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October 24, 2006

A reasonable doubt that can arise to anybody.I am not well versed in scriptures like you.Still what I feel the human evoloution has not reached that stage as to consider that all is Brahman and in such a case there is no necessity for you to say Shri Krishna Saranam Mama.So we hv not reached that stage when we can perceive all as Oneness.For theory we can say but not in practice.We can quote from Upanishads and Gita so many things abt Brahman.But who is Brahman?We don't know and only the Realised Souls can say that and they won't since we can't understand the niceties of the same.So as far as the humanity is concerned unless one reaches the stage of Brahman or whatever name we call we accept duality.So naturally we turn to our Ishta Devata for Mercy to lift us up from the troubles which we may face.When things are going well nobody bothers to hv mercy and when only in bad times people go to God for help.It is a natural thing.So

unless we get ourselves advanced in spiritualism and thru yogic practices as prescribed and by raising the Kundalini power which lies dormant in all beings and by the Grace of a Sat Guru raise the same and thru his gudance when the power pierces all the six phlexes and reach the Sahasrara in the head then we become Brahman and Oneness with the Creator and then there is no necessity for any giver and taker. Till that time we hv to depend on God whom we consider as the Bestower of Mercy and we as the receiver for our ills.Even Bhattathiri had to beg the mercy of Sri Guruvayurappan to cure him of his illness and the result was the euology of Sri Krishna in the form of Narayaneeyam.We hv not reached that stage and so we hv to depend on the Mercy of God only for our problems.This is happening everyday in every one's life.Quoting Upanishad and Gita may be ok for knowing the showing of knowledge but that won't

ultimately help without Bhakthy in the initial stages as we are only in that stage and hv not crossed that.If this can be understood well, there is no necessity for such queries.Anyway you hv raised certain doubts and this is the answer.There may be better persons to give more detailed explanations but with my poor knowledge of scriptures this what came to my mind.I don't accept thanks in advance as I hv not made any comments but only explained for your query what I feel. Hare Krishna.krishnadasa77 <krishnadasa77 wrote: I have a query with respect to this....If everything is Brahman as it is stated in Upanishad:---sarvaM khalvidaM brahmasarva - whole, entire, allkhalu - indeed, trulyidam - this, known, present, this earthly world- All this (universe) is verily BrahmanChandogya Upanishad Ch. 3 Section 14 Verse 1---Who is giving the Mercy and who is receiving it? Does it confirm this verse from Bhagavad-Gita 4:24 (http://www.asitis.com/4/24.html)?brahmarpanam brahma havirbrahmagnau brahmana hutambrahmaiva tena gantavyambrahma-karma-samadhinaThanks in advance for your comments.. Shree Krishna Sharanam

Mama!~Krishnadasa.

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October 25, 2006

What Agraman has written has perfectly answered the question.Still I feel that I would answer at the same time what Keishnadasa has asked, ie. what sankara has said in explanation of the verse quoted from Gita and upanishad. "Sarvam khalu idham brahma"means that everything is Brahman as it is said 'sadheva soumya idham agra Aseeth EkamEva advitheetyam,' all this was sathie.Brahman in the beginning , one only without a second. And also 'yatho va imani bhoothani jayanthe yene jaathaani jeevathi yasmin abhisamvisanthi thadh vijinjasasva thadh brahma,' from whom all these beingsemerge, by whom all are sustained and into whom all merge back, know that to be Brahman. All theses statements can be interpreted on the line of advaita, visishtadvaita and dvaita.Howevr it is done the truthis the same.Only the descriptions are different.To describe something which cannot be described, 'Yatho vaacho nivarthanthe apraapya mansaa saha' both speech

and mind return without undefrstanding it, the acharyas out of mercy for mankind who are ignorant and do not possess even a fraction of their intelligence have tried to eplain the inexplicable like explaining relativity theory to a kindergarden child because unless man has some knowledge about the truth he will not strive to attain it. So it is only to create interest. The absolute reality, call it Brahman, God or Narayana, is one and allpervading like the sun and it appears differently to different people dependin on the way one looks at it. RAMAKRISHNA EXPERIMENTED WITH ALL RELIGIONS AND PHILOSOPHY AND GAVE THE VERDICT THAT ALL WERE RIGHT. Advaita appeals to the intellect,visishtadvaita to the mind and dvaita to the body. As man is a mixture of all the three we need all the three perspectives for our progress.I will elaborate on this on a separate post as I wrote what came to my mind spontaneously and don't have time now to think as

this is a deeper subject than it appears. saroja Ramanujam GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote: A reasonable doubt that can arise to anybody.I am not well versed in scriptures like you.Still what I feel the human evoloution has not reached that stage as to consider that all is Brahman and in such a case there is no necessity for you to say Shri Krishna Saranam Mama.So we hv not reached that stage when we can perceive all as Oneness.For theory we can say but not in

practice.We can quote from Upanishads and Gita so many things abt Brahman.But who is Brahman?We don't know and only the Realised Souls can say that and they won't since we can't understand the niceties of the same.So as far as the humanity is concerned unless one reaches the stage of Brahman or whatever name we call we accept duality.So naturally we turn to our Ishta Devata for Mercy to lift us up from the troubles which we may face.When things are going well nobody bothers to hv mercy and when only in bad times people go to God for help.It is a natural thing.So unless we get ourselves advanced in spiritualism and thru yogic practices as prescribed and by raising the Kundalini power which lies dormant in all beings and by the Grace of a Sat Guru raise the same and thru his gudance when the power pierces all the six phlexes and reach the Sahasrara in the head then we become Brahman and Oneness with the Creator and then there is no

necessity for any giver and taker. Till that time we hv to depend on God whom we consider as the Bestower of Mercy and we as the receiver for our ills.Even Bhattathiri had to beg the mercy of Sri Guruvayurappan to cure him of his illness and the result was the euology of Sri Krishna in the form of Narayaneeyam.We hv not reached that stage and so we hv to depend on the Mercy of God only for our problems.This is happening everyday in every one's life.Quoting Upanishad and Gita may be ok for knowing the showing of knowledge but that won't ultimately help without Bhakthy in the initial stages as we are only in that stage and hv not crossed that.If this can be understood well, there is no necessity for such queries.Anyway you hv raised certain doubts and this is the answer.There may be better persons to give more detailed explanations but with my poor knowledge of scriptures this what came to my

mind.I don't accept thanks in advance as I hv not made any comments but only explained for your query what I feel. Hare Krishna.krishnadasa77 <krishnadasa77 > wrote: I have a query with respect to this....If everything is Brahman as it is stated in Upanishad:---sarvaM khalvidaM brahmasarva - whole, entire, allkhalu - indeed, trulyidam - this, known, present, this earthly world- All this (universe) is verily BrahmanChandogya Upanishad Ch. 3 Section 14 Verse 1---Who is giving the Mercy and who is receiving it? Does it confirm this verse from Bhagavad-Gita 4:24 (http://www.asitis.com/4/24.html)?brahmarpanam brahma havirbrahmagnau brahmana

hutambrahmaiva tena gantavyambrahma-karma-samadhinaThanks in advance for your comments.. Shree Krishna Sharanam Mama!~Krishnadasa. Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW May god bless you, Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit.

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