[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Udayasthamana puja-white paper

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Hare Krishna,

 

Most of the points mentioned is right. what But here I would like to give my thought about it. Every our Opinion and suggestion should be purely with devotion to the kannan. These things should not be any Superiority or Inferiority complex, Ego issue, any such complex feeling or shouldn't,t effect anybody feelings . Just pure love to God we are making an effort to serve Kannan in a humble way. But it should have some Impact on the mind set on them..

 

It should be presented to the Guruvayoor committee on right time and right person on behalf of our group.

 

With Love,

Sree

 

 

balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpalgvr <guruvayur >Monday, 28 August, 2006 5:50:28 PM[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Udayasthamana puja-white paper

 

HARI AUMShree Sunil's suggestion to prepare a white paper onthe recent changes envisaged by the Devaswom onmatters relating to the number of Udayasthamana Pujathat shall conducted on a single day is commendable.Long and lenghty memos may not be read, instead willcollect dust .One option is to collect the opinions thru'attachments and copy them into and send as one file.Alternatively the members as a whole is represented bythe Group and the suggestions are presented in aconcise form with the names of the signatories (ifnecessary).I am giving below the concise form of the suggestionsmade by our various members.The points noted below may not be conclusive. Those ofyou whose raised points and are not mentioned hereshall include the same.If any new ideas come to the mind please do place thesame also.I suggest that the matter shall be copy and pasted anddo the

editing.Once we feel that the same is presentable, we can sendthe same to the authorities . Alternatively if allfeel that all the points noted are one way or theother seems to be their opinion, all can join assignatories and the same send to the authorities.Collectively the points are:1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final2. Administarion shall not interefere in mattersrelated to the Puja vidhi.3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainlynecessary but the same shall be done without making ita money spinnner for the Devaswom.4. The above point is supported as-the cost of thePuja remaining the same the participants shall bebenefitted by way of dividing the total cost amongthemeselves.5.The matter shall be widely discussed .6.The matter should be put before those persons whoare in the know how of things like Tantri and otherlearned persons of the State. 7.It is also

suggested that public opinions be soughtbefore taking major decisions on such sensitivematters.8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and thetemple should be run as per the rituals prescribed byShree Adi Sankaracharya.Soliciting the cooperation of all members.We shall proceed as we hear from all of you.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANAPS:Also the members may be directed to send theiropinions directly to the Devaswom e-mail id. Whiledoing so they shall refer this Group to which theybelong and from whom the directions were received.Or the posting received in this forum shall be simplyforwarded to Devaswom for with a request forconsiderations. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers. /

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Hari OM!

 

Why should there be an Administration at all controlled by government that is purely for the

political gains and to make money for the politicians.

 

all these days Guruvayur and Sabarimala temple was functioning with out any controversy

now suddenly why? there is a hidden agenda of evangalisation of India in this.

 

If Hindu temples are ruled by Government appointed bodies the so called Administration.

why there is no bodies for Christian churches and Muslim Mosques? because of vote bank

and for the KUZHAL Panam from abroad?

 

Hindus when we will learn? I think never, still we are tolerant for what, to make Kerala majority

of Christians? think about Ammini Ammas story respected member posted.

 

Hare Gurupavanapuresa! Saranam

 

With Love & OM!

 

Krishna Prasad

On 8/28/06, balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

HARI AUMShree Sunil's suggestion to prepare a white paper onthe recent changes envisaged by the Devaswom onmatters relating to the number of Udayasthamana Pujathat shall conducted on a single day is commendable.

Long and lenghty memos may not be read, instead willcollect dust .One option is to collect the opinions thru'attachments and copy them into and send as one file.Alternatively the members as a whole is represented by

the Group and the suggestions are presented in aconcise form with the names of the signatories (ifnecessary).I am giving below the concise form of the suggestionsmade by our various members.

The points noted below may not be conclusive. Those ofyou whose raised points and are not mentioned hereshall include the same.If any new ideas come to the mind please do place thesame also.I suggest that the matter shall be copy and pasted and

do the editing.Once we feel that the same is presentable, we can sendthe same to the authorities . Alternatively if allfeel that all the points noted are one way or theother seems to be their opinion, all can join as

signatories and the same send to the authorities.Collectively the points are:1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final2. Administarion shall not interefere in mattersrelated to the Puja vidhi.

3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainlynecessary but the same shall be done without making ita money spinnner for the Devaswom.4. The above point is supported as-the cost of thePuja remaining the same the participants shall be

benefitted by way of dividing the total cost amongthemeselves.5.The matter shall be widely discussed .6.The matter should be put before those persons whoare in the know how of things like Tantri and other

learned persons of the State. 7.It is also suggested that public opinions be soughtbefore taking major decisions on such sensitivematters.8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and thetemple should be run as per the rituals prescribed by

Shree Adi Sankaracharya.Soliciting the cooperation of all members.We shall proceed as we hear from all of you.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANAPS:Also the members may be directed to send their

opinions directly to the Devaswom e-mail id. Whiledoing so they shall refer this Group to which theybelong and from whom the directions were received.Or the posting received in this forum shall be simply

forwarded to Devaswom for with a request forconsiderations. ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new

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Dear all,

Radhe Krishna!

Does anybody in this group remember that there was an incident where

the treasure of the Sri Padmanabha Swamy temple was laid hands upon by

somebody, and as a consequence, something untoward happened. This

must have been around 1947-48 when I was a boy doing my Intermediate in

Trivandrum. I have a very faint remembrance that somebody attempted

to break open the treasure-house situated at the basement and found

that serpants were guarding the treasure. Either the serpants were

killed and the treasure taken or they gave up the attempt. If anybody

remembers, kindly post the description of that incident.

 

Likewise, will Guruvayoorappan permit the misuse of His funds by

politicians? And will anybody have the guts to rob the temple of the

funds? Might be, I am asking a very fundamental question because of

my ignorance of the present day world? I hope somebody from the

group responds to me with a plausible answer!

 

With love to the Guruvayoorappan devotees,

K.V. Gopalakrishna.

 

Krishna Prasad wrote:

 

 

Hari OM!

 

Why should there be an Administration at all controlled by

government that is purely for the

political gains and to make money for the politicians.

 

all these days Guruvayur and Sabarimala temple was functioning

with out any controversy

now suddenly why? there is a hidden agenda of evangalisation of

India in this.

 

If Hindu temples are ruled by Government appointed bodies the so

called Administration.

why there is no bodies for Christian churches and Muslim

Mosques? because of vote bank

and for the KUZHAL Panam from abroad?

 

Hindus when we will learn? I think never, still we are tolerant

for what, to make Kerala majority

of Christians? think about Ammini Ammas story respected member

posted.

 

Hare Gurupavanapuresa! Saranam

 

With Love & OM!

 

Krishna Prasad

 

 

On 8/28/06, balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

HARI AUM

 

Shree Sunil's suggestion to prepare a white paper on

the recent changes envisaged by the Devaswom on

matters relating to the number of Udayasthamana Puja

that shall conducted on a single day is commendable.

 

 

Long and lenghty memos may not be read, instead will

collect dust .

 

One option is to collect the opinions thru'

attachments and copy them into and send as one file.

 

Alternatively the members as a whole is represented by

 

the Group and the suggestions are presented in a

concise form with the names of the signatories (if

necessary).

 

I am giving below the concise form of the suggestions

made by our various members.

 

The points noted below may not be conclusive. Those of

you whose raised points and are not mentioned here

shall include the same.

 

If any new ideas come to the mind please do place the

same also.

 

I suggest that the matter shall be copy and pasted and

 

do the editing.

 

Once we feel that the same is presentable, we can send

the same to the authorities . Alternatively if all

feel that all the points noted are one way or the

other seems to be their opinion, all can join as

 

signatories and the same send to the authorities.

 

Collectively the points are:

 

1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final

2. Administarion shall not interefere in matters

related to the Puja vidhi.

 

3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainly

necessary but the same shall be done without making it

a money spinnner for the Devaswom.

4. The above point is supported as-the cost of the

Puja remaining the same the participants shall be

 

benefitted by way of dividing the total cost among

themeselves.

5.The matter shall be widely discussed .

6.The matter should be put before those persons who

are in the know how of things like Tantri and other

 

learned persons of the State.

7.It is also suggested that public opinions be sought

before taking major decisions on such sensitive

matters.

8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and the

temple should be run as per the rituals prescribed by

 

Shree Adi Sankaracharya.

 

Soliciting the cooperation of all members.

 

We shall proceed as we hear from all of you.

 

Regards

 

Balagopal

 

NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA

 

PS:Also the members may be directed to send their

 

opinions directly to the Devaswom e-mail id. While

doing so they shall refer this Group to which they

belong and from whom the directions were received.

 

Or the posting received in this forum shall be simply

 

forwarded to Devaswom for with a request for

considerations.

 

 

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If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the fullest.

 

As Poojya Gurudev said it,

 

"Open your eyes. Burst your shell.

Spread your wings and fly!"

 

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Hate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin even with

an excess of hatred."

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Dear all,

Radhe Krishna!

 

Ideas all well-taken by me and we are proceeding in the right

direction. But I wish a representative group meets each one of the

members of the Devaswom Board separately and try to convince each one

of them before presenting a paper or meeting the President of the

Board. What I mean to say is that there should be sufficient lobbying

before presenting the actual paper.

 

Love to all Guruvayoor Bhaktas,

K.V. Gopalakrishna

 

sreedhar c.p wrote:

 

 

 

Hare Krishna,

 

Most of the points mentioned is right. what But here I

would like to give my thought about it. Every our Opinion and

suggestion should be purely with devotion to the kannan. These things

should not be any Superiority or Inferiority complex, Ego issue, any

such complex feeling or shouldn't,t effect anybody feelings . Just pure

love to God we are making an effort to serve Kannan in a humble way.

But it should have some Impact on the mind set on them..

 

It should be presented to the Guruvayoor committee on

right time and right person on behalf of our group.

 

With Love,

Sree

 

 

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balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in>

gvr <guruvayur >

Monday, 28 August, 2006 5:50:28 PM

[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Udayasthamana puja-white paper

 

 

HARI AUM

 

Shree Sunil's suggestion to prepare a white paper on

the recent changes envisaged by the Devaswom on

matters relating to the number of Udayasthamana Puja

that shall conducted on a single day is commendable.

 

Long and lenghty memos may not be read, instead will

collect dust .

 

One option is to collect the opinions thru'

attachments and copy them into and send as one file.

 

Alternatively the members as a whole is represented by

the Group and the suggestions are presented in a

concise form with the names of the signatories (if

necessary).

 

I am giving below the concise form of the suggestions

made by our various members.

 

The points noted below may not be conclusive. Those of

you whose raised points and are not mentioned here

shall include the same.

 

If any new ideas come to the mind please do place the

same also.

 

I suggest that the matter shall be copy and pasted and

do the editing.

 

Once we feel that the same is presentable, we can send

the same to the authorities . Alternatively if all

feel that all the points noted are one way or the

other seems to be their opinion, all can join as

signatories and the same send to the authorities.

 

Collectively the points are:

 

1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final

2. Administarion shall not interefere in matters

related to the Puja vidhi.

3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainly

necessary but the same shall be done without making it

a money spinnner for the Devaswom.

4. The above point is supported as-the cost of the

Puja remaining the same the participants shall be

benefitted by way of dividing the total cost among

themeselves.

5.The matter shall be widely discussed .

6.The matter should be put before those persons who

are in the know how of things like Tantri and other

learned persons of the State.

7.It is also suggested that public opinions be sought

before taking major decisions on such sensitive

matters.

8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and the

temple should be run as per the rituals prescribed by

Shree Adi Sankaracharya.

 

Soliciting the cooperation of all members.

 

We shall proceed as we hear from all of you.

 

Regards

 

Balagopal

 

NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA

 

PS:Also the members may be directed to send their

opinions directly to the Devaswom e-mail id. While

doing so they shall refer this Group to which they

belong and from whom the directions were received.

 

Or the posting received in this forum shall be simply

forwarded to Devaswom for with a request for

considerations.

 

 

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Ohm Narayanaya Namah The creation of a Devaswom -Deivathinte Swontham- board in my faint memory was started in the Malabar area with the intention of keeping the funds to the particular Kshethram and its maintenance only. Later many Devaswoms merged together or forced by the so called politicians to bring under one umbrella, to make more money for their self interest. Or else how one can be a Communist - who does not believe in God- needs the funds from the Kshethram? The same Devaswom is now spelt differently like Devasom by many. I hope it will not be changed to a Devasavam or Devasaapam Board? Like Krishnaprasad said why not all the places of worship be brought under the same Devasom ministry including the Churches and mosques etc.? if not acceptable then dismantle the so called Devasom ministry completely and leave it to its devotees. Any comments? Ohm Narayanaya Namah Chandra

Sekharan Menon Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 wrote: Hari OM! Why should there be an Administration at all controlled by government that is purely for the political gains and to make money for the politicians. all these days Guruvayur and Sabarimala temple was functioning with out any controversy now suddenly why? there is a hidden agenda of evangalisation of India in this. If Hindu temples are ruled by Government appointed bodies the so called Administration. why there is no bodies for Christian churches and Muslim Mosques? because of vote bank and for the KUZHAL Panam from abroad? Hindus when we will learn? I think never, still we are tolerant for what, to make Kerala majority of Christians? think about Ammini Ammas story respected member posted. Hare Gurupavanapuresa! Saranam With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 8/28/06, balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: HARI AUMShree Sunil's suggestion to prepare a white paper onthe recent changes envisaged by the Devaswom onmatters relating to the number of Udayasthamana Pujathat shall conducted on a single day is commendable. Long and lenghty memos may not be read, instead willcollect dust .One option is to collect the opinions thru'attachments and copy them into and send as one file.Alternatively the members as a whole is represented by the Group and the suggestions are presented in aconcise form with the names of the signatories (ifnecessary).I am giving below the concise form of the suggestionsmade by our various members.The points noted below may not be conclusive. Those ofyou whose raised points and are not mentioned hereshall include the same.If any new ideas come to the mind please do place thesame also.I suggest that the matter shall be copy and pasted and do

the editing.Once we feel that the same is presentable, we can sendthe same to the authorities . Alternatively if allfeel that all the points noted are one way or theother seems to be their opinion, all can join as signatories and the same send to the authorities.Collectively the points are:1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final2. Administarion shall not interefere in mattersrelated to the Puja vidhi. 3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainlynecessary but the same shall be done without making ita money spinnner for the Devaswom.4. The above point is supported as-the cost of thePuja remaining the same the participants shall be benefitted by way of dividing the total cost amongthemeselves.5.The matter shall be widely discussed .6.The matter should be put before those persons whoare in the know how of things like Tantri and other learned persons of the State. 7.It

is also suggested that public opinions be soughtbefore taking major decisions on such sensitivematters.8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and thetemple should be run as per the rituals prescribed by Shree Adi Sankaracharya.Soliciting the cooperation of all members.We shall proceed as we hear from all of you.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANAPS:Also the members may be directed to send their opinions directly to the Devaswom e-mail id. Whiledoing so they shall refer this Group to which theybelong and from whom the directions were received.Or the posting received in this forum shall be simply forwarded to Devaswom for with a request forconsiderations. ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers./-- dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in .Org domain Nemes for just 2.5 USDKrishna PrasadDare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into the 'unknown' The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do not know. If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the fullest. As Poojya Gurudev said it, "Open your eyes. Burst your shell. Spread your wings and fly!"Swami ChinmayanandaHate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin even with an excess of hatred."

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Hare Krishna,

 

Yes. Ofcourse we do that.

 

With Love,

Sree

K.V Gopalakrishna <gopalakrishna.kvguruvayur Sent: Wednesday, 30 August, 2006 5:04:38 PMRe: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Udayasthamana puja-white paper

 

Dear all,Radhe Krishna!Ideas all well-taken by me and we are proceeding in the right direction. But I wish a representative group meets each one of the members of the Devaswom Board separately and try to convince each one of them before presenting a paper or meeting the President of the Board. What I mean to say is that there should be sufficient lobbying before presenting the actual paper.Love to all Guruvayoor Bhaktas,K.V. Gopalakrishnasreedhar c.p wrote:

 

 

Hare Krishna,

 

Most of the points mentioned is right. what But here I would like to give my thought about it. Every our Opinion and suggestion should be purely with devotion to the kannan. These things should not be any Superiority or Inferiority complex, Ego issue, any such complex feeling or shouldn't,t effect anybody feelings . Just pure love to God we are making an effort to serve Kannan in a humble way. But it should have some Impact on the mind set on them..

 

It should be presented to the Guruvayoor committee on right time and right person on behalf of our group.

 

With Love,

Sree

 

 

balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in>gvr <guruvayur@grou ps.com>Monday, 28 August, 2006 5:50:28 PM[Guruvayur/Guruvayo or] Udayasthamana puja-white paper

 

HARI AUMShree Sunil's suggestion to prepare a white paper onthe recent changes envisaged by the Devaswom onmatters relating to the number of Udayasthamana Pujathat shall conducted on a single day is commendable.Long and lenghty memos may not be read, instead willcollect dust .One option is to collect the opinions thru'attachments and copy them into and send as one file.Alternatively the members as a whole is represented bythe Group and the suggestions are presented in aconcise form with the names of the signatories (ifnecessary).I am giving below the concise form of the suggestionsmade by our various members.The points noted below may not be conclusive. Those ofyou whose raised points and are not mentioned hereshall include the same.If any new ideas come to the mind please do place thesame also.I suggest that the matter shall be copy and pasted anddo the

editing.Once we feel that the same is presentable, we can sendthe same to the authorities . Alternatively if allfeel that all the points noted are one way or theother seems to be their opinion, all can join assignatories and the same send to the authorities.Collectively the points are:1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final2. Administarion shall not interefere in mattersrelated to the Puja vidhi.3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainlynecessary but the same shall be done without making ita money spinnner for the Devaswom.4. The above point is supported as-the cost of thePuja remaining the same the participants shall bebenefitted by way of dividing the total cost amongthemeselves.5.The matter shall be widely discussed .6.The matter should be put before those persons whoare in the know how of things like Tantri and otherlearned persons of the State. 7.It is also

suggested that public opinions be soughtbefore taking major decisions on such sensitivematters.8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and thetemple should be run as per the rituals prescribed byShree Adi Sankaracharya.Soliciting the cooperation of all members.We shall proceed as we hear from all of you.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANAPS:Also the members may be directed to send theiropinions directly to the Devaswom e-mail id. Whiledoing so they shall refer this Group to which theybelong and from whom the directions were received.Or the posting received in this forum shall be simplyforwarded to Devaswom for with a request forconsiderations. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers. /