[Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Entry of Non-Hinus to Guruvayoor Temple

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Hari OM!

 

Personally my view regarding this Guruvayur entry is a political creation by the

atheist Marxist party.. Each temple has its own rules and regulations and

Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar.

 

So I am not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple.

 

Yes, Guruvayur temples pavitratha and chitta will go off if we allow everyone inside.As per

the Tantrik vidhis thera are certain rules and regulations to follow to keep Devan chaitanyam intact!

 

Tomorrow according to the changing times people will say Biriyani and Alcohol as prasadam

there will be people to agree for that also the majority ignorant non-united Hindus! which is

a pray for all political exploitation.

 

Try asking Saudi Government to allow everyone inside Mecca, Madina...>>>????

 

Because all changing times... we need to change right..

 

With Love & OM!

 

Krishna Prasad

On 6/5/07, nbnair2000 <nbnair2000 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Ref. Entry of Non-Hindus to Guruvayur Temple - " sreedhar c.p " sreepal20 HARI AUM,Change is a sign of life. Any person or organisation that resistschanges in accordance with time will decay fast. Hence considering

necessary changes in rules and practices is a healthy sign, for anyorganisation. But it should be considered by the very same people whoare involved in these practices.We cannot equate the preset issue with the Temple Entry Proclamation

by Sri Chithirathirunal Maharaja of Travancore. Though Maharaja wasthe ruler, he was an ardent Bhakt as well. Also, he had not imposedany rules or restrictions on the practices of any other faiths in hisown Kingdom. Neither Shri Sudhakaran nor the communist party as such believes inthe worships of God or in any temple practices. And they hadabsolutely no business in interfering with religious practices. Thereare many cases where religions had imposed restrictions on

governments, and not the other way. The religious leaders concerned should consider these issues moreopenly, taking into account the general feelings of devotees. As a devotee and a Kathakali Aswadakan, I always feel hurt that such a

great soul like Hyderali, who was singing all through his life themost cherished Kathakali Padangal (mostly in praise of God and Hisavatars) was denied entry in to Hindu Temples! What prayaschithas wecan do for that now? Please consider: let us not repeat such blunders.

I don't have to elaborate: there are other living 'DARLINGS' ofdevotees who are still being denied Guruvayur entry! Why should we deny the desire to worship to any person (irrespectiveof the family into which he/she is born)? We have learned many

stories from our mythology where people of horrible pasts werepardoned once they have undergone the mental transformations to becomesober characters. With due respects to the feeling of all my fellow devotees,

NB Nair. nbnair2000 guruvayur , " sreedhar c.p " <sreepal20 wrote:>> For Inform, 1. Kerala Priests Ask Government to Not Interfere inTemple Traditions THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, INDIA, June 2, 2007: TheYogashema Sabha -- the primary leadership of priests, tantris (high

priests) and other Brahmin and Namboodiri bodies -- has asked theKerala government to not interfere with the customs and traditions ofKerala's temples. The priests' request was in response to the Temple

Affairs Minister G. Sudhakaran's statement that the government wouldconsider legislation to allow all believers, including non-Hindus, toworship in temples. The sabha met in Thrissur in the wake of the

controversy over the purification rite at the Guruvayur temple after avisit by Union minister Vayalar Ravi and his family. It decided tobegin the process for a second temple entry proclamation. (Through asimilar proclamation in 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore had abolished

the ban on Dalits entering the temple).> > Speaking to the Hindustan Times, Rahul Eswar, grandson of theSabarimala tantri who took the initiative for the conclav e, saidaround 80 per cent of the members favored reforms in tune with the

changing times. " The majority of them agreed to the reforms known asthe Second Temple Entry Proclamation. The meeting decided to initiatedialogue and debate for this, " he said. Rahul also said that

Sudhakaran, who did not believe in temple customs and belief, had norole to play in this. " The government will bring in a law afterconsulting all concerned. It feels all believers have to be alloweddarshan in temples, " he said. > > With Love,> Sree> > > > > Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows theanswer. Tryit now.>

 

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Hare Krishna, What if a terrorist enters and blast a bomb inside the temple? If they can have a blast on a Friday prayer session where their own kith and kin are praying, do you think it will be a wise decision to let people of that religion in particular to enter any temple premises? When you believe that killing non-believers will grant you a place in heaven, my personal opinion is donot let this happen. Pranams, PremKrishna Prasad <rkrishp99 wrote: Hari OM! Personally my view regarding this Guruvayur entry is a political creation by the atheist Marxist party.. Each temple has its own rules and regulations and Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other

than Adi Shankaracharyar. So I am not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple. Yes, Guruvayur temples pavitratha and chitta will go off if we allow everyone inside.As per the Tantrik vidhis thera are certain rules and regulations to follow to keep Devan chaitanyam intact! Tomorrow according to the changing times people will say Biriyani and Alcohol as prasadam there will be people to agree for that also the majority ignorant non-united Hindus! which is a pray for all political exploitation. Try asking Saudi Government to allow everyone inside Mecca, Madina...>>>???? Because all changing times... we need to change right.. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 6/5/07, nbnair2000 <nbnair2000 wrote: Ref. Entry of Non-Hindus to Guruvayur Temple - "sreedhar c.p"sreepal20 HARI AUM,Change is a sign of life. Any person or organisation that resistschanges in accordance with time will decay fast. Hence considering necessary changes in rules and practices is a healthy sign, for anyorganisation. But it should be considered by the very same people whoare involved in these practices.We cannot equate the preset issue with the Temple Entry Proclamation by Sri

Chithirathirunal Maharaja of Travancore. Though Maharaja wasthe ruler, he was an ardent Bhakt as well. Also, he had not imposedany rules or restrictions on the practices of any other faiths in hisown Kingdom. Neither Shri Sudhakaran nor the communist party as such believes inthe worships of God or in any temple practices. And they hadabsolutely no business in interfering with religious practices. Thereare many cases where religions had imposed restrictions on governments, and not the other way. The religious leaders concerned should consider these issues moreopenly, taking into account the general feelings of devotees. As a devotee and a Kathakali Aswadakan, I always feel hurt that such a great soul like Hyderali, who was singing all through his life themost cherished Kathakali Padangal (mostly in praise of God and Hisavatars) was denied entry in to Hindu Temples! What prayaschithas wecan do for that

now? Please consider: let us not repeat such blunders. I don't have to elaborate: there are other living 'DARLINGS' ofdevotees who are still being denied Guruvayur entry! Why should we deny the desire to worship to any person (irrespectiveof the family into which he/she is born)? We have learned many stories from our mythology where people of horrible pasts werepardoned once they have undergone the mental transformations to becomesober characters. With due respects to the feeling of all my fellow devotees, NB Nair. nbnair2000 guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20 wrote:>> For Inform, 1. Kerala

Priests Ask Government to Not Interfere inTemple Traditions THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, INDIA, June 2, 2007: TheYogashema Sabha -- the primary leadership of priests, tantris (high priests) and other Brahmin and Namboodiri bodies -- has asked theKerala government to not interfere with the customs and traditions ofKerala's temples. The priests' request was in response to the Temple Affairs Minister G. Sudhakaran's statement that the government wouldconsider legislation to allow all believers, including non-Hindus, toworship in temples. The sabha met in Thrissur in the wake of thecontroversy over the purification rite at the Guruvayur temple after avisit by Union minister Vayalar Ravi and his family. It decided tobegin the process for a second temple entry proclamation. (Through asimilar proclamation in 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore had abolished the ban on Dalits entering the temple).> > Speaking to the Hindustan

Times, Rahul Eswar, grandson of theSabarimala tantri who took the initiative for the conclav e, saidaround 80 per cent of the members favored reforms in tune with the changing times. "The majority of them agreed to the reforms known asthe Second Temple Entry Proclamation. The meeting decided to initiatedialogue and debate for this," he said. Rahul also said thatSudhakaran, who did not believe in temple customs and belief, had norole to play in this. "The government will bring in a law afterconsulting all concerned. It feels all believers have to be alloweddarshan in temples," he said. > > With Love,> Sree> > > > > Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows theanswer. Tryit now.> -- dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USDKrishna PrasadDare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into the 'unknown' The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do not know. If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the fullest. As Poojya Gurudev said it, "Open your eyes. Burst your shell. Spread your wings and fly!"Swami ChinmayanandaHate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin even with an excess of hatred."

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From Suresh.P. Om Narayanaya, I have gone through the write-ups on the subject matter. Though I totally agaree with what Shri N.B.Nair says, I totally disagree with what Shri Krishna Prasad has written. If Shri Krishna Prasad's saying is correct that the Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar, hence he is not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple, then what happened when the Dalits were allowed to enter into the temple? The mind set of people should change according to time. It does not meant that alcohol and biriyani should be distributed as prasadam. Krishna never told not to allow non-hindus into his temple. When the God did not try to bifurcate people, why the people try for the same in the name of God? All the temples in the North India allow entry of all religions into the temples. The Ayyappa temple of Sabarimala also allow entry of all religion. Then what is the

problem if other temples allow the entry of non-hindus. Instead of the Notice "Non-Hindus are not allowed", the Notice should be "Non-devotees are not allowed". All the devotees, whether they are hindus, christians, muslims, do not matter for God. He loves everybody without looking the colour, creed of people. MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT MAKE RULES, WHICH THE GOD DID NOT EVEN THINK. Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 wrote: Hari OM! Personally my view regarding this Guruvayur entry is a political creation by the atheist Marxist party.. Each temple has its own rules and regulations and Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar. So I am not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple. Yes, Guruvayur temples pavitratha and chitta will go off if we allow everyone inside.As per the Tantrik vidhis thera are certain rules and regulations to follow to keep Devan chaitanyam intact! Tomorrow according to the changing times people will say Biriyani and Alcohol as prasadam there will be people to agree for that also the majority ignorant non-united Hindus! which is a pray for all political exploitation. Try asking Saudi Government to allow everyone inside Mecca,

Madina...>>>???? Because all changing times... we need to change right.. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 6/5/07, nbnair2000 <nbnair2000 > wrote: Ref. Entry of Non-Hindus to Guruvayur Temple - "sreedhar c.p"sreepal20 HARI AUM,Change is a sign of life. Any person or organisation that resistschanges in accordance with time will decay fast. Hence considering necessary changes in rules and practices is a healthy sign, for anyorganisation. But it should be considered by the very same people whoare involved in these practices.We cannot equate

the preset issue with the Temple Entry Proclamation by Sri Chithirathirunal Maharaja of Travancore. Though Maharaja wasthe ruler, he was an ardent Bhakt as well. Also, he had not imposedany rules or restrictions on the practices of any other faiths in hisown Kingdom. Neither Shri Sudhakaran nor the communist party as such believes inthe worships of God or in any temple practices. And they hadabsolutely no business in interfering with religious practices. Thereare many cases where religions had imposed restrictions on governments, and not the other way. The religious leaders concerned should consider these issues moreopenly, taking into account the general feelings of devotees. As a devotee and a Kathakali Aswadakan, I always feel hurt that such a great soul like Hyderali, who was singing all through his life themost cherished Kathakali Padangal (mostly in praise of God and Hisavatars) was denied entry

in to Hindu Temples! What prayaschithas wecan do for that now? Please consider: let us not repeat such blunders. I don't have to elaborate: there are other living 'DARLINGS' ofdevotees who are still being denied Guruvayur entry! Why should we deny the desire to worship to any person (irrespectiveof the family into which he/she is born)? We have learned many stories from our mythology where people of horrible pasts werepardoned once they have undergone the mental transformations to becomesober characters. With due respects to the feeling of all my fellow devotees, NB Nair. nbnair2000 guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20 wrote:>> For Inform, 1. Kerala Priests Ask Government to Not

Interfere inTemple Traditions THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, INDIA, June 2, 2007: TheYogashema Sabha -- the primary leadership of priests, tantris (high priests) and other Brahmin and Namboodiri bodies -- has asked theKerala government to not interfere with the customs and traditions ofKerala's temples. The priests' request was in response to the Temple Affairs Minister G. Sudhakaran's statement that the government wouldconsider legislation to allow all believers, including non-Hindus, toworship in temples. The sabha met in Thrissur in the wake of thecontroversy over the purification rite at the Guruvayur temple after avisit by Union minister Vayalar Ravi and his family. It decided tobegin the process for a second temple entry proclamation. (Through asimilar proclamation in 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore had abolished the ban on Dalits entering the temple).> > Speaking to the Hindustan Times, Rahul Eswar, grandson of

theSabarimala tantri who took the initiative for the conclav e, saidaround 80 per cent of the members favored reforms in tune with the changing times. "The majority of them agreed to the reforms known asthe Second Temple Entry Proclamation. The meeting decided to initiatedialogue and debate for this," he said. Rahul also said thatSudhakaran, who did not believe in temple customs and belief, had norole to play in this. "The government will bring in a law afterconsulting all concerned. It feels all believers have to be alloweddarshan in temples," he said. > > With Love,> Sree> > > > > Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows theanswer. Tryit now.> --

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HATS OF U SIR Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 wrote: Hari OM! Personally my view regarding this Guruvayur entry is a political creation by the atheist Marxist party.. Each temple has its own rules and regulations and Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar. So I am not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple. Yes, Guruvayur temples pavitratha and

chitta will go off if we allow everyone inside.As per the Tantrik vidhis thera are certain rules and regulations to follow to keep Devan chaitanyam intact! Tomorrow according to the changing times people will say Biriyani and Alcohol as prasadam there will be people to agree for that also the majority ignorant non-united Hindus! which is a pray for all political exploitation. Try asking Saudi Government to allow everyone inside Mecca, Madina...>>>???? Because all changing times... we need to change right.. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 6/5/07, nbnair2000 <nbnair2000 > wrote: Ref. Entry of Non-Hindus to Guruvayur Temple - "sreedhar c.p"sreepal20 HARI AUM,Change is a sign of life. Any person or organisation that resistschanges in accordance with time will decay fast. Hence considering necessary changes in rules and practices is a healthy sign, for anyorganisation. But it should be considered by the very same people whoare involved in these practices.We cannot equate the preset issue with the Temple Entry Proclamation by Sri Chithirathirunal Maharaja of Travancore. Though Maharaja wasthe ruler, he was an ardent Bhakt as well. Also, he had not imposedany rules or restrictions on the practices of any other faiths in hisown Kingdom. Neither Shri Sudhakaran nor the communist party as such believes inthe worships of God or in any temple practices. And they

hadabsolutely no business in interfering with religious practices. Thereare many cases where religions had imposed restrictions on governments, and not the other way. The religious leaders concerned should consider these issues moreopenly, taking into account the general feelings of devotees. As a devotee and a Kathakali Aswadakan, I always feel hurt that such a great soul like Hyderali, who was singing all through his life themost cherished Kathakali Padangal (mostly in praise of God and Hisavatars) was denied entry in to Hindu Temples! What prayaschithas wecan do for that now? Please consider: let us not repeat such blunders. I don't have to elaborate: there are other living 'DARLINGS' ofdevotees who are still being denied Guruvayur entry! Why should we deny the desire to worship to any person (irrespectiveof the family into which he/she is born)? We have learned many stories from our mythology where

people of horrible pasts werepardoned once they have undergone the mental transformations to becomesober characters. With due respects to the feeling of all my fellow devotees, NB Nair. nbnair2000 guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20 wrote:>> For Inform, 1. Kerala Priests Ask Government to Not Interfere inTemple Traditions THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, INDIA, June 2, 2007: TheYogashema Sabha -- the primary leadership of priests, tantris (high priests) and other Brahmin and Namboodiri bodies -- has asked theKerala government to not interfere with the customs and traditions ofKerala's temples. The priests' request was in response to the Temple Affairs Minister G. Sudhakaran's statement that the

government wouldconsider legislation to allow all believers, including non-Hindus, toworship in temples. The sabha met in Thrissur in the wake of thecontroversy over the purification rite at the Guruvayur temple after avisit by Union minister Vayalar Ravi and his family. It decided tobegin the process for a second temple entry proclamation. (Through asimilar proclamation in 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore had abolished the ban on Dalits entering the temple).> > Speaking to the Hindustan Times, Rahul Eswar, grandson of theSabarimala tantri who took the initiative for the conclav e, saidaround 80 per cent of the members favored reforms in tune with the changing times. "The majority of them agreed to the reforms known asthe Second Temple Entry Proclamation. The meeting decided to initiatedialogue and debate for this," he said. Rahul also said thatSudhakaran, who did not believe in temple customs and belief,

had norole to play in this. "The government will bring in a law afterconsulting all concerned. It feels all believers have to be alloweddarshan in temples," he said. > > With Love,> Sree> > > > > Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows theanswer. Tryit now.> -- dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USDKrishna PrasadDare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into the 'unknown' The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do not know. If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the fullest. As Poojya Gurudev said it, "Open

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Hari OM!

 

Thanks NBnairji,

 

And there will be always diagreement for any views, I accept it. Guruvayur rule

should never be changed, Dalits entering is different by other Relgious persons all

together. the board should be NON-HINDUS should not enter the temple.

 

we Have Sabaraimala and all other temples to worship for other religious people let it

continue like that. What is so particular about Guruvayur??? so there is some political

agenda in that understand that my dear friend. Never try politicians to exploit our religious

belief. They will never touch Church or Mosque but only temples because we Hindus are always

divided. You try to influence Saudi Government to allow people to Mecca and Madina of all

religions. try that. you will burn your fingers. do not say that is a different issue Nope it is not

different everywhere there should be same... So let GURUVAYUR be intact atleast for all of us

HINDUS!

 

With Love & OM!

 

Krishna Prasad

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Thank you Krishnaprasadji for sparing some time to write a rejoinderto my post, explaining the practical side of the issue. Afterreading, nay studying, your write-up I stand corrected and feel deeplyindebted to you. Now I realise that my opinion was guided by emotional feelings thattoo based on one or two specific incidents. It will not be judiciousto change the long standing customs and practices based on one or two

isolated incidents. All the practical consequences had to beconsidered and such vital decisions cannot be based on any simplemajority opinion of the devotees, as you have amply elucidated. However, the non-devotees have absolutely no business to comment on

these temple issues. And under no conditions the interference by thegovernment in temple affairs should be tolerated. Thanking you once again and with warm regards to all fellow devotees,Yours sincerely nb nair. guruvayur , " Krishna Prasad " <rkrishp99 wrote:

>> Hari OM!> > Personally my view regarding this Guruvayur entry is a politicalcreation by> the> atheist Marxist party.. Each temple has its own rules andregulations and

> Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar.> > So I am not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple.> > Yes, Guruvayur temples pavitratha and chitta will go off if we allow

> everyone inside.As per> the Tantrik vidhis thera are certain rules and regulations to followto keep> Devan chaitanyam intact!> > Tomorrow according to the changing times people will say Biriyani and

> Alcohol as prasadam> there will be people to agree for that also the majority ignorantnon-united> Hindus! which is> a pray for all political exploitation.> > Try asking Saudi Government to allow everyone inside Mecca,

Madina...>>>????> > Because all changing times... we need to change right..> > With Love & OM!> > Krishna Prasad> >

> On 6/5/07, nbnair2000 <nbnair2000 wrote:> >> > Ref. Entry of Non-Hindus to Guruvayur Temple - " sreedhar c.p " > > sreepal20@

> >> > HARI AUM,> > Change is a sign of life. Any person or organisation that resists> > changes in accordance with time will decay fast. Hence considering> > necessary changes in rules and practices is a healthy sign, for any

> > organisation. But it should be considered by the very same people who> > are involved in these practices.> >> > We cannot equate the preset issue with the Temple Entry Proclamation

> > by Sri Chithirathirunal Maharaja of Travancore. Though Maharaja was> > the ruler, he was an ardent Bhakt as well. Also, he had not imposed> > any rules or restrictions on the practices of any other faiths in his

> > own Kingdom.> >> > Neither Shri Sudhakaran nor the communist party as such believes in> > the worships of God or in any temple practices. And they had> > absolutely no business in interfering with religious practices. There

> > are many cases where religions had imposed restrictions on> > governments, and not the other way.> >> > The religious leaders concerned should consider these issues more> > openly, taking into account the general feelings of devotees.

> >> > As a devotee and a Kathakali Aswadakan, I always feel hurt that such a> > great soul like Hyderali, who was singing all through his life the> > most cherished Kathakali Padangal (mostly in praise of God and His

> > avatars) was denied entry in to Hindu Temples! What prayaschithas we> > can do for that now? Please consider: let us not repeat such blunders.> > I don't have to elaborate: there are other living 'DARLINGS' of

> > devotees who are still being denied Guruvayur entry!> >> > Why should we deny the desire to worship to any person (irrespective> > of the family into which he/she is born)? We have learned many

> > stories from our mythology where people of horrible pasts were> > pardoned once they have undergone the mental transformations to become> > sober characters.> >> > With due respects to the feeling of all my fellow devotees,

> > NB Nair. nbnair2000 <nbnair2000%40>> >> >

guruvayur <guruvayur%40>, " sreedhar> > c.p " <sreepal20@> wrote:> > >> > > For Inform, 1. Kerala Priests Ask Government to Not Interfere in> > Temple Traditions THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, INDIA, June 2, 2007: The

> > Yogashema Sabha -- the primary leadership of priests, tantris (high> > priests) and other Brahmin and Namboodiri bodies -- has asked the> > Kerala government to not interfere with the customs and traditions of

> > Kerala's temples. The priests' request was in response to the Temple> > Affairs Minister G. Sudhakaran's statement that the government would> > consider legislation to allow all believers, including non-Hindus, to

> > worship in temples. The sabha met in Thrissur in the wake of the> > controversy over the purification rite at the Guruvayur temple after a> > visit by Union minister Vayalar Ravi and his family. It decided to

> > begin the process for a second temple entry proclamation. (Through a> > similar proclamation in 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore had abolished> > the ban on Dalits entering the temple).

> > >> > > Speaking to the Hindustan Times, Rahul Eswar, grandson of the> > Sabarimala tantri who took the initiative for the conclav e, said> > around 80 per cent of the members favored reforms in tune with the

> > changing times. " The majority of them agreed to the reforms known as> > the Second Temple Entry Proclamation. The meeting decided to initiate> > dialogue and debate for this, " he said. Rahul also said that

> > Sudhakaran, who did not believe in temple customs and belief, had no> > role to play in this. " The government will bring in a law after> > consulting all concerned. It feels all believers have to be allowed

> > darshan in temples, " he said.> > >> > > With Love,> > > Sree> > >> > >> > >> > >

> > > Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the> > answer. Tryit now.> > >> >> > > >> > >

> -- > dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in> .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USD> > > Krishna Prasad> > Dare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into the

'unknown'> The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do not know.> If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the fullest.> > As Poojya Gurudev said it,

> > " Open your eyes. Burst your shell.> Spread your wings and fly! " > > Swami Chinmayananda> Hate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin even with an> excess of hatred. "

>

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If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the fullest. As Poojya Gurudev said it, "Open your eyes. Burst your shell. Spread your wings and fly!"Swami ChinmayanandaHate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin even with an excess of hatred. "

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From Dr. Hari I am sorry. I have been reading the discussion for some time. I have one simple question. Is it possible for a simle Dalit to enter into PM's house? Or to say, to this Minister's house? Let him say that, any one can come to my house, whenever the house is opened. I will talk to everyone and entertain them without any bifurcation. If the well known "reformists" are ready to do this first, after this let them talk about entering into temples, churches and masques and other places. Any how, India and Indians had undergone much much more difficult times than all these. And we all are waiting for Sree Krishna's Kalki Avatar. We have to thank them, as we thank Sahuni, Duryodana, Ravana, Hrinyakasibu and other demons. For, in their absence, we could not have seen the Sree Krishna, Sree Rama,

and other avatars of Lord Vishnu. Sree Krishna Sree Krishna Om Santhi Om Santhi Om Santhi Suresh P <sureshp_suja wrote: From Suresh.P. Om Narayanaya, I have gone through the write-ups on the subject matter. Though I totally agaree with what Shri N.B.Nair says, I totally disagree with what Shri Krishna Prasad has written. If Shri Krishna Prasad's saying is correct that the Guruvayur temple rules are set by none

other than Adi Shankaracharyar, hence he is not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple, then what happened when the Dalits were allowed to enter into the temple? The mind set of people should change according to time. It does not meant that alcohol and biriyani should be distributed as prasadam. Krishna never told not to allow non-hindus into his temple. When the God did not try to bifurcate people, why the people try for the same in the name of God? All the temples in the North India allow entry of all religions into the temples. The Ayyappa temple of Sabarimala also allow entry of all religion. Then what is the problem if other temples allow the entry of non-hindus. Instead of the Notice "Non-Hindus are not allowed", the Notice should be "Non-devotees are not allowed". All the devotees, whether they are hindus, christians, muslims, do not matter for God. He loves everybody without looking the colour, creed of people. MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT

WE SHOULD NOT MAKE RULES, WHICH THE GOD DID NOT EVEN THINK. Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 > wrote: Hari OM! Personally my view regarding this Guruvayur entry is a political creation by the atheist Marxist party.. Each temple has its own rules and regulations and Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar. So I am not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple. Yes, Guruvayur temples pavitratha and chitta will go off if we allow everyone inside.As per the Tantrik vidhis thera are certain rules and regulations to follow to keep Devan chaitanyam intact! Tomorrow according to the

changing times people will say Biriyani and Alcohol as prasadam there will be people to agree for that also the majority ignorant non-united Hindus! which is a pray for all political exploitation. Try asking Saudi Government to allow everyone inside Mecca, Madina...>>>???? Because all changing times... we need to change right.. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 6/5/07, nbnair2000 <nbnair2000 > wrote: Ref. Entry of Non-Hindus to Guruvayur Temple - "sreedhar c.p"sreepal20 HARI AUM,Change is a sign of life. Any

person or organisation that resistschanges in accordance with time will decay fast. Hence considering necessary changes in rules and practices is a healthy sign, for anyorganisation. But it should be considered by the very same people whoare involved in these practices.We cannot equate the preset issue with the Temple Entry Proclamation by Sri Chithirathirunal Maharaja of Travancore. Though Maharaja wasthe ruler, he was an ardent Bhakt as well. Also, he had not imposedany rules or restrictions on the practices of any other faiths in hisown Kingdom. Neither Shri Sudhakaran nor the communist party as such believes inthe worships of God or in any temple practices. And they hadabsolutely no business in interfering with religious practices. Thereare many cases where religions had imposed restrictions on governments, and not the other way. The religious leaders concerned should consider these issues

moreopenly, taking into account the general feelings of devotees. As a devotee and a Kathakali Aswadakan, I always feel hurt that such a great soul like Hyderali, who was singing all through his life themost cherished Kathakali Padangal (mostly in praise of God and Hisavatars) was denied entry in to Hindu Temples! What prayaschithas wecan do for that now? Please consider: let us not repeat such blunders. I don't have to elaborate: there are other living 'DARLINGS' ofdevotees who are still being denied Guruvayur entry! Why should we deny the desire to worship to any person (irrespectiveof the family into which he/she is born)? We have learned many stories from our mythology where people of horrible pasts werepardoned once they have undergone the mental transformations to becomesober characters. With due respects to the feeling of all my fellow devotees, NB Nair. nbnair2000 guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20 wrote:>> For Inform, 1. Kerala Priests Ask Government to Not Interfere inTemple Traditions THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, INDIA, June 2, 2007: TheYogashema Sabha -- the primary leadership of priests, tantris (high priests) and other Brahmin and Namboodiri bodies -- has asked theKerala government to not interfere with the customs and traditions ofKerala's temples. The priests' request was in response to the Temple Affairs Minister G. Sudhakaran's statement that the government wouldconsider legislation to allow all believers, including non-Hindus, toworship in temples. The sabha met in Thrissur in the wake of thecontroversy over the purification rite at the Guruvayur temple after avisit by Union

minister Vayalar Ravi and his family. It decided tobegin the process for a second temple entry proclamation. (Through asimilar proclamation in 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore had abolished the ban on Dalits entering the temple).> > Speaking to the Hindustan Times, Rahul Eswar, grandson of theSabarimala tantri who took the initiative for the conclav e, saidaround 80 per cent of the members favored reforms in tune with the changing times. "The majority of them agreed to the reforms known asthe Second Temple Entry Proclamation. The meeting decided to initiatedialogue and debate for this," he said. Rahul also said thatSudhakaran, who did not believe in temple customs and belief, had norole to play in this. "The government will bring in a law afterconsulting all concerned. It feels all believers have to be alloweddarshan in temples," he said. > > With Love,> Sree> > >

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I am in favour of allowing all believers to enter the guruvayoor temple.One of my christian friend said one time she went to the temple and worshiped.and nobody knew who she was.guruvayoorappan will show all of us a path.Ultimately he is the one who is going to decide who will enter or who will not.Let us all put this dilemma on his feet,we will get answers soon. There is nobody dearer than a tru bhaktha for lord,a christian or muslim or what if he is a tru bhaktha lord has the answer.

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Very well said Suresh Ji. Actually all the various religions are bodily designations that we impose on the real us -- which is the pure spirit soul, part and parcel of the Lord. If someone has real devotion s/he should be able to see Krishna. Of course, a person with real devotion sees Krishna everywhere and therefore does not get engaged in unnecessary controversies. Therefore Krishna says: Yo Mam Pashyati Sarvatra Sarvam Cha Mayi Pashyati Tasyaham Na Pranashyami Sa Cha Me Na Pranashyati For one who sees Me everywhere and sees everything in Me, I am never lost, nor is he ever lost to Me. - BG 6.30. Shree Guruvayurappa Sharanam!Suresh P <sureshp_suja wrote: From Suresh.P. Om Narayanaya, I have gone through the write-ups on the subject matter. Though I totally agaree with what Shri N.B.Nair says, I totally disagree with what Shri Krishna Prasad has written. If Shri Krishna Prasad's saying is correct that the Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar, hence he is not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple, then what happened when the Dalits were allowed to enter into the temple? The mind set of people should change according

to time. It does not meant that alcohol and biriyani should be distributed as prasadam. Krishna never told not to allow non-hindus into his temple. When the God did not try to bifurcate people, why the people try for the same in the name of God? All the temples in the North India allow entry of all religions into the temples. The Ayyappa temple of Sabarimala also allow entry of all religion. Then what is the problem if other temples allow the entry of non-hindus. Instead of the Notice "Non-Hindus are not allowed", the Notice should be "Non-devotees are not allowed". All the devotees, whether they are hindus, christians, muslims, do not matter for God. He loves everybody without looking the colour, creed of people. MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT MAKE RULES, WHICH THE GOD DID NOT EVEN THINK. Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 > wrote: Hari OM! Personally my view regarding this Guruvayur entry is a political creation by the atheist Marxist party.. Each temple has its own rules and regulations and Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar. So I am not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple. Yes, Guruvayur temples pavitratha and chitta will go off if we allow everyone inside.As per the Tantrik vidhis thera are certain rules and regulations to follow to keep Devan chaitanyam intact! Tomorrow according to the changing times people will say Biriyani and Alcohol as prasadam there will be people to agree for that also the majority ignorant non-united Hindus! which is a pray for all political exploitation. Try asking Saudi Government to allow everyone inside Mecca, Madina...>>>???? Because all changing times... we need to change right.. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 6/5/07, nbnair2000 <nbnair2000 > wrote: Ref. Entry of Non-Hindus to Guruvayur Temple - "sreedhar c.p"sreepal20 HARI AUM,Change is a sign of life. Any person or organisation that resistschanges in accordance with time will decay fast. Hence considering necessary changes in rules and practices is a healthy sign, for anyorganisation. But it should be considered by

the very same people whoare involved in these practices.We cannot equate the preset issue with the Temple Entry Proclamation by Sri Chithirathirunal Maharaja of Travancore. Though Maharaja wasthe ruler, he was an ardent Bhakt as well. Also, he had not imposedany rules or restrictions on the practices of any other faiths in hisown Kingdom. Neither Shri Sudhakaran nor the communist party as such believes inthe worships of God or in any temple practices. And they hadabsolutely no business in interfering with religious practices. Thereare many cases where religions had imposed restrictions on governments, and not the other way. The religious leaders concerned should consider these issues moreopenly, taking into account the general feelings of devotees. As a devotee and a Kathakali Aswadakan, I always feel hurt that such a great soul like Hyderali, who was singing all through his life themost

cherished Kathakali Padangal (mostly in praise of God and Hisavatars) was denied entry in to Hindu Temples! What prayaschithas wecan do for that now? Please consider: let us not repeat such blunders. I don't have to elaborate: there are other living 'DARLINGS' ofdevotees who are still being denied Guruvayur entry! Why should we deny the desire to worship to any person (irrespectiveof the family into which he/she is born)? We have learned many stories from our mythology where people of horrible pasts werepardoned once they have undergone the mental transformations to becomesober characters. With due respects to the feeling of all my fellow devotees, NB Nair. nbnair2000 guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p"

<sreepal20 wrote:>> For Inform, 1. Kerala Priests Ask Government to Not Interfere inTemple Traditions THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, INDIA, June 2, 2007: TheYogashema Sabha -- the primary leadership of priests, tantris (high priests) and other Brahmin and Namboodiri bodies -- has asked theKerala government to not interfere with the customs and traditions ofKerala's temples. The priests' request was in response to the Temple Affairs Minister G. Sudhakaran's statement that the government wouldconsider legislation to allow all believers, including non-Hindus, toworship in temples. The sabha met in Thrissur in the wake of thecontroversy over the purification rite at the Guruvayur temple after avisit by Union minister Vayalar Ravi and his family. It decided tobegin the process for a second temple entry proclamation. (Through asimilar proclamation in 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore had abolished the ban on

Dalits entering the temple).> > Speaking to the Hindustan Times, Rahul Eswar, grandson of theSabarimala tantri who took the initiative for the conclav e, saidaround 80 per cent of the members favored reforms in tune with the changing times. "The majority of them agreed to the reforms known asthe Second Temple Entry Proclamation. The meeting decided to initiatedialogue and debate for this," he said. Rahul also said thatSudhakaran, who did not believe in temple customs and belief, had norole to play in this. "The government will bring in a law afterconsulting all concerned. It feels all believers have to be alloweddarshan in temples," he said. > > With Love,> Sree> > > > > Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows theanswer. Tryit now.> -- dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USDKrishna PrasadDare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into the 'unknown' The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do not know. If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the fullest. As Poojya Gurudev said it, "Open your eyes. Burst your shell. Spread your wings and fly!"Swami ChinmayanandaHate not the sinner - hate the sin; and always hate the sin even with an excess of hatred." Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

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Krishna will receive anyone regardless of their religion. Come to me as Hindus, Christians, Muslim etc and go back as better Hindus, Christians, Muslims etc. Krishna Dasa <krishnadasa77 wrote: Very well said Suresh Ji. Actually all the various religions are bodily designations that we impose on the real us -- which is the pure spirit soul, part and parcel of the Lord. If someone has real devotion s/he should be able to

see Krishna. Of course, a person with real devotion sees Krishna everywhere and therefore does not get engaged in unnecessary controversies. Therefore Krishna says: Yo Mam Pashyati Sarvatra Sarvam Cha Mayi Pashyati Tasyaham Na Pranashyami Sa Cha Me Na Pranashyati For one who sees Me everywhere and sees everything in Me, I am never lost, nor is he ever lost to Me. - BG 6.30. Shree Guruvayurappa Sharanam!Suresh P <sureshp_suja (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: From Suresh.P. Om Narayanaya, I have gone through the write-ups on the subject matter. Though I totally

agaree with what Shri N.B.Nair says, I totally disagree with what Shri Krishna Prasad has written. If Shri Krishna Prasad's saying is correct that the Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar, hence he is not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple, then what happened when the Dalits were allowed to enter into the temple? The mind set of people should change according to time. It does not meant that alcohol and biriyani should be distributed as prasadam. Krishna never told not to allow non-hindus into his temple. When the God did not try to bifurcate people, why the people try for the same in the name of God? All the temples in the North India allow entry of all religions into the temples. The Ayyappa temple of Sabarimala also allow entry of all religion. Then what is the problem if other temples allow the entry of non-hindus. Instead of the Notice "Non-Hindus are not allowed", the Notice should be "Non-devotees

are not allowed". All the devotees, whether they are hindus, christians, muslims, do not matter for God. He loves everybody without looking the colour, creed of people. MY ONLY REQUEST IS THAT WE SHOULD NOT MAKE RULES, WHICH THE GOD DID NOT EVEN THINK. Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 > wrote: Hari OM! Personally my view regarding this Guruvayur entry is a political creation by the atheist Marxist party.. Each temple has its own rules and regulations and Guruvayur temple rules are set by none other than Adi Shankaracharyar. So I am not in favour of allowing all religions inside Guruvayur temple. Yes, Guruvayur temples pavitratha and chitta will go off if we allow

everyone inside.As per the Tantrik vidhis thera are certain rules and regulations to follow to keep Devan chaitanyam intact! Tomorrow according to the changing times people will say Biriyani and Alcohol as prasadam there will be people to agree for that also the majority ignorant non-united Hindus! which is a pray for all political exploitation. Try asking Saudi Government to allow everyone inside Mecca, Madina...>>>???? Because all changing times... we need to change right.. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad On 6/5/07, nbnair2000 <nbnair2000 > wrote: Ref. Entry of Non-Hindus to Guruvayur Temple - "sreedhar c.p"sreepal20 HARI AUM,Change is a sign of life. Any person or organisation that resistschanges in accordance with time will decay fast. Hence considering necessary changes in rules and practices is a healthy sign, for anyorganisation. But it should be considered by the very same people whoare involved in these practices.We cannot equate the preset issue with the Temple Entry Proclamation by Sri Chithirathirunal Maharaja of Travancore. Though Maharaja wasthe ruler, he was an ardent Bhakt as well. Also, he had not imposedany rules or restrictions on the practices of any other faiths in hisown Kingdom. Neither Shri Sudhakaran nor the communist party as such believes inthe worships of God or in any temple practices. And they hadabsolutely no business in interfering with religious

practices. Thereare many cases where religions had imposed restrictions on governments, and not the other way. The religious leaders concerned should consider these issues moreopenly, taking into account the general feelings of devotees. As a devotee and a Kathakali Aswadakan, I always feel hurt that such a great soul like Hyderali, who was singing all through his life themost cherished Kathakali Padangal (mostly in praise of God and Hisavatars) was denied entry in to Hindu Temples! What prayaschithas wecan do for that now? Please consider: let us not repeat such blunders. I don't have to elaborate: there are other living 'DARLINGS' ofdevotees who are still being denied Guruvayur entry! Why should we deny the desire to worship to any person (irrespectiveof the family into which he/she is born)? We have learned many stories from our mythology where people of horrible pasts werepardoned once they have

undergone the mental transformations to becomesober characters. With due respects to the feeling of all my fellow devotees, NB Nair. nbnair2000 guruvayur , "sreedhar c.p" <sreepal20 wrote:>> For Inform, 1. Kerala Priests Ask Government to Not Interfere inTemple Traditions THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, INDIA, June 2, 2007: TheYogashema Sabha -- the primary leadership of priests, tantris (high priests) and other Brahmin and Namboodiri bodies -- has asked theKerala government to not interfere with the customs and traditions ofKerala's temples. The priests' request was in response to the Temple Affairs Minister G. Sudhakaran's statement that the government wouldconsider legislation to allow all

believers, including non-Hindus, toworship in temples. The sabha met in Thrissur in the wake of thecontroversy over the purification rite at the Guruvayur temple after avisit by Union minister Vayalar Ravi and his family. It decided tobegin the process for a second temple entry proclamation. (Through asimilar proclamation in 1936, the Maharaja of Travancore had abolished the ban on Dalits entering the temple).> > Speaking to the Hindustan Times, Rahul Eswar, grandson of theSabarimala tantri who took the initiative for the conclav e, saidaround 80 per cent of the members favored reforms in tune with the changing times. "The majority of them agreed to the reforms known asthe Second Temple Entry Proclamation. The meeting decided to initiatedialogue and debate for this," he said. Rahul also said thatSudhakaran, who did not believe in temple customs and belief, had norole to play in this. "The government will

bring in a law afterconsulting all concerned. It feels all believers have to be alloweddarshan in temples," he said. > > With Love,> Sree> > > > > Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows theanswer. Tryit now.> -- dotcompals: www.dotcompals.in .Org domain Names for just 2.5 USDKrishna PrasadDare to give up the comfort of the 'known' and venture into the 'unknown' The more we know, the more we will come to realize what we do not know. If we want to achieve our true potential and live life to the fullest. As Poojya Gurudev said it, "Open your eyes. Burst your shell. Spread your

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