[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Group posting rules.

November 29, 2006

Sunil has clinched the matter and taken a wise and practical deision. As he saysmoderators are not poilce folks and we should not create headache for them when we get such mails which have nothing to do with our spitritual progress.It is the responsibility of the members to keep the atmostphere of the group unpolluted and Sunil and other moderators cannot be always burdened with the task of pruning the posts .The moderators normally intervene only when there is unpleasantness in the mails between members arguing or when there is something obnoxious. In other groups also such irrelevant mail comes but that is minimal and the members delete them when they arrive at the mail box.I suggest that we do the same in future if something else like this happens which is unlikely as Sunil has defined the code of ethics in posting to the group.But it could come from some nonmembers as a kind of spam or some one who joins just for that purpose. It has happened in my groups and

I coolly remove them from the group when I see that they have nothing in common with the other members. Saroja RamanujamSunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote: Dear Devotee members,The vote is out and majority of replies suggests us to stick withGuruvayoor and Bhakti related matters.So, let us stick with Guruvayoor and Bhakti related topics MOST of thetime. As Sarojaji aptly pointed out, there are many groups out therefor other topics but not many for Bhakti. So, please cherish

our smallgroup.Topics and news articles with SIGNIFICANT educational value are stillwelcome. Like the important events in member's lives, prayerrequests, Dengue fever remedy, mails like why 'Our Mother is truly OurFirst God' or 'Pooja finding her parents' etc. Because we are God'sdevotees and we can't avoid Dharma and Seva.At the same time, please avoid articles that anyone can read elsewhere like jokes etc. Let us avoid hatred & ego clashes among members, religious propaganda and topics that has no merit to our group of Guruvayoor Bhaktas.I request all of you to think twice before sending any articles to thegroup. Please do not make moderators life difficult by sending mailsthat has no place in our group. We are not POLICE folks but humbleGuruvayoor devotees like you. So, please be considerate about ourtime and bhakti. I pass the responsibility of deciding what is rightfor our group to you and use that

responsibility before you send anything. It is easy, if you think our group as your own family.Another subgroup for motivational and non-bhakti educational matters is being created and interested members can join and share articlesthere. I will send a separate mail for the same.Thanks to Ganapathy Ramanji for starting this discussion.Following is the description of the group that we at the group web site.----------Guruvayur group is a place for Guruvayoorappan/Krishna devotees todiscuss devotional matters. We share our experiences * discuss bhakti* ask questions * clear our doubts * and make friends with otherdevotees from around the world.----------Let us all hope to GROW SPIRITUALLY RICH with the help of our groupand get closer to God Almighty.I pray Guruvayoorappan to bless our group and help us move ahead inthe right path.May God bless you all.Om Namo

Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Syamala Nair <syamalaraghunathwrote:>> Jai Sreekrishna> > Dear all> > Personally speaking, I have nothing against publishing articles related to subjects other than Bhakti once in a while. But thensuch articles should be educative and should not lead to any kind ofhot arguments among the members. However, we must not forgetthat the main aim of this forum is to discuss the glories of ourKannan and we must stick to the same. > > Shri Sreedharji quite often send very educative articles tomention one or two, "your attitude can do wonders", "save MotherEarth" etc. I welcome such articles. The poem he furnished also highlight an advise i.e,. BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE" > > As for me, if some articles are not to my taste, I just

ignorethem. After all everyone has the freedom to accept or reject> > I also agree with our respected Sarojaji that there are manygroups that cater to the interest of youngsters and by publishingnon bhkati topics no one can attract them to this group and that noyoungsters will take interest in this Group unless and until he/shehas a mind inclined to Lord and HIS Bhakti. This attitude one has todevelop with Sravanam, Keertanam and Satsang and for developing thisthe atmosphere at house plays a very important role. A child growingup in an atmosphere, where the parents are spiritually minded, shalldevelop such attitudes and shall take interest in gorups like this.> > So let us concentrate mainly on topics meant for this group> > Pardon me if I am wrong> > Humbly> Syamala> > > > Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote:> Dear

Devotees,> > Thank you to all of you responded and expressed their opinion.> > But, I would like to hear from more members. Please do not feel that> your reply has to be 'politically correct' along with other member's> view point. > > We are getting bigger as a group and we have people with varied> interests, backgrounds and opinion. Five people wrote to me personaly> about the reasoning behind some of the recent mails being published.> Some really liked those motivational mails - like the ones our> Sridharji has contributed. Some questioned and objected about not> getting carried away from anything other than pure bhakti messages. > > And there is no confusion at my side regarding Ramanji's mail or the> subjects we needs to be included in the group. BUT, it is an open> forum of devotees and YOUR opinions are more important than mine. > > So,

we need to hear from all of you. I welcome your frank opinion and> I would like all your replies to the group rather than to me. Please.> > Let us hear from all members.> > Om Namo Narayanaya:> > Sunil.> > guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@> wrote:> >> > Hare Krishna,> > > > When considering the Majority Decision we can avoid Non-Bhakthi> topics. More to focuss on spritual topics. As it is clear now.> > > > With Love,> > Sree> > > > > > > > Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18@>> > guruvayur > > Sunday, 26 November, 2006 9:45:28 AM> > Re:

[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] KHUSH RAHO-That's right, like> the Lion King son> > > > There are so many groups that cater for the tastes of yoingsters and> just by publishing non -bhakthi topics you cannot attract them to the> group.If this sort of literature becomes very frequent it will only> turn the existing members away from the group. The other topics are> thirteen to the dozen and available everywhere and it is difficult to> find spiritual topics which are made easily available to all . It is> like classical music. If you want a larger crowd you have to entice> them by improving the quality and not by diluting it. You have to pull> them to your level and should not degrade yourself to their level. If> one is not able to find what he wants in ine group he can always> switch to other group but the group cannot be tailored to meet his> needs.Moreover bhakthi cannot be

induced by the methods like dangling> carrots in front of a horse.It should come by the grace of God. You> can to create faith among youngsters not by writng what they like but> writing what> > theyneed.Honestly I don't think that any youngster will join the> group unless he has faith and bhakthi. To him you have to give what he> looks for and not what he has already familiar with.About people who> talk about bhakthi but not act accordingly is a concern between them> and God. All the spritual books and gurus have said that if you want> spiritual progress satsanga is very important and also that the other> topics and activities which take you away from your goal must be> reduced if not avoided.The attitude should be to aim high and not look> down. A kite flies high but always looking down to see whether there> is any flesh for it to eat. The legendary chathaka bird looks up

and> drinks only rain water and woul dnot accept any other. It is for the> mambers to decide whether they want to be chathakas or ordinary kites.> > Saroja Ramanujam> > > > > > Hare rishna,> > > > The varied subjects all concerned day today happening on in our life> and it is said on different ways. In this life, we are playing on> different rolls, which we need to be act well. If we think for> sometime difficult subjects, we can take easily with simple examples.> Which are having lot of meaning? Ultimately, our goals are leads> surrendering to God.> > The Bagavatham and other Epics teaches the core meaning of life and> the system and it is very important to learn and understand on in our> life. Our Group is consisting of Diff age Group may be smaller age> group may not be digesting with out the help of Proper Guru (to>

understand the actual meaning of the same). > > If our actions, words, and deeds are good that it shows a real> Bhakthi. I have seen personally peoples will talk about Bhakthi and> God e.t.c but what their actions is very wrong.> > Of course, our main thing is Bakthi and surrendering to> Guruvayoorappan. Krishna also plays varied rolls and these rolls he> conveyed good message. What we need to learn from that?> > So I suggest we need to bring smaller age also in to our group.> Slowly they will learn the real Bakthi through the forum discussion.> Therefore, the varied subject, which is very meaningful in life, help> them also and slowly they are too learning & growing with higher> degree of the Bhakthi.> > Pl Pardon me it is just my thought conveyed.> > > > > > With Love,> > Sree > > > > > > > >

> > K.V Gopalakrishna <gopalakrishna. kv (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > guruvayur@grou ps.com> > Saturday, 25 November, 2006 11:40:52 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayo or] KHUSH RAHO-That¢s right, like> the Lion King son> > > > > > Sunil,> > Radh Krishna!> > I think there is some confusion about understanding Sri. Ganapathy> Raman's mail. I think what he has written is that diversions from> "Bhakti" are required for a change, like one takes a lick on the> pungent pickle while drinking sweet Pal Payasam. > > > > But by allowing diversions, we should ensure that we dont stray too> far away forgetting our Guruvayoorappan and concentrating on mundane> issues, which are in plenty, and which are burning issues of the day.> My personal opinion is that we should not diverge into

other> topics, but stay focusing our minds on the Lord.> > > > Love> > KVG> > > > > > > > Sunil Menon wrote: > > Dear Ramanji and other members wrote to me recently,> > > > Yes, we do have to think twice before we publish some messages .> > However, considering we have people with various backgrounds from> > different places, anything that helps to improve our day is welcome.> > Although, it has to be liked by majority of our members. If members> > like you express that we are diverting too much from Bhakti, then we> > can suggest devotees to reduce non Bhakti emails.> > > > Now that being said, I am not sure many people in this group> > understand Hindi though.> > > > I would like all of you to speak up your opinion about topics you like> > and the ones you

don't. That way it is easy for all of us know what> > you like and what you don't. Please do not send personal mails to me,> > because that way only I will know but not others. Please send it to> > the whole group, if possible.> > > > Personally, I condemn two kinds of mails, first - religious or caste> > propaganda and second - fight among member devotees and factions.> > Please remember that we are one big family and all of you are welcome> > to comment upon topics and emails.> > > > After all it is a forum of devotee members and members decide what you> > like to see here. > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya;> > > > Sunil.> > > > guruvayur@grou ps.com, GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62@ ..>> wrote:> > >> > > Nice presentations. I must thank Sunil that he is so

magnanimousthat> > the Members are allowed other things instead of confining to> > Gita,Bhagavatam and other things.So in future we can expect more and> > more of subjects other than > > > already discussed Gita and other scriptures.Well done Balagopal> > and Sreedhar.> > > Change is a part of life and more such new things shuld find a> > place instead of > > > writing only abt Bhakthy.> > > > > > agraman.> > > > > > balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal@ > wrote:> > > HARI AUM> > > > > > Here is Bobby McFerrin's popular 'don't worry be> > > happy..'> > > Read and Enjoyyyyyyyyyy. Be Happy Don't Worry...> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Balagopal> > > > > > NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA>

> > > > > At the 1988 Grammy Awards, "Don't Worry Be Happy" won> > > 'Best Song of the Year', > > > From the Movie "Cocktails" > > > Performed by Bobby McFerrin > > > > > > Don't Worry, Be Happy Lyrics> > > > > > Here is a little song I wrote > > > You might want to sing it note for note > > > Don't worry be happy > > > In every life we have some trouble > > > When you worry you make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > > > > Ain't got no place to lay your head > > > Somebody came and took your bed > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > The land lord say your rent is late > > > He may have to litigate > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Look at me I am happy > > > Don't worry, be

happy > > > Here I give you my phone number > > > When you worry call me > > > I make you happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style > > > Ain't got not girl to make you smile > > > But don't worry be happy > > > Cause when you worry > > > Your face will frown > > > And that will bring everybody down > > > So don't worry, be happy (now)..... > > > > > > There is this little song I wrote > > > I hope you learn it note for note > > > Like good little children > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Listen to what I say > > > In your life expect some trouble > > > But when you worry > > > You make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > Don't worry don't do

it, be happy > > > Put a smile on your face > > > Don't bring everybody down like this > > > Don't worry, it will soon past > > > Whatever it is > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---> > > > > > > > > --- "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > > Hare Krishna,> > > > > > > > KHUSH RAHO> > > > > > > > Zindagi hai choti , har pal mein khush raho? > > > > > > > > Office me khush reho, ghar mein khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj paneer nahi hai, dal mein hi khush raho, > > > > > > > > Aaj gym jane ka samay nahi, do kadam chal ke he> > > > khush raho.. > > > > > > > >

Aaj Dosto ka sath nahi, TV dekh ke hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghar ja nahi sakte to phone kar ke hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > Aaj koi naraaz hai, uske iss andaz mein bhi khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Jisse dekh nahi sakte uski awaz mein hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jisse paa nahi sakte uske yaad mein he khush raho > > > > > > > > MBA karne ka socha tha, S/W mein he khush raho? > > > > > > > > Laptop na mila to kya, Desktop mein hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > bita hua kal ja chuka hai, usse meeti yaadein> > > > hai,unme he khush raho.. > > > > > > > > aane wale pal ka pata nahi..sapno mein he

khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Haste haste ye pal bitaenge, aaj mein he> > > > > > > > > > > > With Love,> > > > Sree> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> > > > http://uk.messenger . > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new> > > http://in.answers. /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > Send FREE SMS to

your friend's mobile from Messenger Version> > 8. Get it NOW> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new> Mail. > > > > > > > > > > May god bless you,> > > > Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit.> > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.> > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> http://uk.messenger.> >> > > > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small

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November 29, 2006

Sunil's mail is a very touching one and I do hope all the Members will welcome his suggestions.Sunil must hv taken great pains to build this Group dedicated to Bhagavan Sri Guruvayurappan and His leelas and the same shuld be accepted in true sense.Regarding the other Group abt the motivated mails that also is quite acceptable without disturbing the Major Group which shuld concentrate only on devotion to Sri Guruvayurappan and other bhakthy related matters.I must thank Sunil for the decision he has taken firmly.May Sri Krishna Bless him in his activities and let the Group grow like anything with the Blessings of Sri Guruvayurappan. Hare Krishna, agraman.Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote: Dear Devotee members,The vote is out and majority of replies suggests us to stick withGuruvayoor and Bhakti related matters.So, let us stick with Guruvayoor and Bhakti related topics MOST of thetime. As Sarojaji aptly pointed out, there are many groups out therefor other topics but not many for Bhakti. So, please cherish our smallgroup.Topics and news articles with SIGNIFICANT educational value are stillwelcome. Like the important events in member's lives, prayerrequests, Dengue fever remedy, mails like why 'Our Mother is truly OurFirst God' or

'Pooja finding her parents' etc. Because we are God'sdevotees and we can't avoid Dharma and Seva.At the same time, please avoid articles that anyone can read elsewhere like jokes etc. Let us avoid hatred & ego clashes among members, religious propaganda and topics that has no merit to our group of Guruvayoor Bhaktas.I request all of you to think twice before sending any articles to thegroup. Please do not make moderators life difficult by sending mailsthat has no place in our group. We are not POLICE folks but humbleGuruvayoor devotees like you. So, please be considerate about ourtime and bhakti. I pass the responsibility of deciding what is rightfor our group to you and use that responsibility before you send anything. It is easy, if you think our group as your own family.Another subgroup for motivational and non-bhakti educational matters is being created and interested members can join and share articlesthere. I

will send a separate mail for the same.Thanks to Ganapathy Ramanji for starting this discussion.Following is the description of the group that we at the group web site.----------Guruvayur group is a place for Guruvayoorappan/Krishna devotees todiscuss devotional matters. We share our experiences * discuss bhakti* ask questions * clear our doubts * and make friends with otherdevotees from around the world.----------Let us all hope to GROW SPIRITUALLY RICH with the help of our groupand get closer to God Almighty.I pray Guruvayoorappan to bless our group and help us move ahead inthe right path.May God bless you all.Om Namo Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Syamala Nair <syamalaraghunathwrote:>> Jai Sreekrishna> > Dear all> > Personally speaking,

I have nothing against publishing articles related to subjects other than Bhakti once in a while. But thensuch articles should be educative and should not lead to any kind ofhot arguments among the members. However, we must not forgetthat the main aim of this forum is to discuss the glories of ourKannan and we must stick to the same. > > Shri Sreedharji quite often send very educative articles tomention one or two, "your attitude can do wonders", "save MotherEarth" etc. I welcome such articles. The poem he furnished also highlight an advise i.e,. BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE" > > As for me, if some articles are not to my taste, I just ignorethem. After all everyone has the freedom to accept or reject> > I also agree with our respected Sarojaji that there are manygroups that cater to the interest of youngsters and by publishingnon bhkati topics no one can attract them to this group and that

noyoungsters will take interest in this Group unless and until he/shehas a mind inclined to Lord and HIS Bhakti. This attitude one has todevelop with Sravanam, Keertanam and Satsang and for developing thisthe atmosphere at house plays a very important role. A child growingup in an atmosphere, where the parents are spiritually minded, shalldevelop such attitudes and shall take interest in gorups like this.> > So let us concentrate mainly on topics meant for this group> > Pardon me if I am wrong> > Humbly> Syamala> > > > Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote:> Dear Devotees,> > Thank you to all of you responded and expressed their opinion.> > But, I would like to hear from more members. Please do not feel that> your reply has to be 'politically correct' along with other member's> view point. > > We are

getting bigger as a group and we have people with varied> interests, backgrounds and opinion. Five people wrote to me personaly> about the reasoning behind some of the recent mails being published.> Some really liked those motivational mails - like the ones our> Sridharji has contributed. Some questioned and objected about not> getting carried away from anything other than pure bhakti messages. > > And there is no confusion at my side regarding Ramanji's mail or the> subjects we needs to be included in the group. BUT, it is an open> forum of devotees and YOUR opinions are more important than mine. > > So, we need to hear from all of you. I welcome your frank opinion and> I would like all your replies to the group rather than to me. Please.> > Let us hear from all members.> > Om Namo Narayanaya:> > Sunil.> > guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@> wrote:> >> > Hare Krishna,> > > > When considering the Majority Decision we can avoid Non-Bhakthi> topics. More to focuss on spritual topics. As it is clear now.> > > > With Love,> > Sree> > > > > > > > Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18@>> > guruvayur > > Sunday, 26 November, 2006 9:45:28 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] KHUSH RAHO-That's right, like> the Lion King son> > > > There are so many groups that cater for the tastes of yoingsters and> just by publishing non -bhakthi topics you cannot attract them to the> group.If this sort of literature

becomes very frequent it will only> turn the existing members away from the group. The other topics are> thirteen to the dozen and available everywhere and it is difficult to> find spiritual topics which are made easily available to all . It is> like classical music. If you want a larger crowd you have to entice> them by improving the quality and not by diluting it. You have to pull> them to your level and should not degrade yourself to their level. If> one is not able to find what he wants in ine group he can always> switch to other group but the group cannot be tailored to meet his> needs.Moreover bhakthi cannot be induced by the methods like dangling> carrots in front of a horse.It should come by the grace of God. You> can to create faith among youngsters not by writng what they like but> writing what> > theyneed.Honestly I don't think that any youngster will join the>

group unless he has faith and bhakthi. To him you have to give what he> looks for and not what he has already familiar with.About people who> talk about bhakthi but not act accordingly is a concern between them> and God. All the spritual books and gurus have said that if you want> spiritual progress satsanga is very important and also that the other> topics and activities which take you away from your goal must be> reduced if not avoided.The attitude should be to aim high and not look> down. A kite flies high but always looking down to see whether there> is any flesh for it to eat. The legendary chathaka bird looks up and> drinks only rain water and woul dnot accept any other. It is for the> mambers to decide whether they want to be chathakas or ordinary kites.> > Saroja Ramanujam> > > > > > Hare rishna,> > > > The varied subjects all concerned

day today happening on in our life> and it is said on different ways. In this life, we are playing on> different rolls, which we need to be act well. If we think for> sometime difficult subjects, we can take easily with simple examples.> Which are having lot of meaning? Ultimately, our goals are leads> surrendering to God.> > The Bagavatham and other Epics teaches the core meaning of life and> the system and it is very important to learn and understand on in our> life. Our Group is consisting of Diff age Group may be smaller age> group may not be digesting with out the help of Proper Guru (to> understand the actual meaning of the same). > > If our actions, words, and deeds are good that it shows a real> Bhakthi. I have seen personally peoples will talk about Bhakthi and> God e.t.c but what their actions is very wrong.> > Of course, our main thing is Bakthi and

surrendering to> Guruvayoorappan. Krishna also plays varied rolls and these rolls he> conveyed good message. What we need to learn from that?> > So I suggest we need to bring smaller age also in to our group.> Slowly they will learn the real Bakthi through the forum discussion.> Therefore, the varied subject, which is very meaningful in life, help> them also and slowly they are too learning & growing with higher> degree of the Bhakthi.> > Pl Pardon me it is just my thought conveyed.> > > > > > With Love,> > Sree > > > > > > > > > > K.V Gopalakrishna <gopalakrishna. kv (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > guruvayur@grou ps.com> > Saturday, 25 November, 2006 11:40:52 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayo or] KHUSH RAHO-That¢s right, like> the Lion King

son> > > > > > Sunil,> > Radh Krishna!> > I think there is some confusion about understanding Sri. Ganapathy> Raman's mail. I think what he has written is that diversions from> "Bhakti" are required for a change, like one takes a lick on the> pungent pickle while drinking sweet Pal Payasam. > > > > But by allowing diversions, we should ensure that we dont stray too> far away forgetting our Guruvayoorappan and concentrating on mundane> issues, which are in plenty, and which are burning issues of the day.> My personal opinion is that we should not diverge into other> topics, but stay focusing our minds on the Lord.> > > > Love> > KVG> > > > > > > > Sunil Menon wrote: > > Dear Ramanji and other members wrote to me recently,> > > > Yes, we do have to think twice

before we publish some messages .> > However, considering we have people with various backgrounds from> > different places, anything that helps to improve our day is welcome.> > Although, it has to be liked by majority of our members. If members> > like you express that we are diverting too much from Bhakti, then we> > can suggest devotees to reduce non Bhakti emails.> > > > Now that being said, I am not sure many people in this group> > understand Hindi though.> > > > I would like all of you to speak up your opinion about topics you like> > and the ones you don't. That way it is easy for all of us know what> > you like and what you don't. Please do not send personal mails to me,> > because that way only I will know but not others. Please send it to> > the whole group, if possible.> > > > Personally, I condemn two

kinds of mails, first - religious or caste> > propaganda and second - fight among member devotees and factions.> > Please remember that we are one big family and all of you are welcome> > to comment upon topics and emails.> > > > After all it is a forum of devotee members and members decide what you> > like to see here. > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya;> > > > Sunil.> > > > guruvayur@grou ps.com, GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62@ ..>> wrote:> > >> > > Nice presentations. I must thank Sunil that he is so magnanimousthat> > the Members are allowed other things instead of confining to> > Gita,Bhagavatam and other things.So in future we can expect more and> > more of subjects other than > > > already discussed Gita and other scriptures.Well done Balagopal> > and

Sreedhar.> > > Change is a part of life and more such new things shuld find a> > place instead of > > > writing only abt Bhakthy.> > > > > > agraman.> > > > > > balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal@ > wrote:> > > HARI AUM> > > > > > Here is Bobby McFerrin's popular 'don't worry be> > > happy..'> > > Read and Enjoyyyyyyyyyy. Be Happy Don't Worry...> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Balagopal> > > > > > NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA> > > > > > At the 1988 Grammy Awards, "Don't Worry Be Happy" won> > > 'Best Song of the Year', > > > From the Movie "Cocktails" > > > Performed by Bobby McFerrin > > > > > > Don't Worry, Be Happy Lyrics> > > > >

> Here is a little song I wrote > > > You might want to sing it note for note > > > Don't worry be happy > > > In every life we have some trouble > > > When you worry you make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > > > > Ain't got no place to lay your head > > > Somebody came and took your bed > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > The land lord say your rent is late > > > He may have to litigate > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Look at me I am happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Here I give you my phone number > > > When you worry call me > > > I make you happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style > > > Ain't got not girl to make you smile > > > But don't

worry be happy > > > Cause when you worry > > > Your face will frown > > > And that will bring everybody down > > > So don't worry, be happy (now)..... > > > > > > There is this little song I wrote > > > I hope you learn it note for note > > > Like good little children > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Listen to what I say > > > In your life expect some trouble > > > But when you worry > > > You make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > Don't worry don't do it, be happy > > > Put a smile on your face > > > Don't bring everybody down like this > > > Don't worry, it will soon past > > > Whatever it is > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---> >

> > > > > > > --- "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > > Hare Krishna,> > > > > > > > KHUSH RAHO> > > > > > > > Zindagi hai choti , har pal mein khush raho? > > > > > > > > Office me khush reho, ghar mein khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj paneer nahi hai, dal mein hi khush raho, > > > > > > > > Aaj gym jane ka samay nahi, do kadam chal ke he> > > > khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj Dosto ka sath nahi, TV dekh ke hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghar ja nahi sakte to phone kar ke hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > Aaj koi naraaz hai, uske iss andaz mein bhi khush> > > > raho.. > >

> > > > > > Jisse dekh nahi sakte uski awaz mein hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jisse paa nahi sakte uske yaad mein he khush raho > > > > > > > > MBA karne ka socha tha, S/W mein he khush raho? > > > > > > > > Laptop na mila to kya, Desktop mein hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > bita hua kal ja chuka hai, usse meeti yaadein> > > > hai,unme he khush raho.. > > > > > > > > aane wale pal ka pata nahi..sapno mein he khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Haste haste ye pal bitaenge, aaj mein he> > > > > > > > > > > > With Love,> > > > Sree> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online

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iI have just become a member of ur group thanks to saroja mami your interaction is excellent.i fully agree with mami and sunilji. let us not deviate from bhakthi . Narayanaya namo namaha Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18 wrote: Sunil has clinched the matter and taken a wise and practical deision. As he saysmoderators are not poilce folks and we should not create headache for them when we get such mails which have nothing to do with our spitritual progress.It is the responsibility of the members to keep

the atmostphere of the group unpolluted and Sunil and other moderators cannot be always burdened with the task of pruning the posts .The moderators normally intervene only when there is unpleasantness in the mails between members arguing or when there is something obnoxious. In other groups also such irrelevant mail comes but that is minimal and the members delete them when they arrive at the mail box.I suggest that we do the same in future if something else like this happens which is unlikely as Sunil has defined the code of ethics in posting to the group.But it could come from some nonmembers as a kind of spam or some one who joins just for that purpose. It has happened in my groups and I coolly remove them from the group when I see that they have nothing in common with the other members. Saroja RamanujamSunil Menon <menon_sunil > wrote: Dear Devotee members,The vote is out and majority of replies suggests us to stick withGuruvayoor and Bhakti related matters.So, let us stick with Guruvayoor and Bhakti related topics MOST of thetime. As Sarojaji aptly pointed out, there are many groups out therefor other topics but not many for Bhakti. So, please cherish our smallgroup.Topics and news articles with SIGNIFICANT educational value are stillwelcome. Like the important events in member's lives, prayerrequests, Dengue fever remedy, mails like why 'Our Mother is truly OurFirst God' or 'Pooja finding her parents' etc. Because we are God'sdevotees and we can't avoid Dharma and Seva.At the same time, please avoid articles that anyone can read elsewhere like jokes etc. Let us avoid hatred & ego clashes among members, religious propaganda and topics that has no merit to our group of Guruvayoor

Bhaktas.I request all of you to think twice before sending any articles to thegroup. Please do not make moderators life difficult by sending mailsthat has no place in our group. We are not POLICE folks but humbleGuruvayoor devotees like you. So, please be considerate about ourtime and bhakti. I pass the responsibility of deciding what is rightfor our group to you and use that responsibility before you send anything. It is easy, if you think our group as your own family.Another subgroup for motivational and non-bhakti educational matters is being created and interested members can join and share articlesthere. I will send a separate mail for the same.Thanks to Ganapathy Ramanji for starting this discussion.Following is the description of the group that we at the group web site.----------Guruvayur group is a place for Guruvayoorappan/Krishna devotees todiscuss devotional matters. We share our

experiences * discuss bhakti* ask questions * clear our doubts * and make friends with otherdevotees from around the world.----------Let us all hope to GROW SPIRITUALLY RICH with the help of our groupand get closer to God Almighty.I pray Guruvayoorappan to bless our group and help us move ahead inthe right path.May God bless you all.Om Namo Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Syamala Nair <syamalaraghunathwrote:>> Jai Sreekrishna> > Dear all> > Personally speaking, I have nothing against publishing articles related to subjects other than Bhakti once in a while. But thensuch articles should be educative and should not lead to any kind ofhot arguments among the members. However, we must not forgetthat the main aim of this forum is to discuss the glories of

ourKannan and we must stick to the same. > > Shri Sreedharji quite often send very educative articles tomention one or two, "your attitude can do wonders", "save MotherEarth" etc. I welcome such articles. The poem he furnished also highlight an advise i.e,. BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE" > > As for me, if some articles are not to my taste, I just ignorethem. After all everyone has the freedom to accept or reject> > I also agree with our respected Sarojaji that there are manygroups that cater to the interest of youngsters and by publishingnon bhkati topics no one can attract them to this group and that noyoungsters will take interest in this Group unless and until he/shehas a mind inclined to Lord and HIS Bhakti. This attitude one has todevelop with Sravanam, Keertanam and Satsang and for developing thisthe atmosphere at house plays a very important role. A child growingup in an

atmosphere, where the parents are spiritually minded, shalldevelop such attitudes and shall take interest in gorups like this.> > So let us concentrate mainly on topics meant for this group> > Pardon me if I am wrong> > Humbly> Syamala> > > > Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote:> Dear Devotees,> > Thank you to all of you responded and expressed their opinion.> > But, I would like to hear from more members. Please do not feel that> your reply has to be 'politically correct' along with other member's> view point. > > We are getting bigger as a group and we have people with varied> interests, backgrounds and opinion. Five people wrote to me personaly> about the reasoning behind some of the recent mails being published.> Some really liked those motivational mails - like the ones our> Sridharji has

contributed. Some questioned and objected about not> getting carried away from anything other than pure bhakti messages. > > And there is no confusion at my side regarding Ramanji's mail or the> subjects we needs to be included in the group. BUT, it is an open> forum of devotees and YOUR opinions are more important than mine. > > So, we need to hear from all of you. I welcome your frank opinion and> I would like all your replies to the group rather than to me. Please.> > Let us hear from all members.> > Om Namo Narayanaya:> > Sunil.> > guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@> wrote:> >> > Hare Krishna,> > > > When considering the Majority Decision we can avoid Non-Bhakthi> topics. More to focuss on spritual topics. As it is clear

now.> > > > With Love,> > Sree> > > > > > > > Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18@>> > guruvayur > > Sunday, 26 November, 2006 9:45:28 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] KHUSH RAHO-That's right, like> the Lion King son> > > > There are so many groups that cater for the tastes of yoingsters and> just by publishing non -bhakthi topics you cannot attract them to the> group.If this sort of literature becomes very frequent it will only> turn the existing members away from the group. The other topics are> thirteen to the dozen and available everywhere and it is difficult to> find spiritual topics which are made easily available to all . It is> like classical music. If you want a larger

crowd you have to entice> them by improving the quality and not by diluting it. You have to pull> them to your level and should not degrade yourself to their level. If> one is not able to find what he wants in ine group he can always> switch to other group but the group cannot be tailored to meet his> needs.Moreover bhakthi cannot be induced by the methods like dangling> carrots in front of a horse.It should come by the grace of God. You> can to create faith among youngsters not by writng what they like but> writing what> > theyneed.Honestly I don't think that any youngster will join the> group unless he has faith and bhakthi. To him you have to give what he> looks for and not what he has already familiar with.About people who> talk about bhakthi but not act accordingly is a concern between them> and God. All the spritual books and gurus have said that if you want>

spiritual progress satsanga is very important and also that the other> topics and activities which take you away from your goal must be> reduced if not avoided.The attitude should be to aim high and not look> down. A kite flies high but always looking down to see whether there> is any flesh for it to eat. The legendary chathaka bird looks up and> drinks only rain water and woul dnot accept any other. It is for the> mambers to decide whether they want to be chathakas or ordinary kites.> > Saroja Ramanujam> > > > > > Hare rishna,> > > > The varied subjects all concerned day today happening on in our life> and it is said on different ways. In this life, we are playing on> different rolls, which we need to be act well. If we think for> sometime difficult subjects, we can take easily with simple examples.> Which are having lot of meaning? Ultimately,

our goals are leads> surrendering to God.> > The Bagavatham and other Epics teaches the core meaning of life and> the system and it is very important to learn and understand on in our> life. Our Group is consisting of Diff age Group may be smaller age> group may not be digesting with out the help of Proper Guru (to> understand the actual meaning of the same). > > If our actions, words, and deeds are good that it shows a real> Bhakthi. I have seen personally peoples will talk about Bhakthi and> God e.t.c but what their actions is very wrong.> > Of course, our main thing is Bakthi and surrendering to> Guruvayoorappan. Krishna also plays varied rolls and these rolls he> conveyed good message. What we need to learn from that?> > So I suggest we need to bring smaller age also in to our group.> Slowly they will learn the real Bakthi through the forum discussion.>

Therefore, the varied subject, which is very meaningful in life, help> them also and slowly they are too learning & growing with higher> degree of the Bhakthi.> > Pl Pardon me it is just my thought conveyed.> > > > > > With Love,> > Sree > > > > > > > > > > K.V Gopalakrishna <gopalakrishna. kv (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > guruvayur@grou ps.com> > Saturday, 25 November, 2006 11:40:52 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayo or] KHUSH RAHO-That¢s right, like> the Lion King son> > > > > > Sunil,> > Radh Krishna!> > I think there is some confusion about understanding Sri. Ganapathy> Raman's mail. I think what he has written is that diversions from> "Bhakti" are required for a change, like one takes a lick on the>

pungent pickle while drinking sweet Pal Payasam. > > > > But by allowing diversions, we should ensure that we dont stray too> far away forgetting our Guruvayoorappan and concentrating on mundane> issues, which are in plenty, and which are burning issues of the day.> My personal opinion is that we should not diverge into other> topics, but stay focusing our minds on the Lord.> > > > Love> > KVG> > > > > > > > Sunil Menon wrote: > > Dear Ramanji and other members wrote to me recently,> > > > Yes, we do have to think twice before we publish some messages .> > However, considering we have people with various backgrounds from> > different places, anything that helps to improve our day is welcome.> > Although, it has to be liked by majority of our members. If members> > like you express that we

are diverting too much from Bhakti, then we> > can suggest devotees to reduce non Bhakti emails.> > > > Now that being said, I am not sure many people in this group> > understand Hindi though.> > > > I would like all of you to speak up your opinion about topics you like> > and the ones you don't. That way it is easy for all of us know what> > you like and what you don't. Please do not send personal mails to me,> > because that way only I will know but not others. Please send it to> > the whole group, if possible.> > > > Personally, I condemn two kinds of mails, first - religious or caste> > propaganda and second - fight among member devotees and factions.> > Please remember that we are one big family and all of you are welcome> > to comment upon topics and emails.> > > > After all it is a forum of devotee

members and members decide what you> > like to see here. > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya;> > > > Sunil.> > > > guruvayur@grou ps.com, GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62@ ..>> wrote:> > >> > > Nice presentations. I must thank Sunil that he is so magnanimousthat> > the Members are allowed other things instead of confining to> > Gita,Bhagavatam and other things.So in future we can expect more and> > more of subjects other than > > > already discussed Gita and other scriptures.Well done Balagopal> > and Sreedhar.> > > Change is a part of life and more such new things shuld find a> > place instead of > > > writing only abt Bhakthy.> > > > > > agraman.> > > > > > balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal@ > wrote:> > >

HARI AUM> > > > > > Here is Bobby McFerrin's popular 'don't worry be> > > happy..'> > > Read and Enjoyyyyyyyyyy. Be Happy Don't Worry...> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Balagopal> > > > > > NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA> > > > > > At the 1988 Grammy Awards, "Don't Worry Be Happy" won> > > 'Best Song of the Year', > > > From the Movie "Cocktails" > > > Performed by Bobby McFerrin > > > > > > Don't Worry, Be Happy Lyrics> > > > > > Here is a little song I wrote > > > You might want to sing it note for note > > > Don't worry be happy > > > In every life we have some trouble > > > When you worry you make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > >

> > Ain't got no place to lay your head > > > Somebody came and took your bed > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > The land lord say your rent is late > > > He may have to litigate > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Look at me I am happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Here I give you my phone number > > > When you worry call me > > > I make you happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style > > > Ain't got not girl to make you smile > > > But don't worry be happy > > > Cause when you worry > > > Your face will frown > > > And that will bring everybody down > > > So don't worry, be happy (now)..... > > > > > > There is this little song I wrote > > > I hope you learn it

note for note > > > Like good little children > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Listen to what I say > > > In your life expect some trouble > > > But when you worry > > > You make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > Don't worry don't do it, be happy > > > Put a smile on your face > > > Don't bring everybody down like this > > > Don't worry, it will soon past > > > Whatever it is > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---> > > > > > > > > --- "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > > Hare Krishna,> > > > > > > > KHUSH RAHO> > > > > > > > Zindagi hai choti , har pal mein khush raho? >

> > > > > > > Office me khush reho, ghar mein khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj paneer nahi hai, dal mein hi khush raho, > > > > > > > > Aaj gym jane ka samay nahi, do kadam chal ke he> > > > khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj Dosto ka sath nahi, TV dekh ke hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghar ja nahi sakte to phone kar ke hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > Aaj koi naraaz hai, uske iss andaz mein bhi khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Jisse dekh nahi sakte uski awaz mein hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jisse paa nahi sakte uske yaad mein he khush raho > > > > > > > > MBA karne ka socha tha, S/W mein he khush raho? >

> > > > > > > Laptop na mila to kya, Desktop mein hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > bita hua kal ja chuka hai, usse meeti yaadein> > > > hai,unme he khush raho.. > > > > > > > > aane wale pal ka pata nahi..sapno mein he khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Haste haste ye pal bitaenge, aaj mein he> > > > > > > > > > > > With Love,> > > > Sree> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> > > > http://uk.messenger . > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new> > > http://in.answers. /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version> > 8. Get it NOW> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new> Mail. > > > > > > > > > > May god bless you,> > > > Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit.> > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.> > > > >

> Send instant messages to your online friends> http://uk.messenger.> >> > > > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.> May god bless you, Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.

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November 30, 2006

Rohini Mohan is alawyer and my student. She is a staunch vaishnavite and sincere student who applies what she learns in her life.I am glad that she has come forward to have active interaction in the group saroja ramanujamRohini Mohan <moh_rohini wrote: iI have just become a member of ur group thanks to saroja mami your interaction is excellent.i fully agree with mami and sunilji. let us not deviate from bhakthi . Narayanaya namo namaha Saroja Ramanujam

<sarojram18 > wrote: Sunil has clinched the matter and taken a wise and practical deision. As he saysmoderators are not poilce folks and we should not create headache for them when we get such mails which have nothing to do with our spitritual progress.It is the responsibility of the members to keep the atmostphere of the group unpolluted and Sunil and other moderators cannot be always burdened with the task of pruning the posts .The moderators normally intervene only when there is unpleasantness in the mails between members arguing or when there is something obnoxious. In other groups also such irrelevant mail comes but that is minimal and the members delete them when they arrive at the mail box.I suggest that we do the same in future if something else like this happens which is unlikely as Sunil has defined the code

of ethics in posting to the group.But it could come from some nonmembers as a kind of spam or some one who joins just for that purpose. It has happened in my groups and I coolly remove them from the group when I see that they have nothing in common with the other members. Saroja RamanujamSunil Menon <menon_sunil > wrote: Dear Devotee members,The vote is out and majority of replies suggests us to stick withGuruvayoor and Bhakti related matters.So, let us stick with Guruvayoor and Bhakti related topics MOST of thetime. As Sarojaji aptly pointed out, there are many groups out therefor other topics but not many for Bhakti. So, please cherish our smallgroup.Topics and news articles with SIGNIFICANT educational value are stillwelcome. Like the important events

in member's lives, prayerrequests, Dengue fever remedy, mails like why 'Our Mother is truly OurFirst God' or 'Pooja finding her parents' etc. Because we are God'sdevotees and we can't avoid Dharma and Seva.At the same time, please avoid articles that anyone can read elsewhere like jokes etc. Let us avoid hatred & ego clashes among members, religious propaganda and topics that has no merit to our group of Guruvayoor Bhaktas.I request all of you to think twice before sending any articles to thegroup. Please do not make moderators life difficult by sending mailsthat has no place in our group. We are not POLICE folks but humbleGuruvayoor devotees like you. So, please be considerate about ourtime and bhakti. I pass the responsibility of deciding what is rightfor our group to you and use that responsibility before you send anything. It is easy, if you think our group as your own family.Another subgroup for motivational

and non-bhakti educational matters is being created and interested members can join and share articlesthere. I will send a separate mail for the same.Thanks to Ganapathy Ramanji for starting this discussion.Following is the description of the group that we at the group web site.----------Guruvayur group is a place for Guruvayoorappan/Krishna devotees todiscuss devotional matters. We share our experiences * discuss bhakti* ask questions * clear our doubts * and make friends with otherdevotees from around the world.----------Let us all hope to GROW SPIRITUALLY RICH with the help of our groupand get closer to God Almighty.I pray Guruvayoorappan to bless our group and help us move ahead inthe right path.May God bless you all.Om Namo Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Syamala Nair

<syamalaraghunathwrote:>> Jai Sreekrishna> > Dear all> > Personally speaking, I have nothing against publishing articles related to subjects other than Bhakti once in a while. But thensuch articles should be educative and should not lead to any kind ofhot arguments among the members. However, we must not forgetthat the main aim of this forum is to discuss the glories of ourKannan and we must stick to the same. > > Shri Sreedharji quite often send very educative articles tomention one or two, "your attitude can do wonders", "save MotherEarth" etc. I welcome such articles. The poem he furnished also highlight an advise i.e,. BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE" > > As for me, if some articles are not to my taste, I just ignorethem. After all everyone has the freedom to accept or reject> > I also agree with our respected Sarojaji that there are

manygroups that cater to the interest of youngsters and by publishingnon bhkati topics no one can attract them to this group and that noyoungsters will take interest in this Group unless and until he/shehas a mind inclined to Lord and HIS Bhakti. This attitude one has todevelop with Sravanam, Keertanam and Satsang and for developing thisthe atmosphere at house plays a very important role. A child growingup in an atmosphere, where the parents are spiritually minded, shalldevelop such attitudes and shall take interest in gorups like this.> > So let us concentrate mainly on topics meant for this group> > Pardon me if I am wrong> > Humbly> Syamala> > > > Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote:> Dear Devotees,> > Thank you to all of you responded and expressed their opinion.> > But, I would like to hear from more members. Please

do not feel that> your reply has to be 'politically correct' along with other member's> view point. > > We are getting bigger as a group and we have people with varied> interests, backgrounds and opinion. Five people wrote to me personaly> about the reasoning behind some of the recent mails being published.> Some really liked those motivational mails - like the ones our> Sridharji has contributed. Some questioned and objected about not> getting carried away from anything other than pure bhakti messages. > > And there is no confusion at my side regarding Ramanji's mail or the> subjects we needs to be included in the group. BUT, it is an open> forum of devotees and YOUR opinions are more important than mine. > > So, we need to hear from all of you. I welcome your frank opinion and> I would like all your replies to the group rather than to me. Please.>

> Let us hear from all members.> > Om Namo Narayanaya:> > Sunil.> > guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@> wrote:> >> > Hare Krishna,> > > > When considering the Majority Decision we can avoid Non-Bhakthi> topics. More to focuss on spritual topics. As it is clear now.> > > > With Love,> > Sree> > > > > > > > Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18@>> > guruvayur > > Sunday, 26 November, 2006 9:45:28 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] KHUSH RAHO-That's right, like> the Lion King son> > > > There are so many groups that cater for the tastes of

yoingsters and> just by publishing non -bhakthi topics you cannot attract them to the> group.If this sort of literature becomes very frequent it will only> turn the existing members away from the group. The other topics are> thirteen to the dozen and available everywhere and it is difficult to> find spiritual topics which are made easily available to all . It is> like classical music. If you want a larger crowd you have to entice> them by improving the quality and not by diluting it. You have to pull> them to your level and should not degrade yourself to their level. If> one is not able to find what he wants in ine group he can always> switch to other group but the group cannot be tailored to meet his> needs.Moreover bhakthi cannot be induced by the methods like dangling> carrots in front of a horse.It should come by the grace of God. You> can to create faith among youngsters not by

writng what they like but> writing what> > theyneed.Honestly I don't think that any youngster will join the> group unless he has faith and bhakthi. To him you have to give what he> looks for and not what he has already familiar with.About people who> talk about bhakthi but not act accordingly is a concern between them> and God. All the spritual books and gurus have said that if you want> spiritual progress satsanga is very important and also that the other> topics and activities which take you away from your goal must be> reduced if not avoided.The attitude should be to aim high and not look> down. A kite flies high but always looking down to see whether there> is any flesh for it to eat. The legendary chathaka bird looks up and> drinks only rain water and woul dnot accept any other. It is for the> mambers to decide whether they want to be chathakas or ordinary kites.> >

Saroja Ramanujam> > > > > > Hare rishna,> > > > The varied subjects all concerned day today happening on in our life> and it is said on different ways. In this life, we are playing on> different rolls, which we need to be act well. If we think for> sometime difficult subjects, we can take easily with simple examples.> Which are having lot of meaning? Ultimately, our goals are leads> surrendering to God.> > The Bagavatham and other Epics teaches the core meaning of life and> the system and it is very important to learn and understand on in our> life. Our Group is consisting of Diff age Group may be smaller age> group may not be digesting with out the help of Proper Guru (to> understand the actual meaning of the same). > > If our actions, words, and deeds are good that it shows a real> Bhakthi. I have seen personally peoples will talk

about Bhakthi and> God e.t.c but what their actions is very wrong.> > Of course, our main thing is Bakthi and surrendering to> Guruvayoorappan. Krishna also plays varied rolls and these rolls he> conveyed good message. What we need to learn from that?> > So I suggest we need to bring smaller age also in to our group.> Slowly they will learn the real Bakthi through the forum discussion.> Therefore, the varied subject, which is very meaningful in life, help> them also and slowly they are too learning & growing with higher> degree of the Bhakthi.> > Pl Pardon me it is just my thought conveyed.> > > > > > With Love,> > Sree > > > > > > > > > > K.V Gopalakrishna <gopalakrishna. kv (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > guruvayur@grou ps.com> > Saturday, 25

November, 2006 11:40:52 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayo or] KHUSH RAHO-That¢s right, like> the Lion King son> > > > > > Sunil,> > Radh Krishna!> > I think there is some confusion about understanding Sri. Ganapathy> Raman's mail. I think what he has written is that diversions from> "Bhakti" are required for a change, like one takes a lick on the> pungent pickle while drinking sweet Pal Payasam. > > > > But by allowing diversions, we should ensure that we dont stray too> far away forgetting our Guruvayoorappan and concentrating on mundane> issues, which are in plenty, and which are burning issues of the day.> My personal opinion is that we should not diverge into other> topics, but stay focusing our minds on the Lord.> > > > Love> > KVG> > > > > > > > Sunil Menon

wrote: > > Dear Ramanji and other members wrote to me recently,> > > > Yes, we do have to think twice before we publish some messages .> > However, considering we have people with various backgrounds from> > different places, anything that helps to improve our day is welcome.> > Although, it has to be liked by majority of our members. If members> > like you express that we are diverting too much from Bhakti, then we> > can suggest devotees to reduce non Bhakti emails.> > > > Now that being said, I am not sure many people in this group> > understand Hindi though.> > > > I would like all of you to speak up your opinion about topics you like> > and the ones you don't. That way it is easy for all of us know what> > you like and what you don't. Please do not send personal mails to me,> > because that way only I will know

but not others. Please send it to> > the whole group, if possible.> > > > Personally, I condemn two kinds of mails, first - religious or caste> > propaganda and second - fight among member devotees and factions.> > Please remember that we are one big family and all of you are welcome> > to comment upon topics and emails.> > > > After all it is a forum of devotee members and members decide what you> > like to see here. > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya;> > > > Sunil.> > > > guruvayur@grou ps.com, GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62@ ..>> wrote:> > >> > > Nice presentations. I must thank Sunil that he is so magnanimousthat> > the Members are allowed other things instead of confining to> > Gita,Bhagavatam and other things.So in future we can expect more and> >

more of subjects other than > > > already discussed Gita and other scriptures.Well done Balagopal> > and Sreedhar.> > > Change is a part of life and more such new things shuld find a> > place instead of > > > writing only abt Bhakthy.> > > > > > agraman.> > > > > > balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal@ > wrote:> > > HARI AUM> > > > > > Here is Bobby McFerrin's popular 'don't worry be> > > happy..'> > > Read and Enjoyyyyyyyyyy. Be Happy Don't Worry...> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Balagopal> > > > > > NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA> > > > > > At the 1988 Grammy Awards, "Don't Worry Be Happy" won> > > 'Best Song of the Year', > > > From the Movie "Cocktails" > > >

Performed by Bobby McFerrin > > > > > > Don't Worry, Be Happy Lyrics> > > > > > Here is a little song I wrote > > > You might want to sing it note for note > > > Don't worry be happy > > > In every life we have some trouble > > > When you worry you make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > > > > Ain't got no place to lay your head > > > Somebody came and took your bed > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > The land lord say your rent is late > > > He may have to litigate > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Look at me I am happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Here I give you my phone number > > > When you worry call me > > > I make you happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > >

> Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style > > > Ain't got not girl to make you smile > > > But don't worry be happy > > > Cause when you worry > > > Your face will frown > > > And that will bring everybody down > > > So don't worry, be happy (now)..... > > > > > > There is this little song I wrote > > > I hope you learn it note for note > > > Like good little children > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Listen to what I say > > > In your life expect some trouble > > > But when you worry > > > You make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > Don't worry don't do it, be happy > > > Put a smile on your face > > > Don't bring everybody down like this > > > Don't worry, it will soon past > > >

Whatever it is > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---> > > > > > > > > --- "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > > Hare Krishna,> > > > > > > > KHUSH RAHO> > > > > > > > Zindagi hai choti , har pal mein khush raho? > > > > > > > > Office me khush reho, ghar mein khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj paneer nahi hai, dal mein hi khush raho, > > > > > > > > Aaj gym jane ka samay nahi, do kadam chal ke he> > > > khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj Dosto ka sath nahi, TV dekh ke hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghar ja nahi sakte to phone kar ke hi khush raho? >

> > > > > > > Aaj koi naraaz hai, uske iss andaz mein bhi khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Jisse dekh nahi sakte uski awaz mein hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jisse paa nahi sakte uske yaad mein he khush raho > > > > > > > > MBA karne ka socha tha, S/W mein he khush raho? > > > > > > > > Laptop na mila to kya, Desktop mein hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > bita hua kal ja chuka hai, usse meeti yaadein> > > > hai,unme he khush raho.. > > > > > > > > aane wale pal ka pata nahi..sapno mein he khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Haste haste ye pal bitaenge, aaj mein he> > > > > > > > > > >

> With Love,> > > > Sree> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> > > > http://uk.messenger . > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new> > > http://in.answers. /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Find out what India is talking about on - Answers India > > > Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version> > 8. Get it NOW> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new> Mail. > > > > > > > > > > May god bless you,> > > > Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit.> > > > > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail beta.> > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> http://uk.messenger.> >> > > > > > > > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business.> May god bless you, Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Small Business. Cheap Talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. May god bless you, Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit.

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Jai Sreekrishna Dear Shri Sunil A very prompt, timely and right decisoin. I shall definitely adhere to the instructions before sending any postings Regards Syamala Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote: Dear Devotee members,The vote is out and majority of replies suggests us to stick withGuruvayoor and Bhakti related matters.So, let us stick with

Guruvayoor and Bhakti related topics MOST of thetime. As Sarojaji aptly pointed out, there are many groups out therefor other topics but not many for Bhakti. So, please cherish our smallgroup.Topics and news articles with SIGNIFICANT educational value are stillwelcome. Like the important events in member's lives, prayerrequests, Dengue fever remedy, mails like why 'Our Mother is truly OurFirst God' or 'Pooja finding her parents' etc. Because we are God'sdevotees and we can't avoid Dharma and Seva.At the same time, please avoid articles that anyone can read elsewhere like jokes etc. Let us avoid hatred & ego clashes among members, religious propaganda and topics that has no merit to our group of Guruvayoor Bhaktas.I request all of you to think twice before sending any articles to thegroup. Please do not make moderators life difficult by sending mailsthat has no place in our group. We are not POLICE folks but

humbleGuruvayoor devotees like you. So, please be considerate about ourtime and bhakti. I pass the responsibility of deciding what is rightfor our group to you and use that responsibility before you send anything. It is easy, if you think our group as your own family.Another subgroup for motivational and non-bhakti educational matters is being created and interested members can join and share articlesthere. I will send a separate mail for the same.Thanks to Ganapathy Ramanji for starting this discussion.Following is the description of the group that we at the group web site.----------Guruvayur group is a place for Guruvayoorappan/Krishna devotees todiscuss devotional matters. We share our experiences * discuss bhakti* ask questions * clear our doubts * and make friends with otherdevotees from around the world.----------Let us all hope to GROW SPIRITUALLY RICH with the help of our groupand get

closer to God Almighty.I pray Guruvayoorappan to bless our group and help us move ahead inthe right path.May God bless you all.Om Namo Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Syamala Nair <syamalaraghunathwrote:>> Jai Sreekrishna> > Dear all> > Personally speaking, I have nothing against publishing articles related to subjects other than Bhakti once in a while. But thensuch articles should be educative and should not lead to any kind ofhot arguments among the members. However, we must not forgetthat the main aim of this forum is to discuss the glories of ourKannan and we must stick to the same. > > Shri Sreedharji quite often send very educative articles tomention one or two, "your attitude can do wonders", "save MotherEarth" etc. I welcome such articles. The poem

he furnished also highlight an advise i.e,. BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE HAVE" > > As for me, if some articles are not to my taste, I just ignorethem. After all everyone has the freedom to accept or reject> > I also agree with our respected Sarojaji that there are manygroups that cater to the interest of youngsters and by publishingnon bhkati topics no one can attract them to this group and that noyoungsters will take interest in this Group unless and until he/shehas a mind inclined to Lord and HIS Bhakti. This attitude one has todevelop with Sravanam, Keertanam and Satsang and for developing thisthe atmosphere at house plays a very important role. A child growingup in an atmosphere, where the parents are spiritually minded, shalldevelop such attitudes and shall take interest in gorups like this.> > So let us concentrate mainly on topics meant for this group> > Pardon me if I am

wrong> > Humbly> Syamala> > > > Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote:> Dear Devotees,> > Thank you to all of you responded and expressed their opinion.> > But, I would like to hear from more members. Please do not feel that> your reply has to be 'politically correct' along with other member's> view point. > > We are getting bigger as a group and we have people with varied> interests, backgrounds and opinion. Five people wrote to me personaly> about the reasoning behind some of the recent mails being published.> Some really liked those motivational mails - like the ones our> Sridharji has contributed. Some questioned and objected about not> getting carried away from anything other than pure bhakti messages. > > And there is no confusion at my side regarding Ramanji's mail or the> subjects we needs

to be included in the group. BUT, it is an open> forum of devotees and YOUR opinions are more important than mine. > > So, we need to hear from all of you. I welcome your frank opinion and> I would like all your replies to the group rather than to me. Please.> > Let us hear from all members.> > Om Namo Narayanaya:> > Sunil.> > guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@> wrote:> >> > Hare Krishna,> > > > When considering the Majority Decision we can avoid Non-Bhakthi> topics. More to focuss on spritual topics. As it is clear now.> > > > With Love,> > Sree> > > > > > > > Saroja Ramanujam <sarojram18@>> > guruvayur > > Sunday, 26 November, 2006 9:45:28 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] KHUSH RAHO-That's right, like> the Lion King son> > > > There are so many groups that cater for the tastes of yoingsters and> just by publishing non -bhakthi topics you cannot attract them to the> group.If this sort of literature becomes very frequent it will only> turn the existing members away from the group. The other topics are> thirteen to the dozen and available everywhere and it is difficult to> find spiritual topics which are made easily available to all . It is> like classical music. If you want a larger crowd you have to entice> them by improving the quality and not by diluting it. You have to pull> them to your level and should not degrade yourself to their level. If> one is not able to

find what he wants in ine group he can always> switch to other group but the group cannot be tailored to meet his> needs.Moreover bhakthi cannot be induced by the methods like dangling> carrots in front of a horse.It should come by the grace of God. You> can to create faith among youngsters not by writng what they like but> writing what> > theyneed.Honestly I don't think that any youngster will join the> group unless he has faith and bhakthi. To him you have to give what he> looks for and not what he has already familiar with.About people who> talk about bhakthi but not act accordingly is a concern between them> and God. All the spritual books and gurus have said that if you want> spiritual progress satsanga is very important and also that the other> topics and activities which take you away from your goal must be> reduced if not avoided.The attitude should be to aim high and not

look> down. A kite flies high but always looking down to see whether there> is any flesh for it to eat. The legendary chathaka bird looks up and> drinks only rain water and woul dnot accept any other. It is for the> mambers to decide whether they want to be chathakas or ordinary kites.> > Saroja Ramanujam> > > > > > Hare rishna,> > > > The varied subjects all concerned day today happening on in our life> and it is said on different ways. In this life, we are playing on> different rolls, which we need to be act well. If we think for> sometime difficult subjects, we can take easily with simple examples.> Which are having lot of meaning? Ultimately, our goals are leads> surrendering to God.> > The Bagavatham and other Epics teaches the core meaning of life and> the system and it is very important to learn and understand on in our>

life. Our Group is consisting of Diff age Group may be smaller age> group may not be digesting with out the help of Proper Guru (to> understand the actual meaning of the same). > > If our actions, words, and deeds are good that it shows a real> Bhakthi. I have seen personally peoples will talk about Bhakthi and> God e.t.c but what their actions is very wrong.> > Of course, our main thing is Bakthi and surrendering to> Guruvayoorappan. Krishna also plays varied rolls and these rolls he> conveyed good message. What we need to learn from that?> > So I suggest we need to bring smaller age also in to our group.> Slowly they will learn the real Bakthi through the forum discussion.> Therefore, the varied subject, which is very meaningful in life, help> them also and slowly they are too learning & growing with higher> degree of the Bhakthi.> > Pl Pardon me it is just

my thought conveyed.> > > > > > With Love,> > Sree > > > > > > > > > > K.V Gopalakrishna <gopalakrishna. kv (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> > guruvayur@grou ps.com> > Saturday, 25 November, 2006 11:40:52 AM> > Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayo or] KHUSH RAHO-That¢s right, like> the Lion King son> > > > > > Sunil,> > Radh Krishna!> > I think there is some confusion about understanding Sri. Ganapathy> Raman's mail. I think what he has written is that diversions from> "Bhakti" are required for a change, like one takes a lick on the> pungent pickle while drinking sweet Pal Payasam. > > > > But by allowing diversions, we should ensure that we dont stray too> far away forgetting our Guruvayoorappan and concentrating on

mundane> issues, which are in plenty, and which are burning issues of the day.> My personal opinion is that we should not diverge into other> topics, but stay focusing our minds on the Lord.> > > > Love> > KVG> > > > > > > > Sunil Menon wrote: > > Dear Ramanji and other members wrote to me recently,> > > > Yes, we do have to think twice before we publish some messages .> > However, considering we have people with various backgrounds from> > different places, anything that helps to improve our day is welcome.> > Although, it has to be liked by majority of our members. If members> > like you express that we are diverting too much from Bhakti, then we> > can suggest devotees to reduce non Bhakti emails.> > > > Now that being said, I am not sure many people in this group> >

understand Hindi though.> > > > I would like all of you to speak up your opinion about topics you like> > and the ones you don't. That way it is easy for all of us know what> > you like and what you don't. Please do not send personal mails to me,> > because that way only I will know but not others. Please send it to> > the whole group, if possible.> > > > Personally, I condemn two kinds of mails, first - religious or caste> > propaganda and second - fight among member devotees and factions.> > Please remember that we are one big family and all of you are welcome> > to comment upon topics and emails.> > > > After all it is a forum of devotee members and members decide what you> > like to see here. > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya;> > > > Sunil.> > > > guruvayur@grou

ps.com, GANAPATHY RAMAN <agraman62@ ..>> wrote:> > >> > > Nice presentations. I must thank Sunil that he is so magnanimousthat> > the Members are allowed other things instead of confining to> > Gita,Bhagavatam and other things.So in future we can expect more and> > more of subjects other than > > > already discussed Gita and other scriptures.Well done Balagopal> > and Sreedhar.> > > Change is a part of life and more such new things shuld find a> > place instead of > > > writing only abt Bhakthy.> > > > > > agraman.> > > > > > balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal@ > wrote:> > > HARI AUM> > > > > > Here is Bobby McFerrin's popular 'don't worry be> > > happy..'> > > Read and Enjoyyyyyyyyyy. Be Happy Don't Worry...> >

> > > > Regards> > > > > > Balagopal> > > > > > NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA> > > > > > At the 1988 Grammy Awards, "Don't Worry Be Happy" won> > > 'Best Song of the Year', > > > From the Movie "Cocktails" > > > Performed by Bobby McFerrin > > > > > > Don't Worry, Be Happy Lyrics> > > > > > Here is a little song I wrote > > > You might want to sing it note for note > > > Don't worry be happy > > > In every life we have some trouble > > > When you worry you make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > > > > Ain't got no place to lay your head > > > Somebody came and took your bed > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > The land lord say your rent is late >

> > He may have to litigate > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Look at me I am happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Here I give you my phone number > > > When you worry call me > > > I make you happy > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style > > > Ain't got not girl to make you smile > > > But don't worry be happy > > > Cause when you worry > > > Your face will frown > > > And that will bring everybody down > > > So don't worry, be happy (now)..... > > > > > > There is this little song I wrote > > > I hope you learn it note for note > > > Like good little children > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > Listen to what I say > > > In your life expect some trouble >

> > But when you worry > > > You make it double > > > Don't worry, be happy...... > > > Don't worry don't do it, be happy > > > Put a smile on your face > > > Don't bring everybody down like this > > > Don't worry, it will soon past > > > Whatever it is > > > Don't worry, be happy > > > > > > ------------ --------- ---> > > > > > > > > --- "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20@ ..> wrote:> > > > > > > Hare Krishna,> > > > > > > > KHUSH RAHO> > > > > > > > Zindagi hai choti , har pal mein khush raho? > > > > > > > > Office me khush reho, ghar mein khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj paneer nahi hai, dal mein hi khush raho, > > > >

> > > > Aaj gym jane ka samay nahi, do kadam chal ke he> > > > khush raho.. > > > > > > > > Aaj Dosto ka sath nahi, TV dekh ke hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ghar ja nahi sakte to phone kar ke hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > Aaj koi naraaz hai, uske iss andaz mein bhi khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Jisse dekh nahi sakte uski awaz mein hi khush raho? > > > > > > > > > > > > Jisse paa nahi sakte uske yaad mein he khush raho > > > > > > > > MBA karne ka socha tha, S/W mein he khush raho? > > > > > > > > Laptop na mila to kya, Desktop mein hi khush raho.. > > > > > > > > > > > > bita hua kal ja chuka hai, usse meeti

yaadein> > > > hai,unme he khush raho.. > > > > > > > > aane wale pal ka pata nahi..sapno mein he khush> > > > raho.. > > > > > > > > Haste haste ye pal bitaenge, aaj mein he> > > > > > > > > > > > With Love,> > > > Sree> > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> > > > http://uk.messenger . > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new> > > http://in.answers. /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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