Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 Shri. Ganapathy Raman and others, Radhe Krishna! You are referring to the " Samrambha Yoga " or " Mode of Confrontation " adopted by Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakasipu, Ravana, Kumbhakarna, Sisupala, Dantavaktra, etc. In Krishnavatara itself, the cases of Putana, Sakatasura, Aghasura etc., point to this mode of focusing the mind on the Lord. All of them , it is said, received Salvation at the hands of God, as their degree of hatred was so high, that they were thinking of Hari *_all the time_*, considering him as enemy number oner with the intention of killing him. The story of the three pairs, Hiranyaksha-Hiranyakasipu, Ravana-Kumbhakarna, and Sisupala-Dandavaktra were different, in the fact that they were originally the Jaya-vijaya pair who had already attained Saroopya with Lord Hari, and had incurred the curse of the Sanaka brothers for ill-treating them. They regretted their action and prayed to the Lord that they should be given the advantage of remembering Him in whatever shape they were, and the Lord only suggested the mode of " Confrontation " as a quick mode of returning to Him. They, in their incarnations as the three pairs of Asuras, did not remember their earlier relation with Sri Hari and they only knew to hate Him tooth and nail. Their hatred was not half-hearted, but a total hatred, so that they would do anything to kill Sri Hari. Their feeling towards God cannot be termed " Virodha-bhakti " , but only as " Samrambha - Yoga " . There was no element of Bhakti in their actions, and we cannot call it a form of Bhakti. Bhakti involves love and devotion, and cannot come out of hatred. We may say, " they focused their mind on the Lord all the time, and they could not think of anything else other than ways and means of killing Him. " That is " Samrambha-yoga " , which yields results in Salvation in the same way or even better than real " Bhakti-yoga " . " Yena kenapi prakarena manah Krishne Prvesayet. " It only finally boils down to the fact that one should focus one's mind on Him _*all the time*_ irrespective of the method employed. But in all cases, at the last moment, the time of their spirit departing the body, they realised their enemy as the Supreme One, which led to their emancipation, except in the case of Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakasipu, Ravana and Kumbhakarna who could not visualise the Lord as the Supreme Brahman, on account of the fact that they were destined by process of the curse to have one more birth as Asura. Take the case of a 20th century God-hater, E.V. Ramaswamy Naicker, for instance. Although he was showing to the world of atheists that he hated God, in his heart of hearts, there was an element of devotion. It is said that he had a temple of Sri Rama in his house, and he was propitiating Lord Rama secretly, conducting regular poojas etc, employing a Brahmin Poojary. One cannot say he was adopting " Samrambha-yoga " as he had really God enshrined in his mind and was worshipping Him, although to the world, he was projecting himself as a God-hater, to win cheap popularity among atheists. This is the purest example of the preponderance of Tamo-guna in a person. These are some stray thoughts which occurred to my mind, while on the subject of what Shri Ganapathy Raman referred to as Virodha-Bhakti Regards KVG GANAPATHY RAMAN wrote: > Normally we used to hv bhakthy only in a positive aspect thereby > making the Lord our soul refuge and surrender unto Him without > reservations and spend our > time in constant rememberance.But in this mysterious world we find > that there is opposition to every aspect.eg.positive and negative,day > and night,love and anger etc.So when we can hv loving bhakthy there > also can be virodha bhakthy > which is also another type of bhakthy.We consider that all bhakthy > devotion must be characterised by love and consider hatred as the > exact opposite of bhakthy.The virodha bhakthy can also be thought as > Black whiteness.Yet it > is a fact that devotion springs thru hatred also.That is why the term > vyree bhakthy is in common use.The cases of Ravana,Kamsa,Hiranyakasipu > are cited > as instances of virodhi bhakthy.Several of us consider these cases as > instances of violent poisonous hatred getting into a previously > healthy loving system,which > might hv naturally killed out all Love and Bhakthy except for the > special Grace of > God that checks the effects of the poison by strengthening the reserve > power > or power of revival of health that every organism possesses within > certain limits. > > The hatred is no doubt poisonous but by divine grace the old Love is > not destroyed but only temporarily clouded or muddled.Many consider > hatred as > negative electricity applied to one side of the jivas producing by > induction the > opposite of it viz.positive electricity or Love in another side.In > Srimad Bhagavata > VII Skanda,Chapter I verses 25 to 30 the main point covered is let the > mind be > covered by hatred or devotion or fear or friendship or even by > lust,but somehow it > must be directed towards Godward so as not to be diverted to other > things.The > worm shut up in the bee's closed earthern cell constantly thinks of > the bee in > terror and thereby turns into a bee.Persons who hv by hatred of the > Lord Krishna > who masquerades as a man purified themselves of Sin and attain > Him.Many hv > reached His state by fixing their minds on Him thru > lust,hatred,fear,friendship, > or devotion and thus getting rid of their sins.By lust the gopis > reached Him,by > fear Kamsa,by hatred Sisupala,by kinship the Vrishnis and others by > friendship and devotion.(the above are only synopsis of the verses 25 > to 30). > > It shuld be noted that the term virodhi bhakthy is not used in any of > these passages.What is used is vyra anubhanda or vyra yoga and this is > contrasted > with bhakthy.Evidently it must hv been perceived that it is absurd to > call hatred > by the name bhakthy.If even the name hatred is so repulsive,one may > ask how > does hatred serve take the soul to God.The answer is that it does not > matter > for what reason the mind is turned to God.Let it turn to God in > violent anger > or hatred or out of lust,it will be still in contact with God.And God > is such a wonderful dynamo that it will absorb into itself all sorts > of objects and convert them into itself.The hatred serves the purpose > of intense concentration-a process that goes on intensifying itself > and preventing any forgetfulness of God. > The stories of Hiranya and Kamsa are classic examples.It is forgetting > the God that forms the real danger.That is apathy,a barren state.If > the mind is fired > with hatred or anger with God,it is fascinated by God and has soon to > surrender itself without itself knowing.Its fangs of hatred are soon > steeped in Divine Love > and become Love.It is like tender gallnut steeped in syrup or in like > juice,which > retains its form but loses its taste entirely.The old flavour if > slightly retained, > gives a variety and piquancy to the taste and increases its utility or > attraction. > So the secret of this so called vyree bhakthy is its being directed > towards God > with persistent and great violence carried to the point of fascination > and surrender. > > Now the natural question arises is there any difference noticeable > between this > sort of hatred or irreverence for God and the ordinary forms of > ungodliness or > scoffing and disregard for God?The latter tend to degrade and may go > on degrading the scoffer or sinner for a very long time.But the former > on account of > extra-ordinary and ever increasing violence must soon come to a > stop.It is like > a locust rushing at and getting destroyed in the flame.The hating ego > rushes > likewise into the dvine flame and is burnt up.It becomes part of the > flame.The ego is purified of its hatred and becomes part and parcel of > God.That is the real distinction between ordiary hatred and what is > termed Virodha bhakthy.Let one > angrily ask God why He takes a delight in tantalising a poor creature > and when He proposes to put an end to the intolerable situation one is > placed.If one has > a metaphysical or introverted turn of mind,let him very earnestly > examine what it > is that he terms GOD ,what his Self and what other selves or > things.Even this > observation and analysis must be conducted with great persistence and > earnestness and not in a half hearted way.Then sooner or later > (according to the degree of his earnestness and his poorva punya,it > may be}, he will perceive that > there is only one substratum or essence underlying these three > entities God, > Self and Universe which may be termed Parameswar,Paramatman or > Parabrahman.To attain this one must seek the company of Great souls > especially when one's bhakthy has been upset.Satsang also gives relief > when > oher measures are not available or found useless.So whatever way God is > remembered if the same is done without reservations the Reality dawns. > > Hare Krishna, > > agraman. > > ------ > India Answers: Share what you know. 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Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Hare Krishna! Dear Sri.Gopalakrishnaji, I was shocked to read about the secret devotion of E.V. Ramaswamy Naicker. This ICON of Atheism and Anti-Brahamanism secretly worshipped Lord Rama at home and the pujas use to be done by a Brahmin Poojari !!!. My humble request to you is to give us more details of this shocking truth with supporting evidence (if any) in order to enable us to take to as many people as posssible . In this way we can save so many people who are still misguided by this king of cheats. Your humble servant Krishnadaya guruvayur , " K.V Gopalakrishna " <gopalakrishna.kv wrote: > > Shri. Ganapathy Raman and others, > Radhe Krishna! > > You are referring to the " Samrambha Yoga " or " Mode of Confrontation " > adopted by Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakasipu, Ravana, Kumbhakarna, Sisupala, > Dantavaktra, etc. In Krishnavatara itself, the cases of Putana, > Sakatasura, Aghasura etc., point to this mode of focusing the mind on > the Lord. All of them , it is said, received Salvation at the hands > of God, as their degree of hatred was so high, that they were thinking > of Hari *_all the time_*, considering him as enemy number oner with the > intention of killing him. > The story of the three pairs, Hiranyaksha-Hiranyakasipu, > Ravana-Kumbhakarna, and Sisupala-Dandavaktra were different, in the fact > that they were originally the Jaya-vijaya pair who had already attained > Saroopya with Lord Hari, and had incurred the curse of the Sanaka > brothers for ill-treating them. They regretted their action and prayed > to the Lord that they should be given the advantage of remembering Him > in whatever shape they were, and the Lord only suggested the mode of > " Confrontation " as a quick mode of returning to Him. They, in their > incarnations as the three pairs of Asuras, did not remember their > earlier relation with Sri Hari and they only knew to hate Him tooth and > nail. Their hatred was not half-hearted, but a total hatred, so that > they would do anything to kill Sri Hari. Their feeling towards God > cannot be termed " Virodha-bhakti " , but only as " Samrambha - Yoga " . > There was no element of Bhakti in their actions, and we cannot call it a > form of Bhakti. Bhakti involves love and devotion, and cannot come out > of hatred. We may say, " they focused their mind on the Lord all the > time, and they could not think of anything else other than ways and > means of killing Him. " That is " Samrambha-yoga " , which yields results > in Salvation in the same way or even better than real " Bhakti- yoga " . > " Yena kenapi prakarena manah Krishne Prvesayet. " It only finally > boils down to the fact that one should focus one's mind on Him _*all the > time*_ irrespective of the method employed. But in all cases, at the > last moment, the time of their spirit departing the body, they realised > their enemy as the Supreme One, which led to their emancipation, except > in the case of Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakasipu, Ravana and Kumbhakarna who > could not visualise the Lord as the Supreme Brahman, on account of the > fact that they were destined by process of the curse to have one more > birth as Asura. > > Take the case of a 20th century God-hater, E.V. Ramaswamy Naicker, for > instance. Although he was showing to the world of atheists that he > hated God, in his heart of hearts, there was an element of devotion. > It is said that he had a temple of Sri Rama in his house, and he was > propitiating Lord Rama secretly, conducting regular poojas etc, > employing a Brahmin Poojary. One cannot say he was adopting > " Samrambha-yoga " as he had really God enshrined in his mind and was > worshipping Him, although to the world, he was projecting himself as a > God-hater, to win cheap popularity among atheists. This is the purest > example of the preponderance of Tamo-guna in a person. > > These are some stray thoughts which occurred to my mind, while on the > subject of what Shri Ganapathy Raman referred to as Virodha-Bhakti > > Regards > KVG > > > > GANAPATHY RAMAN wrote: > > > Normally we used to hv bhakthy only in a positive aspect thereby > > making the Lord our soul refuge and surrender unto Him without > > reservations and spend our > > time in constant rememberance.But in this mysterious world we find > > that there is opposition to every aspect.eg.positive and negative,day > > and night,love and anger etc.So when we can hv loving bhakthy there > > also can be virodha bhakthy > > which is also another type of bhakthy.We consider that all bhakthy > > devotion must be characterised by love and consider hatred as the > > exact opposite of bhakthy.The virodha bhakthy can also be thought as > > Black whiteness.Yet it > > is a fact that devotion springs thru hatred also.That is why the term > > vyree bhakthy is in common use.The cases of Ravana,Kamsa,Hiranyakasipu > > are cited > > as instances of virodhi bhakthy.Several of us consider these cases as > > instances of violent poisonous hatred getting into a previously > > healthy loving system,which > > might hv naturally killed out all Love and Bhakthy except for the > > special Grace of > > God that checks the effects of the poison by strengthening the reserve > > power > > or power of revival of health that every organism possesses within > > certain limits. > > > > The hatred is no doubt poisonous but by divine grace the old Love is > > not destroyed but only temporarily clouded or muddled.Many consider > > hatred as > > negative electricity applied to one side of the jivas producing by > > induction the > > opposite of it viz.positive electricity or Love in another side.In > > Srimad Bhagavata > > VII Skanda,Chapter I verses 25 to 30 the main point covered is let the > > mind be > > covered by hatred or devotion or fear or friendship or even by > > lust,but somehow it > > must be directed towards Godward so as not to be diverted to other > > things.The > > worm shut up in the bee's closed earthern cell constantly thinks of > > the bee in > > terror and thereby turns into a bee.Persons who hv by hatred of the > > Lord Krishna > > who masquerades as a man purified themselves of Sin and attain > > Him.Many hv > > reached His state by fixing their minds on Him thru > > lust,hatred,fear,friendship, > > or devotion and thus getting rid of their sins.By lust the gopis > > reached Him,by > > fear Kamsa,by hatred Sisupala,by kinship the Vrishnis and others by > > friendship and devotion.(the above are only synopsis of the verses 25 > > to 30). > > > > It shuld be noted that the term virodhi bhakthy is not used in any of > > these passages.What is used is vyra anubhanda or vyra yoga and this is > > contrasted > > with bhakthy.Evidently it must hv been perceived that it is absurd to > > call hatred > > by the name bhakthy.If even the name hatred is so repulsive,one may > > ask how > > does hatred serve take the soul to God.The answer is that it does not > > matter > > for what reason the mind is turned to God.Let it turn to God in > > violent anger > > or hatred or out of lust,it will be still in contact with God.And God > > is such a wonderful dynamo that it will absorb into itself all sorts > > of objects and convert them into itself.The hatred serves the purpose > > of intense concentration-a process that goes on intensifying itself > > and preventing any forgetfulness of God. > > The stories of Hiranya and Kamsa are classic examples.It is forgetting > > the God that forms the real danger.That is apathy,a barren state.If > > the mind is fired > > with hatred or anger with God,it is fascinated by God and has soon to > > surrender itself without itself knowing.Its fangs of hatred are soon > > steeped in Divine Love > > and become Love.It is like tender gallnut steeped in syrup or in like > > juice,which > > retains its form but loses its taste entirely.The old flavour if > > slightly retained, > > gives a variety and piquancy to the taste and increases its utility or > > attraction. > > So the secret of this so called vyree bhakthy is its being directed > > towards God > > with persistent and great violence carried to the point of fascination > > and surrender. > > > > Now the natural question arises is there any difference noticeable > > between this > > sort of hatred or irreverence for God and the ordinary forms of > > ungodliness or > > scoffing and disregard for God?The latter tend to degrade and may go > > on degrading the scoffer or sinner for a very long time.But the former > > on account of > > extra-ordinary and ever increasing violence must soon come to a > > stop.It is like > > a locust rushing at and getting destroyed in the flame.The hating ego > > rushes > > likewise into the dvine flame and is burnt up.It becomes part of the > > flame.The ego is purified of its hatred and becomes part and parcel of > > God.That is the real distinction between ordiary hatred and what is > > termed Virodha bhakthy.Let one > > angrily ask God why He takes a delight in tantalising a poor creature > > and when He proposes to put an end to the intolerable situation one is > > placed.If one has > > a metaphysical or introverted turn of mind,let him very earnestly > > examine what it > > is that he terms GOD ,what his Self and what other selves or > > things.Even this > > observation and analysis must be conducted with great persistence and > > earnestness and not in a half hearted way.Then sooner or later > > (according to the degree of his earnestness and his poorva punya,it > > may be}, he will perceive that > > there is only one substratum or essence underlying these three > > entities God, > > Self and Universe which may be termed Parameswar,Paramatman or > > Parabrahman.To attain this one must seek the company of Great souls > > especially when one's bhakthy has been upset.Satsang also gives relief > > when > > oher measures are not available or found useless.So whatever way God is > > remembered if the same is done without reservations the Reality dawns. > > > > Hare Krishna, > > > > agraman. > > > > ------ > > India Answers: Share what you know. 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Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Yes it is a true thing but what I hv read in magazines years back was that the late EVR worshipped Ganesa.Whether Sri Rama or Ganesa makes no difference.But he did worship and lot of people know that.His idea at that time was to turn the ire of the tamilnadu people to go against the Brahminism and his Dravida Party(original name) thrived on the platform of anti brahminism.This is not peculiar to EVR only.Even Annadurai during the close years when he was lying in death bed due to cancer,a man who was against Gods and brahmins used to take the prasadams from the various temples to ward off his illness though the same did not benefit him and he died.Same is the case with the late MGR who followed in the footsteps of EVR and Annadurai during his last years became an ardent devotee of Mukambikai and even donated his gold sward which was given to him by his fans for a film at Madurai,when he was suffering from renal failure.Karunanidhy is also of such type and a follower of superstition. I hv read in a magazine that when he was 75 or so the astrologers predicted bad time for him and suggested if he marries a woman then the ill effects from the planets would be wiped out and he did the same not by marrying a new woman but by tying the knot to his first wife again in a famous temple.So all these politicians preach no God when they come face to face with death the fear makes them to run after Him.Even the Communists are no exception and the chain is long.So the fear of death inculcates in them faith on God and till that time when they enjoy life in a cosy way they used to shout from roof top there is no God and years back the tamilians,a major portion were attracted by this new phenomenon.Periyar used to say as his slogan if you see a snake and brahmin kill the brahmin first.Such was their antipahy against brahmins though the trend has changed to a great extend now.So the fear of death is the greatest factor in their lives to turn towards God thereby bringing Glory to Iswara. Hare Krishna.krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote: Hare Krishna!Dear Sri.Gopalakrishnaji,I was shocked to read about the secret devotion of E.V. Ramaswamy Naicker. This ICON of Atheism and Anti-Brahamanism secretly worshipped Lord Rama at home and the pujas use to be done by a Brahmin Poojari !!!. My humble request to you is to give us more details of this shocking truth with supporting evidence (if any) in order to enable us to take to as many people as posssible . In this way we can save so many people who are still misguided by this king of cheats.Your humble servant Krishnadayaguruvayur , "K.V Gopalakrishna" <gopalakrishna.kv wrote:>> Shri. Ganapathy Raman and others,> Radhe Krishna!> > You are referring to the "Samrambha Yoga" or "Mode of Confrontation" > adopted by Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakasipu, Ravana, Kumbhakarna, Sisupala, > Dantavaktra, etc. In Krishnavatara itself, the cases of Putana, > Sakatasura, Aghasura etc., point to this mode of focusing the mind on > the Lord. All of them , it is said, received Salvation at the hands > of God, as their degree of hatred was so high, that they were thinking > of Hari *_all the time_*, considering him as enemy number oner with the > intention of killing him.> The story of the three pairs, Hiranyaksha-Hiranyakasipu, > Ravana-Kumbhakarna, and Sisupala-Dandavaktra were different, in the fact > that they were originally the Jaya-vijaya pair who had already attained > Saroopya with Lord Hari, and had incurred the curse of the Sanaka > brothers for ill-treating them. They regretted their action and prayed > to the Lord that they should be given the advantage of remembering Him > in whatever shape they were, and the Lord only suggested the mode of > "Confrontation" as a quick mode of returning to Him. They, in their > incarnations as the three pairs of Asuras, did not remember their > earlier relation with Sri Hari and they only knew to hate Him tooth and > nail. Their hatred was not half-hearted, but a total hatred, so that > they would do anything to kill Sri Hari. Their feeling towards God > cannot be termed "Virodha-bhakti", but only as "Samrambha - Yoga". > There was no element of Bhakti in their actions, and we cannot call it a > form of Bhakti. Bhakti involves love and devotion, and cannot come out > of hatred. We may say, "they focused their mind on the Lord all the > time, and they could not think of anything else other than ways and > means of killing Him." That is "Samrambha-yoga", which yields results > in Salvation in the same way or even better than real "Bhakti-yoga". > "Yena kenapi prakarena manah Krishne Prvesayet." It only finally > boils down to the fact that one should focus one's mind on Him _*all the > time*_ irrespective of the method employed. But in all cases, at the > last moment, the time of their spirit departing the body, they realised > their enemy as the Supreme One, which led to their emancipation, except > in the case of Hiranyaksha, Hiranyakasipu, Ravana and Kumbhakarna who > could not visualise the Lord as the Supreme Brahman, on account of the > fact that they were destined by process of the curse to have one more > birth as Asura.> > Take the case of a 20th century God-hater, E.V. Ramaswamy Naicker, for > instance. Although he was showing to the world of atheists that he > hated God, in his heart of hearts, there was an element of devotion. > It is said that he had a temple of Sri Rama in his house, and he was > propitiating Lord Rama secretly, conducting regular poojas etc, > employing a Brahmin Poojary. One cannot say he was adopting > "Samrambha-yoga" as he had really God enshrined in his mind and was > worshipping Him, although to the world, he was projecting himself as a > God-hater, to win cheap popularity among atheists. This is the purest > example of the preponderance of Tamo-guna in a person.> > These are some stray thoughts which occurred to my mind, while on the > subject of what Shri Ganapathy Raman referred to as Virodha-Bhakti> > Regards> KVG> > > > GANAPATHY RAMAN wrote:> > > Normally we used to hv bhakthy only in a positive aspect thereby > > making the Lord our soul refuge and surrender unto Him without > > reservations and spend our> > time in constant rememberance.But in this mysterious world we find > > that there is opposition to every aspect.eg.positive and negative,day > > and night,love and anger etc.So when we can hv loving bhakthy there > > also can be virodha bhakthy> > which is also another type of bhakthy.We consider that all bhakthy > > devotion must be characterised by love and consider hatred as the > > exact opposite of bhakthy.The virodha bhakthy can also be thought as > > Black whiteness.Yet it> > is a fact that devotion springs thru hatred also.That is why the term > > vyree bhakthy is in common use.The cases of Ravana,Kamsa,Hiranyakasipu > > are cited> > as instances of virodhi bhakthy.Several of us consider these cases as > > instances of violent poisonous hatred getting into a previously > > healthy loving system,which> > might hv naturally killed out all Love and Bhakthy except for the > > special Grace of> > God that checks the effects of the poison by strengthening the reserve > > power> > or power of revival of health that every organism possesses within > > certain limits.> > > > The hatred is no doubt poisonous but by divine grace the old Love is > > not destroyed but only temporarily clouded or muddled.Many consider > > hatred as> > negative electricity applied to one side of the jivas producing by > > induction the> > opposite of it viz.positive electricity or Love in another side.In > > Srimad Bhagavata> > VII Skanda,Chapter I verses 25 to 30 the main point covered is let the > > mind be> > covered by hatred or devotion or fear or friendship or even by > > lust,but somehow it> > must be directed towards Godward so as not to be diverted to other > > things.The> > worm shut up in the bee's closed earthern cell constantly thinks of > > the bee in> > terror and thereby turns into a bee.Persons who hv by hatred of the > > Lord Krishna> > who masquerades as a man purified themselves of Sin and attain > > Him.Many hv> > reached His state by fixing their minds on Him thru > > lust,hatred,fear,friendship,> > or devotion and thus getting rid of their sins.By lust the gopis > > reached Him,by> > fear Kamsa,by hatred Sisupala,by kinship the Vrishnis and others by > > friendship and devotion.(the above are only synopsis of the verses 25 > > to 30).> > > > It shuld be noted that the term virodhi bhakthy is not used in any of > > these passages.What is used is vyra anubhanda or vyra yoga and this is > > contrasted> > with bhakthy.Evidently it must hv been perceived that it is absurd to > > call hatred> > by the name bhakthy.If even the name hatred is so repulsive,one may > > ask how> > does hatred serve take the soul to God.The answer is that it does not > > matter> > for what reason the mind is turned to God.Let it turn to God in > > violent anger> > or hatred or out of lust,it will be still in contact with God.And God > > is such a wonderful dynamo that it will absorb into itself all sorts > > of objects and convert them into itself.The hatred serves the purpose > > of intense concentration-a process that goes on intensifying itself > > and preventing any forgetfulness of God.> > The stories of Hiranya and Kamsa are classic examples.It is forgetting > > the God that forms the real danger.That is apathy,a barren state.If > > the mind is fired> > with hatred or anger with God,it is fascinated by God and has soon to > > surrender itself without itself knowing.Its fangs of hatred are soon > > steeped in Divine Love> > and become Love.It is like tender gallnut steeped in syrup or in like > > juice,which> > retains its form but loses its taste entirely.The old flavour if > > slightly retained,> > gives a variety and piquancy to the taste and increases its utility or > > attraction.> > So the secret of this so called vyree bhakthy is its being directed > > towards God> > with persistent and great violence carried to the point of fascination > > and surrender.> > > > Now the natural question arises is there any difference noticeable > > between this> > sort of hatred or irreverence for God and the ordinary forms of > > ungodliness or> > scoffing and disregard for God?The latter tend to degrade and may go > > on degrading the scoffer or sinner for a very long time.But the former > > on account of> > extra-ordinary and ever increasing violence must soon come to a > > stop.It is like> > a locust rushing at and getting destroyed in the flame.The hating ego > > rushes> > likewise into the dvine flame and is burnt up.It becomes part of the > > flame.The ego is purified of its hatred and becomes part and parcel of > > God.That is the real distinction between ordiary hatred and what is > > termed Virodha bhakthy.Let one> > angrily ask God why He takes a delight in tantalising a poor creature > > and when He proposes to put an end to the intolerable situation one is > > placed.If one has> > a metaphysical or introverted turn of mind,let him very earnestly > > examine what it> > is that he terms GOD ,what his Self and what other selves or > > things.Even this> > observation and analysis must be conducted with great persistence and> > earnestness and not in a half hearted way.Then sooner or later > > (according to the degree of his earnestness and his poorva punya,it > > may be}, he will perceive that> > there is only one substratum or essence underlying these three > > entities God,> > Self and Universe which may be termed Parameswar,Paramatman or > > Parabrahman.To attain this one must seek the company of Great souls > > especially when one's bhakthy has been upset.Satsang also gives relief > > when> > oher measures are not available or found useless.So whatever way God is> > remembered if the same is done without reservations the Reality dawns.> > > > Hare Krishna,> > > > agraman.> >> > -------------------------------> > India Answers: Share what you know. 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