Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Ohm Narayanaya Namah I was silent but not quite quiet like Induji whose postings used to appear frequently but missing in the recent past. I was busy myself writing Ohm Narayanaya Namah one lakh and one time in Malayalam since Meda masam. This is my third successful attempt and without Lord Guruvayoorappan's blessings I would not have done that. My father did it once in his life time and I am enjoying the fruits of it. I have had a glance of every issue of Navaneetham since April but yet to go deep and read thoroughly. I have no words in my vocabulary – which is very limited- and my silence speaks volumes. It is appropriate to end this brief note with a stanza that I do not know the author, for whom it is written, or the context. Learned people like KVG, GanapathyRaman, Balagopal, Vinod or Dr. Sukumar or Sunil may have some information about that. I am like a THARI - a small particle- amidst the tall PILLARS but I am lucky to be a part of this Great group. Kindly enlighten me. Mookam karothi vachalam Pankum lankayethe girim Yad kripa thamaham vande Paramananda Madhavam Ohm Narayanaya Namah Chandra Sekharan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Dear shri Chandra Sekharan Menon, Om Namo Narayanaya, I was quite wonderstruck with your mission of writing the Lord's name one lakh and one time. i am actually curious and would really like to know in detail how you get around doing this and is it thereafter offered to a temple? Could you please enlighten us with the procedure? Humbly, jayashree guruvayur , " Chandra Sekharan Menon " <chandrasmenon2002 wrote: > > Ohm Narayanaya Namah > > I was silent but not quite quiet like Induji whose postings used to > appear frequently but missing in the recent past. I was busy myself > writing Ohm Narayanaya Namah one lakh and one time in Malayalam > since Meda masam. This is my third successful attempt and without > Lord Guruvayoorappan's blessings I would not have done that. My > father did it once in his life time and I am enjoying the fruits of > it. > > I have had a glance of every issue of Navaneetham since April but > yet to go deep and read thoroughly. I have no words in my > vocabulary – which is very limited- and my silence speaks volumes. > > It is appropriate to end this brief note with a stanza that I do not > know the author, for whom it is written, or the context. Learned > people like KVG, GanapathyRaman, Balagopal, Vinod or Dr. Sukumar or > Sunil may have some information about that. I am like a THARI - a > small particle- amidst the tall PILLARS but I am lucky to be a part > of this Great group. Kindly enlighten me. > > Mookam karothi vachalam > Pankum lankayethe girim > Yad kripa thamaham vande > Paramananda Madhavam > > Ohm Narayanaya Namah > Chandra Sekharan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Om Namo Narayanaya! Shri Ganapathy Ramanji, Please can you kindly guide us as to what we can do in addition to Nama Samkirtanam for GOD realisation. guruvayur , Syamala Nair <syamalaraghunath wrote: > > Dear Shri Ganapathy Ramanji > > Thank you for the mail. > > First of all let me with all frankess inform you that I did not feel anything bad about your statement. Infact I am happy that I have been corrected where I am wrong . You have correctly said, I did not understand the subject properly. I focused my attention only on the benefits of nama japam and was all the more eager to share my experience with the group . I just overlooked the fact about God realisation for which one has to take mantra from a " Guru " and is a thorny path and is not that easy. > > Thank you for drawing my attention to this and I accept your comments/clarification in very good spirit and value your comments. > > Await much more such information from members like you > > Sincerely > Syamala > GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote: > Dear Syamala, > > It is really appreciable that your faith and bhakthy helped you in getting your illness cured.However I am afraid that you hv not properly studied the subject > which I wrote.As you,yourself have said that I hv stressed nama japa as the > foundation for spiritual advancement.I dealt a subject abt God Realization and not the merits of nama japa and hence I emphasised that nama japa alone won't > take one in the higher dimensions of spiritualism.I think there is some confusion > in your reading what I hv written.As we don't hv much idea abt the earlier yugas except from puranas it is my view that blaming Kali yuga alone is not a correct > approach.Even during the earlier yugas there were weapons of mass destruction like so many astras and many were adept in using the same.So too there were many medicines though not in the form of tablets but from nature given plants for > getting illness cured which they adopted.As we hv wars and other things in earlier yugas all those things were there and jealousy, interest in expanding empire were there even in those times.Sure in those times they had plenty of time for doing yagas and other things but that did not prevent the evil forces from > disturbing them also.So what we hv now is that all those things are in a new shape.That is all.Even with plenty of time available they could not develop much the countries but spent the time in scheming and other things and we hv no idea abt the common people except the rulers and their machinations.Now those things are there for our own vision.While in those times many things were done thru mantras now all are done by scientific development.So the status quo > is always there and only the methods hv changed. > Anyways your mail is commendable for your experiences.Regarding tulsi leaves > even now in almost all vishnu temples they give the same as theertham as tulsi leaves hv got great effect in relieving many illness and that is why we worship tulsi more than other plants.So there is no point in blaming kali yuga for all the ills as the same were common in the earlier yugas also.As we depend for those things some puranas we take the same as granted.Lord Krishna who in His time was considered as a super magician is now regarded as God.So too as time goes by what people we say magicians may become God.It is only Time that decides everything.I appreciate your reply and if you could understand what I hv written then perhaps you may agree to some extent.That is your privilege and I hv nothing to say and this I hv written not as a rebuttal of your belief but only as a clarificatory statement.Hope you will take this in good spirits.Such comments will only enhance the maturity of the Group I believe, and in this you hv done a good job.God Bless. > > Hare Krishna, > > agraman. > > > > > Syamala Nair <syamalaraghunath wrote: > Dear Shri Ganapathy Ramanjai > > My knowledge in this is very much limited. I also agree with Shri Ganapathy Ramanji that only nama japam is not sufficient but ofcourse nama japam is a must. In the Bhagavatham, Bhagawan mentioned how he can be worshiped at the four yugas. For Kaliyuga, it is mentioned Nama Sankeertanam. According to me during Satyuga, Tretayuga and Dwapara Yuga, people had time to do the tapa, dhyanam, yangam etc., as there were nothing much to distract their attention. However, in Kaliyuga, God knew , people willl never be able to do all the above as circumstances will be such and at times will even forget that one super power is there. May be because of that it is said nama sankeertanam will give the same benefit of other yangas done in other yugas. Nama japam can be done anywhere and everywhere. Thus mankind will take HIS name atleast once in a while in the busy schedule of life and he can guide such people in the right direction. > > However, my firm belief is that nama japam can do miracles in curing diseases. Sincere prayer always have more value than medicine. We all know how Shri Melpathurji got cured of his vata rogam. > > Last year, I had boils all over my body. I took medicine, but there was no improvement. Finallly I decided to do archana for Guruvayoorappan with tulsi leaves every day chanting some slokas and also reciting " roga hara Shri Guruvayoor stotram " ( from Agre Pashyami - a publication of Giri Trading). Also I started keeping water in kindi and after archana pick up some tulsi leaves and put in the water. Next day morning I drink that water and also take the smell of the tulsi leaves lying at HIS feet. This I did after saying " This is my sidhaushadam and I have no other solace except HIM " . No one will believe. It worked. Now I am free from this, but even today I continue doing the archana and drinking the teertham with all humility. > > A humble devotee > Syamala > > GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote: > I agree with you Balagopal.There is a general trend that whatever happens that are bad it is becozof Kali Yuga as if nothing had happened in the earlier yugas.But even from Puranas which form the foundation of the happenings of the > earlier yugas there were all sorts of evil things like war,jealousy,lust,anger, > mutual distrust,scheming etc and why shuld we blame Kali Yuga only,I am still > unable to fathom.It is also true that the learned people had said that Nama sankeertan is sufficient in Kali Yuga.How can they know that?Is it possible to > spend the full day doing Nama sankeertan.That is way away from tangent of > pragmatism.In fact in Kali Yuga more things are done good also due to the > development of all fields and prosperity of mankind in general.Poverty,illiteracy and all such things are not the property of Kali Yuga only and the same were there even earlier yugas.So blaming everything ill as due to Kali yuga carries no > weight.We hv been trained from our childhood in such a way without allowing > independent thinking and just repeating the old puranas of the earlier yugas when milk and honey were supposed to flow contrary to facts.So instead of blaming this yuga for anything and everything man must strive to develop him > first and not to buckle under the theory of all ills are due to Kali Yuga. > > Of course nama smaran is only one of the ways for development of bhakthy and that alone won't lead to the finall consummation as ignorantly thought as the > process in this are not properly understood and can't be understood from our > present state of evolutionary aspects and hence it is advised by the great people just say nama for all the ills as one teaches a child in the KG class.But when the child grows and reaches post graduation level still lingering on the subject of > KG class,will not that look funny?The foundation is built in KG class and it is for the child to develop its knowledge by studying various other subjects and then only progress comes even in material world and then there is no necessity to talk abt the spiritual world which is not for all to access and only highy qualified > souls can reach that and just by thinking by doing simply nama smarana all can be achieved in spirtual world shows only some misguided perceptions.Then why the great people said that?It is only to develop the individual soul to develop by starting somewhere as advanced teachings can't be understood and so just for beginners the same were taught.So by saying nama smarana alone nobody is going to get any God realisation.To counter this some people like Thyagaraya and others can be quoted.But they left eveything and spent the full time doing nama japa.Can anybody do the same now in the present day world without thinking abt other commitments?So too much need not be studied abt nama japa alone as a panacea for all illness.Nama japa is only one of the ways of developing bhakthy but that alone won't make reach Godhood as one thinks.It is always heartening to think abt Realisation but what is that nobody can answer as the path is very arduous and just by reading some texts > nothing can be proceeded with uness more practical,experiences are there which alone can make one understand the subjects and that requires so many things which had been repeated by me umpteen times and hence no more repetition is required. > This does not confer as if a I am a great soul and on the verge of Realisation which may take several births but I say this with my acquaintances with some Realised souls and after hearing their experiences which unfortunately I hv not been able to enjoy so far though occasionally some glimpses can be seen.That is all.Hence my conclusion that spiritualism is a thorny way and one can succeed only thru the Grace of Guru and vigorous practices.As I always say this is only my views and there may be better souls who hv greater experiences and > knowledge and sometimes they may be right in their own ways.So my belief > that bookish knowledge and writings can be made by anybody by learning but to enter the domain is not as easy as one thinks or imagines.Then what is the alternative?One has to put his foundation strong like nama japa,and other things before embarking on higher courses and never imagine that nama japa alone will lead one to Moksha,a concept which nobody can define except > Realised sages.Other things are only stories good for reading like fairy tales.I > am not for controversy on this as all hv their own views but just touched what I felt. > > Hare Krishna. > > > > > balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote: > HARI AUM > > Thinking of it, this 'only chanting of names' is ONLY > a way out when one is short of all other avenues to > seek HIM. > > I think as soon as we acquire the habit of chanting > his name, which shall be done 24*7 while engaging in > all other activities of life, one is also supposed to > proceed further into the realm of KNOWLEDGE (Jnana)to > dispel the darknened ignorance and realise the self. > > With just namsankeertan one can build a bed but will > benefit more if the water of knowledge is allowed to > flow thru irrigating the humanity as a whole. > > Welcoming more on this from our members. > > Regards > > Balagopal > > NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA > > --- vinita manikantan <vinitamanikantan > wrote: > > > > > Dear Chandrasekharan Nairji and Jayashreeji > > > > I wish to add some thing more on your discussion. > > > > we are living in the age of Kali, called Kaliyuga. > > > > In other yugas, the yuga-dharma (process of > > self-realization for the age) is much more > > difficult. > > For example, in the satya-yuga, the yuga-dharma is > > ashtanga-yoga. People would have to live alone in > > the > > forests and engage in severe austerities and > > meditation for thousands of years to come to the > > platform of self-realization. Such a process is > > difficult even in the exalted age of satya-yuga. In > > the kali-yuga the Lord gives us one very special > > benediction. Since we have lost all good qualities, > > and since we have no proper qualification, the Lord > > gives us the simplest and quickest method for > > self-realization - chanting His holy names. > > > > harer nama harer nama > > harer namaiva kevalam > > kalau nastyeva nastyeva > > nastyeva gatir anyatha > > > > " In the age of Kali there is no other way to attain > > the supreme destination of life except the chanting > > of > > the names of Sri Hari. There is no other way, no > > other > > way, no other way. " > > > > i wish to add some thing about Kaliyuga and kaliyuga > > Dharma > > > > Pleas read more > > > > Your Servant > > > > Vinita Manikantan > > > > Of all the yugas the Kali-yuga has been described in > > the shastras as the worst. The Bhagavata Purana > > describes and defines the qualities of Kali-yuga as > > follows: > > > > yada mayanritam tandra > > nidra himsa vishadanam > > shoka-mohau bhayam dainyam > > sa kalis tamasah smritah > > > > " When there is a predominance of cheating, lying, > > sloth, sleepiness, violence, depression, > > lamentation, > > bewilderment, fear and poverty, that age is Kali, > > the > > age of the mode of ignorance. " > > > > Why these qualities develop is further explained: > > > > prayena martya bhagavantam acyutam > > yakshyanti pashanda-vibhinna-cetasah > > > > " In the Kali-yuga the human beings will not offer > > sacrifice to God because their intelligence will be > > diverted by atheism. " > > > > dharmam vakshyanty adharma-jna > > adhiruhyottamasanam > > > > " Those who know nothing about religion will mount a > > high seat and presume to speak on religious > > principles. " > > > > vedah pashanda-dushitah > > > > " The Vedas will be contaminated by the speculative > > interpretations of atheists. " > > > > Thus with the degradation of religion, and the rise > > of > > atheistic thought, all sacrifice to God will be > > stopped. Human life is unique among all forms of > > life > > in that it alone offers the opportunity for > > spiritual > > advancement. Due to the fully blossomed mental > > faculties, the human is able to inquire into the > > source of everything, the absolute truth. Without > > this > > inquiry, the human being is essentially no better > > than > > a common animal. The scriptures describe such people > > as dvi-pada pashu, or " two legged animals " ). Thus > > such > > a society without spiritual endeavour is nothing > > more > > than an animalistic society of cats and dogs. Among > > the cats and dogs we do not expect there to be peace > > and harmony. Likewise, when human beings live in > > animalistic consciousness, we cannot expect there to > > be any peace in the society - there will be only war > > (kalih). Thus the situation becomes the " age of > > war " , > > or kali-yuga. > > > > Some of the other qualities of the age are described > > as follows: > > > > na rakshishyanti manujah > > sthavirau pitarav api > > > > " Men will no longer protect their elderly parents. " > > > > durbiksha-kara-karshitah > > > > " The people will become emaciated by famine and > > taxation. " > > > > nityam udvigna-manaso > > > > " Their minds will constantly be disturbed and > > agitated. " > > > > rajanash ca praja-bhakshah > > > > " The politicians will virtually eat their citizens. " > > > > dasyutkrishta janapada > > > > " The cities will be dominated by theives. " > > > > vittam eva kalau nrinam > > janmacara-gunodayah > > dharma-nyay-vyavasthayam > > karanam balam eva hi > > > > " In the Kali-yuga, wealth alone will be considered > > the > > sign of a man's good birth, proper behaviour and > > fine > > qualities. And law and justice will be applied only > > on > > the basis of one's power. " > > > > vipratve sutram eva hi > > > > " One will be known as a brahmana simply by wearing a > > thread (not by one's qualities or knowledge). " > > > > tatash canu-dinam dharmah > > satyam shaucam kshama daya > > kalena balina rajan > > nankshyaty ayur balam smritih > > > > " Truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, > > duration > > of life, physical strength and memory will all > > diminish day by day because of the powerful > > influence > > of the age of Kali. " > > > > The four yugas (satya, treta, dvapara, and kali) > > rotate like seasons. Just as certain seasons have > > particular qualities (summer is hot, winter is > > cold), > > so each cosmic age has particular qualities. In the > > Satya yuga (the age of truth) the entire population > > is > > religious and self-satisfied. Their aim is only self > > realization. All of the godly qualities are present > > in > > the Satya yuga. > > > > Due to the influence of time, all things degrade and > > decay. Thus as the age passes from Satya-yuga to > > Treta-yuga, the subtle qualities of people degrade, > > and thus there is a loss of truthfullness, > > austerity, > > mercy, etc. As the time passes from one age to the > > next, one quarter of all good qualities and religion > > are lost. Thus as the Treta-yuga begins, only 75% of > > the people are interested in spiritual activities. > > Then as the Dvapara-yuga begins, only 50% of the > > population is interested in God consciousness. > > Finally > > as the Kali-yuga begins, only 25% of the population > > is > > interested in religion, and this number gradually > > reduces to zero, at which time the Lord incarnates > > as > > the Kalki avatara to put an end to the Kali yuga and > > bring about a new cosmic cycle of time beginning > > again > > with the Satya-yuga. > > > > Just as the good qualities of the people degrade, in > > the same way their life spans also decrease from age > > > === message truncated === > > > ________ > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > http://in.answers./ > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. 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