[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] yajna, dharma & Sisyphus

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A very good topic raised by Balagopal.Happiness is a state of mind.For a child playing with toys will give happiness.For a philonthrophist giving charity gives happiness.For a thief how much he got by stealing gives happiness.For a bhaktha praying the Iswara gives happiness.And the list can be endless.Same is the case with unhappiness.A student who fails in the exams gives unhappiness.A job seeker not getting a job gives him the same and so on so forth.So there can't be any parameters in this respect.What is happiness may be unhappiness for another and can be quoted lot of instances.But how long such happiness or unhappiness survive the test of time all depends on one's mind set up. Of course Bhagawan says in so many places abt dharma and yajna and I think this we hv already discussed in detail.Reg,the quotes abt desires desire is a hankering of the mind for objects that are invisible and not yet

obtained,while passion is the clinging and craving for the visible and obtained objects.That strength is abused which is directed towards the fulfilment of desire and passion On the other hand,the strength utilized on noble causes gets sanctified.The doings of Ravana and Rama are examples of the abuse and proper use of strength.Desire as such is not a vice.The desire to eat is a sanctioned one,when it is prompted by hunger.The desire for self-emulation is a virtue.,the desire to excel another in good conduct is laudable.The keen desire to obtain the grace of the Lord is a divine gift and a prelude to God-vision.Sri Rama Krishna says 'why does the mind deviate when one sits in meditation?It is due to base desires.A fly sits now on a sacramental food and next on filth.But the case of bee is different.It sits on a blossom or its hive and nowhere else.The worldly minded sadhakas are like the house fly and the

Paramahamsas like the bee. The former are occasionally devoted and the latter ever devoted to the Lord'. That is the difference. With regard to the other quote that the world is bound by actions other than those performed for the sake of Yajna competition,co-operation and self - dedication are the three ways in which the beings make life a fulfillment.The lowest order of creation exists by sheer competition.In this stage the struggle for existence is an endless one.The physically strong and the fittest thrive and prosper while the weak and feeble are either left in the background or out.This law of the survival of the fittest inexhorably prevails in life at the physical level. Plants,birds,beasts bear testimony to it. In the life at the mental plane cruel competition gets minimized.Intelligent co-operation gains ground here.This is what we call social life.Man is a social

being though corporate life is not his exclusive prerogative.Other beings also found very well at it.Corporate life is more conducive to growth and progress than the competitive one.The civilization of man is mainly based on his gregarious instinct Collective peace and security are the bases for prosperity and progress.Man enjoys these advantages more than the lower order of creation. Self dedication is the highest law of life.It prevails at the ethical and spiritual planes.It is given to the enligtenment man alone to practice self-dedication.The act of offering the best and the most useful in one for the welfare of the others is self-dedication.Both the giver and the receiver stand to gain thru this sacred act. This bounteous act goes by the name of ' yajna' which literally means sacrifice. As fresh water springs out from an emptied

well,the man who performs 'yajna' becomes more and more enlightened and prosperous.By imparting one's learning to others the capacity to teach increases.By sharing one's knowledge and wisdom with the others one's fund of knowledge and wisdom increases.By sharing wealth with all those who hv been responible for its growth,security and further expansion are ensured.Giving effect to this inviolable law of nature is the practice of 'Yajna".Meritorious act untainted by selfishness,disinterested service work of any kind performed for general welfare.adoration of the Almighty,ethical and spiritual endeavours-all these salutary activities are contained in Yajna. So too dedicating oneself exclusively to spritual life amouns to the performance of yajna.So many other things can be quoted.It is the attitude that transforms the soul-entangling karma into the soul-emancipating yajna.Divinity

reveals itself best where 'Yajna' takes place.That 'Yajna is Vishnu' is an Upanishadic statement.So there need be no frustration. There is no problem if one tries to follow some of the things mentioned and similar things there can certainly be salvation.There be no doubt abt the same. Of course there can be better opinions from the learned Members and we can welcome the same also.I do appreciate Balagopal you always raise some good topic which makes the forum more alive. Hare Krishna, agraman. balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote: HARI AUM‘YAJNA’ and ‘DHARMA’ are words repeated many timesover in the ‘Gita’. They have a very specialsignificance. As we go through the life and mission ofour Bhagavan we can notice the emphasis he had put onthese two aspects of living. He lived the example. Thepower it generates is more enduring. When one’sactions are more of ‘yajnic’ in nature it becomes more‘dharmic’ and produces more effective results (dharmorakshati rakshathaha). Here the key is ‘effective’ notjust ‘efficient’. One can be ‘efficient’ but need notbe ‘effective’. This is a prime reason for very many‘unhappiness’. ‘Happiness’ is the state everyoneyearns, aspires, strives and fights for.

Ultimatelywhen one reaches the other side he feels that theprevious side is more greener. This is the tragedy ofnot adhering to the principles of ‘dharma’. He isdestined to keep changing the tacks. Is this‘Sisyphian’ activity taking us somewhere? Is there away out? Bhagavan says:‘balam balavatham chaham kamaragavivarjhithamdharmavirudho bhutheshu kamosmi bharatharshabha’(verse 11 chapter 7)-qualifies the ‘desires’‘yajnarthathkarmanonyatra lokoyam karmabandhanahathathartham karma kaunteya muktha sanga samachara’ (verse 9 chapter 3)-type of ‘action’ to be done to achieve the qualified‘desires’ RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers./

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The best yajna for this age is 'Sankirtana Yajna' as stated in Srimad-Bhagavatam: --- Krishna Varnam Tvisha Akrishnam Sangopanga Astra Paarshadam Yajnaih Sankirtanaih Prayair Yajanti Hy Sumedhasah "In the age of Kali, intelligent persons perform congregational chanting to worship the incarnation of Godhead who constantly sings the names of Krishna. Although His complexion is not blackish, He is Krishna Himself. He is accompanied by His associates, servants, weapons and confidential companions." - http://srimadbhagavatam.com/11/5/32/en - SB 11.5.32 --- And of course, Krishna says in Bhagavad-Gita that "Yajnanam Japa Yajnosmi" - "Among

the yajnas I am the Japa Yajna" as: --- maharsinam bhrgur aham giram asmy ekam aksaram yajnanam japa-yajno 'smi sthavaranam himalayah "Of the great sages I am Bhrgu; of vibrations I am the transcendental om. Of sacrifices I am the chanting of the holy names [japa], and of immovable things I am the Himalayas." - http://www.asitis.com/10/25.html - BG 10.25 --- What more to say when the scriptures themselves are recommending us this Yajna! Shree Krishna Sharanam Mama! ~Krishnadasa. GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote: A very good topic raised by Balagopal.Happiness is a state of mind.For a child playing with toys will give happiness.For a philonthrophist giving charity gives happiness.For a thief how much he got by stealing gives happiness.For a bhaktha praying the Iswara gives happiness.And the list can be endless.Same is the case with unhappiness.A student who fails in the exams gives unhappiness.A job seeker not getting a job gives him the same and so on so forth.So there can't be any parameters in this respect.What is happiness may be unhappiness for another and can be quoted lot of instances.But how long such happiness or unhappiness survive the

test of time all depends on one's mind set up. Of course Bhagawan says in so many places abt dharma and yajna and I think this we hv already discussed in detail.Reg,the quotes abt desires desire is a hankering of the mind for objects that are invisible and not yet obtained,while passion is the clinging and craving for the visible and obtained objects.That strength is abused which is directed towards the fulfilment of desire and passion On the other hand,the strength utilized on noble causes gets sanctified.The doings of Ravana and Rama are examples of the abuse and proper use of strength.Desire as such is not a vice.The desire to eat is a sanctioned one,when it is prompted by hunger.The desire for self-emulation is a virtue.,the desire to excel another in good conduct is laudable.The keen desire to obtain the grace of the Lord is a divine gift and a prelude to

God-vision.Sri Rama Krishna says 'why does the mind deviate when one sits in meditation?It is due to base desires.A fly sits now on a sacramental food and next on filth.But the case of bee is different.It sits on a blossom or its hive and nowhere else.The worldly minded sadhakas are like the house fly and the Paramahamsas like the bee. The former are occasionally devoted and the latter ever devoted to the Lord'. That is the difference. With regard to the other quote that the world is bound by actions other than those performed for the sake of Yajna competition,co-operation and self - dedication are the three ways in which the beings make life a fulfillment.The lowest order of creation exists by sheer competition.In this stage the struggle for existence is an endless one.The physically strong and the fittest thrive and prosper while the weak and feeble are either left in the background

or out.This law of the survival of the fittest inexhorably prevails in life at the physical level. Plants,birds,beasts bear testimony to it. In the life at the mental plane cruel competition gets minimized.Intelligent co-operation gains ground here.This is what we call social life.Man is a social being though corporate life is not his exclusive prerogative.Other beings also found very well at it.Corporate life is more conducive to growth and progress than the competitive one.The civilization of man is mainly based on his gregarious instinct Collective peace and security are the bases for prosperity and progress.Man enjoys these advantages more than the lower order of creation. Self dedication is the highest law of life.It prevails at the ethical and spiritual planes.It is given to the enligtenment man alone to practice

self-dedication.The act of offering the best and the most useful in one for the welfare of the others is self-dedication.Both the giver and the receiver stand to gain thru this sacred act. This bounteous act goes by the name of ' yajna' which literally means sacrifice. As fresh water springs out from an emptied well,the man who performs 'yajna' becomes more and more enlightened and prosperous.By imparting one's learning to others the capacity to teach increases.By sharing one's knowledge and wisdom with the others one's fund of knowledge and wisdom increases.By sharing wealth with all those who hv been responible for its growth,security and further expansion are ensured.Giving effect to this inviolable law of nature is the practice of 'Yajna".Meritorious act untainted by selfishness,disinterested service work of any kind performed for general

welfare.adoration of the Almighty,ethical and spiritual endeavours-all these salutary activities are contained in Yajna. So too dedicating oneself exclusively to spritual life amouns to the performance of yajna.So many other things can be quoted.It is the attitude that transforms the soul-entangling karma into the soul-emancipating yajna.Divinity reveals itself best where 'Yajna' takes place.That 'Yajna is Vishnu' is an Upanishadic statement.So there need be no frustration. There is no problem if one tries to follow some of the things mentioned and similar things there can certainly be salvation.There be no doubt abt the same. Of course there can be better opinions from the learned Members and we can welcome the same also.I do appreciate Balagopal you always raise some good topic which makes the forum more alive. Hare Krishna, agraman. balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: HARI AUM‘YAJNA’ and ‘DHARMA’ are words repeated many timesover in the ‘Gita’. They have a very specialsignificance. As we go through the life and mission ofour Bhagavan we can notice the emphasis he had put onthese two aspects of living. He lived the example. Thepower it generates is more enduring. When one’sactions are more of ‘yajnic’ in nature it becomes more‘dharmic’ and produces more effective results (dharmorakshati rakshathaha). Here the key is ‘effective’ notjust ‘efficient’. One can be ‘efficient’ but need notbe ‘effective’. This is a prime reason for very many‘unhappiness’. ‘Happiness’ is the state everyoneyearns, aspires, strives and fights for. Ultimatelywhen one

reaches the other side he feels that theprevious side is more greener. This is the tragedy ofnot adhering to the principles of ‘dharma’. He isdestined to keep changing the tacks. Is this‘Sisyphian’ activity taking us somewhere? Is there away out? Bhagavan says:‘balam balavatham chaham kamaragavivarjhithamdharmavirudho bhutheshu kamosmi bharatharshabha’(verse 11 chapter 7)-qualifies the ‘desires’‘yajnarthathkarmanonyatra lokoyam karmabandhanahathathartham karma kaunteya muktha sanga samachara’ (verse 9 chapter 3)-type of ‘action’ to be done to achieve the qualified‘desires’ RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something newhttp://in.answers./ Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW

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A verynice article on desire and yajna.I will post my views separately. sarojaramanujamGANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62 wrote: A very good topic raised by Balagopal.Happiness is a state of mind.For a child playing with toys will give happiness.For a philonthrophist giving charity gives happiness.For a thief how much he got by stealing gives happiness.For a bhaktha praying the Iswara gives happiness.And the list can be endless.Same is the case with unhappiness.A student who

fails in the exams gives unhappiness.A job seeker not getting a job gives him the same and so on so forth.So there can't be any parameters in this respect.What is happiness may be unhappiness for another and can be quoted lot of instances.But how long such happiness or unhappiness survive the test of time all depends on one's mind set up. Of course Bhagawan says in so many places abt dharma and yajna and I think this we hv already discussed in detail.Reg,the quotes abt desires desire is a hankering of the mind for objects that are invisible and not yet obtained,while passion is the clinging and craving for the visible and obtained objects.That strength is abused which is directed towards the fulfilment of desire and passion On the other hand,the strength utilized on noble causes gets sanctified.The doings of Ravana and Rama are examples of the abuse and proper use of strength.Desire as such is not a vice.The desire to eat is a sanctioned one,when it is prompted by hunger.The desire for self-emulation is a virtue.,the desire to excel another in good conduct is laudable.The keen desire to obtain the grace of the Lord is a divine gift and a prelude to God-vision.Sri Rama Krishna says 'why does the mind deviate when one sits in meditation?It is due to base desires.A fly sits now on a sacramental food and next on filth.But the case of bee is different.It sits on a blossom or its hive and nowhere else.The worldly minded sadhakas are like the house fly and the Paramahamsas like the bee. The former are occasionally devoted and the latter ever devoted to the Lord'. That is the difference. With regard to the other quote that the world is bound by actions other than those performed for the sake of Yajna competition,co-operation and self - dedication are the three

ways in which the beings make life a fulfillment.The lowest order of creation exists by sheer competition.In this stage the struggle for existence is an endless one.The physically strong and the fittest thrive and prosper while the weak and feeble are either left in the background or out.This law of the survival of the fittest inexhorably prevails in life at the physical level. Plants,birds,beasts bear testimony to it. In the life at the mental plane cruel competition gets minimized.Intelligent co-operation gains ground here.This is what we call social life.Man is a social being though corporate life is not his exclusive prerogative.Other beings also found very well at it.Corporate life is more conducive to growth and progress than the competitive one.The civilization of man is mainly based on his gregarious instinct Collective peace and security are the bases

for prosperity and progress.Man enjoys these advantages more than the lower order of creation. Self dedication is the highest law of life.It prevails at the ethical and spiritual planes.It is given to the enligtenment man alone to practice self-dedication.The act of offering the best and the most useful in one for the welfare of the others is self-dedication.Both the giver and the receiver stand to gain thru this sacred act. This bounteous act goes by the name of ' yajna' which literally means sacrifice. As fresh water springs out from an emptied well,the man who performs 'yajna' becomes more and more enlightened and prosperous.By imparting one's learning to others the capacity to teach increases.By sharing one's knowledge and wisdom with the others one's fund of knowledge and wisdom increases.By sharing wealth with all those

who hv been responible for its growth,security and further expansion are ensured.Giving effect to this inviolable law of nature is the practice of 'Yajna".Meritorious act untainted by selfishness,disinterested service work of any kind performed for general welfare.adoration of the Almighty,ethical and spiritual endeavours-all these salutary activities are contained in Yajna. So too dedicating oneself exclusively to spritual life amouns to the performance of yajna.So many other things can be quoted.It is the attitude that transforms the soul-entangling karma into the soul-emancipating yajna.Divinity reveals itself best where 'Yajna' takes place.That 'Yajna is Vishnu' is an Upanishadic statement.So there need be no frustration. There is no problem if one tries to follow some of the things mentioned and similar things there can certainly be salvation.There be no doubt abt the same. Of course

there can be better opinions from the learned Members and we can welcome the same also.I do appreciate Balagopal you always raise some good topic which makes the forum more alive. Hare Krishna, agraman. balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: HARI AUM?YAJNA? and ?DHARMA? are words repeated many timesover in the ?Gita?. They have a very specialsignificance. As we go through the life and mission ofour Bhagavan we can notice the emphasis he had put onthese two aspects of living. He lived the example. Thepower it generates is more enduring. When one?sactions are more of ?yajnic? in nature it becomes more?dharmic? and produces more effective results (dharmorakshati rakshathaha).

Here the key is ?effective? notjust ?efficient?. One can be ?efficient? but need notbe ?effective?. This is a prime reason for very many?unhappiness?. ?Happiness? is the state everyoneyearns, aspires, strives and fights for. Ultimatelywhen one reaches the other side he feels that theprevious side is more greener. This is the tragedy ofnot adhering to the principles of ?dharma?. He isdestined to keep changing the tacks. Is this?Sisyphian? activity taking us somewhere? Is there away out? Bhagavan says:?balam balavatham chaham kamaragavivarjhithamdharmavirudho bhutheshu kamosmi bharatharshabha?(verse 11 chapter 7)-qualifies the ?desires??yajnarthathkarmanonyatra lokoyam karmabandhanahathathartham karma kaunteya muktha sanga samachara? (verse 9 chapter 3)-type of ?action? to be done to achieve the qualified?desires? RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA

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What is sisyphus?balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote: HARI AUMShree Ganapathy Raman's following statement: "A fly sits now on a sacramental food and next onfilth. But the case of bee is different.It sits on ablossom or its hive and nowhere else."in his piece on the above topic succintly explainsthe 'conditioned' state of 'living'. One can choose tobe a 'fly' or a 'bee'. Nature provides for all typesof desire fulfillment.RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA

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