similar words in Kanthar Anubhuthi or another text. I think other explanations in Tamil also interpret the way I did. I need to refer to them again and confirm this. Muruga SaranamWith best RegardsMeyyappan SOn Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, r_ramasamy <rramasamy wrote: Transliteration: kaaLai— kumarEsan ena— karuthi, thaaLai— paNiya— thavam eythiyavaa paaLai— kuzhal vaLLi paTham paNiyum, vELai— sura bhoopathi mEruvaiyE. 22 Meaning: To meditate on You, O Lord, as 'Kumaresan,' of Youth Permanent, And bow to Your Feet; how did I reach this Tapas great! O Lord, Who bows to the charming Valli's Feet! O Muruga! O Deva-Chief! O Great like the Meru Mount! " O Lord Muruga, the Commander-in-chief of the Devas, the Great One like the Mount Meru, Who bowed to the feet of Valli Devi of beautiful hairs! What a wonder, I have been blessed to attain to that state of austerity (Tapas) as to bow to Thy Lotus-Feet meditating on Thee as Lord Kumaresan of Eternal Youth! " Detailed Commentary: Mount Meru Mount Meru is said to be the greatest mountain on Earth. One cannot imagine its length or breadth, or its greatness. It is regarded as the axis of this earth. So is the Lord, beyond human understanding and description, the support of all. Lord Murugan: destroyer of our lower nature Lord Skanda was the Commander-in-Chief of the army of Devas. He organized their forces, fought against Asura Surapadman and killed him with his entire army. Even so, the Lord organizes the virtuous qualities in His devotees, gives a battle to the terrible Asura egoism and destroys him and his retinue of lust, anger, greed, etc. The destruction of the lower nature in man is necessary in order that one's mind may become tranquil which is a necessary prerequisite for meditation on the Lord. The lower nature, due to its extrovert nature, does not allow the mind to be tranquil and steady. Hence, the need for its destruction. Skanda Puranam: The Legend of Deivayanai and Valli (continued) Lord Murugan bowed to Valli Devi, His divine consort. According to the Tamil scriptures, Lord Skanda has two consorts — Valli and Deivayanai. Valli represents Iccha Sakthi and Deivayanai Kriya Sakthi. Deivayanai was the daughter of Indra, who was troubled by Surapadman. After the Asura was killed by the Lord, in acknowledgment of his indebtedness to Him, Indra gave his daughter Deivayanai in marriage to Lord Skanda. The marriage was conducted with all Vedic rites (Kriyas) in a big assemblage of gods, rishis, and men, at Thirupparankundram in South India. Hence, she is said to represent Kriya Sakthi — the power of Action. But Valli's marriage with the Lord was of a peculiar nature. She loved Lord Murugan intensely and was resolved to marry none but Him. But she did not know where He was and how to attain Him. Yet her love for the Lord was so much that the Lord Himself went in search of her, beseeched her to marry Him, and got her married by stealing her away at dead of night from her home. Thus, Valli is referred to as Iccha Sakthi — the power of will. True meaning of Murugan bowing down to Valli Reference to Valli and the Lord's bowing to her shows that the Lord is ever eager to seek to help His devotees, who often long for Him but know not the means of attaining Him. This shows that if one is sincere and honest in one's seeking, God comes of Himself to the devotee and shows the method of attaining Him. more information in skandagurunatha website Courtesy www.skandagurunatha.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Yes, I agree with Mr Meyappan on this point. I also tend to believe that the verse 22 should be interpreted as Valli who bows to Murugan. I certainly do not mean any ego problem here, as the Lord Himself is devoted to His devotees! But considering that Valli harboured such intense love for Lord Murugan, its logical that she should bow to Him when He manifested before her. 2. Of late, I have seen several greeting cards showing the child Murugan doing "Vanakkam", and I find it very shockingly offensive! We cannot even imagine the great heights to which Murugan belongs. Love and love alone can make Him descend to our level to make us understand Him. And to show this kind of a Supreme Being as folding hands (to the buyer who pays a few currency notes to the seller!!!) is a sacrilege! Just shared my thoughts with like-minded people. Patricia --- On Sun, 7/20/08, S Meyyappan <smeyyappan wrote: S Meyyappan <smeyyappanRe: Kanthar Anubhuthi - verse 22dhandapani Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 4:57 PM Muruga Saranam Dear Members, I think the verse "Valli patham paNiyum" has been interpreted by teh author as Lord Muruga Bowing down to Valli (and hence to devotees who seek Him). But I think it could also mean as "Valli - patham paNiyum Murugan" and not as "Valli patham paNiyum Murugan". That is Valli who bows down to Lord Muruga. I could be utterly wrong here. But correct me. I was trying to interpret in both ways in the past too and guessed it should be Valli who bows down to Lord Muruga, by assuming the punctuations to separate the phrases. I encountered an exactly similar verse with similar words in Kanthar Anubhuthi or another text. I think other explanations in Tamil also interpret the way I did. I need to refer to them again and confirm this. Muruga Saranam With best Regards Meyyappan S On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:19 PM, r_ramasamy <rramasamy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Transliteration:kaaLai— kumarEsan ena— karuthi, thaaLai— paNiya— thavam eythiyavaa paaLai— kuzhal vaLLi paTham paNiyum, vELai— sura bhoopathi mEruvaiyE. 22 Meaning:To meditate on You, O Lord, as 'Kumaresan,' of Youth Permanent, And bow to Your Feet; how did I reach this Tapas great! O Lord, Who bows to the charming Valli's Feet! O Muruga! O Deva-Chief! O Great like the Meru Mount! "O Lord Muruga, the Commander-in- chief of the Devas, the Great One like the Mount Meru, Who bowed to the feet of Valli Devi of beautiful hairs! What a wonder, I have been blessed to attain to that state of austerity (Tapas) as to bow to Thy Lotus-Feet meditating on Thee as Lord Kumaresan of Eternal Youth!" Detailed Commentary:Mount MeruMount Meru is said to be the greatest mountain on Earth. One cannot imagine its length or breadth, or its greatness. It is regarded as the axis of this earth. So is the Lord, beyond human understanding and description, the support of all.Lord Murugan: destroyer of our lower natureLord Skanda was the Commander-in- Chief of the army of Devas. He organized their forces, fought against Asura Surapadman and killed him with his entire army. Even so, the Lord organizes the virtuous qualities in His devotees, gives a battle to the terrible Asura egoism and destroys him and his retinue of lust, anger, greed, etc. The destruction of the lower nature in man is necessary in order that one's mind may become tranquil which is a necessary prerequisite for meditation on the Lord. The lower nature, due to its extrovert nature, does not allow the mind to be tranquil and steady. Hence, the need for its destruction.Skanda Puranam: The Legend of Deivayanai and Valli (continued)Lord Murugan bowed to Valli Devi, His divine consort. According to the Tamil scriptures, Lord Skanda has two consorts — Valli and Deivayanai. Valli represents Iccha Sakthi and Deivayanai Kriya Sakthi. Deivayanai was the daughter of Indra, who was troubled by Surapadman. After the Asura was killed by the Lord, in acknowledgment of his indebtedness to Him, Indra gave his daughter Deivayanai in marriage to Lord Skanda. The marriage was conducted with all Vedic rites (Kriyas) in a big assemblage of gods, rishis, and men, at Thirupparankundram in South India. Hence, she is said to represent Kriya Sakthi — the power of Action. But Valli's marriage with the Lord was of a peculiar nature. She loved Lord Murugan intensely and was resolved to marry none but Him. But she did not know where He was and how to attain Him. Yet her love for the Lord was so much that the Lord Himself went in search of her, beseeched her to marry Him, and got her married by stealing her away at dead of night from her home. Thus, Valli is referred to as Iccha Sakthi — the power of will.True meaning of Murugan bowing down to ValliReference to Valli and the Lord's bowing to her shows that the Lord is ever eager to seek to help His devotees, who often long for Him but know not the means of attaining Him. This shows that if one is sincere and honest in one's seeking, God comes of Himself to the devotee and shows the method of attaining Him.more information in skandagurunatha websiteCourtesy www.skandagurunatha .org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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