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Dear Aniyan, Fully agree that a bonafide spritual master is essential to make spiritual progress. How does one identify a real Guru in today's world of cheaters and phoney godmen ? Can one accept spiritual books like the revered Narayaneem or the Srimad Bhagwatham as one's Guru? Please guide this directionless sinner. Very humbly, Anant.aniyan_ap <aniyan_ap wrote: Jai Sreekrishna!! It is important for a spiritual aspirant to understand what is meant by Guru ('gu' meaning darkness, and 'ru' meaning dispeller" = "dispeller of darkness") in spiritual context. Seeking a bona fide master and surrendering to Him will make one's spiritual progress easy.

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Jai Sreekrishna!! Before concluding all as cheaters, have you ever directly tried any one of them by spending some time with them or is it simply an assumption derived from public talks? My faith is that, if one is intensely inquisitive and sincere on the path, he does not have to run hither and thither for a guru; definitely a bona fide master will reach him. Jai Sreekrishna!! anant subramaniam <anant_subramaniam wrote: Dear Aniyan, Fully agree that a bonafide spritual master is essential to make spiritual progress. How does one identify a real Guru in today's world of cheaters and phoney godmen ? Can one accept spiritual books like the revered Narayaneem or the Srimad Bhagwatham as one's Guru? Please guide this directionless sinner. Very humbly, Anant.aniyan_ap <aniyan_ap > wrote: Jai Sreekrishna!! It is important for a spiritual aspirant to understand what is meant by Guru ('gu' meaning darkness, and 'ru' meaning dispeller" = "dispeller of darkness") in spiritual context. Seeking a bona fide master and surrendering to Him will make one's spiritual progress easy. Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download.

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!! Sri Rama Jayam !!

 

Hello Sri Aniyan,

 

Thanks for sharing it. These words connects my memory to a very thought-provoking incident from the historical serial 'Chanakya'. The incident goes like this --- A caravan is moving towards Magadha kingdom. A thorn from cactus pricks the bare foot of the person walking with the caravan. Very obviously, the man removes the thorn & walks away cursing the plant. Some where kind enough to apply medicine on his wound & pray for his goodnes. Others where smart enough to see the thorny plant but decided to proceed on a different route so as to avoid any woundings on them (atleast). These three classes of people are very common to find in the world of devotion.

 

A young man was following the caravan who had decided to act differently. To everyone's surprise, he was very quick to uproot the whole plant, burry it & cover the area with sand. That act saved all others from the pain of thorn who were about to travel on the same path.

 

The young man was none other than Chanakya himself - a great teacher-cum-politician of India.

 

Unlike others it is the teacher/master or more correctly a 'Guru' alone who removes the thorns from the path of devotion than only applying medicine or praying at a later stage.

 

Hare Krishna

Hare Rama

 

guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of aniyan_apMonday, July 09, 2007 2:14 PMguruvayur Subject: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Quote/spiritual tool

 

 

 

Jai Sreekrishna!!

"If a thorn pricks our foot when we walk, we will step more carefully. Thus we may escape falling into a ditch that may be just ahead. God gives us small sorrows to save us. Learn to see all the joys and sufferings that come to us as sent by God for our own good."

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Yes Vinod.It is absolutely true that only by the Grace of a Satguru the thorns can be removed completely if one has to make progress in the spiritual realm. So long as we are tied to the material things it is very difficult to make any advance.That does not mean that we shuld shun all the material things and lead a life of a sadhu.One can lead a family life but only thing too much attachment to any matters will be a block to spiritual progress as after all the so called material things can't give everlasting happiness and one desire will lead to another and so the vicious circle continues.This is what happens to all.To come out of this maya one shuld hv the willy nilly to detach from attachments in whatever form as Self Realisation is possible only when we get rid of the thorns of desires and faithfully following the guidance of the Guru the gates of heavenly bliss open.A nice

presentation. Hare Krishna, agraman."PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy)" <vinod.ps wrote: !! Sri Rama Jayam !! Hello Sri Aniyan, Thanks for sharing it. These words connects my memory to a very thought-provoking incident from the historical serial 'Chanakya'. The incident goes like this --- A caravan is moving towards Magadha kingdom. A thorn from cactus pricks the bare foot of the person walking with the caravan. Very obviously, the man removes the thorn & walks away cursing the plant. Some where kind enough to apply medicine on his wound & pray for his goodnes. Others where smart enough to see the thorny plant but decided to proceed on a different route so as

to avoid any woundings on them (atleast). These three classes of people are very common to find in the world of devotion. A young man was following the caravan who had decided to act differently. To everyone's surprise, he was very quick to uproot the whole plant, burry it & cover the area with sand. That act saved all others from the pain of thorn who were about to travel on the same path. The young man was none other than Chanakya himself - a great teacher-cum-politician of India. Unlike others it is the teacher/master or more correctly a 'Guru' alone who removes the thorns from the path of devotion than only applying medicine or praying at a later stage. Hare Krishna Hare Rama guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of aniyan_apMonday, July 09, 2007 2:14 PMTo:

guruvayur Subject: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Quote/spiritual tool Jai Sreekrishna!! "If a thorn pricks our foot when we walk, we will step more carefully. Thus we may escape falling into a ditch that may be just ahead. God gives us small sorrows to save us. Learn to see all the joys and sufferings that come to us as sent by God for our own good."

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Very well said Mr. Vinodji. Keep sending such thought provoking historical incidents. Om Santhi Om Santhi Om Santhi Dr. Hari Krishna"PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy)" <vinod.ps wrote: !! Sri Rama Jayam !! Hello Sri Aniyan, Thanks for sharing it. These words connects my memory to a very thought-provoking incident from the historical serial 'Chanakya'. The incident goes like this --- A caravan is moving towards Magadha kingdom. A thorn from cactus pricks the bare foot of the person walking with the caravan. Very obviously, the man removes the thorn & walks away cursing the plant. Some where kind enough to apply medicine on his wound & pray for his goodnes. Others where smart enough to see the thorny plant but decided to proceed on a different route so as to avoid any woundings on them (atleast). These three classes of people are very common to find in the world of devotion.

A young man was following the caravan who had decided to act differently. To everyone's surprise, he was very quick to uproot the whole plant, burry it & cover the area with sand. That act saved all others from the pain of thorn who were about to travel on the same path. The young man was none other than Chanakya himself - a great teacher-cum-politician of India. Unlike others it is the teacher/master or more correctly a 'Guru' alone who removes the thorns from the path of devotion than only applying medicine or praying at a later stage. Hare Krishna Hare Rama guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of aniyan_apMonday, July 09, 2007 2:14 PMguruvayur Subject: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Quote/spiritual tool Jai Sreekrishna!! "If a thorn pricks our foot when we walk, we will step more carefully. Thus we may escape falling into a ditch that may be just ahead. God gives us small sorrows to save us. Learn to see all the joys and sufferings that come to us as sent by God for our own good."

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Jai Sreekrishna!! Dear Vinod, I could not understand what you mean by replying to me. Love and regards, Aniyan "PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy)" <vinod.ps wrote: !! Sri Rama Jayam !! Hello Sri Aniyan, Thanks for sharing it. These words connects my memory to a very thought-provoking incident from the historical serial 'Chanakya'. The incident goes like this --- A caravan is moving towards Magadha kingdom. A thorn from cactus pricks the bare foot of the person walking with the caravan. Very obviously, the man removes the thorn & walks away cursing the plant. Some where kind enough to apply medicine on his wound & pray for his goodnes. Others where smart enough to see the thorny plant but decided to proceed on a different route so

as to avoid any woundings on them (atleast). These three classes of people are very common to find in the world of devotion. A young man was following the caravan who had decided to act differently. To everyone's surprise, he was very quick to uproot the whole plant, burry it & cover the area with sand. That act saved all others from the pain of thorn who were about to travel on the same path. The young man was none other than Chanakya himself - a great teacher-cum-politician of India.

Unlike others it is the teacher/master or more correctly a 'Guru' alone who removes the thorns from the path of devotion than only applying medicine or praying at a later stage. Hare Krishna Hare Rama guruvayur [guruvayur ] On Behalf Of aniyan_apMonday, July 09, 2007 2:14

PMguruvayur Subject: [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Quote/spiritual tool Jai Sreekrishna!! "If a thorn pricks our foot when we walk, we will step more carefully. Thus we may escape falling into a ditch that may be just ahead. God gives us small sorrows to save us. Learn to see all the joys and sufferings that come to us as sent by God for our own good."

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Dear Shri. Aniyan,

 

As per my understanding Vinod is applauding your daily quote. As

matter of fact, I also liked the thorn quote and how God protect us in

daily life.

 

Om Namo Narayanaya:

Sunil.

 

 

guruvayur , Parameswaran <aniyan_ap wrote:

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> Jai Sreekrishna!!

>

> Dear Vinod,

>

> I could not understand what you mean by replying to me.

>

> Love and regards,

>

> Aniyan

>

>

>

>

> " PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy) " <vinod.ps wrote:

> !! Sri Rama Jayam !!

>

> Hello Sri Aniyan,

>

> Thanks for sharing it. These words connects my memory to a very

thought-provoking incident from the historical serial 'Chanakya'. The

incident goes like this --- A caravan is moving towards Magadha

kingdom. A thorn from cactus pricks the bare foot of the person

walking with the caravan. Very obviously, the man removes the thorn &

walks away cursing the plant. Some where kind enough to apply medicine

on his wound & pray for his goodnes. Others where smart enough to see

the thorny plant but decided to proceed on a different route so as to

avoid any woundings on them (atleast). These three classes of people

are very common to find in the world of devotion.

>

> A young man was following the caravan who had decided to act

differently. To everyone's surprise, he was very quick to uproot the

whole plant, burry it & cover the area with sand. That act saved all

others from the pain of thorn who were about to travel on the same path.

>

> The young man was none other than Chanakya himself - a great

teacher-cum-politician of India.

>

> Unlike others it is the teacher/master or more correctly a 'Guru'

alone who removes the thorns from the path of devotion than only

applying medicine or praying at a later stage.

>

> Hare Krishna

> Hare Rama

>

> guruvayur [guruvayur ]

On Behalf Of aniyan_ap

> Monday, July 09, 2007 2:14 PM

> guruvayur

> [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Quote/spiritual tool

>

>

>

> Jai Sreekrishna!!

> " If a thorn pricks our foot when we walk, we will step more

carefully. Thus we may escape falling into a ditch that may be just

ahead. God gives us small sorrows to save us. Learn to see all the

joys and sufferings that come to us as sent by God for our own good. "

>

 

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Jai Sreekrishna!! I think, since it is a quote which can be used as a spiritual tool for one's self at his sole discretion, there is no need to personally address and aplaud about it (after all it is a quote). Jai Sreekrishna!! Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote: Dear Shri. Aniyan,As per my understanding Vinod is applauding your daily quote. Asmatter of fact, I also liked the thorn quote and how God protect us indaily life.Om

Namo Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Parameswaran <aniyan_ap wrote:>> Jai Sreekrishna!!> > Dear Vinod,> > I could not understand what you mean by replying to me.> > Love and regards,> > Aniyan> > > > > "PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy)" <vinod.ps wrote:> !! Sri Rama Jayam !!> > Hello Sri Aniyan,> > Thanks for sharing it. These words connects my memory to a verythought-provoking incident from the historical serial 'Chanakya'. Theincident goes like this --- A caravan is moving towards Magadhakingdom. A thorn from cactus pricks the bare foot of the personwalking with the caravan. Very obviously, the man removes the thorn & walks away cursing the plant. Some where kind enough to apply

medicineon his wound & pray for his goodnes. Others where smart enough to seethe thorny plant but decided to proceed on a different route so as toavoid any woundings on them (atleast). These three classes of peopleare very common to find in the world of devotion. > > A young man was following the caravan who had decided to actdifferently. To everyone's surprise, he was very quick to uproot thewhole plant, burry it & cover the area with sand. That act saved allothers from the pain of thorn who were about to travel on the same path. > > The young man was none other than Chanakya himself - a greatteacher-cum-politician of India. > > Unlike others it is the teacher/master or more correctly a 'Guru'alone who removes the thorns from the path of devotion than onlyapplying medicine or praying at a later stage.> > Hare Krishna> Hare Rama >

> guruvayur [guruvayur ]On Behalf Of aniyan_ap> Monday, July 09, 2007 2:14 PM> guruvayur > [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Quote/spiritual tool> > > > Jai Sreekrishna!!> "If a thorn pricks our foot when we walk, we will step morecarefully. Thus we may escape falling into a ditch that may be justahead. God gives us small sorrows to save us. Learn to see all thejoys and sufferings that come to us as sent by God for our own good."> > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email

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OM NAMO NARAYANAYARespected Shri. Aniyan ji,I joined this group long back, and usually I enjoy & learn many things from the mails from learned people, like you all.The quotes you send are really wonderful & informative.But the culture of this group is interaction, replying to the mails with individual's idea, so that we get more & more knowledge and also keep the group active & homely.The reply sent by Vinod ji to your mail, even if it was addressed to you, was a very good message to all of us, the group members.Once again, thanking you for the wonderful quotes.Radhe Shyam,ArunParameswaran <aniyan_ap wrote: Jai Sreekrishna!! I think, since it is a quote which can be used as a spiritual tool for one's self at his sole discretion, there

is no need to personally address and aplaud about it (after all it is a quote). Jai Sreekrishna!! Sunil Menon <menon_sunil wrote: Dear Shri. Aniyan,As per my understanding Vinod is applauding your daily quote. Asmatter of fact, I also liked the thorn quote and how God protect us indaily life.Om Namo Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Parameswaran <aniyan_ap wrote:>> Jai Sreekrishna!!> > Dear Vinod,> > I could not understand what you mean by replying to me.> > Love and regards,> > Aniyan> > > > > "PS,

Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy)" <vinod.ps wrote:> !! Sri Rama Jayam !!> > Hello Sri Aniyan,> > Thanks for sharing it. These words connects my memory to a verythought-provoking incident from the historical serial 'Chanakya'. Theincident goes like this --- A caravan is moving towards Magadhakingdom. A thorn from cactus pricks the bare foot of the personwalking with the caravan. Very obviously, the man removes the thorn & walks away cursing the plant. Some where kind enough to apply medicineon his wound & pray for his goodnes. Others where smart enough to seethe thorny plant but decided to proceed on a different route so as toavoid any woundings on them (atleast). These three classes of peopleare very common to find in the world of devotion. > > A young man was following the caravan who had decided to actdifferently. To everyone's surprise, he was very quick to uproot

thewhole plant, burry it & cover the area with sand. That act saved allothers from the pain of thorn who were about to travel on the same path. > > The young man was none other than Chanakya himself - a greatteacher-cum-politician of India. > > Unlike others it is the teacher/master or more correctly a 'Guru'alone who removes the thorns from the path of devotion than onlyapplying medicine or praying at a later stage.> > Hare Krishna> Hare Rama > > guruvayur [guruvayur ]On Behalf Of aniyan_ap> Monday, July 09, 2007 2:14 PM> guruvayur > [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor]

Quote/spiritual tool> > > > Jai Sreekrishna!!> "If a thorn pricks our foot when we walk, we will step morecarefully. Thus we may escape falling into a ditch that may be justahead. God gives us small sorrows to save us. Learn to see all thejoys and sufferings that come to us as sent by God for our own good."> > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.> Try the Mail Beta.> Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

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Jai Sreekrishna!! Dear all, My sincere apologies to Vinod and others whose feelings got hurt due to the style of my response to Vinod's mail. I wish if Lord Krishna could correct me. Love and regards, Aniyan Arun P Pillai <arunppillay wrote: OM NAMO NARAYANAYARespected Shri. Aniyan ji,I joined this group long back, and usually I enjoy & learn many things from the mails from learned people, like you all.The quotes you send are really wonderful & informative.But the culture of this group is interaction, replying to the mails with individual's idea, so that we get more & more knowledge and also keep the group active & homely.The reply sent by Vinod ji to your mail, even if it was addressed to you, was a very good message to all of us, the

group members.Once again, thanking you for the wonderful quotes.Radhe Shyam,ArunParameswaran <aniyan_ap > wrote: Jai Sreekrishna!! I think, since it is a quote which can be used as a spiritual tool for one's self at his sole discretion, there is no need to personally address and aplaud about it (after all it is a quote). Jai Sreekrishna!! Sunil Menon <menon_sunil > wrote: Dear Shri. Aniyan,As per my understanding Vinod is applauding your daily quote. Asmatter of fact, I also liked the thorn quote and how God protect us indaily life.Om Namo Narayanaya:Sunil.guruvayur , Parameswaran <aniyan_ap wrote:>> Jai Sreekrishna!!> > Dear Vinod,> > I could not understand what you mean by replying to me.> > Love and regards,> > Aniyan> > > > > "PS, Vinod K (GE Infra, Energy)" <vinod.ps wrote:> !! Sri Rama Jayam !!> > Hello Sri Aniyan,> > Thanks for sharing it. These words connects my memory to a verythought-provoking incident from the

historical serial 'Chanakya'. Theincident goes like this --- A caravan is moving towards Magadhakingdom. A thorn from cactus pricks the bare foot of the personwalking with the caravan. Very obviously, the man removes the thorn & walks away cursing the plant. Some where kind enough to apply medicineon his wound & pray for his goodnes. Others where smart enough to seethe thorny plant but decided to proceed on a different route so as toavoid any woundings on them (atleast). These three classes of peopleare very common to find in the world of devotion. > > A young man was following the caravan who had decided to actdifferently. To everyone's surprise, he was very quick to uproot thewhole plant, burry it & cover the area with sand. That act saved allothers from the pain of thorn who were about to travel on the same path. > > The young man was none other than Chanakya himself - a

greatteacher-cum-politician of India. > > Unlike others it is the teacher/master or more correctly a 'Guru'alone who removes the thorns from the path of devotion than onlyapplying medicine or praying at a later stage.> > Hare Krishna> Hare Rama > > guruvayur [guruvayur ]On Behalf Of aniyan_ap> Monday, July 09, 2007 2:14 PM> guruvayur > [Guruvayur/Guruvayoor] Quote/spiritual tool> > > > Jai Sreekrishna!!> "If a thorn pricks our foot when we walk, we will step morecarefully. Thus we may escape falling into a ditch that may be justahead. God gives us

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