Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hare Krishna! All glories to Srila Prabhupada and all Vaisnavas. Please accept my humble obeisances and blessings. I pray that this meets you well and in the service/mercy of Sri Guru and Sri Gauranga. My Dearest Sajeev Prabhuji; Please forgive me, but I must comment on your post that you made to Krishna Bhagavan Group concerning your revelations of 10 January 2005. While it is a wonderful thing that we receive sometimes divine revelations, we must indeed be cautious in our revealings of them. While I am greatly humbled that you have completed parikrama, and I do not minimize the task that you have undertaken, your personal attack and comments upon other Maths was indeed short sighted. While we are to indeed warned to beware of the philosophies of the Mayavadi, no where are we instructed to comment against them. In your post you imply that Srila Sankaracharya of Kanchi Kamakotipeetam had the ability and information that could have saved the lives of hundreds of thousands from the devistating Tsunami, and that he failed to make this information known to all. Further in your post you give praise to Srila Prabhupada, giving the indication that his followers also had this information, but the results are that if they did, they failed to inform the people of the impending disaster. Then you go on to make comment concerning Lord Shiva Himself. Please forgive me, but your post reads as an accusation against everyone having knowledge of the Tsunami, yet in their callous selfishness retained this information to themselves and allowing these poor souls to suffer a cruel death without merit. We as Vaisnavas are to speak against no one, not even the most evil of sinners. There are strict guidlines by which we may speak against another devotee of the Lord. It is not for us to say who is and who is not a devotee of the Lord. Many factors come into play by which one comes to the pure knowledge of the Lord, karma being one of them. Of all the sins one may commit, offense against a devotee is the most serious, one that the Lord Himself will not forgive, because the offense is not against Him, but against the devotee. While we are to be cautious of impersonalist philosophies, we are to also respect the devotee. Sri Krishna Caitanya Himself took initiation from Kesava Bharati who was a Mayavadi Sannyasi. In the Sri Caitanya Mangala, Srila Locana Das Thakura writes that Sri Caitanya Himself discribes Kesava Bharati as " upon seeing the illustrious sannyasi, Gauanga stood to greet him and offered respects. Tears fell from the Lord's eyes when He saw that PURE AND EFFULGENT SANNYASI. " (pg 191 Visvambhara meets Kesava Bharti) Later in the chapter, Srila Kesava Bharati states " You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself! " This statement alone attests to Srila Kesava Bharati's purity and devotion. While Mayavadi devotees are servants of Lord Shiva, we are warned in the Caitanya Bhagavata that we are not to speak against them. Lord Shiva is Sri Krishna's greatest servant. When we read the literatures concerning the life of Sri Caitanya Himself, we will see that he has great respect for both Lord Shiva and His devotees. As a devotee of Srila Prabhuapda, you must realize that there are many instances in the Srimad Bhagavatam where Lord Shiva himself glorifies Sri Krishna. Even according to Srila Prabhupada's works, Lord Shiva is considered as the foremost devotee of Sri Krishna. " Vaishnavanam Yatha Shambhu " . As ultimately followers of the cult of Sri Krishna Caitanya, we are to honor, respect and glorify Lord Shiva, because He has the abilitites to assist us in our devotional service and surrender unto the lotus feet of the Lord. Are you not aware of the writings concerning Sri Caitanya's advent and associates? " rudro 'vatirya mad-bhaktim, srimad-advaita-samjnakah; grahiyisyati lokams ca, yatnat karunikah prabhuha " . " Lord Shiva will incarnate as My great devotee and His name will be Shrimad Advaita Acharya. Due to His unlimited compassion, He will give pure bhakti to each and everyone with great endeavour. " This statement alone by Sri Krishna Caitanya explains much. It is through the chanting of the Pancha Tattva that we sing the name of Lord Shiva Himself prior to Kirtana and chanting the Holy Names. We must be extremely cautious in whom we speak against. It is not for us to determine, but the Lord alone. We are to serve all devotees of the Lord, not making decisions or determinations concerning external appearances. We are taught by Srila Prabhupada that " we are not these bodies " , yet his very own devotees continue to judge according to bodily concept. If we are to mature and advance in our spiritual journey, we must put aside such notions and cling ever tightly to the chanting of the Holy Names. If we would, as Vaisnavas, stop making judgements and cass remarks, and be merciful to all living entities, as we are commanded to do, this world would ring with the Holy Names continually. We need to follow Srila Prabhupada's example and give even the Mayavadi our obeisances and respects. He did not make differences as to who was and who was not a devotee, but saw Sri Krishna in all living beings. This is what personally drew me to him, his unconditional love. While we can argue without end over this matter, the most important aspect is that we are not to commit offense to any living entity. We are not to distress anyone. Yes we have been sternly warned concerning Mayavadi philosophy and through Vaisnava scripture not to have intimate association with impersonalist, but no where is it written that we are to disrespect anyone in any manner. Love does not work in this way. How are we to determine how the Lord will use us? How do we know that we will not be His instrument in bringing someone to the merciful lotus feet of the Lord? If we throw rocks, we need to ensure that our own house is not made of glass. The Lord is not pleased with us when we cause distress, and if the individual we have attacked is His pure devotee, (whether we determine they are devotees or not does not matter), the Lord Himself will not hesitate to protect them. Your ending statement is most damaging to your post. You write " Submitted humbly at the lotus feet of the Vaisnavas..by " Bluehorse " an aspiring devotee... " You give the impression that you are not an initiated devotee of any Institution or Matha. This is most damaging concerning that your implication is from a " non-devotee " . If this is indeed correct, how do you expect the Vaisnava community to accept your " revelation " as pure and exact? This statement throws many questions into your post concerning the validity of your character. Please clarify this position. If you are not an intiated devotee, I would humbly suggest that you search for Guru and gain proper training. Book learning is fine, but you cannot learn etiquette from a book, nor can you derive respect. When we only read, and have little pure association, especially the association of mature advanced devotees, much is left to our own interpretation. This is a most dangerous position. Please accept the rebuke that has come upon you from the community. You have offended some in the group by your post. A true Vaisnava would seek their forgiveness. It is a terrible thing to insult another's Guru, and Balajih Prabhu is correct in his rebuke to you. You should humble yourself and ask his forgiveness. He approached you in a most submissive manner, although what he had to state to you is indeed unpleasant. But, you must realize that he is bound by etiquette to defend his Gurumaharaj. You should return his behavior in kind, submissively and humbly. This is the sign of a true devotee. If I myself have offended you or anyother in this fine Group, I plead your forgiveness with millions of prostrations. It is not my intent to offend, but to teach. Aparadha is not only for the Vaisnava, but all devotees of the Lord. This is a most serious sin, one that we all must be mindful of. Your eternal servant; Nitaipada Maharaja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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