Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 HARI AUM A good attempt towards understanding 'ACTION'. " Here is the tricky part. When all your infinite or so cells worked for a purpose and you are happy for the good job you have done. Your hair looks soo neat and you look handsome/cute. This was the work you want to be done. Is this the work the jeevathma wanted? To be precise, NO. " It would be nice if you could explain the 'you', 'jeevatman' and the 'paramatman'. Regards Balagopal NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA --- suraj rajeev <surajsr wrote: > When karmam does become punyam? > > Karmam, literally meaning work, in one word is the > work done by body. > > OR > Is it so? > > Lets have a broder look. > > What is work. Is it just the work done by the body. > If it is Is does > the movements of the body parts make a work > complete. If not what does > and so on and so on. There are soo many questions > that comes in to the > mind when I think about this small, but broad > subject. This is what > the supreme teacher tried to tell to his parthan. > > So lets see what karmam is all about. > > We all know from our general knowledge in highs > chool that when our > brain tells us to do something, we do that. Who > tells the brain to do > that? > > It's the duty of the jeevaathma in us to persuade > the brain to give > orders, and it is the duty of the Paramathma to > persuade the jeevathma > to do so (exactly like in Gita, only there the > jeevathma and the > paramathma were two physical entities and here both > are us or in us). > > Krsna said to Arjuna " whatever you do, arjuna, do > unto me and you will > be freed from all the bonds of work, and you will > not have to worry > about the result, what so ever " > > Why did he said that…why didn't he say just do the > work when you are > working and after the work just call me (in that way > you can be 100% > sincere to the work). > > Pausing the questionnaire for a while and am jumping > from here to look > karmam in a broader view. > > Our body is made up of infinite cells, and each cell > is made up of a > nucleus and different cell particles around it like > cytoplasm, > endoplasm, golgi apparatus, and many funny names > like that. Now wait a > minute wow, there are different members in a cell, > in my body that I > didn't knew about…now just pause for a minute and > think about how vast > our body and think about all that members that moves > and does work > inside us. They too are living, moving working > taking energy in and > giving out the results of the work, and all that > done inside our body > without even giving you anything noticeable. They > are the ones who run > your body. They are the advisory board of your body, > and brain is just > a hardware where they put the output to. > > When you take in food, each and every cell takes in > the sufficient > energy it needs so as to perform work or their > prescribed karmam. Each > cell acts like a furnace where you churn the food > and gives out > energy, and if you have enough visualization power, > just imagine, how > it'll be to look at your body from that pint of > view. It'll be like > looking at the WTC at night. It'll be all lit up and > your body will be > like a star lit sky. > > Now, you want to move your hand and comb your hair. > You burn energy to > do that and all the cells in your body work for > that, all the infinite > cells working synchronously for the combing of your > hair. > > Here is the tricky part. When all your infinite or > so cells worked > for a purpose and you are happy for the good job you > have done. Your > hair looks soo neat and you look handsome/cute. This > was the work you > want to be done. Is this the work the jeevathma > wanted? To be precise, > NO. > > Jeevathma is always in touch with the Paramathma and > it's the outer > ear and eyes that don't see that supreme power, coz > that's how we were > created by Brahman. Or in other words Paramathma > wants Jeevathma to > think about him all the time so that he can guide > us. Even though > jeevathma and Paramathma are located in the same > body, They are > located far apart, not like 10 or 15 miles, but > infinitely far apart. > > Now lets come back to the cell theory we were > talking about. > Remembering about KRSNA all the time: In this case > whenever you do a > karma and lit up all your inner lights, you are > doing it unto KRSNA > and it is even holier than a Lakshadweepam conducted > in a temple. > Because you are doing the same in the temple of the > Jeevathma and > Paramathma. Now just think about the austerity of > what you have just > read. You are not participating in a lakshadweepam, > or you are not > condcting a lakshadweepam. You are literally making > yourself the > lakshadweepam, only and only when you think about > The Paramathma, > Krsna, when you are doing the job. So don't waste > all the deepams you > lit when you do your work, as a matter of fact, for > a single celled > organism, what we are having is utter luxury, and > when we don't use it > to worship the supreme, the sweet guruvayurappan, > then it can inturn > become the biggest sin. So make use of of each and > every light lit up > inside ur body. Use it for the Neela komala shyamala > varnan. Use it > for the worship of the Supreme and every work shall > have the holiness > of a lakshadweepam. And that's a reward not easy for > other organisms. > > In this manner you can make your karmam, a punyam. > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2006 Report Share Posted December 16, 2006 The You, Jeevathma and Paramathma is the basic premise we all live unto, we here is not just the Two legged intelligent (supposedly- but regarding the vast nature of the universe, humans are just a glimpse of a tiny planet on the corner of one of the infinite galaxies) creaters, but the entire beings that including the non-moving (not the non living- every thing has the so called light as everything is KRSNA). Its like the so called triguna bhavam or the trimurtis or trinity or whatever you want to call it. Differentiating the You, Jeevathma and Paramathma:Its a little bit difficult task to tell, rather you have to experience it, I'll make it as easy as possible.You: Who are you? Your answer is that I am Balagopal. standing on this fact, you recognise you as a human named balagopal. Now this Human is just the shadow of that light inside called Jeevathma. Our life is a continous run of this shadow until oneday this shadow fades off. the best way to explain this is the cartoon theory. How does a cartoon work. Its the contious running of still pics. exactly like that your outer shape is just a projection of the innerlight, in a manner our brains can understand. So here the shape isn't important as you dont see ur self when u do ur karma, or do u look at the mirror all the tikmes?So as long as you dont see ur self, you as a shape doesn't exist, only the motivation or the energy to do the karma exists. This motivation or the giver of this energy is called Jeevathma.Jeevathma allows the prescribed Karma to be done and gives us energy to do Work. This Jeevathma lies next to the outer world or this illussion, and co-ordinates between the Paramathma and The output or the human hardware (namely the brain, heart, kidney, lungs and most impartant of all, carry out actions or give orders top the brains / tell brain to tell the body what to do). Jeevathma is the Pure Form of that Vishnu, or the all knowing Brahman well situated inside ur illusionary shape / shadow. Jeevathma is always in sync with the Paramathma, who is the Source of that light in Jeevathma. Like Visnu(Jeevathma, Visnu is called Narayana : Narasya ayanam atha narayana, other words, Narayana lives inside US) to Krsna(Paramathma). Paramathma is that Ultimate source of everything. This is the starting point of everything, the ending point and alone it has no starting and ending point. Its Endless, and humas cannot even think of this infinite endlessness, as Krsna is beyond infinity, regardless the fact that we cannot even comprehend the vastness of infinite. Krsna is the combination of all that infinite infinities. Taking into consideration that Our body is the result of infinite cell's working, only this cell theory is just one factor in the working of the body. so our bosy itself is composed of that infinite matrix. and krsna can see each and every inifinity, and he is the ONE that programmed each and every variable in it. (Also consider the infinite other species otherthan humans). Eventhough, The Shape, the Jeevathman and the Paramathman are all situated in the same abode, its situated well far apart, like Earth : Milky Way : The Entire Universe. ask more specific if u have any further doubts. balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote: HARI AUM A good attempt towards understanding 'ACTION'. "Here is the tricky part. When all your infinite or so cells worked for a purpose and you are happy for the good job you have done. Your hair looks soo neat and you look handsome/cute. This was the work you want to be done. Is this the work the jeevathma wanted? To be precise, NO." It would be nice if you could explain the 'you', 'jeevatman' and the 'paramatman'. Regards Balagopal NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA --- suraj rajeev <surajsr > wrote: > When karmam does become punyam? > > Karmam, literally meaning work, in one word is the > work done by body. > > OR > Is it so? > > Lets have a broder look. > > What is work. Is it just the work done by the body. > If it is Is does > the movements of the body parts make a work > complete. If not what does > and so on and so on. There are soo many questions > that comes in to the > mind when I think about this small, but broad > subject. This is what > the supreme teacher tried to tell to his parthan. > > So lets see what karmam is all about. > > We all know from our general knowledge in highs > chool that when our > brain tells us to do something, we do that. Who > tells the brain to do > that? > > It's the duty of the jeevaathma in us to persuade > the brain to give > orders, and it is the duty of the Paramathma to > persuade the jeevathma > to do so (exactly like in Gita, only there the > jeevathma and the > paramathma were two physical entities and here both > are us or in us). > > Krsna said to Arjuna "whatever you do, arjuna, do > unto me and you will > be freed from all the bonds of work, and you will > not have to worry > about the result, what so ever" > > Why did he said that…why didn't he say just do the > work when you are > working and after the work just call me (in that way > you can be 100% > sincere to the work). > > Pausing the questionnaire for a while and am jumping > from here to look > karmam in a broader view. > > Our body is made up of infinite cells, and each cell > is made up of a > nucleus and different cell particles around it like > cytoplasm, > endoplasm, golgi apparatus, and many funny names > like that. Now wait a > minute wow, there are different members in a cell, > in my body that I > didn't knew about…now just pause for a minute and > think about how vast > our body and think about all that members that moves > and does work > inside us. They too are living, moving working > taking energy in and > giving out the results of the work, and all that > done inside our body > without even giving you anything noticeable. They > are the ones who run > your body. They are the advisory board of your body, > and brain is just > a hardware where they put the output to. > > When you take in food, each and every cell takes in > the sufficient > energy it needs so as to perform work or their > prescribed karmam. Each > cell acts like a furnace where you churn the food > and gives out > energy, and if you have enough visualization power, > just imagine, how > it'll be to look at your body from that pint of > view. It'll be like > looking at the WTC at night. It'll be all lit up and > your body will be > like a star lit sky. > > Now, you want to move your hand and comb your hair. > You burn energy to > do that and all the cells in your body work for > that, all the infinite > cells working synchronously for the combing of your > hair. > > Here is the tricky part. When all your infinite or > so cells worked > for a purpose and you are happy for the good job you > have done. Your > hair looks soo neat and you look handsome/cute. This > was the work you > want to be done. Is this the work the jeevathma > wanted? To be precise, > NO. > > Jeevathma is always in touch with the Paramathma and > it's the outer > ear and eyes that don't see that supreme power, coz > that's how we were > created by Brahman. Or in other words Paramathma > wants Jeevathma to > think about him all the time so that he can guide > us. Even though > jeevathma and Paramathma are located in the same > body, They are > located far apart, not like 10 or 15 miles, but > infinitely far apart. > > Now lets come back to the cell theory we were > talking about. > Remembering about KRSNA all the time: In this case > whenever you do a > karma and lit up all your inner lights, you are > doing it unto KRSNA > and it is even holier than a Lakshadweepam conducted > in a temple. > Because you are doing the same in the temple of the > Jeevathma and > Paramathma. Now just think about the austerity of > what you have just > read. You are not participating in a lakshadweepam, > or you are not > condcting a lakshadweepam. You are literally making > yourself the > lakshadweepam, only and only when you think about > The Paramathma, > Krsna, when you are doing the job. So don't waste > all the deepams you > lit when you do your work, as a matter of fact, for > a single celled > organism, what we are having is utter luxury, and > when we don't use it > to worship the supreme, the sweet guruvayurappan, > then it can inturn > become the biggest sin. So make use of of each and > every light lit up > inside ur body. Use it for the Neela komala shyamala > varnan. Use it > for the worship of the Supreme and every work shall > have the holiness > of a lakshadweepam. And that's a reward not easy for > other organisms. > > In this manner you can make your karmam, a punyam. > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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