Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 dear bhakthas, i am feeling very lucky to be in this group. as a house wife with many commitments i am not able to participate fully in the group communications. there are so many learned devotees in this group. hence i have a simple doubt for clarification. any of the learned devotees please help me in this. we see lord guruvayoorappan photos with lotus in hand. in some he has a long stem of the lotus which reaches to his right foot. and in some pictures the lotus is without a stem. is there any significance in the stem coming upto the lord's foot?- i will be extremely thank ful if any one can throw light in my simple -may be silly- doubt. with lots and lots of pranams in guruvayoorappan's feet and also his devotees feet. ENTE PONNU GURUVAYOORAPPA KAATHU RAKSHIKKANE thanking for the wonderful NAVANEETHAM issues. vijaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Vijaya Ji - Shree Guruvayoorappa Sharanam! I also feel that I'm very fortunate to be a part of this group. It's so nice to see your wonderful attitude of devotion to Krishna. Please do not forget that it was actually the housewives, the wives of the Brahmanas, who helped Krishna, Balaram and Their cowherd friends when they were really in need. The Brahamana husbands were so much busy in their rituals that they forgot that Krishna Himself, the real purpose behind all those rituals, was asking something from them. Of course, the husband Brahmanas realised this later and understood that even though their wives were not as learned as them in the scriptures and rituals etc. but they knew more about what is the real goal of performing all the rituals etc. -- and that is to love Krishna and serve Him as much as we can with that love and affection! The details of the story you can find here - http://krsnabook.com/ch23.html I remembered this because of your statement saying that you are a housewife and not able to participate much. Now coming to your question (which is indeed a very nice one!)-- The only thing which I can think of is that the Lotus (Aravindam) sometimes wants to taste being near the Lotus Feet (Padaaravindam) of Krishna and hence sometimes it extends it's stem to get that nectarean bliss of being near Krishna's lotus feet. The scholars in this group will be able to answer it better.... ....Hanta Bhaagyam Janaanaam!!! ~Krishnadasa. guruvayur , vijayav47 <no_reply wrote: > > dear bhakthas, i am feeling very lucky to be in this group. as a house > wife with many commitments i am not able to participate fully in the > group communications. there are so many learned devotees in this group. > hence i have a simple doubt for clarification. any of the learned > devotees please help me in this. we see lord guruvayoorappan photos > with lotus in hand. in some he has a long stem of the lotus which > reaches to his right foot. and in some pictures the lotus is without a > stem. is there any significance in the stem coming upto the lord's > foot?- i will be extremely thank ful if any one can throw light in my > simple -may be silly- doubt. with lots and lots of pranams in > guruvayoorappan's feet and also his devotees feet. > ENTE PONNU GURUVAYOORAPPA > KAATHU RAKSHIKKANE > thanking for the wonderful NAVANEETHAM issues. > vijaya > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 -that is a wonderful and sweet imagination !!!!!!!!!the aravindam in guruvayoorappan's hand wants to taste the nectar of his padaravindam-- this is as sweet as the nectar !!!!!thank you very much -- In guruvayur , " krishnadasa77 " <krishnadasa77 wrote: > > Dear Gopalakrishnaji, > > Is'nt it that Maha Vishnu is Padmanaabha (Lotus coming from His > navel) and at the same time Padmahasta (Having Lotus flower in His > hands). > > As it is stated: > > Shankhum Chakram Gada Pankajam Idivilasam > Naalu Trikaigaluude Sankiirna Shyama Varnam > Harivapulamaram Puraye Mangalam Va > > (Don't know whether I have pronounced this correctly & what is the > source of this. Apologies!) > > When Shree Maha Vishnu is lying down in the ocean of Kshirasagara > (Milk ocean) He is lying down on the Sheshanaga (Ananta) and from His > nabham the Padma is coming and on the Padma Lord Brahma is sitting. > As it is stated: > > Shantakaram Bhujagasayanam Padmanabham Suresham > Vishwakaram Gaganasadrusam Meghavarnam Shubhangam > Lakshmikantam Kamalanayanam Yogibhir Dhyanagamyam. > Vande Vishnum Bhavabhayaharam Sarvalokykanatham. > > Please do inform what you think of the answer which I tried to give > in the thread guruvayur/message/3841: > > --- > > Now coming to your question (which is indeed a very nice one!)-- The > only thing which I can think of is that the Lotus (Aravindam) > sometimes wants to taste being near the Lotus Feet (Padaaravindam) of > Krishna and hence sometimes it extends it's stem to get that > nectarean bliss of being near Krishna's lotus feet. > > The scholars in this group will be able to answer it better.... > > ...Hanta Bhaagyam Janaanaam!!! > --- > > Coming to think of it now -- I think it does not really require > scholarly abilities but lots of devotion and love for Krishna in > order to understand this???? > > Please forgive any offenses which I might have made while replying to > you. Thank you! > > ~Krishnadasa. > > > guruvayur , " K.V Gopalakrishna " > <gopalakrishna.kv@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > Radhe krishna! > > > > The point which Vijayaji has asked is different. she has > particilar > > doubt about the orientation of the stalk of the Padma, which, in > some > > pictures, is shown coming right down to the foot and going up to > His > > hand, and in some, where the Padma is shown straight in His hands > > without showing the stalk. > > > > I personally feel it is all quite imaginary picturisation. As > everyone > > knows, the stalk of the Padma has its origin at the navel of the > Lord. > > When He is wearing the Peethambara which covers His navel also, the > > Padma cannot be shown with the lotus stalk projecting out of the > navel, > > which becomes awkward. So it is the imagination of the person who > has > > drawn the picture, that the lotus stalk comes down along the leg, > within > > the Peethambara and then is shown as again coming upward for the > Lord's > > hand to hold it. After all, who has seen really how it is > oriented.? > > It is all each person's imagination. > > > > Regards > > KVG > > > > > > > > Krishna Prasad wrote: > > > > > Hari OM! > > > > > > Dear Vijayaji, > > > > > > This I heard it from a Satsang, Please other members can > elaborate on > > > this. > > > > > > Guruvayurappan is also known as Unni Krishnan, represents > Sattvaguna > > > and is the > > > centripetal force as it were responsible for sustenance, > protection and > > > maintenance of the created Universe. Another name of > Guruvayurappan is > > > Narayana. > > > Krishna is always described as Nialamegahasyana, of a dark blue > hue like > > > than of the rain-bearing cloud.The icon of Guruvayurappan has one > face > > > and four > > > arms each one holding Sankha (conch), Chakra (discus), Gada > (mace), > > > Padma (lotus) and wears a necklace with the famous gem Kaustubha > > > dangling on the lock of hair Srivatsa, on the left chest. He also > > > wears a garland (of gems or fragrant flowers) Vaijayanti by name. > > > > > > The Sankha represents the five elements like the Space, Air, > Water earth, > > > etc; > > > > > > chakra stands for the cosmic mind, > > > > > > Gada indicates the cosmic intellect > > > > > > and the Padma points to the evolving world. > > > > > > The curl of hair, Srivatsa, represents all objects of enjoyment, > > > the products of nature. > > > > > > The gem Kaustubha, resting on it, stands for the enjoyer. > > > > > > The garland Vaijayanti is symbolical of the subtle elements. > > > > > > with Love & OM! > > > > > > Krishna Prasad > > > > > > > > > On 9/19/06, *vijayav47* <no_reply > > > <no_reply >> wrote: > > > > > > dear bhakthas, i am feeling very lucky to be in this group. > as a > > > house > > > wife with many commitments i am not able to participate fully > in the > > > group communications. there are so many learned devotees in > this > > > group. > > > hence i have a simple doubt for clarification. any of the > learned > > > devotees please help me in this. we see lord guruvayoorappan > photos > > > with lotus in hand. in some he has a long stem of the lotus > which > > > reaches to his right foot. and in some pictures the lotus is > > > without a > > > stem. is there any significance in the stem coming upto the > lord's > > > foot?- i will be extremely thank ful if any one can throw > light in my > > > simple -may be silly- doubt. with lots and lots of pranams in > > > guruvayoorappan's feet and also his devotees feet. > > > ENTE PONNU GURUVAYOORAPPA > > > KAATHU RAKSHIKKANE > > > thanking for the wonderful NAVANEETHAM issues. > > > vijaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in <http://www.dotcompals.in> > > > .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USD > > > > > > > > > Krishna Prasad > > > > > > Dare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into > the 'unknown' > > > The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do not > know. > > > If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the > fullest. > > > > > > As Poojya Gurudev said it, > > > > > > " Open your eyes. Burst your shell. > > > Spread your wings and fly! " > > > > > > Swami Chinmayananda > > > Hate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin even > with > > > an excess of hatred. " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Vijayaji - Shree Guruvayurappa Sharanam! I would like to humbly state that I do not want to bring my material imagination into picture while discussing Krishna's topics. So I would like to point out the Shastric basis behind my statement of Aravindam getting attracted to Padaaravindam of Krishna will be that in the Spiritual world each and every thing is full of Sat (Truth), Chit(Eternality) and Ananda (Bliss) and therefore everyone is constantly associating with Krishna (who is, in fact, the source of all that Ananda (Aham Sarvasya Prabhavah - BG 10.8 - http://www.asitis.com/10/8.html ) in multifarious ways and trying to serve Krishna. Similarly the Aravindam in the hands of Krishna is also purely spiritual one and just like it is stated in Srimad-Bhagavatam: nadyas tada tad upadharya mukunda-gitam avarta-laksita-manobhava-bhagna-vegah alingana-sthagitam urmi-bhujair murarer grhnanti pada-yugalam kamalopaharah (SB 10.21.15) [ " Some other gopi said: O sakhi! Why do you speak of the devls, cows and birds? They are all animate living beings. Have you not seen the inanimate rivers? By the whirlpools that are seen in them, it is understood that within their hearts surges an intense desire to meet with Syamasundara. The flow of the rivers has been stopped by this intense emotional agitation. They have also heard the sound of our beloved Krishna's flute. Just see! Just see! With the arms of their waves, they have caught hold of His lotus feet and are presenting offerings of lotus flowers. They are embracing His lotus feet just as if they were offering their hearts to Him. " ] Therefore the so-called inanimate 'Aravindam' is eternally attracted to the lotus feet (Padaaravindam) of Krishna and it sometimes extends it's stalk to be near the lotus feet of Krishna. Apologies to the wonderful devotees here and to you Vijaya Ji if I have said something wrong. ~Krishnadasa. guruvayur , vijayav47 <no_reply wrote: > > -that is a wonderful and sweet imagination !!!!!!!!!the aravindam in > guruvayoorappan's hand wants to taste the nectar of his padaravindam-- > this is as sweet as the nectar !!!!!thank you very much > -- In guruvayur , " krishnadasa77 " <krishnadasa77@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Gopalakrishnaji, > > > > Is'nt it that Maha Vishnu is Padmanaabha (Lotus coming from His > > navel) and at the same time Padmahasta (Having Lotus flower in His > > hands). > > > > As it is stated: > > > > Shankhum Chakram Gada Pankajam Idivilasam > > Naalu Trikaigaluude Sankiirna Shyama Varnam > > Harivapulamaram Puraye Mangalam Va > > > > (Don't know whether I have pronounced this correctly & what is the > > source of this. Apologies!) > > > > When Shree Maha Vishnu is lying down in the ocean of Kshirasagara > > (Milk ocean) He is lying down on the Sheshanaga (Ananta) and from > His > > nabham the Padma is coming and on the Padma Lord Brahma is sitting. > > As it is stated: > > > > Shantakaram Bhujagasayanam Padmanabham Suresham > > Vishwakaram Gaganasadrusam Meghavarnam Shubhangam > > Lakshmikantam Kamalanayanam Yogibhir Dhyanagamyam. > > Vande Vishnum Bhavabhayaharam Sarvalokykanatham. > > > > Please do inform what you think of the answer which I tried to give > > in the thread guruvayur/message/3841: > > > > --- > > > > Now coming to your question (which is indeed a very nice one!)-- The > > only thing which I can think of is that the Lotus (Aravindam) > > sometimes wants to taste being near the Lotus Feet (Padaaravindam) > of > > Krishna and hence sometimes it extends it's stem to get that > > nectarean bliss of being near Krishna's lotus feet. > > > > The scholars in this group will be able to answer it better.... > > > > ...Hanta Bhaagyam Janaanaam!!! > > --- > > > > Coming to think of it now -- I think it does not really require > > scholarly abilities but lots of devotion and love for Krishna in > > order to understand this???? > > > > Please forgive any offenses which I might have made while replying > to > > you. Thank you! > > > > ~Krishnadasa. > > > > > > guruvayur , " K.V Gopalakrishna " > > <gopalakrishna.kv@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > Radhe krishna! > > > > > > The point which Vijayaji has asked is different. she has > > particilar > > > doubt about the orientation of the stalk of the Padma, which, in > > some > > > pictures, is shown coming right down to the foot and going up to > > His > > > hand, and in some, where the Padma is shown straight in His hands > > > without showing the stalk. > > > > > > I personally feel it is all quite imaginary picturisation. As > > everyone > > > knows, the stalk of the Padma has its origin at the navel of the > > Lord. > > > When He is wearing the Peethambara which covers His navel also, > the > > > Padma cannot be shown with the lotus stalk projecting out of the > > navel, > > > which becomes awkward. So it is the imagination of the person > who > > has > > > drawn the picture, that the lotus stalk comes down along the leg, > > within > > > the Peethambara and then is shown as again coming upward for the > > Lord's > > > hand to hold it. After all, who has seen really how it is > > oriented.? > > > It is all each person's imagination. > > > > > > Regards > > > KVG > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna Prasad wrote: > > > > > > > Hari OM! > > > > > > > > Dear Vijayaji, > > > > > > > > This I heard it from a Satsang, Please other members can > > elaborate on > > > > this. > > > > > > > > Guruvayurappan is also known as Unni Krishnan, represents > > Sattvaguna > > > > and is the > > > > centripetal force as it were responsible for sustenance, > > protection and > > > > maintenance of the created Universe. Another name of > > Guruvayurappan is > > > > Narayana. > > > > Krishna is always described as Nialamegahasyana, of a dark blue > > hue like > > > > than of the rain-bearing cloud.The icon of Guruvayurappan has > one > > face > > > > and four > > > > arms each one holding Sankha (conch), Chakra (discus), Gada > > (mace), > > > > Padma (lotus) and wears a necklace with the famous gem Kaustubha > > > > dangling on the lock of hair Srivatsa, on the left chest. He > also > > > > wears a garland (of gems or fragrant flowers) Vaijayanti by > name. > > > > > > > > The Sankha represents the five elements like the Space, Air, > > Water earth, > > > > etc; > > > > > > > > chakra stands for the cosmic mind, > > > > > > > > Gada indicates the cosmic intellect > > > > > > > > and the Padma points to the evolving world. > > > > > > > > The curl of hair, Srivatsa, represents all objects of enjoyment, > > > > the products of nature. > > > > > > > > The gem Kaustubha, resting on it, stands for the enjoyer. > > > > > > > > The garland Vaijayanti is symbolical of the subtle elements. > > > > > > > > with Love & OM! > > > > > > > > Krishna Prasad > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/19/06, *vijayav47* <no_reply > > > > <no_reply >> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear bhakthas, i am feeling very lucky to be in this group. > > as a > > > > house > > > > wife with many commitments i am not able to participate > fully > > in the > > > > group communications. there are so many learned devotees in > > this > > > > group. > > > > hence i have a simple doubt for clarification. any of the > > learned > > > > devotees please help me in this. we see lord > guruvayoorappan > > photos > > > > with lotus in hand. in some he has a long stem of the lotus > > which > > > > reaches to his right foot. and in some pictures the lotus is > > > > without a > > > > stem. is there any significance in the stem coming upto the > > lord's > > > > foot?- i will be extremely thank ful if any one can throw > > light in my > > > > simple -may be silly- doubt. with lots and lots of pranams > in > > > > guruvayoorappan's feet and also his devotees feet. > > > > ENTE PONNU GURUVAYOORAPPA > > > > KAATHU RAKSHIKKANE > > > > thanking for the wonderful NAVANEETHAM issues. > > > > vijaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in <http://www.dotcompals.in> > > > > .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USD > > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna Prasad > > > > > > > > Dare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into > > the 'unknown' > > > > The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do > not > > know. > > > > If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the > > fullest. > > > > > > > > As Poojya Gurudev said it, > > > > > > > > " Open your eyes. Burst your shell. > > > > Spread your wings and fly! " > > > > > > > > Swami Chinmayananda > > > > Hate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin > even > > with > > > > an excess of hatred. " > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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