[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] white paper

September 1, 2006

Ohm Narayanaya Namah Dear Balagopal, I on my part agree to your draft except the clause 4 at the end to be changed 4. The Devaswom does NOT possess all the rights to make changes UNILATERALLY. That is my view. Pizhayakilum Pizhakedakilum Thiruvullam Kaniyuka Bhagavane Ohm Narayanaya Namah Chandra Sekharan . balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote: HARI AUMBelow is

a draft of the main body of the memorandum.Requesting all to participate to make a final one.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA Changes in the Udayasthamana PujaThe news regarding the proposed changes in the numberof devotees whose offering of Udayasthamana puja thatwill be conducted on the designated days are to beincreased from the present one to ten has evokedvaried reactions among the devotees of Guruvayurappanspread across different continents world over.The members of this forum which do represent acrossection of the widely spread devotees ofGuruvayurappan too had deliberated the issue veryintensely in this forum.The purpose of this memorandum is only to pass on thevarious points discussed and enable the Devaswom Boardto take further actions taking into consideration thefeelings of the devotees of Guruvayurappan.The highlights of the discussion are:

The Administration shall not unilaterally decide tochange the age old traditions followed at thetemple.The common belief regarding the functioning ofthe temple both in terms of its rites and generalmatters among the devotees is that the rights ofdecisions are vested with the Tantri. So whenever thisbelief is challenged it affects the belief system ofthe devotees.If this is not the case then it is suggested that thedemarcations are per the 'Shastra' is made clear tothe devotees.The Devaswom's enthusism to facilitate the Bhaktha'sofferings of Udayasthamana Puja is commendable.Butfirstly it would make sense for the Devaswom to findout whether the devotees are really looking for thatamendment.Assuming that the devotees are really hoping a changein the number and frequency of the puja it shall beput to test with the prescribed traditions namely thevedic rites etc. and whose

authorities are the Tantriand other learned men who are in the know of such pujavidhis.If the proposal gets past these two gates then theDevaswom may go to the next stage of how this can beorganised.Some of the suggestions that came up in the forum aregiven below for your knowledge and use. Collectively the points are:1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final2. Administarion shall not interefere in mattersrelated to the Puja vidhi.3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainlynecessary but the same shall be done without making ita money spinnner for the Devaswom.4. The above point is supported as-the cost of thePuja remaining the same the participants shall bebenefitted by way of dividing the total cost amongthemeselves.5.The matter shall be widely discussed .6.The matter should be put before those persons whoare in the know how of things like Tantri and

otherlearned persons of the State. 7.It is also suggested that public opinions be soughtbefore taking major decisions on such sensitivematters.8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and thetemple should be run as per the rituals prescribed byShree Adi Sankaracharya.From the above, the concerns can be reduced to threeor four major types:1. Do not make any change.2. Change is welcome and shall be done with 100%willingness of the tantri only.3. Changes shall be accorded after due deliberationsamongst all the parties that are concerned withnamely-tantri, devotees, traditions, melsanthhi andother santhis and the administartors.4. The Devaswom has all the rights to make the changesunilaterally.The wisdom is always to go ahead with the plan afterdoing the due diligence, even it means consumingtime,effort and money. Afterall all these rituals areevolved as per the great

traditions of our country over centuries wherein the great saints and seers didallow themselves to deliberate the matters threadbarein the vedic forums of those days.Having they done so this country with its traditionssurvived the vagaries of time and evolving to be thenext super power in the days to come.Hope we have only added value to your decision makingprocess by this humble memorandum submitted to you onbehalf of the guruvayur ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers./

September 2, 2006

Jai Sreekrishna I also agree with Chandra Mohanji regarding change in clause no. 4 Further , according to me, we can also add an additional clause as under: Advance booking of Udaya asthamana pooja should be curtailed to maximum 2 to three years (maximum upto 5 years) . This way I think the devotees who pay for this very important pooja can have darshan during their lifetime by the grace of God. They should not accept the booking for half a century. For expample the pooja just now being conducted is of 1992 and already booked upto 2049. Instead I would suggest that they take booking only upto 2 years. They can always publish a notice once that poojas are over and accept fresh bookings I do not know whether my thinking is correct and viable. If you feel it is

viable please do the needful. Hare Krishna Gururvayoorappa Humbly SyamalaChandra Menon <chandrasmenon2002 wrote: Ohm Narayanaya Namah Dear Balagopal, I on my part agree to your draft except the clause 4 at the end to be changed 4. The Devaswom does NOT possess all the rights to make changes UNILATERALLY. That is my view. Pizhayakilum Pizhakedakilum Thiruvullam Kaniyuka Bhagavane Ohm Narayanaya Namah Chandra Sekharan . balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: HARI AUMBelow is a draft of the main body of the memorandum.Requesting all to participate to make a final one.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA Changes in the Udayasthamana PujaThe news regarding the proposed changes in the numberof devotees whose offering of Udayasthamana puja thatwill be conducted on the designated days are to beincreased from the present one to ten has evokedvaried reactions among the devotees of Guruvayurappanspread across different continents world over.The members of this forum which do represent acrossection of

the widely spread devotees ofGuruvayurappan too had deliberated the issue veryintensely in this forum.The purpose of this memorandum is only to pass on thevarious points discussed and enable the Devaswom Boardto take further actions taking into consideration thefeelings of the devotees of Guruvayurappan.The highlights of the discussion are: The Administration shall not unilaterally decide tochange the age old traditions followed at thetemple.The common belief regarding the functioning ofthe temple both in terms of its rites and generalmatters among the devotees is that the rights ofdecisions are vested with the Tantri. So whenever thisbelief is challenged it affects the belief system ofthe devotees.If this is not the case then it is suggested that thedemarcations are per the 'Shastra' is made clear tothe devotees.The Devaswom's enthusism to facilitate the Bhaktha'sofferings

of Udayasthamana Puja is commendable.Butfirstly it would make sense for the Devaswom to findout whether the devotees are really looking for thatamendment.Assuming that the devotees are really hoping a changein the number and frequency of the puja it shall beput to test with the prescribed traditions namely thevedic rites etc. and whose authorities are the Tantriand other learned men who are in the know of such pujavidhis.If the proposal gets past these two gates then theDevaswom may go to the next stage of how this can beorganised.Some of the suggestions that came up in the forum aregiven below for your knowledge and use. Collectively the points are:1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final2. Administarion shall not interefere in mattersrelated to the Puja vidhi.3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainlynecessary but the same shall be done without making

ita money spinnner for the Devaswom.4. The above point is supported as-the cost of thePuja remaining the same the participants shall bebenefitted by way of dividing the total cost amongthemeselves.5.The matter shall be widely discussed .6.The matter should be put before those persons whoare in the know how of things like Tantri and otherlearned persons of the State. 7.It is also suggested that public opinions be soughtbefore taking major decisions on such sensitivematters.8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and thetemple should be run as per the rituals prescribed byShree Adi Sankaracharya.From the above, the concerns can be reduced to threeor four major types:1. Do not make any change.2. Change is welcome and shall be done with 100%willingness of the tantri only.3. Changes shall be accorded after due deliberationsamongst all the parties that are concerned

withnamely-tantri, devotees, traditions, melsanthhi andother santhis and the administartors.4. The Devaswom has all the rights to make the changesunilaterally.The wisdom is always to go ahead with the plan afterdoing the due diligence, even it means consumingtime,effort and money. Afterall all these rituals areevolved as per the great traditions of our country over centuries wherein the great saints and seers didallow themselves to deliberate the matters threadbarein the vedic forums of those days.Having they done so this country with its traditionssurvived the vagaries of time and evolving to be thenext super power in the days to come.Hope we have only added value to your decision makingprocess by this humble memorandum submitted to you onbehalf of the guruvayur

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September 2, 2006

Hare Krishna,

Here I recd inside information regarding the Udyasthamana Pooja and rituals that Devaswom board is planned to go their according to the present plan. One of the Retd chief justice also another prominent person backed on this matter. Some of the close to the Devaswom Board is passed the information.How far this true I do no know. However, I can believe that the information is correct.

Now here I do agree with up to some extend to this Point. They can take unilateral decision but it should be minimum acceptable level to the devotees all over the world. For any good issue Public support is must and good for the noble act. To be thinks on this subject they should review the plan before implementing the same because it is a long-term plan.

I suggest we should proceed as per the plan as we are going towards the truth. Any valuable suggestion from respected members is very important.

As mentioning Rajan Bhai posted (mentioned famous Quotes).

The aim of an argument or discussion should not beVictory, but progress." - Joseph JoubertTomorrow God is not going to ask you:What did you think, dream, plan, or preach?But he is definitely going to ask: What did you do?All powers of Universe are with us, It is we who putour hands over our eyes and cry that it is darkSwami Vivekananda

With Love,

Sree

Chandra Menon <chandrasmenon2002guruvayur Sent: Friday, 1 September, 2006 9:47:36 PMRe: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] white paper

Ohm Narayanaya Namah

Dear Balagopal,

I on my part agree to your draft except the clause 4 at the end

to be changed

4. The Devaswom does NOT possess all the rights to make changes UNILATERALLY.

That is my view.

Pizhayakilum Pizhakedakilum Thiruvullam Kaniyuka Bhagavane

Ohm Narayanaya Namah

Chandra Sekharan

.. balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

HARI AUMBelow is a draft of the main body of the memorandum.Requesting all to participate to make a final one.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA Changes in the Udayasthamana PujaThe news regarding the proposed changes in the numberof devotees whose offering of Udayasthamana puja thatwill be conducted on the designated days are to beincreased from the present one to ten has evokedvaried reactions among the devotees of Guruvayurappanspread across different continents world over.The members of this forum which do represent acrossection of the widely spread devotees ofGuruvayurappan too had deliberated the issue veryintensely in this forum.The purpose of this memorandum is only to pass on thevarious points discussed and enable the Devaswom Boardto take further actions taking into consideration thefeelings of the devotees of Guruvayurappan.The

highlights of the discussion are: The Administration shall not unilaterally decide tochange the age old traditions followed at thetemple.The common belief regarding the functioning ofthe temple both in terms of its rites and generalmatters among the devotees is that the rights ofdecisions are vested with the Tantri. So whenever thisbelief is challenged it affects the belief system ofthe devotees.If this is not the case then it is suggested that thedemarcations are per the 'Shastra' is made clear tothe devotees.The Devaswom's enthusism to facilitate the Bhaktha'sofferings of Udayasthamana Puja is commendable. Butfirstly it would make sense for the Devaswom to findout whether the devotees are really looking for thatamendment.Assuming that the devotees are really hoping a changein the number and frequency of the puja it shall beput to test with the prescribed traditions namely

thevedic rites etc. and whose authorities are the Tantriand other learned men who are in the know of such pujavidhis.If the proposal gets past these two gates then theDevaswom may go to the next stage of how this can beorganised.Some of the suggestions that came up in the forum aregiven below for your knowledge and use. Collectively the points are:1. The Tantri's word shall be deemed as final2. Administarion shall not interefere in mattersrelated to the Puja vidhi.3. The reduction of the waiting period is certainlynecessary but the same shall be done without making ita money spinnner for the Devaswom.4. The above point is supported as-the cost of thePuja remaining the same the participants shall bebenefitted by way of dividing the total cost amongthemeselves.5.The matter shall be widely discussed .6.The matter should be put before those persons whoare in the know how of

things like Tantri and otherlearned persons of the State. 7.It is also suggested that public opinions be soughtbefore taking major decisions on such sensitivematters.8. Such changes are to be totally avoided and thetemple should be run as per the rituals prescribed byShree Adi Sankaracharya.From the above, the concerns can be reduced to threeor four major types:1. Do not make any change.2. Change is welcome and shall be done with 100%willingness of the tantri only.3. Changes shall be accorded after due deliberationsamongst all the parties that are concerned withnamely-tantri, devotees, traditions, melsanthhi andother santhis and the administartors.4. The Devaswom has all the rights to make the changesunilaterally.The wisdom is always to go ahead with the plan afterdoing the due diligence, even it means consumingtime,effort and money. Afterall all these rituals areevolved as

per the great traditions of our country over centuries wherein the great saints and seers didallow themselves to deliberate the matters threadbarein the vedic forums of those days.Having they done so this country with its traditionssurvived the vagaries of time and evolving to be thenext super power in the days to come.Hope we have only added value to your decision makingprocess by this humble memorandum submitted to you onbehalf of the guruvayur@grou ps.com ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers. /