[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Weekly page from Hindu Dharma: Divided by Work but still of One Heart

September 5, 2005

I agree with you Krishnanujan.Nowhere in the world people are divided on jati and caste basis as in India.There may be recial factors in US and other countries and even in other religions the division is only minimal.But in Hindu India we hv a cluster of castes and creeds.Even for applying to schools the children hv to mention the religion,community,caste to which they belong.If Kerala has got Nairs,Ezhavas,Nambudhiris etc with their own sub sects,in Tamilnadu we hv Gownders,Nadars,Chettiars,Thevars etc and if we go to all states the same is no way different though they call themselves as Hindus and Hinduism is following a way of life and in such a case why there are 101 castes and jatis of the same Hindus.They hv been made as vote banks by the politicians and people prefer the persons standing from their own caste.The same is the case with Christianity and Muslims.Actually conversions hv started to other religions from the time of Moghul Invasion and the arrival of Christian

missioneries who by giving inducements in plenty were able to convert the hapless Hindus to join them and what we see today the people of those religions were Hindus hundreds of years back.People who hv studied Indian history know this fact.

However the present generation is not giving much importance to these things but the ruling class won't allow them to improve their vision which if allowed may throw them out of power. So merit has no meaning and the rulers which ever party or a conglomeration of parties hv their own philosophy and that rules the roost. It may take several decades before all these differences to get vanished and all come under one common umbrella.

In fact you shuld hv addressed this to the sender of the article instead of posting in our Group which abhorrs all these things and we hv only common interest in euologising the Lord and His attributes and in such a forum there is no inferior or superior person based on the so called jatis which is left to the politicians and other interested parties to divide people on the basis of castes for their own benefits.We praise the Lord and His leelas and be satisfied with that.So I do feel unnecessary importance need not be given to such articles which must hv stemmed from an ignorant mind and let us concentrate our activities by remebering the Lord who is our solace for all the ills that are afflicting the society in the name of castes and creeds.Any objection?

Hare Krishna.

krishnanujan <krishnanujan wrote:

-This article(page) makes interesting reading.'Divided by work but still of one heart.' Who is of one heart? Those who made the rules or those who were victimised under this rule? The puranas do not mention about division of people into different jatis and classifying them as Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Visyas and sudras; and again the so-called sudras into numerous categories , more than three-fourth of them falling under the untouchsble group. Not only were they considered as the menial class,forced to do menial work that noone else was prepared to do, they were treated as slaves and made to do slave work, with no payment of any sort in return.They were denied all rights and previlages that human being are entitled to. They wwere even denied temple worship because they were barred from going near the temple. That means

religion and even God were reserved for the previlaged ; again based on jati?Then the author talks about America where advantaged and disadvantaged people fight against each other because of selfishness.Selfishness is inherent in human nature whether western or eastern. Hindus are no different. I think the author has no real knowledge about American system and life style. America is a free country and a land of opportunity. Advantages and disadvantages depend on one's capability ,they make 100million dollars or hundred thousand dollars depending on their intelligence and drive for hard work and not based on class and jati.These classes of labor were created by people of the two upper class jatis for their very own advantage and convenience. The same way western countries then, and the Gulf countries today, kept slaves." our religion survived as living force because of these divisions" Not at all.

More than half of the Hindu population were vonverted to other religions because of this same division. Dont let's fool ourselves.The other reason for its BARE survival is because Hinduism is not a religion as it is but it is a Phylosophy of Life and individuals do not have to pay strict adherence to religioua rites.It is only in Hindu India that we have this disgusting jati system; not in America, Europe, Russia, Africa or Australia. I know because I lived and worked in most of those places.Jai Sree Krishna!.-- In guruvayur , "Auto Mailer at Kamakoti.org" <venky_athome> wrote:> > > > Namaskar> > > This week's page from Hindu Dharma is "Divided by Work but still of One Heart" from "The Vedic Religion And Varna Dharma" at http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part3/chap4.htm , which is attached with this email.> Here are the first few lines from this page:> I spoke about the different jatis, the work allotted to each of them and the rites and customs prescribed for each. What I said was not entirely correct. The vocation is not for jati; it is jati for the vocation. On what basis did the Vedic religion divide the fuelsticks[that is the jatis] into small bundles? It fixed one jati for one vocation. In the West economists talk of division of labour but they are unable to translate their... (see attachment for more)> > Next week we will send you the page "Why only in this Country" from "The Vedic Religion And Varna Dharma".> > Subscribing and Unsubscribing info at http://www.kamakoti.org/feedback/sendhindudharma.php> > (This email has been sent using automated tasks)> > Please report problems, if any, to venkatesh@k...> > Note:> Hindu Dharma is a translation of two volumes of the well known Tamil Book "Deivatthin Kural", which, in turn, is a book of 6 volumes that contains talks of His Holiness Sri Chandrasekharendra Saraswathi Mahaswamiji of Kanchipuram. The entire book is available online at http://www.kamakoti.org/ .

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