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!! Sri Rama Jayam !!

 

 

A belated Christmas greetings to all my Krishna friends !

 

I don't know, if any one of you will believe me saying that 'Yes, Jesus Christ

visited India'.

We have ample historical evidences supporting this statement & I am trying to

pull just one such illustration.

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Taken from - http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm

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You may have read the Book Jesus Lived in India (Holger Kersten. 1986. Element

Books), a book that goes over the lost years of Jesus from the time of his

childhood to when he returned to Israel in his mid-thirties, a gap of about 18

years.

 

" A short introductory section precedes a brief description of the early history

of the people of Israel and the life of Moses. An account then follows of how

the eternal Spirit resolves to take on human form 'so that he might demonstrate

by his own example how moral purity may be attained, and by freeing the soul

from its rude mortality, achieve the degree of perfection required to enter into

the Kingdom of Heaven, which is unchanging and ruled by eternal happiness'. And

so a divine infant is born in far-away Israel, and is given the name Issa (a

term similar to Isha " The Lord " ). Sometime during the fourteenth year of his

life, the lad arrives in the region of the Sind (the Indus) in the company of

merchants, 'and he settled among the Aryans, in the land beloved of God, with

the intention of perfecting himself and learning from the laws of the great

Buddha', The young Issa travels through the land of the five rivers (the

Punjab), stays briefly with the 'erring Jains', 'and then proceeds to

Jagannath', 'where the white priests of Brahma honoured him with a joyous

reception'. At Jagannath Issa/Jesus learns to read and understand the Veda. But

by then instructing the Sudras of the lowest castes, he incurs the displeasure

of the Brahmanas, who feel their position and power threatened. After spending

six years in Jagannath, Rajagriha, Benares and other holy cities, he is

compelled to flee the Brahmanas who are outraged at his continuing to teach that

it is not the will of God that the worth of human beings should be judged by the

caste.

There is an extraordinary correlation between the accounts in the texts found by

Notovitch and those of the Gospels, a correlation that can shed more light on

Jesus's own personality - especially in what he said. Notovitch's Issa opposes

the abuses of the caste system, which rob the lower castes of their basic human

rights, saying, 'God our Father makes no difference between any of his children

all of whom he loves equally.' And later on his travels he takes issue with a

rigid and inhumane adherence to the letter of the law, declaring that, 'The law

was made for Man, to show him the way., He consoles the weal: 'The eternal

Judge, the eternal Spirit, who forms the sole and indivisible World Soul

(Super-soul) ...will proceed sternly against those who arrogate His rights to

themselves.' When the priests challenge Issa to produce miracles, to prove the

omnipotence of his God, he retorts, 'The miracles of our God have been performed

ever since the first day when the universe was created; they take place every

day and at every moment . Those who cannot perceive them are robbed of one of

the most beautiful gifts of life.' Challenging the authority of the priests, he

makes his position quite clear: 'So long as the people had no priests, they were

ruled by natural law and they preserved the flawlessness of their souls. Their

souls were in the presence of God, and to commune with the Father they had no

need to resort to the meditation of an idol or a beast, nor to fire, as is

practised here. You say that the Sun must be worshipped, as must the spirits of

good and the spirits of evil. Well, I tell you your doctrine is an utterly false

one, for the Sun has no power of its own, but solely through the will of the

invisible Creator, who gave it birth, and who has willed it to be the star to

light the day, and to warm the labour and the seed-time of Man.'

Notovitch's text goes on to describe how Issa goes further into the Himalayan

ranges, to Nepal, where he remains for six years and dedicates himself to the

study of Buddhist scriptures. The doctrines that he teaches widely there are

simple and clear, and are particularly aimed at uplifting the oppressed and the

weak, whose eyes he opens to the falsity of the priests. Finally, he moves on

towards the West, passing through various countries as an itinerant preacher,

preceded well in advance by a celebrated reputation. He also stands up to the

priests of Persia, who expel him one night in the hope that he would quickly

fall prey to wild animals. But Providence allows the holy Issa to reach

Palestine safely, where the wise men inquire of him, 'Who are you, and from what

country do you come? We have never heard of you and do not even know your name.'

'I am an Israelite,' Issa replies, 'and on the day of my birth I saw the walls

of Jerusalem and heard the sobs of my brothers in their slavery and the walls of

my sisters condemned to live among the heathen. And my soul grieved sorely when

I heard that my brothers had forgotten the true God. As a child, I left my

parents' home to live among other peoples. But after hearing of the great

sorrows that my brothers were suffering. I returned to the land where my parents

lived, in order to bring my brothers back to the faith of our ancestors, a faith

which enjoins us to be patient on Earth so that we might achieve the consummate

and highest happiness in the Beyond " .(Holger Kersten. 1986 & 1994. Jesus Lived

in India. pages 10-12.)

As well as this there is documented evidence that not only did he visit there at

this time but also after the resurrection too.

If anyone is interested I can send you a copy of this FREEWARE electronic book

zipped.

This is an English version of an Urdu treatise written by the Holy Founder of

the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1835-1908). The

theme is the escape of Jesus from death on the cross, and his journey to India

in search of the lost tribes of Israel. Christian as well as Muslim scriptures,

and old medical and historical books including ancient Buddhist records, provide

evidence about this journey.

Jesus is shown to have reached Afghanistan, and to have met the Jews who had

settled there after deliverance from the bondage of Nebuchadnezzar. From

Afghanistan Jesus went on to Kashmir, where other Israelite tribes had settled.

There he made his home, and there in time he died; his tomb has been found in

Srinagar.

:Title Jesus in India

1 Jesus in India

2 Preface

2 Introduction

2 Chapter One

2 Chapter Two

3 On the evidence of the Holy Quran and authentic traditions in proof of Jesus'

survival.

2 Chapter Three

3 On the Evidence derived from books and medicine

2 Chapter Four

3 Evidence from books of history

3 Section 1 - Evidence from Islamic books which contain a mention of Jesus'

journey

3 Section 2 - Evidence from books on Buddhism

3 Section 3 - On the evidence from books of history which show that the coming

of Jesus.....

1 Appendix

(Copied from " Jesus in India " by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, The Promised

Messiah (as).)

The content of this book echo that of Jesus Lived in India (Holger Kersten 1986

& 1994.) the following is also referred to there.

 

Jesus was mentioned in the Vedic literatures

more than 3000+ years before he appeared.

 

In the book called Bhavishya Purana there's a very nice and concise overview of

the mission and mood of Jesus the Son of God.

We have clear written evidence from the ancient scriptures of India, written

down more than five thousand years ago by the great sage Srila Krishna

Dvarpayana Veda Vyasa that the coming of Christ (The Son of God) was a genuine

incident where the Lord sent His pure devotee to perform a particular function

among a particular group of people in a particular tract of land.

Let me include it here for your pleasure:

In Bhavishya Purana He is referred to specifically as Isha Putra - " the Son of

God. "

In the following excerpt from a lecture of our Founder Acarya Srila A.C.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada he clearly points out how the Lord sends His

partial expansion in the form of empowered being for functionary aspects of

fulfilling His works. These empowered beings in the Sanskrit language of India

are termed saktyavesha avataras.

" Lord Buddha, Jesus Christ, they are counted as saktyavesha avataras. They are

also incarnations of saktyavesha, powerful, in this way the Supreme Lord

manifest all over the universes. " (A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. 1966.

Chaitanya Charitamrta lecture. New York.)

Previously when they appeared They did so swith and for a set purpose. Even

prior to their appearance in this world Their clear task was already set out.

Actually They were not of this world, but are spiritual beings empowered by the

Supreme Personality of Godhead to come to this world to fulfil His mission. As

we know Lord Buddha came to stop the people from their animal slaughter and to

teach the compassionate path. Their appearance in this world was not of some

sectarian, conquestrian mission unlike some of their latter day " followers " .

They appeared at a particular place at a particular time and under specific

circumstances that allowed the people of the day to accept their mission as

meaningful. It was part of the overall plan to re-instill and spread God

consciousness, to the masses who were/are in so much need of it.

From SRI BHAVISHYA PURANA. Pratisarga parva, Chaturyuga Khanda Dvitiyadhyayah,

19th Chapter. (text 20 onwards).

Ruling over the Aryans was a king called Salivahana, the grandson of

Vikramaditya, who occupied the throne of his father. He defeated the Sakas who

were very difficult to subdue, the Cinas, the people from Tittiri and Bahikaus

who could assume any form at will. He also defeated the people from Rome and the

descendants of Khuru, who were deceitful and wicked. He punished them severely

and took their wealth. Salivahana thus established the boundaries dividing the

separate countries of the Mlecchas and the Aryans. In this way Sindusthan came

to to be known as the greatest country. That personality appointed the abode of

the Mlecchas beyond the Sindhu river and to the west.

ekadaa tu shakadhisho

himatungari samaayayau

hunadeshasya madhye vai

giristhan purusam shubhano

dadarsha balaram raajaa

Once upon a time the subduer of the Sakas went towards Himatunga and in the

middle of the Huna country (Hunadesh - the area near Manasa Sarovara or Kailash

mountain in Western Tibet), the powerful king saw an auspicious man who was

living on a mountain. The man's complexion was golden and his clothes were

white. (Bhavishya Purana 19:22.)

ko bharam iti tam praaha

su hovacha mudanvitah

iishaa purtagm maam viddhi

kumaarigarbha sambhavam

" The king asked, 'Who are you sir?' 'You should know that I am Isha Putra, the

Son of God'. he replied blissfully, and 'am born of a virgin.' " (Bhavishya

Purana 19:23.)

mleccha dharmasya vaktaram

satyavata paraayanam

iti srutva nrpa praaha

dharmah ko bhavato matah

" 'I am the expounder of the religion of the Mlecchas and I strictly adhere to

the Absolute Truth.' Hearing this the king enquired, 'What are religious

principles according to you opinion?' " (Bhavishya Purana 19:24.)

shruto vaaca maharaja

prapte satyasya amkshaye

nirmaaryaade mlechadesh

mahiso 'ham samaagatah

" Hearing this questions of Salivahara, Isha putra said, 'O king, when the

destruction of the truth occurred, I, Masiha the prophet, came to this country

of degraded people where there are no rules and regulations. Finding that

fearful irreligious condition of the barbarians spreading from Mleccha-Desha, I

have taken to prophethood'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:25-26.)

mlecchasa sthaapito dharmo

mayaa tacchrnu bhuupate

maanasam nirmalam krtva

malam dehe subhaasbham

naiganam apamasthaya

japeta nirmalam param

nyayena satyavacasaa

manasyai kena manavah

dhyayena pujayedisham

suurya-mandala-samsthitam

acaloyam prabhuh sakshat-

athaa suuryacalah sada

" Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established among the

mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad contaminations. The mind

should be purified by taking recourse of proper conduct and performance of japa.

By chanting the holy names one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable

sun attracts, from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord

of the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the hearts of all

living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking truthful words, by mental

harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of Manu, one should worship that

immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:27-30.)

isha muurtirt-dradi praptaa

nityashuddha sivamkari

ishamasihah iti ca

mama nama pratishthitam

" Having placed the eternally pure and auspicious form of the Supreme Lord in my

heart, O protector of the earth planet, I preached these principles through the

Mlecchas' own faith and thus my name became 'isha-masiha' (Jesus the Messiah). "

(Bhavishya Purana 19:31.)

iti shrutra sa bhuupale

natraa tam mlecchapujaam

sthaapayaamaasa tam tutra

mlecchasthaane hi daarune

" After hearing these words and paying obeisances to that person who is

worshipped by the wicked, the king humbly requested him to stay there in the

dreadful land of Mlecchas. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:32.)

svaraajyam praaptavaan raajaa

hayamedhan cikirat

rajyam krtva sa sasthyabdam

svarga lokamu paayayau

" King Salivahara, after leaving his kingdom performed an asvamedha yajna and

after ruling for sixty years, went to heaven. Now please hear what happened when

the king went to svargaloka. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:33.)

Thus ends the second chapter entitled, " the age of Salivahara " of the story of

Kali Yuga of the Caturyuga Khanda also called pratisarga-parva of the wonderful

Bhavishya Maha Purana.

The following Sanskrit verses are taken directly from the Srimad Bhagavatam of

Srila Vyasadeva, the original spiritual master, to support that what we are

saying is coming from authorised the word of God that Bhavishya Purana is an

authorised book written by Srila Vyasadeva.

brahmam padmam vaisnavam ca

saivam laingam sa-garudam

naradiyam bhagavatam

agneyam skanda-samhnitam

bhavisyam brahma-vaivartam

markandeyam sa-vamanam

varaham matsyam kaurmam ca

brahmandakhyam iti tri-sat

These verses taken from Maha Bhagavata Purana (Srimad Bhagavatam 12:7:23-24)

list the eighteen major Puranas that were written by Srila Vyasadeva in His own

words. Please note that on the fifth line Bhavishya is mentioned as one of these

authorised works.

As we know from reading Srimad Bhagavatam, Srila Vyasadeva was instructed by his

Spiritual Master, Srila Narad Muni to compile Srimad Bhagavatam after Srila

Vyasadeva had completed all of his other works, thus we find it included in the

verses mentioned in the Bhagavatam. The Bhagavatam itself mentions that it was

complied after the disappearance of Lord Sri Krsna to His own abode,

(S.B.1:1:23. and S.B.1:3:43), just prior to the Kali Yuga which is estimated by

Vaisnava scholars as being some five thousand years ago, (A.C. Bhaktivedanta

Swami Prabhupada. S.B 1.3.24 purport.) 3000 B.C. Even mundane western scholars

and Indologists who try to deride the Vedic scriptures, and their conclusions

agree that they preceded the appearance of Christ by several thousand years.

We can safely say that these scriptures were all compiled and written before

five thousand years ago by the literary incarnation of Godhead, Srila Vedavyasa.

The above verses are also supported in the Varaha Purana, Siva Purana and Matsya

Purana, so we can conclude that this incident found in Bhavishya Purana is

definitely an authorised source of information.

Paritranaya sadhunam

vinashaya ca duskrtam

Much time has passed since these words were spoken, and many deceitful men, and

women whose ambitions stood foremost in their lives tried their level best to

set themselves up as 'god', or 'his chosen representative'. All to be short

lived by all devouring Time.

Sadly much of the original theology and theosophy of the early church of Christ,

like so many other great saintly teachers, and prophets has been adjusted to the

point of in some cases obscurity.

We thus treasure the Bhavishya Purana, and other Vedic literatures for having

withstood the test of time, and the adulterers being guarded in its original

Sanskrit texts by a chain of dedicated masters and disciples throughout the

ages.

How this scripture's decent has been protectively passed down through time has

been captured in the example of the collecting of delicate and ripe mangoes from

the tree.

The procedure is that at many places along the trunk of the tree dedicated and

careful persons will be employed and thus poised. As the ripened mango fruit is

picked it is carefully passed from one person to the next. Each one careful not

to add anything that may change or spoil the fruit, and taking nothing away that

will diminish its effect of satisfaction. Finally the unadulterated mango finds

its way to where it can be stored and distributed for the price known only to

those who can afford it.

It is utopian to think that everyone will take to or fully appreciate such a

splendid fruit, as it is foolishness to expect common men to know the worth of a

diamond, or swine to appreciate pearls.

The tendency for immature, uneducated and narrow minded persons is to think so

ethnocentricly. Children do it all the time, " My father is better than yours! "

But looking maturely at the big picture with the use of the analogy of the Sun,

one may get a more conclusive understanding. The one Sun that we see in our

skies is universally appreciated and beneficial to all. In our individual or

particular lands we call the Sun by different names according to our particular

culture, and language of that place. In Australia the Aboriginals call it

Rakumba; the Maori of New Zealand call the same Sun Ra; in England the Sun is

referred to as Sun; in France Sole; in India either Ravi or Surya and so on. Is

it not the same Sun???

In the same way The Absolute Truth (Brahman), The Supreme Being, The Infinite

Intelligence, The Almighty Lord (YAHWEH, Jehovah), The Great One (Allah), The

Enlightened or Learned One (Buddha), The Reservoir Of All Pleasure (Rama), The

All Attractive One (Krishna) etc., etc., are all descriptive names for the same

Supreme Being - God. What then is the difference if I say Sun or Surya? The

distinctiveness of the name is only applicable to the region in which it is

used, and the individual function attributed by it or to it. Are we not talking

of the same? Is not our attention and appreciation attracted to the same

qualities?

Still there will always be those who will not accept what we say, as there will

always be those who will not accept me, as there will be those that will not

accept you.

In this presentation we are not trying to wedge the philosophy of Krishna

consciousness firmly up anyone's nose, rather we are trying to broaden the

vision of those who may not be aware of fundamental background information that

could and hopefully would change the perspective to viewing the broader picture.

More than this we cannot say.......except there are those also that do not

accept Lord Sri Krishna or Yahweh, Allah, etc., to be the Supreme Personality of

Godhead, the orchestrator of this Divine master plan, and it wouldn't matter

what we called Him. Also as they say sometimes in India....... " The dogs on the

road may bark, yet still the caravan goes by! "

Thanks for reading .. (Source - http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm)

Hare Krishna

Hare Rama

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The story of Jesus visiting India between the age of 14 and

22,following thw Caravan route, was written by Khushwant Singh, the

former editor of the then Illustrated Weekly of India in early 1960

or 1970. It is also believed that Jesus died and was buried in

Amritsar.

Different people have different stories and opinions about this

matter.

However, should we not dedicate the GURUVAYUR forum purely for the

discussion of matters related to Lord Krishna (Guruvayoorappan) and

Hinduism ? What are the views of the members?

 

This is what Mahatma Gandhi had to say about Christianity:

 

Jai Shree Krishna !

 

An Insight into the mind of Gandhi through Questions and Answers

 

Q

What do you think of Christianity ? Did you consider becoming a

Christian ?

A

 

My association with Christians dates from 1889 and there was a time

in my life when I sincerely considered Christianity as my religion.

In my pursuit, I met many a scholars and thinkers, who while having a

profound effect on me, were not able to convince me. Although I

admire much in Christianity, I am unable to identify myself with the

orthodox Christianity. I must tell you in all humility that Hinduism,

as I know it, entirely satisfies my soul, and fills my whole being.

 

The missionaries come to India thinking that they come to a land of

heathen, of idolaters, of men who do not know God. My own experiences

all over India have been on the contrary. An average Indian is as

much a seeker after truth as the Christian missionaries are, possibly

more so.

Please do not flatter yourselves with the belief that a mere recital

of that celebrated verse in St. John makes a man Christian. If I have

read the Bible correctly, I know many men who have never known the

name of Jesus Christ, men who have even rejected the official

interpretations of Christianity, but would nevertheless, if Jesus

came in our midst today in the flesh, be probably owned by him more

than many of us. My position is that it does not matter what faith

you practice, as long as the soul longs for truth.

 

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guruvayur , " PS, Vinod K \(GE Infra, Energy\) "

<vinod.ps@g...> wrote:

>

> !! Sri Rama Jayam !!

>

>

> A belated Christmas greetings to all my Krishna friends !

>

> I don't know, if any one of you will believe me saying that 'Yes,

Jesus Christ visited India'.

> We have ample historical evidences supporting this statement & I am

trying to pull just one such illustration.

> --

------------------------

> Taken from - http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-To-India.htm

> --

-------------------------

> You may have read the Book Jesus Lived in India (Holger Kersten.

1986. Element Books), a book that goes over the lost years of Jesus

from the time of his childhood to when he returned to Israel in his

mid-thirties, a gap of about 18 years.

>

> " A short introductory section precedes a brief description of the

early history of the people of Israel and the life of Moses. An

account then follows of how the eternal Spirit resolves to take on

human form 'so that he might demonstrate by his own example how moral

purity may be attained, and by freeing the soul from its rude

mortality, achieve the degree of perfection required to enter into

the Kingdom of Heaven, which is unchanging and ruled by eternal

happiness'. And so a divine infant is born in far-away Israel, and is

given the name Issa (a term similar to Isha " The Lord " ). Sometime

during the fourteenth year of his life, the lad arrives in the region

of the Sind (the Indus) in the company of merchants, 'and he settled

among the Aryans, in the land beloved of God, with the intention of

perfecting himself and learning from the laws of the great Buddha',

The young Issa travels through the land of the five rivers (the

Punjab), stays briefly with the 'erring Jains', 'and then proceeds to

Jagannath', 'where the white priests of Brahma honoured him with a

joyous reception'. At Jagannath Issa/Jesus learns to read and

understand the Veda. But by then instructing the Sudras of the lowest

castes, he incurs the displeasure of the Brahmanas, who feel their

position and power threatened. After spending six years in Jagannath,

Rajagriha, Benares and other holy cities, he is compelled to flee the

Brahmanas who are outraged at his continuing to teach that it is not

the will of God that the worth of human beings should be judged by

the caste.

> There is an extraordinary correlation between the accounts in the

texts found by Notovitch and those of the Gospels, a correlation that

can shed more light on Jesus's own personality - especially in what

he said. Notovitch's Issa opposes the abuses of the caste system,

which rob the lower castes of their basic human rights, saying, 'God

our Father makes no difference between any of his children all of

whom he loves equally.' And later on his travels he takes issue with

a rigid and inhumane adherence to the letter of the law, declaring

that, 'The law was made for Man, to show him the way., He consoles

the weal: 'The eternal Judge, the eternal Spirit, who forms the sole

and indivisible World Soul (Super-soul) ...will proceed sternly

against those who arrogate His rights to themselves.' When the

priests challenge Issa to produce miracles, to prove the omnipotence

of his God, he retorts, 'The miracles of our God have been performed

ever since the first day when the universe was created; they take

place every day and at every moment . Those who cannot perceive them

are robbed of one of the most beautiful gifts of life.' Challenging

the authority of the priests, he makes his position quite clear: 'So

long as the people had no priests, they were ruled by natural law and

they preserved the flawlessness of their souls. Their souls were in

the presence of God, and to commune with the Father they had no need

to resort to the meditation of an idol or a beast, nor to fire, as is

practised here. You say that the Sun must be worshipped, as must the

spirits of good and the spirits of evil. Well, I tell you your

doctrine is an utterly false one, for the Sun has no power of its

own, but solely through the will of the invisible Creator, who gave

it birth, and who has willed it to be the star to light the day, and

to warm the labour and the seed-time of Man.'

> Notovitch's text goes on to describe how Issa goes further into the

Himalayan ranges, to Nepal, where he remains for six years and

dedicates himself to the study of Buddhist scriptures. The doctrines

that he teaches widely there are simple and clear, and are

particularly aimed at uplifting the oppressed and the weak, whose

eyes he opens to the falsity of the priests. Finally, he moves on

towards the West, passing through various countries as an itinerant

preacher, preceded well in advance by a celebrated reputation. He

also stands up to the priests of Persia, who expel him one night in

the hope that he would quickly fall prey to wild animals. But

Providence allows the holy Issa to reach Palestine safely, where the

wise men inquire of him, 'Who are you, and from what country do you

come? We have never heard of you and do not even know your name.'

> 'I am an Israelite,' Issa replies, 'and on the day of my birth I

saw the walls of Jerusalem and heard the sobs of my brothers in their

slavery and the walls of my sisters condemned to live among the

heathen. And my soul grieved sorely when I heard that my brothers had

forgotten the true God. As a child, I left my parents' home to live

among other peoples. But after hearing of the great sorrows that my

brothers were suffering. I returned to the land where my parents

lived, in order to bring my brothers back to the faith of our

ancestors, a faith which enjoins us to be patient on Earth so that we

might achieve the consummate and highest happiness in the Beyond " .

(Holger Kersten. 1986 & 1994. Jesus Lived in India. pages 10-12.)

> As well as this there is documented evidence that not only did he

visit there at this time but also after the resurrection too.

> If anyone is interested I can send you a copy of this FREEWARE

electronic book zipped.

> This is an English version of an Urdu treatise written by the Holy

Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam, Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad

(1835-1908). The theme is the escape of Jesus from death on the

cross, and his journey to India in search of the lost tribes of

Israel. Christian as well as Muslim scriptures, and old medical and

historical books including ancient Buddhist records, provide evidence

about this journey.

> Jesus is shown to have reached Afghanistan, and to have met the

Jews who had settled there after deliverance from the bondage of

Nebuchadnezzar. From Afghanistan Jesus went on to Kashmir, where

other Israelite tribes had settled. There he made his home, and there

in time he died; his tomb has been found in Srinagar.

> :Title Jesus in India

> 1 Jesus in India

> 2 Preface

> 2 Introduction

> 2 Chapter One

> 2 Chapter Two

> 3 On the evidence of the Holy Quran and authentic traditions in

proof of Jesus' survival.

> 2 Chapter Three

> 3 On the Evidence derived from books and medicine

> 2 Chapter Four

> 3 Evidence from books of history

> 3 Section 1 - Evidence from Islamic books which contain a mention

of Jesus' journey

> 3 Section 2 - Evidence from books on Buddhism

> 3 Section 3 - On the evidence from books of history which show that

the coming of Jesus.....

> 1 Appendix

> (Copied from " Jesus in India " by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani,

The Promised Messiah (as).)

> The content of this book echo that of Jesus Lived in India (Holger

Kersten 1986 & 1994.) the following is also referred to there.

>

> Jesus was mentioned in the Vedic literatures

> more than 3000+ years before he appeared.

>

> In the book called Bhavishya Purana there's a very nice and concise

overview of the mission and mood of Jesus the Son of God.

> We have clear written evidence from the ancient scriptures of

India, written down more than five thousand years ago by the great

sage Srila Krishna Dvarpayana Veda Vyasa that the coming of Christ

(The Son of God) was a genuine incident where the Lord sent His pure

devotee to perform a particular function among a particular group of

people in a particular tract of land.

> Let me include it here for your pleasure:

> In Bhavishya Purana He is referred to specifically as Isha Putra -

" the Son of God. "

> In the following excerpt from a lecture of our Founder Acarya Srila

A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada he clearly points out how the

Lord sends His partial expansion in the form of empowered being for

functionary aspects of fulfilling His works. These empowered beings

in the Sanskrit language of India are termed saktyavesha avataras.

> " Lord Buddha, Jesus Christ, they are counted as saktyavesha

avataras. They are also incarnations of saktyavesha, powerful, in

this way the Supreme Lord manifest all over the universes. " (A.C.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. 1966. Chaitanya Charitamrta lecture.

New York.)

> Previously when they appeared They did so swith and for a set

purpose. Even prior to their appearance in this world Their clear

task was already set out. Actually They were not of this world, but

are spiritual beings empowered by the Supreme Personality of Godhead

to come to this world to fulfil His mission. As we know Lord Buddha

came to stop the people from their animal slaughter and to teach the

compassionate path. Their appearance in this world was not of some

sectarian, conquestrian mission unlike some of their latter

day " followers " . They appeared at a particular place at a particular

time and under specific circumstances that allowed the people of the

day to accept their mission as meaningful. It was part of the overall

plan to re-instill and spread God consciousness, to the masses who

were/are in so much need of it.

> From SRI BHAVISHYA PURANA. Pratisarga parva, Chaturyuga Khanda

Dvitiyadhyayah, 19th Chapter. (text 20 onwards).

> Ruling over the Aryans was a king called Salivahana, the grandson

of Vikramaditya, who occupied the throne of his father. He defeated

the Sakas who were very difficult to subdue, the Cinas, the people

from Tittiri and Bahikaus who could assume any form at will. He also

defeated the people from Rome and the descendants of Khuru, who were

deceitful and wicked. He punished them severely and took their

wealth. Salivahana thus established the boundaries dividing the

separate countries of the Mlecchas and the Aryans. In this way

Sindusthan came to to be known as the greatest country. That

personality appointed the abode of the Mlecchas beyond the Sindhu

river and to the west.

> ekadaa tu shakadhisho

> himatungari samaayayau

> hunadeshasya madhye vai

> giristhan purusam shubhano

> dadarsha balaram raajaa

> Once upon a time the subduer of the Sakas went towards Himatunga

and in the middle of the Huna country (Hunadesh - the area near

Manasa Sarovara or Kailash mountain in Western Tibet), the powerful

king saw an auspicious man who was living on a mountain. The man's

complexion was golden and his clothes were white. (Bhavishya Purana

19:22.)

> ko bharam iti tam praaha

> su hovacha mudanvitah

> iishaa purtagm maam viddhi

> kumaarigarbha sambhavam

> " The king asked, 'Who are you sir?' 'You should know that I am Isha

Putra, the Son of God'. he replied blissfully, and 'am born of a

virgin.' " (Bhavishya Purana 19:23.)

> mleccha dharmasya vaktaram

> satyavata paraayanam

> iti srutva nrpa praaha

> dharmah ko bhavato matah

> " 'I am the expounder of the religion of the Mlecchas and I

strictly adhere to the Absolute Truth.' Hearing this the king

enquired, 'What are religious principles according to you

opinion?' " (Bhavishya Purana 19:24.)

> shruto vaaca maharaja

> prapte satyasya amkshaye

> nirmaaryaade mlechadesh

> mahiso 'ham samaagatah

> " Hearing this questions of Salivahara, Isha putra said, 'O king,

when the destruction of the truth occurred, I, Masiha the prophet,

came to this country of degraded people where there are no rules and

regulations. Finding that fearful irreligious condition of the

barbarians spreading from Mleccha-Desha, I have taken to

prophethood'. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:25-26.)

> mlecchasa sthaapito dharmo

> mayaa tacchrnu bhuupate

> maanasam nirmalam krtva

> malam dehe subhaasbham

> naiganam apamasthaya

> japeta nirmalam param

> nyayena satyavacasaa

> manasyai kena manavah

> dhyayena pujayedisham

> suurya-mandala-samsthitam

> acaloyam prabhuh sakshat-

> athaa suuryacalah sada

> " Please hear Oh king which religious principles I have established

among the mlecchas. The living entity is subject to good and bad

contaminations. The mind should be purified by taking recourse of

proper conduct and performance of japa. By chanting the holy names

one attains the highest purity. Just as the immovable sun attracts,

from all directions, the elements of all living beings, the Lord of

the solar region, who is fixed and all-attractive, attracts the

hearts of all living creatures. Thus by following rules, speaking

truthful words, by mental harmony and by meditation, Oh descendant of

Manu, one should worship that immovable Lord'. " (Bhavishya Purana

19:27-30.)

> isha muurtirt-dradi praptaa

> nityashuddha sivamkari

> ishamasihah iti ca

> mama nama pratishthitam

> " Having placed the eternally pure and auspicious form of the

Supreme Lord in my heart, O protector of the earth planet, I preached

these principles through the Mlecchas' own faith and thus my name

became 'isha-masiha' (Jesus the Messiah). " (Bhavishya Purana 19:31.)

> iti shrutra sa bhuupale

> natraa tam mlecchapujaam

> sthaapayaamaasa tam tutra

> mlecchasthaane hi daarune

> " After hearing these words and paying obeisances to that person who

is worshipped by the wicked, the king humbly requested him to stay

there in the dreadful land of Mlecchas. " (Bhavishya Purana 19:32.)

> svaraajyam praaptavaan raajaa

> hayamedhan cikirat

> rajyam krtva sa sasthyabdam

> svarga lokamu paayayau

> " King Salivahara, after leaving his kingdom performed an asvamedha

yajna and after ruling for sixty years, went to heaven. Now please

hear what happened when the king went to svargaloka. " (Bhavishya

Purana 19:33.)

> Thus ends the second chapter entitled, " the age of Salivahara " of

the story of Kali Yuga of the Caturyuga Khanda also called pratisarga-

parva of the wonderful Bhavishya Maha Purana.

> The following Sanskrit verses are taken directly from the Srimad

Bhagavatam of Srila Vyasadeva, the original spiritual master, to

support that what we are saying is coming from authorised the word of

God that Bhavishya Purana is an authorised book written by Srila

Vyasadeva.

> brahmam padmam vaisnavam ca

> saivam laingam sa-garudam

> naradiyam bhagavatam

> agneyam skanda-samhnitam

> bhavisyam brahma-vaivartam

> markandeyam sa-vamanam

> varaham matsyam kaurmam ca

> brahmandakhyam iti tri-sat

> These verses taken from Maha Bhagavata Purana (Srimad Bhagavatam

12:7:23-24) list the eighteen major Puranas that were written by

Srila Vyasadeva in His own words. Please note that on the fifth line

Bhavishya is mentioned as one of these authorised works.

> As we know from reading Srimad Bhagavatam, Srila Vyasadeva was

instructed by his Spiritual Master, Srila Narad Muni to compile

Srimad Bhagavatam after Srila Vyasadeva had completed all of his

other works, thus we find it included in the verses mentioned in the

Bhagavatam. The Bhagavatam itself mentions that it was complied after

the disappearance of Lord Sri Krsna to His own abode, (S.B.1:1:23.

and S.B.1:3:43), just prior to the Kali Yuga which is estimated by

Vaisnava scholars as being some five thousand years ago, (A.C.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. S.B 1.3.24 purport.) 3000 B.C. Even

mundane western scholars and Indologists who try to deride the Vedic

scriptures, and their conclusions agree that they preceded the

appearance of Christ by several thousand years.

> We can safely say that these scriptures were all compiled and

written before five thousand years ago by the literary incarnation of

Godhead, Srila Vedavyasa. The above verses are also supported in the

Varaha Purana, Siva Purana and Matsya Purana, so we can conclude that

this incident found in Bhavishya Purana is definitely an authorised

source of information.

> Paritranaya sadhunam

> vinashaya ca duskrtam

> Much time has passed since these words were spoken, and many

deceitful men, and women whose ambitions stood foremost in their

lives tried their level best to set themselves up as 'god', or 'his

chosen representative'. All to be short lived by all devouring Time.

> Sadly much of the original theology and theosophy of the early

church of Christ, like so many other great saintly teachers, and

prophets has been adjusted to the point of in some cases obscurity.

> We thus treasure the Bhavishya Purana, and other Vedic literatures

for having withstood the test of time, and the adulterers being

guarded in its original Sanskrit texts by a chain of dedicated

masters and disciples throughout the ages.

> How this scripture's decent has been protectively passed down

through time has been captured in the example of the collecting of

delicate and ripe mangoes from the tree.

> The procedure is that at many places along the trunk of the tree

dedicated and careful persons will be employed and thus poised. As

the ripened mango fruit is picked it is carefully passed from one

person to the next. Each one careful not to add anything that may

change or spoil the fruit, and taking nothing away that will diminish

its effect of satisfaction. Finally the unadulterated mango finds its

way to where it can be stored and distributed for the price known

only to those who can afford it.

> It is utopian to think that everyone will take to or fully

appreciate such a splendid fruit, as it is foolishness to expect

common men to know the worth of a diamond, or swine to appreciate

pearls.

> The tendency for immature, uneducated and narrow minded persons is

to think so ethnocentricly. Children do it all the time, " My father

is better than yours! "

> But looking maturely at the big picture with the use of the analogy

of the Sun, one may get a more conclusive understanding. The one Sun

that we see in our skies is universally appreciated and beneficial to

all. In our individual or particular lands we call the Sun by

different names according to our particular culture, and language of

that place. In Australia the Aboriginals call it Rakumba; the Maori

of New Zealand call the same Sun Ra; in England the Sun is referred

to as Sun; in France Sole; in India either Ravi or Surya and so on.

Is it not the same Sun???

> In the same way The Absolute Truth (Brahman), The Supreme Being,

The Infinite Intelligence, The Almighty Lord (YAHWEH, Jehovah), The

Great One (Allah), The Enlightened or Learned One (Buddha), The

Reservoir Of All Pleasure (Rama), The All Attractive One (Krishna)

etc., etc., are all descriptive names for the same Supreme Being -

God. What then is the difference if I say Sun or Surya? The

distinctiveness of the name is only applicable to the region in which

it is used, and the individual function attributed by it or to it.

Are we not talking of the same? Is not our attention and appreciation

attracted to the same qualities?

> Still there will always be those who will not accept what we say,

as there will always be those who will not accept me, as there will

be those that will not accept you.

> In this presentation we are not trying to wedge the philosophy of

Krishna consciousness firmly up anyone's nose, rather we are trying

to broaden the vision of those who may not be aware of fundamental

background information that could and hopefully would change the

perspective to viewing the broader picture.

> More than this we cannot say.......except there are those also that

do not accept Lord Sri Krishna or Yahweh, Allah, etc., to be the

Supreme Personality of Godhead, the orchestrator of this Divine

master plan, and it wouldn't matter what we called Him. Also as they

say sometimes in India....... " The dogs on the road may bark, yet

still the caravan goes by! "

> Thanks for reading .. (Source - http://www.salagram.net/Jesus-Went-

To-India.htm)

> Hare Krishna

> Hare Rama

>

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