Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Dear Rajaram Venkataramani, Good questions. Lord Guruvayoorappan is none but Lord Maha Vishnu. Generally Guruvayoorappan is portrayed with four hands. You may see a picture of Guruvayoorappan in the Photo section of this group. [click Photos from the left side menu].. However, the Guruvayoorappan Idol in the temple is dressed in various forms of Vishnu including baby Krishna in the morning. As far as I know they gradually change the baby Krishna to Gopi Krishna and eventually to Guruvayoorappan (Vishnu) by evening. You may have had an early darshan when the idol is dressed as baby krishna.. Someone, please correct me if I am wrong as I am writing this from an old memory. Regarding the Pooja rituals - Sree Adi Shankaran has established it when he spent 41 days bhajan in the temple and also suggested to celebrate Brahmotsav on Geeta upadesha Ekadasi. More info and comments about these subjects welcome. Om Namo Narayanaya: Sunil. guruvayur , Rajaram Venkataramani <v_raja_ram> wrote: > i had the opportunity to visit this week with my family including brother's and parents. it was so wonderful to have repeated darshans. i noticed that the lord has been decorated to have two hands but in most pictures i see he has four. does any one know how many he does ? > > also, i know that he was established by siva, worshipped by sankara, naraya bhatathiri etc. which school of vedanta do the priests follow - sankara's, ramanuja's, madhwa's ? > > Sunil Kumar <sunilkeezhattoor> wrote: > my last visit was june 2002, after my marrage with my > parents,sister, sisters daughter and my wife. --- > Bhagawan <bhagawan> wrote: > Please post the > time of your last visit to > > Guruvayoor and what you > > liked and not liked during your visit. Keep the > > dicussion group > > active folks ! > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya ! > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ __ > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 thanks a lot bhagawan. Bhagawan <bhagawan wrote: Dear Rajaram Venkataramani,Good questions.Lord Guruvayoorappan is none but Lord Maha Vishnu. Generally Guruvayoorappan is portrayed with four hands. You may see a picture of Guruvayoorappan in the Photo section of this group. [click Photos from the left side menu].. However, the Guruvayoorappan Idol in the temple is dressed in various forms of Vishnu including baby Krishna in the morning. As far as I know they gradually change the baby Krishna to Gopi Krishna and eventually to Guruvayoorappan (Vishnu) by evening. You may have had an early darshan when the idol is dressed as baby krishna.. Someone, please correct me if I am wrong as I am writing this from an old memory. Regarding the Pooja rituals - Sree Adi Shankaran has established it when he spent 41 days bhajan in the temple and also suggested to celebrate Brahmotsav on Geeta upadesha Ekadasi. More info and comments about these subjects welcome.Om Namo Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Rajaram Venkataramani <v_raja_ram> wrote:> i had the opportunity to visit this week with my family including brother's and parents. it was so wonderful to have repeated darshans. i noticed that the lord has been decorated to have two hands but in most pictures i see he has four. does any one know how many he does ? > > also, i know that he was established by siva, worshipped by sankara, naraya bhatathiri etc. which school of vedanta do the priests follow - sankara's, ramanuja's, madhwa's ? > > Sunil Kumar <sunilkeezhattoor> wrote:> my last visit was june 2002, after my marrage with my> parents,sister, sisters daughter and my wife. ---> Bhagawan <bhagawan> wrote: > Please post the> time of your last visit to> > Guruvayoor and what you > > liked and not liked during your visit. Keep the> > dicussion group > > active folks !> > > > Om Namo Narayanaya !> > > > > > > > > > ______________________> Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Bhagawan, I do appreciate your reply. However, let me tell you something. This is not the first time I am seeing people asking - which school the temple belongs (Mr. Rajaram - please excuse me...I am not pinpointing yo your question,...In general I am writing my comments), which agama the temple follows, vadakalai or thenkalai (Tamils especially) etc? These questions and divisions are nothing before Lord Narayana. He is above all these humanly created sectorism. Be it Sri Sankara, Sri Ramanuja or Sri Madhwa - the acceptance of Him same. They are showing only different ways which will lead to Him. This does not mean that He is bound by that way. He is beyond the reaches of all these - that is how the Brahma Sutra of Sri Veda Vyasa claims (Even the vedas are still trying to understand Him). Thus when we see Lord Guruvayurappan our thoughts must be such that He stays in our heart forever and He does that also (this is my personal experience). Also you have mentioned that there is a photos section..I am not able to see the same. Can you please add that? Hope I have not offended anyone by writing the above comments. Ever in the Services of Sri Guruvayoorappan Sridharan guruvayur , " Bhagawan " <bhagawan> wrote: > Dear Rajaram Venkataramani, > > Good questions. > > Lord Guruvayoorappan is none but Lord Maha Vishnu. Generally > Guruvayoorappan is portrayed with four hands. You may see a picture > of Guruvayoorappan in the Photo section of this group. [click Photos > from the left side menu].. > > However, the Guruvayoorappan Idol in the temple is dressed in various > forms of Vishnu including baby Krishna in the morning. As far as I > know they gradually change the baby Krishna to Gopi Krishna and > eventually to Guruvayoorappan (Vishnu) by evening. You may have had > an early darshan when the idol is dressed as baby krishna.. > > Someone, please correct me if I am wrong as I am writing this from an > old memory. > > Regarding the Pooja rituals - Sree Adi Shankaran has established it > when he spent 41 days bhajan in the temple and also suggested to > celebrate Brahmotsav on Geeta upadesha Ekadasi. > > > More info and comments about these subjects welcome. > > Om Namo Narayanaya: > > Sunil. > guruvayur , Rajaram Venkataramani > <v_raja_ram> wrote: > > i had the opportunity to visit this week with my family including > brother's and parents. it was so wonderful to have repeated darshans. > i noticed that the lord has been decorated to have two hands but in > most pictures i see he has four. does any one know how many he does ? > > > > also, i know that he was established by siva, worshipped by > sankara, naraya bhatathiri etc. which school of vedanta do the > priests follow - sankara's, ramanuja's, madhwa's ? > > > > Sunil Kumar <sunilkeezhattoor> wrote: > > my last visit was june 2002, after my marrage with my > > parents,sister, sisters daughter and my wife. --- > > Bhagawan <bhagawan> wrote: > Please post the > > time of your last visit to > > > Guruvayoor and what you > > > liked and not liked during your visit. Keep the > > > dicussion group > > > active folks ! > > > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ > __ > > Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " > > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Sridharan, PHOTO section has been enabled for public viewing. My apologies for not enabling it earlier when I mentioned it in my earlier mail. I agree with you about the sectarianism in every aspect of Hinduism. To be frank, I did not even think sectarianism when I answered the question regarding the pooja vidhi, becuase, no-one ever asked me that before. I never heard about agama, vadakalai or thenkalai etc.. Maybe it is not very common among Keralites, I presume. Now that being said, I perfectly understand why people have different view points on everything including God, temples and rituals. It is mere human to think different, and with that comes different schools of thought. The important aspect is to remember that we are all God's children and there is only one God irrespective of the difference in philosophy or rituals. Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu.. (May all of Creation be happy forever!) Regards Sunil. -- In guruvayur , sridharan_kay <no_reply> wrote: > Dear Bhagawan, > > I do appreciate your reply. However, let me tell you something. This > is not the first time I am seeing people asking - which school the > temple belongs (Mr. Rajaram - please excuse me...I am not pinpointing > yo your question,...In general I am writing my comments), which agama > the temple follows, vadakalai or thenkalai (Tamils especially) etc? > > These questions and divisions are nothing before Lord Narayana. He is > above all these humanly created sectorism. Be it Sri Sankara, Sri > Ramanuja or Sri Madhwa - the acceptance of Him same. They are showing > only different ways which will lead to Him. This does not mean that > He is bound by that way. He is beyond the reaches of all these - that > is how the Brahma Sutra of Sri Veda Vyasa claims (Even the vedas are > still trying to understand Him). > > Thus when we see Lord Guruvayurappan our thoughts must be such that > He stays in our heart forever and He does that also (this is my > personal experience). > > Also you have mentioned that there is a photos section..I am not able > to see the same. Can you please add that? > > Hope I have not offended anyone by writing the above comments. > > Ever in the Services of Sri Guruvayoorappan > > Sridharan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Sridharan, Hare Krishna! You are perfectly right,All the different rituals all focus to the one point, but whatever all the philosophy should have diversified from one major philosophy which I guess should be maintained. Haribol, Your humble servant Kesavan Bhagawan [bhagawan] Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:37 PM guruvayur Re: Guruvayoorappan - Four hands Dear Sridharan, PHOTO section has been enabled for public viewing. My apologies for not enabling it earlier when I mentioned it in my earlier mail. I agree with you about the sectarianism in every aspect of Hinduism. To be frank, I did not even think sectarianism when I answered the question regarding the pooja vidhi, becuase, no-one ever asked me that before. I never heard about agama, vadakalai or thenkalai etc.. Maybe it is not very common among Keralites, I presume. Now that being said, I perfectly understand why people have different view points on everything including God, temples and rituals. It is mere human to think different, and with that comes different schools of thought. The important aspect is to remember that we are all God's children and there is only one God irrespective of the difference in philosophy or rituals. Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu.. (May all of Creation be happy forever!) Regards Sunil. -- In guruvayur , sridharan_kay <no_reply> wrote: > Dear Bhagawan, > > I do appreciate your reply. However, let me tell you something. This > is not the first time I am seeing people asking - which school the > temple belongs (Mr. Rajaram - please excuse me...I am not pinpointing > yo your question,...In general I am writing my comments), which agama > the temple follows, vadakalai or thenkalai (Tamils especially) etc? > > These questions and divisions are nothing before Lord Narayana. He is > above all these humanly created sectorism. Be it Sri Sankara, Sri > Ramanuja or Sri Madhwa - the acceptance of Him same. They are showing > only different ways which will lead to Him. This does not mean that > He is bound by that way. He is beyond the reaches of all these - that > is how the Brahma Sutra of Sri Veda Vyasa claims (Even the vedas are > still trying to understand Him). > > Thus when we see Lord Guruvayurappan our thoughts must be such that > He stays in our heart forever and He does that also (this is my > personal experience). > > Also you have mentioned that there is a photos section..I am not able > to see the same. Can you please add that? > > Hope I have not offended anyone by writing the above comments. > > Ever in the Services of Sri Guruvayoorappan > > Sridharan > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 i suppose you are referring to advaitam. i would concur if it is so. ramanuja, madhwa or other vaishnava acharyas have given their own interpretation. but sankara has explained accurately. the worst part is vaishnavas ruthlessly ttack advaitam without a strong basis. even in guruvayoor iskcon is setting up a facility to preach vaishnavism which includes attack on advaitam. Sajeev Kesavan <sajeev.kesavan wrote: Dear Sridharan,Hare Krishna!You are perfectly right,All the different rituals all focus to the one point,but whatever all the philosophy should have diversified from one major philosophywhich I guess should be maintained.Haribol,Your humble servantKesavanBhagawan [bhagawan]Tuesday, July 27, 2004 11:37 PMguruvayur Subject: Re: Guruvayoorappan - Four handsDear Sridharan,PHOTO section has been enabled for public viewing. My apologies for not enabling it earlier when I mentioned it in my earlier mail. I agree with you about the sectarianism in every aspect of Hinduism. To be frank, I did not even think sectarianism when I answered the question regarding the pooja vidhi, becuase, no-one ever asked me that before. I never heard about agama, vadakalai or thenkalai etc.. Maybe it is not very common among Keralites, I presume. Now that being said, I perfectly understand why people have different view points on everything including God, temples and rituals. It is mere human to think different, and with that comes different schools of thought. The important aspect is to remember that we are all God's children and there is only one God irrespective of the difference in philosophy or rituals. Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavantu.. (May all of Creation be happy forever!)RegardsSunil.-- In guruvayur , sridharan_kay <no_reply> wrote:> Dear Bhagawan,> > I do appreciate your reply. However, let me tell you something. This > is not the first time I am seeing people asking - which school the > temple belongs (Mr. Rajaram - please excuse me...I am not pinpointing > yo your question,...In general I am writing my comments), which agama > the temple follows, vadakalai or thenkalai (Tamils especially) etc?> > These questions and divisions are nothing before Lord Narayana. He is > above all these humanly created sectorism. Be it Sri Sankara, Sri > Ramanuja or Sri Madhwa - the acceptance of Him same. They are showing > only different ways which will lead to Him. This does not mean that > He is bound by that way. He is beyond the reaches of all these - that > is how the Brahma Sutra of Sri Veda Vyasa claims (Even the vedas are > still trying to understand Him). > > Thus when we see Lord Guruvayurappan our thoughts must be such that > He stays in our heart forever and He does that also (this is my > personal experience).> > Also you have mentioned that there is a photos section..I am not able > to see the same. Can you please add that?> > Hope I have not offended anyone by writing the above comments.> > Ever in the Services of Sri Guruvayoorappan> > Sridharan> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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