Meat Eater (Mlecha)

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Hare Krishna ! His Grace Sankarshan Das Adhikari clarifies : Question: It is said that, if we eat meat, we may be eaten by the same animal in our next life. Can you be specific as to where these conclusions are drawn from (with quotes from the Gita)?When an animal is killed, who suffers the most...the person who killed the animal or the person who eats the carcass?Also does that Bible and

Quran allow its followers to consume meat?ThanksRavin Answer: The Bhagavad-gita states that in whatever state of being we quit our body that state we will attain without fail :yam yam vapi smaran bhavamtyajaty ante kalevaramtam tam evaiti kaunteyasada tad-bhava-bhavitah"Whatever state

of being one remembers when he quits his body, O son of Kunti, that state he will attain without fail."--Bhagavad-gita 8.6Someone who eats meat is cultivating an animalistic mentality. Therefore they will surely become animals in their next lifetime. This is further confirmed as follows in the Vedic wisdom : mam sah khadati iti mamsah"I am now eating the flesh of an animal who will in my next lifetime be eating my flesh."When animals are killed in a slaughterhouse, six people connected with the killing are responsible for the murder all have to suffer . The person who gives permission for the killing, the person who kills, the person who assists, the person who purchases the

meat, the person who cooks the flesh and the person who eats it, all become entangled in the killing and suffer the sinful reactions. They are all in a pitiable condition.The various scriptures allow meat eating under restriction . Even the Vedas allow it under the condition of chanting a mantra in the animal's ear that the killer will become eaten by the very animal that he is killing . Such restricted animal killing is to discourage animal killing not encourage it . The highest level instruction is to completely stop killing . In this connection the Bible states, " Thou shalt not kill ."

For the less intelligent meat eaters (Mlechas) who cannot comprehend Vedic knowledge, Bible and Quran allow conditional animal killing in such a way to educate them to stop it completely . Since they are going to eat meat anyway, it is better that do so under scriptural restriction, so that they can gradually understand that they must give it up.Just

like the government wants to convince all of the citizens to stop smoking, but they know that is not practical to put a complete ban on smoking . It will simply create a black market for cigarettes . Therefore they allow smoking only under tight restriction and at the same time make all kinds of warnings to convince the citizens to stop .

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Hats off to Sri. Krishnadaya!

Regards

KVG

 

 

Krishnadaya wrote:

 

 

Hare Krishna !

 

His Grace Sankarshan Das

Adhikari clarifies :

 

Question:

 

It is said that,

if we eat meat, we may be eaten by the same animal in

our next life. Can you be specific as to where these

conclusions are drawn from (with quotes from the Gita)?

 

When an animal is killed, who suffers the most...the person who

killed the animal or the person who eats the carcass?

 

Also does that Bible and Quran allow its followers to consume meat?

 

Thanks

 

Ravin

 

Answer:

 

The Bhagavad-gita states that in whatever

state of being we quit our body that state we will attain without fail :

 

yam yam vapi smaran bhavam

tyajaty ante kalevaram

tam tam evaiti kaunteya

sada tad-bhava-bhavitah

 

"Whatever state of being one remembers when he quits his body, O son of

Kunti, that state he will attain without fail."

--Bhagavad-gita 8.6

 

Someone who eats meat is cultivating an animalistic mentality. Therefore

they will surely become animals in their next lifetime. This is

further confirmed as follows in the Vedic wisdom :

 

mam sah khadati iti mamsah

 

"I am now eating the flesh of an animal who will in my next lifetime be

eating my flesh."

 

When animals are killed in a slaughterhouse, six people connected with

the killing are responsible for the murder all have to suffer . The

person who gives permission for the killing, the person who kills, the

person who assists, the person who purchases the meat, the person who

cooks the flesh and the person who eats it, all become entangled in the

killing and suffer the sinful reactions. They are all in a

pitiable condition.

 

The various scriptures allow meat eating under restriction . Even

the Vedas allow it under the condition of chanting a mantra in the

animal's ear that the killer will become eaten by the very animal that

he is killing . Such restricted animal killing is to

discourage animal killing not encourage it . The highest level

instruction is to completely stop killing . In this connection

the Bible states, " Thou shalt not kill ."

 

For

the less intelligent meat eaters (Mlechas) who cannot

comprehend Vedic knowledge, Bible and Quran allow conditional animal

killing in such a way to educate them to stop it

completely . Since they are going to eat meat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, it

is better that do so under scriptural restriction, so that they can

gradually understand that they must give it up.

 

Just like the government wants to convince all of the citizens to stop

smoking, but they know that is not practical to put a complete ban on

smoking . It will simply create a black market for cigarettes .

Therefore they allow smoking only under tight restriction and at

the same time make all kinds of warnings to convince the citizens to

stop .

 

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Hare Krsna. Billions of animals - chickens, cows, etc, and Trillions of fishes are killed every year so as to satisfy the appetites of Mlechas. So much waste - in the West only the 'choicest' cuts of meat are eaten. Only the 'good' fish are kept for eating, the zillions of others caught in nets are discarded. Animals are kept in cruel captivity for veal. Bhagavan tells us in no uncertain manner that we should not kill animals. Bhagavad Gita As it Is, Page 745 http://www.asitis.com/16/1-3.html Ahimsa means not arresting the progressive life of any living entity. One should not think that since the spirit spark is never killed even after the killing of the body there is no harm in killing animals

for sense gratification. People are now addicted to eating animals, in spite of having an ample supply of grains, fruits and milk. There is no necessity for animal killing. This injunction is for everyone. When there is no other alternative, one may kill an animal, but it should be offered in sacrifice. At any rate, when there is an ample food supply for humanity, persons who are desiring to make advancement in spiritual realization should not commit violence to animals. Real ahimsa means not checking anyone's progressive life. The animals are also making progress in their evolutionary life by transmigrating from one category of animal life to another. If a particular animal is killed, then his progress is checked. If an animal is staying in a particular body for so many days or so many years and is untimely killed, then he has to come back again in that form of life to complete the remaining days in order to be promoted to another species of life. So their progress

should not be checked simply to satisfy one's palate. This is called ahimsa. Bhagavad Gita As it Is, Page 696 http://www.asitis.com/14/16.html As far as the mode of ignorance is concerned, the performer is without knowledge, and therefore all his activities result in present misery, and afterwards he will go on toward animal life. Animal life is always miserable, although, under the spell of the illusory energy, maya, the animals do not understand this. Slaughtering poor animals is also due to the mode of ignorance. The animal killers do not know that in the future the animal will have a body suitable to kill them. That is the law of nature. In human society, if one kills a man he has to be hanged. That is the law of the state. Because of ignorance, people do

not perceive that there is a complete state controlled by the Supreme Lord. Every living creature is a son of the Supreme Lord, and He does not tolerate even an ant's being killed. One has to pay for it. So, indulgence in animal killing for the taste of the tongue is the grossest kind of ignorance. A human being has no need to kill animals because God has supplied so many nice things. If one indulges in meat-eating anyway, it is to be understood that he is acting in ignorance and is making his future very dark. Of all kinds of animal killing, the killing of cows is most vicious because the cow gives us all kinds of pleasure by supplying milk. Cow slaughter is an act of the grossest type of ignorance. In the Vedic literature the words gobhih prinita-matsaram indicate that one who, being fully satisfied by milk, is desirous of killing the cow, is in the grossest ignorance. There is also a prayer in the Vedic literature that states: namo

brahmanya-devaya go-brahmana-hitaya ca jagad-dhitaya krsnaya govindaya namo namah "My Lord, You are the well-wisher of the cows and the brahmanas, and You are the well-wisher of the entire human society and world." The purport is that special mention is given in that prayer for the protection of the cows and the brahmanas. Brahmanas are the symbol of spiritual education, and cows are the symbol of the most valuable food; these two living creatures, the brahmanas and the cows, must be given all protection--that is real advancement of civilization. In modern human society, spiritual knowledge is neglected, and cow killing is encouraged. It is to be understood, then, that human society is advancing in the wrong direction and is clearing the path to its own condemnation. A civilization which guides the citizens to become animals in their next lives is

certainly not a human civilization. The present human civilization is, of course, grossly misled by the modes of passion and ignorance. It is a very dangerous age, and all nations should take care to provide the easiest process, Krsna consciousness, to save humanity from the greatest danger. "K.V Gopalakrishna" <gopalakrishna.kv wrote: Hats off to Sri.

Krishnadaya!RegardsKVGKrishnadaya wrote: Hare Krishna ! His Grace Sankarshan Das Adhikari clarifies : Question: It is said that, if we eat meat, we may be eaten by the same animal in our next life. Can you be specific as to where these conclusions are drawn from (with quotes from the Gita)?When an animal is killed, who suffers the most...the person who killed the animal or the person who eats the carcass?Also does that Bible and Quran allow its followers to consume meat?ThanksRavin Answer: The Bhagavad-gita states that

in whatever state of being we quit our body that state we will attain without fail :yam yam vapi smaran bhavamtyajaty ante kalevaramtam tam evaiti kaunteyasada tad-bhava-bhavitah"Whatever state of being one remembers when he quits his body, O son of Kunti, that state he will attain without fail."--Bhagavad-gita 8.6Someone who eats meat is cultivating an animalistic mentality. Therefore they will surely become animals in their next lifetime. This is further confirmed as follows in the Vedic wisdom : mam sah khadati iti mamsah"I am now eating the flesh of an animal who will in my next lifetime be eating my flesh."When animals are killed in a slaughterhouse, six people connected with the killing are responsible for the murder all have to suffer . The person who gives permission for the killing, the person who kills, the person who assists, the person

who purchases the meat, the person who cooks the flesh and the person who eats it, all become entangled in the killing and suffer the sinful reactions. They are all in a pitiable condition.The various scriptures allow meat eating under restriction . Even the Vedas allow it under the condition of chanting a mantra in the animal's ear that the killer will become eaten by the very animal that he is killing . Such restricted animal killing is to discourage animal killing not encourage it . The highest level instruction is to completely stop killing . In this connection the Bible states, " Thou shalt not kill ." For the less intelligent meat eaters (Mlechas) who cannot comprehend Vedic knowledge, Bible and

Quran allow conditional animal killing in such a way to educate them to stop it completely . Since they are going to eat meat anyway, it is better that do so under scriptural restriction, so that they can gradually understand that they must give it up.Just like the government wants to convince all of the citizens to stop smoking, but they know that is not practical to put a complete ban on smoking . It will simply create a black market for cigarettes . Therefore they allow smoking only under tight restriction and at the same time

make all kinds of warnings to convince the citizens to stop .

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