Guest guest Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 Hare Krishna, Very Good point for the Discussion. I feel both of them in a diff situations and circumstances is happened.But the ultimate result is same.May some other learned peoples can give more inputs in to it. With Love, Sreebalagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal wrote: HARI AUMThe most 'wanted' topic in the chat's history was'kuchelavruttam' 'vanchippattu'.What could be the reason? No other topic grabbed thismuch attention.I personally feel that it could be the strong urge inus to acquire material wealth without compromisingvalues and ethics. Kuchelan also epitomised thatstrength in the face of devastating poverty. He didnot move from the path of righteousness.Isn't 'gita'a sustitute to 'him'? When we visit 'gita'are we not visting 'Bhagavan' like Kuchelan?Can we have a bit of introspection?RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA Download prohibited? No problem! To chat from any browser without download, Click Here: http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Om Namo Narayanya For me visiting Guruvayoor.com and reading mails on the is very much like visiting ‘Bhagavan’ the simpler the discussion the better understanding. When there are more mails I feel like there are many devotees in the temple and when we have few mails then there are few devotees in the temple. Yes, I was among those who had requested for the 'kuchelavruttam' 'vanchippattu' but we found that it was difficult to read, may be due to our lesser knowledge of the language. All I can say is all those who can sing this poem are blessed souls. Another point is was Kuchelan more interested in the material wealth? To my understanding I think Bhagavan gave Kuchelan what he wanted that is ‘Bhagavan Darshanam’ and gave material wealth to his wife which made her happy. Depending upon our individual priorities I think Bhagavan is keeping us all happy. But when it comes to a family which is taken as a single unit then it is better to have one pray request made by all members in the family preferably at the same time. If the prayers are individual within a family then it may be difficult for Bhagavan to take individual stands; probably he waits till the whole family comes with a single request or until the family is split for any reason. I do kindly request senior members in the group to enlighten if this way of thinking is correct. Narayana Narayana Narayana Pravin guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of sreedhar c.p 26 May 2007 17:08 guruvayur Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] surprise or not surprise?? Hare Krishna, Very Good point for the Discussion. I feel both of them in a diff situations and circumstances is happened.But the ultimate result is same.May some other learned peoples can give more inputs in to it. With Love, Sree balagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: HARI AUM The most 'wanted' topic in the chat's history was 'kuchelavruttam' 'vanchippattu'. What could be the reason? No other! topic grabbed this much attention. I personally feel that it could be the strong urge in us to acquire material wealth without compromising values and ethics. Kuchelan also epitomised that strength in the face of devastating poverty. He did not move from the path of righteousness. Isn't 'gita'a sustitute to 'him'? When we visit 'gita' are we not visting 'Bhagavan' like Kuchelan? Can we have a bit of introspection? Regards Balagopal NARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA Download prohibited? No problem! To chat from any browser without download, Click Here: http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Dear Mr.Pravin, As a wife of a poor man Kuchela and as the mother of his children,KuchelaPatni might have prayed to god for material wealth which Bhagwan gave her ultimately.The bhakti of a devoted wife/devoted mother is not less than the bhakti of Kuchela himself. In their prayers most of the couples requests god for the spiritual and material well being of their previous generations,their sibblings & contemporaries and their next generations(need not be all at one time). So if mother of a family prays for her loved ones god will here that.If the father prays for his loved ones seperately the god will accept that also.There will be no descimination or no need for a prayer congregation for the acceptance of our prayer by god. Certain religions advocate mass prayer by the members of the community to keep their people togother by the name of god.But even in prayer by community congregations people will pray for the well being of their family and for themselves. But our ancient Acharyas have given us the most sacred prayer "Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavanthu" Let that be our prayer always. Regards Prasanna Kumar.N Pravin Balan <pravin.balan wrote: Om Namo Narayanya For me visiting Guruvayoor.com and reading mails on the is very much like visiting ‘Bhagavan’ the simpler the discussion the better understanding. When there are more mails I feel like there are many devotees in the temple and when we have few mails then there are few devotees in the temple. Yes, I was among those who had requested for the 'kuchelavruttam' 'vanchippattu' but we found that it was difficult to read, may be due to our lesser knowledge of the language. All I can say is all those who can sing this poem are blessed souls. Another point is was Kuchelan more interested in the material wealth? To my understanding I think Bhagavan gave Kuchelan what he wanted that is ‘Bhagavan Darshanam’ and gave material wealth to his wife which made her happy. Depending upon our individual priorities I think Bhagavan is keeping us all happy. But when it comes to a family which is taken as a single unit then it is better to have one pray request made by all members in the family preferably at the same time. If the prayers are individual within a family then it may be difficult for Bhagavan to take individual stands; probably he waits till the whole family comes with a single request or until the family is split for any reason. I do kindly request senior members in the group to enlighten if this way of thinking is correct. Narayana Narayana Narayana Pravin guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of sreedhar c.p26 May 2007 17:08guruvayur Subject: Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] surprise or not surprise?? Hare Krishna, Very Good point for the Discussion. I feel both of them in a diff situations and circumstances is happened.But the ultimate result is same.May some other learned peoples can give more inputs in to it. With Love, Sreebalagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: HARI AUMThe most 'wanted' topic in the chat's history was'kuchelavruttam' 'vanchippattu'.What could be the reason? No other! topic grabbed thismuch attention.I personally feel that it could be the strong urge inus to acquire material wealth without compromisingvalues and ethics. Kuchelan also epitomised thatstrength in the face of devastating poverty. He didnot move from the path of righteousness.Isn't 'gita'a sustitute to 'him'? When we visit 'gita'are we not visting 'Bhagavan' like Kuchelan?Can we have a bit of introspection?RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA Download prohibited? No problem! To chat from any browser without download, Click Here: http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 I will be going to Guruvayur in this KArkidagam i will try there if i get i will send defenitly so pls any one tell where i can get it will be easy for mePravin Balan <pravin.balan wrote: Om Namo Narayanya For me visiting Guruvayoor.com and reading mails on the is very much like visiting ‘Bhagavan’ the simpler the discussion the better understanding. When there are more mails I feel like there are many devotees in the temple and when we have few mails then there are few devotees in the temple. Yes, I was among those who had requested for the 'kuchelavruttam' 'vanchippattu' but we found that it was difficult to read, may be due to our lesser knowledge of the language. All I can say is all those who can sing this poem are blessed souls. Another point is was Kuchelan more interested in the material wealth? To my understanding I think Bhagavan gave Kuchelan what he wanted that is ‘Bhagavan Darshanam’ and gave material wealth to his wife which made her happy. Depending upon our individual priorities I think Bhagavan is keeping us all happy. But when it comes to a family which is taken as a single unit then it is better to have one pray request made by all members in the family preferably at the same time. If the prayers are individual within a family then it may be difficult for Bhagavan to take individual stands; probably he waits till the whole family comes with a single request or until the family is split for any reason. I do kindly request senior members in the group to enlighten if this way of thinking is correct. Narayana Narayana Narayana Pravin guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of sreedhar c.p26 May 2007 17:08guruvayur Subject: Re: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] surprise or not surprise?? Hare Krishna, Very Good point for the Discussion. I feel both of them in a diff situations and circumstances is happened.But the ultimate result is same.May some other learned peoples can give more inputs in to it. With Love, Sreebalagopal ramakrishnan <rbalpal (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: HARI AUMThe most 'wanted' topic in the chat's history was'kuchelavruttam' 'vanchippattu'.What could be the reason? No other! topic grabbed thismuch attention.I personally feel that it could be the strong urge inus to acquire material wealth without compromisingvalues and ethics. Kuchelan also epitomised thatstrength in the face of devastating poverty. He didnot move from the path of righteousness.Isn't 'gita'a sustitute to 'him'? When we visit 'gita'are we not visting 'Bhagavan' like Kuchelan?Can we have a bit of introspection?RegardsBalagopalNARAYANA NARAYANA NARAYANA Download prohibited? No problem! To chat from any browser without download, Click Here: http://in.messenger./webmessengerpromo.php Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today. This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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