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I thin that your explanation is wonderful There is a lot of joy in approaching such things with your heart instead of the head..krishnadasa77 <krishnadasa77 wrote: Vijayaji - Shree Guruvayurappa Sharanam!I would like to humbly state that I do not want to bring my material imagination into picture while discussing Krishna's topics. So I would like to point out the Shastric basis behind my statement of Aravindam getting attracted to Padaaravindam of Krishna will be that in the Spiritual

world each and every thing is full of Sat (Truth), Chit(Eternality) and Ananda (Bliss) and therefore everyone is constantly associating with Krishna (who is, in fact, the source of all that Ananda (Aham Sarvasya Prabhavah - BG 10.8 - http://www.asitis.com/10/8.html ) in multifarious ways and trying to serve Krishna. Similarly the Aravindam in the hands of Krishna is also purely spiritual one and just like it is stated in Srimad-Bhagavatam:nadyas tada tad upadharya mukunda-gitamavarta-laksita-manobhava-bhagna-vegahalingana-sthagitam urmi-bhujair murarergrhnanti pada-yugalam kamalopaharah(SB 10.21.15)["Some other gopi said: O sakhi! Why do you speak of the devls, cows and birds? They are all animate living beings. Have you not seen the inanimate rivers? By the whirlpools that are seen in them, it is understood that within their hearts

surges an intense desire to meet with Syamasundara. The flow of the rivers has been stopped by this intense emotional agitation. They have also heard thesound of our beloved Krishna's flute. Just see! Just see! With the arms of their waves, they have caught hold of His lotus feet and are presenting offerings of lotus flowers. They are embracing His lotus feet just as if they were offering their hearts to Him."]Therefore the so-called inanimate 'Aravindam' is eternally attracted to the lotus feet (Padaaravindam) of Krishna and it sometimes extends it's stalk to be near the lotus feet of Krishna.Apologies to the wonderful devotees here and to you Vijaya Ji if I have said something wrong.~Krishnadasa.guruvayur , vijayav47 <no_reply wrote:>> -that is a wonderful and sweet imagination !!!!!!!!!the aravindam

in > guruvayoorappan's hand wants to taste the nectar of his padaravindam--> this is as sweet as the nectar !!!!!thank you very much> -- In guruvayur , "krishnadasa77" <krishnadasa77@> > wrote:> >> > Dear Gopalakrishnaji,> > > > Is'nt it that Maha Vishnu is Padmanaabha (Lotus coming from His > > navel) and at the same time Padmahasta (Having Lotus flower in His > > hands).> > > > As it is stated:> > > > Shankhum Chakram Gada Pankajam Idivilasam> > Naalu Trikaigaluude Sankiirna Shyama Varnam> > Harivapulamaram Puraye Mangalam Va> > > > (Don't know whether I have pronounced this correctly & what is the > > source of this. Apologies!)> > > > When Shree Maha Vishnu is lying

down in the ocean of Kshirasagara > > (Milk ocean) He is lying down on the Sheshanaga (Ananta) and from > His > > nabham the Padma is coming and on the Padma Lord Brahma is sitting. > > As it is stated:> > > > Shantakaram Bhujagasayanam Padmanabham Suresham> > Vishwakaram Gaganasadrusam Meghavarnam Shubhangam> > Lakshmikantam Kamalanayanam Yogibhir Dhyanagamyam.> > Vande Vishnum Bhavabhayaharam Sarvalokykanatham.> > > > Please do inform what you think of the answer which I tried to give > > in the thread guruvayur/message/3841:> > > > ---> > > > Now coming to your question (which is indeed a very nice one!)-- The> > only thing which I can think of is that the Lotus

(Aravindam)> > sometimes wants to taste being near the Lotus Feet (Padaaravindam) > of> > Krishna and hence sometimes it extends it's stem to get that> > nectarean bliss of being near Krishna's lotus feet.> > > > The scholars in this group will be able to answer it better....> > > > ...Hanta Bhaagyam Janaanaam!!!> > ---> > > > Coming to think of it now -- I think it does not really require > > scholarly abilities but lots of devotion and love for Krishna in > > order to understand this????> > > > Please forgive any offenses which I might have made while replying > to > > you. Thank you!> > > > ~Krishnadasa.> > > > > > guruvayur , "K.V Gopalakrishna" > >

<gopalakrishna.kv@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear all,> > > Radhe krishna!> > > > > > The point which Vijayaji has asked is different. she has > > particilar > > > doubt about the orientation of the stalk of the Padma, which, in > > some > > > pictures, is shown coming right down to the foot and going up to > > His > > > hand, and in some, where the Padma is shown straight in His hands > > > without showing the stalk.> > > > > > I personally feel it is all quite imaginary picturisation. As > > everyone > > > knows, the stalk of the Padma has its origin at the navel of the > > Lord. > > > When He is wearing the Peethambara which covers His navel also, > the > > > Padma cannot be shown with the lotus stalk projecting out

of the > > navel, > > > which becomes awkward. So it is the imagination of the person > who > > has > > > drawn the picture, that the lotus stalk comes down along the leg, > > within > > > the Peethambara and then is shown as again coming upward for the > > Lord's > > > hand to hold it. After all, who has seen really how it is > > oriented.? > > > It is all each person's imagination. > > > > > > Regards> > > KVG> > > > > > > > > > > > Krishna Prasad wrote:> > > > > > > Hari OM!> > > > > > > > Dear Vijayaji,> > > > > > > > This I heard it from a Satsang, Please other members can > > elaborate on > > > > this.> > > >

> > > > Guruvayurappan is also known as Unni Krishnan, represents > > Sattvaguna > > > > and is the> > > > centripetal force as it were responsible for sustenance, > > protection and> > > > maintenance of the created Universe. Another name of > > Guruvayurappan is > > > > Narayana.> > > > Krishna is always described as Nialamegahasyana, of a dark blue > > hue like> > > > than of the rain-bearing cloud.The icon of Guruvayurappan has > one > > face > > > > and four> > > > arms each one holding Sankha (conch), Chakra (discus), Gada > > (mace),> > > > Padma (lotus) and wears a necklace with the famous gem Kaustubha> > > > dangling on the lock of hair Srivatsa, on the left chest. He > also> > > > wears a

garland (of gems or fragrant flowers) Vaijayanti by > name.> > > >> > > > The Sankha represents the five elements like the Space, Air, > > Water earth,> > > > etc;> > > >> > > > chakra stands for the cosmic mind,> > > >> > > > Gada indicates the cosmic intellect> > > >> > > > and the Padma points to the evolving world.> > > >> > > > The curl of hair, Srivatsa, represents all objects of enjoyment,> > > > the products of nature.> > > >> > > > The gem Kaustubha, resting on it, stands for the enjoyer.> > > >> > > > The garland Vaijayanti is symbolical of the subtle elements.> > > > > > > > with Love & OM!> > > > > > > > Krishna

Prasad> > > >> > > >> > > > On 9/19/06, *vijayav47* <no_reply > > > > <no_reply >> wrote:> > > >> > > > dear bhakthas, i am feeling very lucky to be in this group. > > as a> > > > house> > > > wife with many commitments i am not able to participate > fully > > in the> > > > group communications. there are so many learned devotees in > > this> > > > group.> > > > hence i have a simple doubt for clarification. any of the > > learned> > > > devotees please help me in this. we see lord > guruvayoorappan > > photos> > > > with lotus in hand. in some

he has a long stem of the lotus > > which> > > > reaches to his right foot. and in some pictures the lotus is> > > > without a> > > > stem. is there any significance in the stem coming upto the > > lord's> > > > foot?- i will be extremely thank ful if any one can throw > > light in my> > > > simple -may be silly- doubt. with lots and lots of pranams > in> > > > guruvayoorappan's feet and also his devotees feet.> > > > ENTE PONNU GURUVAYOORAPPA> > > > KAATHU RAKSHIKKANE> > > > thanking for the wonderful NAVANEETHAM issues.> > > > vijaya> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -- > > > > dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in <http://www.dotcompals.in>> > > > .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USD> > > >> > > >> > > > Krishna Prasad> > > >> > > > Dare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into > > the 'unknown'> > > > The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do > not > > know.> > > > If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the > > fullest.> > > >> > > > As Poojya Gurudev said it,> > > >> > > > "Open your eyes. Burst your shell.> > > > Spread your wings and fly!"> > > >> > > > Swami Chinmayananda> > > > Hate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin > even > > with > > > > an

excess of hatred."> > > >> > >> >> May god bless you, Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit.

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Dear Rajeev and other friends,

Radhe Krishna!

 

Our friend and Krishnadasa Rajeev's sweet explanation is very much

appealing to the heart. Bhaktas will , no doubt, like it. And I

too. But here are two lotuses in reference. One is the

"Nabhee-kamalam" of the Lord, which emanates from His Nabhee-randhram

(aperture at the navel), has a very very long stalk and supports the

whole Universe. Brahma in the form of Hiranya-garbha is imagined to

be seated on this lotus. It is the same lotus which Brahma divided

and made into 14 worlds. The region Brahma is seated, represents

Satya-loka.

 

The other lotus which is one of the four ensigns of the Lord which He

bears in the lower right hand represents one of the subtle essence of

one of the elements of creation, the "Antah-karanam" or the "Inner

Conscience" in the Cosmic terminology.

 

Regards

KVG.

 

 

 

 

vijayav47 wrote:

 

 

-that is a wonderful and sweet imagination !!!!!!!!!the aravindam

in

guruvayoorappan's hand wants to taste the nectar of his

padaravindam--

this is as sweet as the nectar !!!!!thank you very much

-- In guruvayur ,

"krishnadasa77" <krishnadasa77

wrote:

>

> Dear Gopalakrishnaji,

>

> Is'nt it that Maha Vishnu is Padmanaabha (Lotus coming from His

> navel) and at the same time Padmahasta (Having Lotus flower in His

 

> hands).

>

> As it is stated:

>

> Shankhum Chakram Gada Pankajam Idivilasam

> Naalu Trikaigaluude Sankiirna Shyama Varnam

> Harivapulamaram Puraye Mangalam Va

>

> (Don't know whether I have pronounced this correctly & what is

the

> source of this. Apologies!)

>

> When Shree Maha Vishnu is lying down in the ocean of Kshirasagara

> (Milk ocean) He is lying down on the Sheshanaga (Ananta) and from

His

> nabham the Padma is coming and on the Padma Lord Brahma is

sitting.

> As it is stated:

>

> Shantakaram Bhujagasayanam Padmanabham Suresham

> Vishwakaram Gaganasadrusam Meghavarnam Shubhangam

> Lakshmikantam Kamalanayanam Yogibhir Dhyanagamyam.

> Vande Vishnum Bhavabhayaharam Sarvalokykanatham.

>

> Please do inform what you think of the answer which I tried to

give

> in the thread guruvayur/message/3841:

>

> ---

>

> Now coming to your question (which is indeed a very nice one!)--

The

> only thing which I can think of is that the Lotus (Aravindam)

> sometimes wants to taste being near the Lotus Feet (Padaaravindam)

 

of

> Krishna and hence sometimes it extends it's stem to get that

> nectarean bliss of being near Krishna's lotus feet.

>

> The scholars in this group will be able to answer it better....

>

> ...Hanta Bhaagyam Janaanaam!!!

> ---

>

> Coming to think of it now -- I think it does not really require

> scholarly abilities but lots of devotion and love for Krishna in

> order to understand this????

>

> Please forgive any offenses which I might have made while replying

 

to

> you. Thank you!

>

> ~Krishnadasa.

>

>

> guruvayur ,

"K.V Gopalakrishna"

> <gopalakrishna.kv@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear all,

> > Radhe krishna!

> >

> > The point which Vijayaji has asked is different. she has

> particilar

> > doubt about the orientation of the stalk of the Padma, which,

in

> some

> > pictures, is shown coming right down to the foot and going up

to

> His

> > hand, and in some, where the Padma is shown straight in His

hands

> > without showing the stalk.

> >

> > I personally feel it is all quite imaginary picturisation. As

 

> everyone

> > knows, the stalk of the Padma has its origin at the navel of

the

> Lord.

> > When He is wearing the Peethambara which covers His navel

also,

the

> > Padma cannot be shown with the lotus stalk projecting out of

the

> navel,

> > which becomes awkward. So it is the imagination of the person

 

who

> has

> > drawn the picture, that the lotus stalk comes down along the

leg,

> within

> > the Peethambara and then is shown as again coming upward for

the

> Lord's

> > hand to hold it. After all, who has seen really how it is

> oriented.?

> > It is all each person's imagination.

> >

> > Regards

> > KVG

> >

> >

> >

> > Krishna Prasad wrote:

> >

> > > Hari OM!

> > >

> > > Dear Vijayaji,

> > >

> > > This I heard it from a Satsang, Please other members can

 

> elaborate on

> > > this.

> > >

> > > Guruvayurappan is also known as Unni Krishnan,

represents

> Sattvaguna

> > > and is the

> > > centripetal force as it were responsible for sustenance,

 

> protection and

> > > maintenance of the created Universe. Another name of

> Guruvayurappan is

> > > Narayana.

> > > Krishna is always described as Nialamegahasyana, of a

dark blue

> hue like

> > > than of the rain-bearing cloud.The icon of

Guruvayurappan has

one

> face

> > > and four

> > > arms each one holding Sankha (conch), Chakra (discus),

Gada

> (mace),

> > > Padma (lotus) and wears a necklace with the famous gem

Kaustubha

> > > dangling on the lock of hair Srivatsa, on the left

chest. He

also

> > > wears a garland (of gems or fragrant flowers) Vaijayanti

by

name.

> > >

> > > The Sankha represents the five elements like the Space,

Air,

> Water earth,

> > > etc;

> > >

> > > chakra stands for the cosmic mind,

> > >

> > > Gada indicates the cosmic intellect

> > >

> > > and the Padma points to the evolving world.

> > >

> > > The curl of hair, Srivatsa, represents all objects of

enjoyment,

> > > the products of nature.

> > >

> > > The gem Kaustubha, resting on it, stands for the enjoyer.

> > >

> > > The garland Vaijayanti is symbolical of the subtle

elements.

> > >

> > > with Love & OM!

> > >

> > > Krishna Prasad

> > >

> > >

> > > On 9/19/06, *vijayav47* <no_reply

 

> > > <no_reply >>

wrote:

> > >

> > > dear bhakthas, i am feeling very lucky to be in this

group.

> as a

> > > house

> > > wife with many commitments i am not able to participate

fully

> in the

> > > group communications. there are so many learned devotees

in

> this

> > > group.

> > > hence i have a simple doubt for clarification. any of

the

> learned

> > > devotees please help me in this. we see lord

guruvayoorappan

> photos

> > > with lotus in hand. in some he has a long stem of the

lotus

> which

> > > reaches to his right foot. and in some pictures the

lotus is

> > > without a

> > > stem. is there any significance in the stem coming upto

the

> lord's

> > > foot?- i will be extremely thank ful if any one can

throw

> light in my

> > > simple -may be silly- doubt. with lots and lots of

pranams

in

> > > guruvayoorappan's feet and also his devotees feet.

> > > ENTE PONNU GURUVAYOORAPPA

> > > KAATHU RAKSHIKKANE

> > > thanking for the wonderful NAVANEETHAM issues.

> > > vijaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --

> > > dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in <http://www.dotcompals.in>

> > > .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USD

> > >

> > >

> > > Krishna Prasad

> > >

> > > Dare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture

into

> the 'unknown'

> > > The more we know, the more we will come to realize what

we do

not

> know.

> > > If we want to achieve our true potential and live life

to the

> fullest.

> > >

> > > As Poojya Gurudev said it,

> > >

> > > "Open your eyes. Burst your shell.

> > > Spread your wings and fly!"

> > >

> > > Swami Chinmayananda

> > > Hate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the

sin

even

> with

> > > an excess of hatred."

> > >

> >

>