Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Hare Krsna "He who is desireless (wanting nothing from anyone), who is at all times immersed in Me, calm and quiet, free of aversion (hatred), and with an equal vision, I at all times follow such a great Soul, so that a speck of dust from his lotus feet, rubs off on Me whereby I am purified. (Srimad Bhagavat. 11:14:16). A devotee of God, that desires something from God, is in essence desiring worldly things, because it is only to acquire those things that He is worshipping God, and not for the sake of God Himself. But God is so very generous, that He also considers them as His devotees. (Gita 7:16). Question: In the Gita, those devotees who desire wealth and material prosperity are also called generous by God, "Udaaraah sarve evaiteh" (Gita 7:18), Why? Answer: Even in those devotees are desiring wealth (arthaathi bhakt) from God, in their eyes God is main (primary), whereas the wealth is secondary. Therefore God has said "Caturvidhaa bhajante maam," (Gita 7:16). Besides God, they do not desire wealth from anyone else. But he who is not a devotee, he who is worshipping God for the sake of satisfying his material desires, cannot attain spiritual upliftment and auspiciousness. As he has not considered God to be the end (saadhya), rather only considered God as the vehicle for fulfilling his desires. His main goal is money, and God is that machine producing equipment. Such an individual leaves God after fulfilling his desires (i.e. God is secondary to him). One woman's husband fell sick. Someone advices her to pray to God to cure her husband's sickness. She prayed exactly as instructed and the husband was healed. Later the husband was once again ill, and she prayed again, but this time the husband died. The woman took the God's idol (statue) and threw it out. Those who pray to God in this manner, cannot attain salvation. But a devotee, who is exclusively depending on God for even his material needs, is still loving to God. The reason is that he is depending on no one else but God as the source for fulfilling his desires. In other words, he has faith, trust and dependecny on only God, and prays to only God for acquiring those things. God not only fulfills the desires of such devotees, such as Dhruv, but in addition, he makes them desireless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 This state of desirelessness, which at the end of all our efforts eventually is given to us by the Lord, is indeed the much sought after state by even the impersonalists, mayavadis and intellectuals following various other paths.To a devotee this comes so easily, whereas the mayavadis and impersonalists struggle so hard to reach this because there is one thing they do not do -that is surrender to Krishna.Thus it is hard for them to attain this state of desirelessness which Krishna gives so easily to His Devotee. , Capil Sookdeo <capilsookdeo wrote: > > Hare Krsna " He who is desireless (wanting nothing from anyone), who is at all > > > times immersed in Me, calm and quiet, free of aversion (hatred), and > > > with an equal vision, I at all times follow such a great Soul, so > > > that a speck of dust from his lotus feet, rubs off on Me whereby I > > > am purified. (Srimad Bhagavat. 11:14:16). > > > > > A devotee of God, that desires something from God, is in essence > > > desiring worldly things, because it is only to acquire those things > > > that He is worshipping God, and not for the sake of God Himself. > > > But God is so very generous, that He also considers them as His > > > devotees. (Gita 7:16). > > > > > Question: In the Gita, those devotees who desire wealth and > > > material prosperity are also called generous by God, " Udaaraah sarve > > > evaiteh " (Gita 7:18), Why? > > > > > Answer: Even in those devotees are desiring wealth (arthaathi > > > bhakt) from God, in their eyes God is main (primary), whereas the > > > wealth is secondary. Therefore God has said " Caturvidhaa bhajante > > > maam, " (Gita 7:16). Besides God, they do not desire wealth from > > > anyone else. But he who is not a devotee, he who is worshipping God > > > for the sake of satisfying his material desires, cannot attain > > > spiritual upliftment and auspiciousness. As he has not considered > > > God to be the end (saadhya), rather only considered God as the > > > vehicle for fulfilling his desires. His main goal is money, and God > > > is that machine producing equipment. Such an individual leaves God > > > after fulfilling his desires (i.e. God is secondary to him). > > > > > One woman's husband fell sick. Someone advices her to pray to God > > > to cure her husband's sickness. She prayed exactly as instructed > > > and the husband was healed. Later the husband was once again ill, > > > and she prayed again, but this time the husband died. The woman > > > took the God's idol (statue) and threw it out. Those who pray to > > > God in this manner, cannot attain salvation. > > > > > But a devotee, who is exclusively depending on God for even his > > > material needs, is still loving to God. The reason is that he is > > > depending on no one else but God as the source for fulfilling his > > > desires. In other words, he has faith, trust and dependecny on only > > > God, and prays to only God for acquiring those things. God not only > > > fulfills the desires of such devotees, such as Dhruv, but in > > > addition, he makes them desireless. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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