[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Dasavatharam.

October 5, 2006

Ohm Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya; Ohm Namo Narrayanaya

Dear All,

I think its better to stop unnecessary arguments on

Dasavathara. We have discussed about this subject

before also. Our ISKON believers words and arguments

will hurt our ordinary believers concepts and

interests. Live both of them in their own way.

Regards

Keerthi Kumar

Bahrain

Ohm Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya; Ohm Namo Narrayanaya

--- Krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:

> Bhagavane Guruvayoorappa,

>

> Thousands of Your ‘Padasevakas’ are rushing to

> Guruvayoor temple only to worship Your divine

> ‘Vigraham’ . They are interested in Your

> Bhakti-yoga alone and nothing else . To them,

> Srimad Bhagavatam , Bhagavat Geeta and Srimad

> Narayaneeyam are Your literary incarnations ; and

> not “mythological books” . Narayaneeyam clearly

> specifies You as the Supreme Personality of Godhead

> . Your Padasevakas faithfully follow Narayaneeyam

> ( since it has Your stamp of approval) in letter

> and spirit . They are least worried , if someone

> ridicules this as ‘fanaticism’ or ‘ ignorance’ .

>

> Your great Bhaktas like Poontanam Tirumeni and

> Kurooramma were not Jnana-Yogis ; but You mercifully

> blessed them with self realization . And unlike some

> selfish jnana-seekers, they have not abandoned

> ‘Guruvayoorappa-vigraham’ thereafter . In fact ,

> they continued to be Your loyal Bhaktas, till their

> last breath . O Bhagavan, please bless Your

> unskilled-Bhaktas like us to attain and sustain

> such a bhakti .

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya !!!

>

> A humble servant .

>

--\

-

>

> rsunitaa wrote….

>

> We have been through the discussion of the ISCKON

> philosophy several times and have had heated

> discussions over it. We condemned fanatism in other

> religions and agreed that Hinduism is also not free

> of it.

>

> This is an example of existance of fanatism in Hindu

> culture. [Fanatism is saying that the form of GOD

> worshipped by that group is the only form of GOD]. I

> think there is no point arguing over it all over

> again. I would kindly request learned members of

> this group to ignore it.

>

> There is just one Supreme Godhead of reality as

> ISKCON calls it. But we call that reality in

> different names. ISKCON calls it as Krishna,

> Vaishnavaites call as Narayana, Shaivaites as Shiva,

> Shaktas as Devi, etc. No matter what form we give to

> the reality, there is JUST ONE SUPREME REALITY.

>

> The example that is often cited is of a mother

> having the picture of her son to remember him while

> he is away. There many be many pictures of him in

> different attires. He is still her son and all the

> pictures of the son reminds her of him. But when the

> son returns

> back, the picture is of no use. She can directly see

> the son and hence what is the use of the picture. In

> a similar way, thinking of God in name and form is

> till we cannot have a direct perception of DIVINITY.

> For a realized soul, pictures and names are of no

> use.

> To realize God we need to go beyond name and form.

>

> Bhagavat Gita has been written by Sage Vyasa, who

> has also written so many Puranas. Each purana

> praises the one diety and pulls down the other.

> Bhagavat Gita as written by Vyasa, is a condensation

> of the Upanishad teaching. So it should be read not

> just as a dialogue between a person Arjuna and

> Krishna, rather as a dialogue between jeevatma and

> Paramatma. Surely, BG has to be read as it is.

> Nobody wants to modify it. But interpretations are

> different, depending on the philosophy preached by

> the commentator. Interestingly, the BG commentary by

> Sri Paramahamsa Yogananda, beautifully describes,

> each personality in the war as qualities in us,

> which have to lose or win before we attain

> realization.

>

> I would kindly request everyone to read the

> following from the website for profvk, who is also a

> member from our group. We are fortunate to have him

> in our group. They are excellent write ups on

> several topics on Hinduism. One of them [the link

> below], about the concept of GOD as seen by people

> of different beliefs. It is a good one and must

> read.

>

http://www.geocities.com/profvk/VK2/ConceptofGOD.html

>

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make

> PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

October 5, 2006

Hari OM!

Dear all,

We can call Water, in different languages in different sounding names, like Vellam in Malayalam, Thanni in Tamil, Neeru in Kannada or Telugu.Paani in Hindi, Is the

water changes because of name? But if somebody want to implement if you call Water only

(Like Jesus alone/......Allah alone....... it is like saying Water alone or Tanni alone)

Water is water, then, that is foolishness and fanaticism.

Hare Guruvayurappa Krishna

with Love & OM!

Krishna Prasad

On 10/5/06, KEERTHI KUMAR V MENON <keerthibai wrote:

Ohm Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya; Ohm Namo NarrayanayaDear All,I think its better to stop unnecessary arguments onDasavathara. We have discussed about this subjectbefore also. Our ISKON believers words and arguments

will hurt our ordinary believers concepts andinterests. Live both of them in their own way. RegardsKeerthi KumarBahrainOhm Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya; Ohm Namo Narrayanaya --- Krishnadaya <krishnadaya wrote:

> Bhagavane Guruvayoorappa,> > Thousands of Your 'Padasevakas' are rushing to> Guruvayoor temple only to worship Your divine> 'Vigraham' . They are interested in Your> Bhakti-yoga alone and nothing else . To them, > Srimad Bhagavatam , Bhagavat Geeta and Srimad> Narayaneeyam are Your literary incarnations ; and> not "mythological books" . Narayaneeyam clearly> specifies You as the Supreme Personality of Godhead

> . Your Padasevakas faithfully follow Narayaneeyam> ( since it has Your stamp of approval) in letter> and spirit . They are least worried , if someone> ridicules this as 'fanaticism' or ' ignorance' .

> > Your great Bhaktas like Poontanam Tirumeni and> Kurooramma were not Jnana-Yogis ; but You mercifully> blessed them with self realization . And unlike some> selfish jnana-seekers, they have not abandoned

> 'Guruvayoorappa-vigraham' thereafter . In fact ,> they continued to be Your loyal Bhaktas, till their> last breath . O Bhagavan, please bless Your> unskilled-Bhaktas like us to attain and sustain > such a bhakti . > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya !!!> > A humble servant . > >-------------------------> >

rsunitaa wrote….> > We have been through the discussion of the ISCKON> philosophy several times and have had heated> discussions over it. We condemned fanatism in other> religions and agreed that Hinduism is also not free

> of it. > > This is an example of existance of fanatism in Hindu> culture. [Fanatism is saying that the form of GOD> worshipped by that group is the only form of GOD]. I> think there is no point arguing over it all over

> again. I would kindly request learned members of> this group to ignore it. > > There is just one Supreme Godhead of reality as> ISKCON calls it. But we call that reality in> different names. ISKCON calls it as Krishna,

> Vaishnavaites call as Narayana, Shaivaites as Shiva,> Shaktas as Devi, etc. No matter what form we give to> the reality, there is JUST ONE SUPREME REALITY. > > The example that is often cited is of a mother

> having the picture of her son to remember him while> he is away. There many be many pictures of him in> different attires. He is still her son and all the> pictures of the son reminds her of him. But when the

> son returns > back, the picture is of no use. She can directly see> the son and hence what is the use of the picture. In> a similar way, thinking of God in name and form is> till we cannot have a direct perception of DIVINITY.

> For a realized soul, pictures and names are of no> use. > To realize God we need to go beyond name and form.> > > Bhagavat Gita has been written by Sage Vyasa, who> has also written so many Puranas. Each purana

> praises the one diety and pulls down the other.> Bhagavat Gita as written by Vyasa, is a condensation> of the Upanishad teaching. So it should be read not> just as a dialogue between a person Arjuna and

> Krishna, rather as a dialogue between jeevatma and> Paramatma. Surely, BG has to be read as it is.> Nobody wants to modify it. But interpretations are> different, depending on the philosophy preached by

> the commentator. Interestingly, the BG commentary by> Sri Paramahamsa Yogananda, beautifully describes,> each personality in the war as qualities in us,> which have to lose or win before we attain

> realization.> > I would kindly request everyone to read the> following from the website for profvk, who is also a> member from our group. We are fortunate to have him> in our group. They are excellent write ups on

> several topics on Hinduism. One of them [the link> below], about the concept of GOD as seen by people> of different beliefs. It is a good one and must> read.> >

http://www.geocities.com/profvk/VK2/ConceptofGOD.html> > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make> PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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October 7, 2006

Jai Sreekrishna I also fully support Shri Keerthiji. Earlier also there were discussions in this forum regarding Dashavataram. Let each and everyone follow their own concept and worship the Lord who is available in Thunilum, Thurumpilum and be happy. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings Humbly Syamala KEERTHI KUMAR V MENON <keerthibai wrote:

Ohm Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya; Ohm Namo NarrayanayaDear All,I think its better to stop unnecessary arguments onDasavathara. We have discussed about this subjectbefore also. Our ISKON believers words and argumentswill hurt our ordinary believers concepts andinterests. Live both of them in their own way. RegardsKeerthi KumarBahrainOhm Namo Bhagavathe Vasudevaya; Ohm Namo Narrayanaya--- Krishnadaya <krishnadaya > wrote:> Bhagavane Guruvayoorappa,> > Thousands of Your ‘Padasevakas’ are rushing to> Guruvayoor temple only to worship Your divine> ‘Vigraham’ . They are interested in Your> Bhakti-yoga alone and nothing else . To them, > Srimad Bhagavatam , Bhagavat Geeta and Srimad> Narayaneeyam are Your literary incarnations ; and> not “mythological books” . Narayaneeyam

clearly> specifies You as the Supreme Personality of Godhead> . Your Padasevakas faithfully follow Narayaneeyam> ( since it has Your stamp of approval) in letter> and spirit . They are least worried , if someone> ridicules this as ‘fanaticism’ or ‘ ignorance’ .> > Your great Bhaktas like Poontanam Tirumeni and> Kurooramma were not Jnana-Yogis ; but You mercifully> blessed them with self realization . And unlike some> selfish jnana-seekers, they have not abandoned> ‘Guruvayoorappa-vigraham’ thereafter . In fact ,> they continued to be Your loyal Bhaktas, till their> last breath . O Bhagavan, please bless Your> unskilled-Bhaktas like us to attain and sustain > such a bhakti . > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya !!!> > A humble servant . >

>-------------------------> > rsunitaa wrote….> > We have been through the discussion of the ISCKON> philosophy several times and have had heated> discussions over it. We condemned fanatism in other> religions and agreed that Hinduism is also not free> of it. > > This is an example of existance of fanatism in Hindu> culture. [Fanatism is saying that the form of GOD> worshipped by that group is the only form of GOD]. I> think there is no point arguing over it all over> again. I would kindly request learned members of> this group to ignore it. > > There is just one Supreme Godhead of reality as> ISKCON calls it. But we call that reality in> different names. ISKCON calls it as Krishna,> Vaishnavaites call as

Narayana, Shaivaites as Shiva,> Shaktas as Devi, etc. No matter what form we give to> the reality, there is JUST ONE SUPREME REALITY. > > The example that is often cited is of a mother> having the picture of her son to remember him while> he is away. There many be many pictures of him in> different attires. He is still her son and all the> pictures of the son reminds her of him. But when the> son returns > back, the picture is of no use. She can directly see> the son and hence what is the use of the picture. In> a similar way, thinking of God in name and form is> till we cannot have a direct perception of DIVINITY.> For a realized soul, pictures and names are of no> use. > To realize God we need to go beyond name and form.> > > Bhagavat Gita has been written by Sage Vyasa, who> has also written so many Puranas. Each purana>

praises the one diety and pulls down the other.> Bhagavat Gita as written by Vyasa, is a condensation> of the Upanishad teaching. So it should be read not> just as a dialogue between a person Arjuna and> Krishna, rather as a dialogue between jeevatma and> Paramatma. Surely, BG has to be read as it is.> Nobody wants to modify it. But interpretations are> different, depending on the philosophy preached by> the commentator. Interestingly, the BG commentary by> Sri Paramahamsa Yogananda, beautifully describes,> each personality in the war as qualities in us,> which have to lose or win before we attain> realization.> > I would kindly request everyone to read the> following from the website for profvk, who is also a> member from our group. We are fortunate to have him> in our group. They are excellent write ups on> several topics on Hinduism. One of them

[the link> below], about the concept of GOD as seen by people> of different beliefs. It is a good one and must> read.> >http://www.geocities.com/profvk/VK2/ConceptofGOD.html> > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make> PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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