Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I hv given what I felt in reply to Krishnanujans mail.Of course I hv mentioned that the article must hv stemmed from an ignorant mind.That may create some confusion.I understand the articles hv been taken from the speeches of late Paramacharya of Kanchi.He was a venerable person even accepted by great persons of other religions,great personalities of Indian and Foreign origins,Heads of States etc. for his erudition and spirtual development.Still the fact remains that instead of uniting people of various castes preference shuld not be given on the basis of Varnasrama dharmam,I feel.Even in Vishnu Sahasranamam in the bhalasruthy this differenciation of castes is mentioned and the benefits accrue to the different castes by reciting the VS.So this division of casteism is in vogue for thousands of years.But what was relevant in those times need not be relevant in todays world.Just like the Teachings of Krishna in Gita.The same must hv some effect in those days.But that shuld not be construed as the law that shuld be followed for all the yugas.Times are always subject to change and the thoughts of humanity also shuld adopt to the conditions prevalent at a particular point of time.By saying that the Seer's speeches must hv come out of ignorant mind, I only mean that even the Great Gurus shld adopt to changing conditions instead of harping on the old theories.After say 50 years the position of the mental set up of the people may not be the same and accordingly the Gurus also shuld adopt to the condiions prevalent at that time and simply relying on old scriptures won't lead anybody anywhere and will invite only criticism.What advises Lord Krishna gave to Arjuna must hv been relevant at that particular situation but that may not be relevant all the time.So even learned and revered Gurus shuld guide the people according to the changing times and never depend on the old dogmas. When the world has become so small with the development of communications and technology depending simply on the out dated formulas will do more harm than good. So one has to adopt himself to the changed conditions and people shuld try to get themselves united by forgetting the old theorems and do service to all as it is said 'manava seva is Madhava seva'.Unless such an attitude comes there will be only chaos and confusion and the castes and creeds will remain like that and adding speeches which don't hv relevance of this aspect can't be appreciated even if the same is made by venerable persons.After all when God created human beings there were no such things and this shuld be understood if humanity is to progress. As I always say this is only my opinion and no intention to wound anybody's feelings.In my view that is Hindu Dharma treating all equally irrespective of the origin of fellow men and women. Hare Krishna. India Matrimony: Find your partner online.Go to http://.shaadi.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2005 Report Share Posted September 6, 2005 -GR Yor are quite right and I respect your opinions. There is no need to apologise to anyone. The passages we have been discussing, have been takken from a book written by a HIndu Guru, nevertheless, it does not conform to the actual Hindu ideals and norms. What is contained in these modern books and for that matter the socalled puranas that is available to us are not the puranas that was written by the ancient sages such as Veda Vyasa and so on. I mean these are not in the original format. Since in the olden days Sanscrit wasknown only to a selected few advantaged class of persons, they had re-written these sacred books changing the contents and adding whereever necessary, items to suit their own selfish interests and to misguide the readers. So being a Guru, he should have researched his facts before putting them in print. Again, it is not true that what was relevant hundred or findred years ago is not relevant today.The fact remains that these were NOT relevant at that time or at present nor was it relevant at any time at all. I stated my views here because someone, who it seems is not well versed in Hinduism had copied from some Tamil literature and presented it in this forum. I do not feel such material has any place in this forum. You are right, GR, these articles have originated from an ignorant mind, whether Guru or no Guru, or a follower of a Guru. Jai Sree Krishna -- In guruvayur , GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62> wrote: > I hv given what I felt in reply to Krishnanujans mail.Of course I hv mentioned that the article must hv stemmed from an ignorant mind.That may create some confusion.I understand the articles hv been taken from the speeches of late Paramacharya of Kanchi.He was a venerable person even accepted by great persons of other religions,great personalities of Indian and Foreign origins,Heads of States etc. for his erudition and spirtual development.Still the fact remains that instead of uniting people of various castes preference shuld not be given on the basis of Varnasrama dharmam,I feel.Even in Vishnu > Sahasranamam in the bhalasruthy this differenciation of castes is mentioned and the benefits accrue to the different castes by reciting the VS.So this division of casteism is in vogue for thousands of years.But what was relevant in those times need not be relevant in todays world.Just like the Teachings of Krishna in Gita.The same must hv some effect in those days.But that shuld not be construed as the law that shuld be followed for all the yugas.Times are always subject to change and the thoughts of humanity also shuld adopt to the conditions prevalent at a particular point of time.By saying that the Seer's > speeches must hv come out of ignorant mind, I only mean that even the Great Gurus shld adopt to changing conditions instead of harping on the old theories.After say 50 years the position of the mental set up of the people may not be the same and accordingly the Gurus also shuld adopt to the condiions prevalent at that time and simply relying on old scriptures won't lead anybody anywhere and will invite only criticism.What advises Lord Krishna gave to Arjuna must hv been relevant at that particular situation but that may not be relevant all the time.So even learned and revered Gurus shuld guide the people according to the changing times and never depend on the old dogmas. > > When the world has become so small with the development of communications and technology depending simply on the out dated formulas will do more harm than good. So one has to adopt himself to the changed conditions and people shuld try to get themselves united by forgetting the old theorems and do service to all as it is said 'manava seva is Madhava seva'.Unless such an attitude comes there will be only chaos and confusion and the castes and creeds will remain like that and adding speeches which don't hv relevance of this aspect can't be appreciated even if the same is made by venerable persons.After all when God created human beings there were no such things and this shuld be understood if humanity is to progress. > As I always say this is only my opinion and no intention to wound anybody's feelings.In my view that is Hindu Dharma treating all equally irrespective of the origin of fellow men and women. > > Hare Krishna. > > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. > Go to http://.shaadi.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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